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(Yahoo)   School districts ask the USDA to roll back its health meal guidelines, because teaching kids healthy eating habits like having a fruit or vegetable with every meal or eating less than 800 grams of sodium per meal is just TOO HARD   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 90
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2014-05-05 12:14:29 PM  
This soup needs more shut up and eat it.
 
2014-05-05 12:51:59 PM  
The USDA needs to pull its head out of its ass and stop stuffing kids with sugars and starches all day long in schools. Monochrome Yellow Monday is particularly disturbing: Cheese pizza, baked fries, applesauce, canned peaches. You get to wash it down with a chocolate milk, though. There seems to be no upper limit on the amount of carbs that can be served at lunch, but the bare-ass minimum of protein is two ounces for elementary students. You can guaran-goddamn-tee that they don't get three.
 
2014-05-05 12:54:56 PM  
You're getting Brawndo! And you're getting Brawndo! Everyone is getting Brawndo!
 
2014-05-05 01:29:47 PM  
Just give them nutrient paste and tell them it's "extreme", they'll gobble it up.
 
2014-05-05 01:31:14 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: The USDA needs to pull its head out of its ass and stop stuffing kids with sugars and starches all day long in schools. Monochrome Yellow Monday is particularly disturbing: Cheese pizza, baked fries, applesauce, canned peaches. You get to wash it down with a chocolate milk, though. There seems to be no upper limit on the amount of carbs that can be served at lunch, but the bare-ass minimum of protein is two ounces for elementary students. You can guaran-goddamn-tee that they don't get three.


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2014-05-05 01:31:31 PM  
subs you left out a step, companies bribe school districts to ask USDA to sell higher profit margin food to children.
 
2014-05-05 01:32:11 PM  
i1.ytimg.com

/oblig
 
2014-05-05 01:33:25 PM  
I thought I was doing well eating one serving of veggies a day.   Well, better than I had been, at least.
 
2014-05-05 01:35:43 PM  
The thing about these healthy meal plans is; the kids just end up throwing most of it away. You've got to get them hooked on carrots and other wabbit food when they're young.

The other thing is; most of the kids' parents are stupid. They are the ones filling their kids with sweets. If you know a toddler that won't eat vegetables; it's because the kids parents are idiots.

/ candy, potato chips and any confectionary treat should not be purchasable with EBT
 
2014-05-05 01:36:12 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: The USDA needs to pull its head out of its ass and stop stuffing kids with sugars and starches all day long in schools. Monochrome Yellow Monday is particularly disturbing: Cheese pizza, baked fries, applesauce, canned peaches. You get to wash it down with a chocolate milk, though. There seems to be no upper limit on the amount of carbs that can be served at lunch, but the bare-ass minimum of protein is two ounces for elementary students. You can guaran-goddamn-tee that they don't get three.


^^  THIS  ^^^

Once I was able to provide for myself, I stopped drinking soda, cut WAAAY back on the carbs, increased my fruit and vegetable intake and my body has never been happier.

I am convinced that the endless train of sugars and overly processed starches is the primary culprit in weight issues and diabetes.
 
2014-05-05 01:36:17 PM  
If students aren't eating some particular food don't automatically assume it's because it's "healthy"--maybe they're just doing a bad job with it.
 
2014-05-05 01:36:43 PM  
So... No chance of schools saying, "Ok, we just won't serve lunch any more. Students, if you want to eat, you must now pack your own."


... I wish they'd done this in college. I feel like it's one in the same. College/school has nice, lucrative contract with Sodexho for garbage. I had to FIGHT for not having a "required" meal plan sophomore year of college.
 
2014-05-05 01:38:43 PM  

Strik3r: Once I was able to provide for myself, I stopped drinking soda, cut WAAAY back on the carbs, increased my fruit and vegetable intake and my body has never been happier.


Funny how much cheaper it is than the school meal plan too, eh?
 
2014-05-05 01:40:20 PM  
I'll type slow so subby can keep up.

"teaching healthy eating habits" is one thing.
"Forcing students to eat what you approve of" is completely different.


// Idiots in "education" can't teach kids basic reading, math, and cursive. When they master that, we can talk about expanding their goals.
 
2014-05-05 01:41:14 PM  
USDA doesn't know or care about healthy. School lunches are, for the most part, very bad for kids.
 
2014-05-05 01:41:34 PM  
ecmoRandomNumbers: The USDA needs to pull its head out of its ass and stop stuffing kids with sugars and starches all day long in schools. Monochrome Yellow Monday is particularly disturbing: Cheese pizza, baked fries, applesauce, canned peaches. You get to wash it down with a chocolate milk, though. There seems to be no upper limit on the amount of carbs that can be served at lunch, but the bare-ass minimum of protein is two ounces for elementary students. You can guaran-goddamn-tee that they don't get three.

Don't like it? Pack a lunch. Don't mandate your choices on the rest of us.
 
2014-05-05 01:42:03 PM  
the Department of Agriculture is in charge of the actual regulations

Of course they are. And they're completely free of influence from BigAg and it's interests, aren't they?
 
2014-05-05 01:43:01 PM  
The USDA and Department of Agriculture want to kill your child's mystery meat square pizza.

THOSE BASTARDS!
 
2014-05-05 01:44:36 PM  

trippdogg: [i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]

/oblig


I has to know: Are those arms really his? Please tell they aren't.
 
2014-05-05 01:45:33 PM  

OnlyM3: ecmoRandomNumbers: The USDA needs to pull its head out of its ass and stop stuffing kids with sugars and starches all day long in schools. Monochrome Yellow Monday is particularly disturbing: Cheese pizza, baked fries, applesauce, canned peaches. You get to wash it down with a chocolate milk, though. There seems to be no upper limit on the amount of carbs that can be served at lunch, but the bare-ass minimum of protein is two ounces for elementary students. You can guaran-goddamn-tee that they don't get three.
Don't like it? Pack a lunch. Don't mandate your choices on the rest of us.


http://gawker.com/mom-gives-kids-homemade-lunch-school-forces-them-t o- ea-1466822586
 
2014-05-05 01:45:59 PM  
Schools have to deal with students that aren't satiated by their lunches.  If the new guidelines result in kids electing to be hungry or ornery, then the schools have a legitimate beef.  It's not a school's job to teach kids how to eat well
 
2014-05-05 01:46:27 PM  

mjones73: OnlyM3: ecmoRandomNumbers: The USDA needs to pull its head out of its ass and stop stuffing kids with sugars and starches all day long in schools. Monochrome Yellow Monday is particularly disturbing: Cheese pizza, baked fries, applesauce, canned peaches. You get to wash it down with a chocolate milk, though. There seems to be no upper limit on the amount of carbs that can be served at lunch, but the bare-ass minimum of protein is two ounces for elementary students. You can guaran-goddamn-tee that they don't get three.
Don't like it? Pack a lunch. Don't mandate your choices on the rest of us.

http://gawker.com/mom-gives-kids-homemade-lunch-school-forces-them-t o- ea-1466822586


Sorry that was canada, I meant this one - http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=8 7 62
 
2014-05-05 01:47:15 PM  
I just take solace in knowing my child has a healthy breakfast and dinner. He'd rather eat veggies and fruit and doesn't drink juice which is basically sugar flavored water. He's a water kid or lemonade. Every meal my wife and i make has fresh fruit or veggies so we are trying to do the best we can. If the school is serving pizza or mini meatball sub as long as he eats the fresh fruit or carrot sticks...meh...1 mediocre meal a day isnt bad. Plus how many of these precious fat snowflakes do nothing besides video games when they are home?
 
2014-05-05 01:47:17 PM  
800 grams of sodium per meal

1 and 3/4 lbs is a farkload of sodium
 
2014-05-05 01:47:40 PM  
i like to think that i eat healthy, but whole wheat tastes like shiat.  It is a depressing interpretation of bread.  no wonder the kids won't eat it.

also, canned fruits don't taste good either. vegetables can taste great, even from frozen.
 
2014-05-05 01:48:25 PM  

AMonkey'sUncle: trippdogg: [i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]

/oblig

I has to know: Are those arms really his? Please tell they aren't.


Yup...that's been around here since I started here
 
2014-05-05 01:51:45 PM  

eagles95: AMonkey'sUncle: trippdogg: [i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]

/oblig

I has to know: Are those arms really his? Please tell they aren't.

Yup...that's been around here since I started here


I've always thought that his right wrist looked kind of like he was wearing a fat suit.
 
2014-05-05 01:54:15 PM  
If their parents feed them shiat, the school board will have a tough sell trying to get them to eat healthy food.
But it's all the school board's fault, right?
 
2014-05-05 01:56:30 PM  

pute kisses like a man: i like to think that i eat healthy, but whole wheat tastes like shiat.  It is a depressing interpretation of bread.  no wonder the kids won't eat it.


Skip the bread altogether.  You don't need it.


also, canned fruits don't taste good either. vegetables can taste great, even from frozen.

Fresh fruit is pretty easy to come by.  There's no good reason to ever eat canned fruit unless you occasionally want something you can't get fresh like mandarin oranges or something off season.
 
2014-05-05 01:56:31 PM  
So, I do agree with the folks have said "don't like it, pack your kids' lunch" mentality. Unfortunately, I live somewhere that warm meals are preferred by my kiddos. We have tried thermos lunch, but didn't make it to lunch warm :(

My largest complaint with the school lunch program is around the MILK. Milk is required to be purchased with the meal or they convert the child's purchase to a la carte (which is substantially higher). My girls do not drink skim milk (it's the only choice offered - even the chocolate milk is skim) and drink water - I pay twice the rate because they don't want it. Why cannot the school offer 2%, 1% or milk alternatives (for those lactose intolerant)?

My daughters' lunches combined should not cost more than it costs me to make dinner at home for 5.

My kids each "lunch" and then come home have another "lunch" before "dinner". While I know they may sound "fat", they are not. They enjoy sports, bike riding, and being outside with friends.

Right now, I think the school lunch program is a "get rich" scheme for the prices they charge relative to the portions and food quality.
 
2014-05-05 01:56:57 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: This soup needs more shut up and eat it.


This government funding needs more take your strings-attached money and shove it up your bureaucratic ass.
 
2014-05-05 01:57:08 PM  
No school districts, they are not throwing away the healthier foods because they're healthy.  They're throwing it away because you won't put one ounce of farking effort into the preparation.  Taking a whole wheat pasta, boiling it and drowning it in some shiatty tasteless sauce will not get them to eat things.  Canned peach slices vs an actual REAL apple, fake cheese on limp whole wheat crust pizza.  You wouldn't eat it either.

Stop making kids out to be the bad guys here.
 
2014-05-05 02:00:54 PM  

fireclown: eagles95: AMonkey'sUncle: trippdogg: [i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]

/oblig

I has to know: Are those arms really his? Please tell they aren't.

Yup...that's been around here since I started here

I've always thought that his right wrist looked kind of like he was wearing a fat suit.



Its a fat suit
 
2014-05-05 02:03:25 PM  
They will just do it anyway, abstinence only does not work!! They really should pass out vomit pills so they can still do the deed but with out the side effects.
 
2014-05-05 02:04:39 PM  

OnlyM3: I'll type slow so subby can keep up.

"teaching healthy eating habits" is one thing.
"Forcing students to eat what you approve of" is completely different.


Yea this.   It's basically implemented in the worst way possible.  The food at the elementary school where my S/O teaches is just awful.   Once a week she sits down in the students' cafeteria and eats with a group of kids who have earned the reward.  It's still mostly soggy deep fried whatever, and their definition of 'healthy' consists of marginal, cheap or canned fruits, things that are completely unappetizing.   Basically the cheapest way to meet the rules by the industrial food companies that provide prison food and school lunches.   Not only are the lunches still unhealthy, they are unappetizing as well.

This is a poor school where 80+% of the children are on some form of assisted lunch so very few of them are brown bagging their own.

Top down dictation rarely works when the whole ecosystem is not taken into account.  There's a whole laundry list of things that needs to be addressed from the way the money is allocated to the vendors that have a contract to sell the food.
 
2014-05-05 02:06:05 PM  

Satan's Bunny Slippers: No school districts, they are not throwing away the healthier foods because they're healthy.  They're throwing it away because you won't put one ounce of farking effort into the preparation.  Taking a whole wheat pasta, boiling it and drowning it in some shiatty tasteless sauce will not get them to eat things.  Canned peach slices vs an actual REAL apple, fake cheese on limp whole wheat crust pizza.  You wouldn't eat it either.

Stop making kids out to be the bad guys here.


Yep. I have a several tossed out lunches in my car right now (I save the for homeless freeway guys). The peaches are canned and the coffee cake is mostly sugar and flour. I'm not saying the food is disgusting; it's fine. But it's not at all what I'd call a healthy diet. Why not a fresh peach or apple? Why not feshly baked bread, just simple wheat bread made with flour water butter and yeast? Anyway, you get the idea. It's not impossible to make healthy meals for under 77 cents (which is how much most school districts spend). It might be a bit boring, but it'd be good. Then again, why are we willing to only spend 77 cents?
 
2014-05-05 02:11:30 PM  

OnlyM3: I'll type slow so subby can keep up.

"teaching healthy eating habits" is one thing.
"Forcing students to eat what you approve of" is completely different.


// Idiots in "education" can't teach kids basic reading, math, and cursive. When they master that, we can talk about expanding their goals.


No one is "forcing students to eat what you approve of".... it's forcing schools to serve food that is healthy, instead of food that is more profitable for politically connected vendors but unhealthy. If a school is selling food to children it should be healthy, and not unhealthy an potentially set them up for health problems. I don't think that's a lot to ask from a government institution that serves food to children. We're not talking about some flavor of tea vs. another - we're talking about food which is objectively more or less healthy.

And the schools should serve only healthy food to our children - after all, as you said yourself:

OnlyM3: Don't like it? Pack a lunch. Don't mandate your choices on the rest of us.


It seems like you're being contrarian just to be contrarian. But that's pretty much the Tao of the Conservative, isn't it? "Someone's fer it? I'm against it!!"

Keep your knee from jerking up and moving your mouth every time you hear something which is in any way different and you'll stop spouting off nonsense a lot less often.
 
2014-05-05 02:11:59 PM  

Strik3r: ecmoRandomNumbers: The USDA needs to pull its head out of its ass and stop stuffing kids with sugars and starches all day long in schools. Monochrome Yellow Monday is particularly disturbing: Cheese pizza, baked fries, applesauce, canned peaches. You get to wash it down with a chocolate milk, though. There seems to be no upper limit on the amount of carbs that can be served at lunch, but the bare-ass minimum of protein is two ounces for elementary students. You can guaran-goddamn-tee that they don't get three.

^^  THIS  ^^^

Once I was able to provide for myself, I stopped drinking soda, cut WAAAY back on the carbs, increased my fruit and vegetable intake and my body has never been happier.

I am convinced that the endless train of sugars and overly processed starches is the primary culprit in weight issues and diabetes.


in 1998 I weighed 370-something pounds (most scales stop at 350 ya see) even though I was working out nearly every single day and eating a low fat diet.   Desperation and the advice of a trusted friend led me to trying a diet where I ate no more than 40 carbs a day at least 100 gm of protein and completely ignored how much dietary fat I was taking in.

In three months I was 80 lbs lighter and in six I had taken off over 100 even though my exercise due to job issues had gone to near zero.  My BP dropped, without medicine from 180/120 (my natural un-medicated BP even today) to 130/85, and in general I was MUCH healthier.

Increased job stress and a lifetime of bad eating habits eventually reasserted themselves and for 15 years I ate like crap again.   The weight never came back but I did manage to actually pick up Type II beetus (I was well on the way to developing it in 1998).  Diagnosed in October I went back to lo-carbing (75 gms these days ) and carved off another 40 lbs and HALVED my A1c in under 3 months.

the Metabolic science is really clear at this point,  carbs are NOT what you were built to use as your main food source, and at least for some of us, doing so is a ticket to an early grave
 
2014-05-05 02:12:12 PM  

duenor: . Then again, why are we willing to only spend 77 cents?


That's what gets me.  77 cents to feed a kid, but gottammit we gotta keep building tanks that no one wants!
 
2014-05-05 02:12:32 PM  

mongbiohazard: No one is "forcing students to eat what you approve of".... it's forcing schools to serve food that is healthy, instead of food that is more profitable for politically connected vendors but unhealthy. If a school is selling food to children it should be healthy, and not unhealthy an potentially set them up for health problems. I don't think that's a lot to ask from a government institution that serves food to children. We're not talking about some flavor of tea vs. another - we're talking about food which is objectively more or less healthy.

And the schools should serve only healthy food to our children - after all, as you said yourself:


The schools should serve what gets kids to shut up and learn.  That's the job of a school, not diet management.
 
2014-05-05 02:15:01 PM  

AMonkey'sUncle: trippdogg: [i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]

/oblig

I has to know: Are those arms really his? Please tell they aren't.


Where have you been? That image has been bouncing around the internet for so long that that kid has probably graduated from high school and on his second heart attack by now.
 
2014-05-05 02:16:50 PM  

duenor: Why not a fresh peach or apple?


24 oz can of peaches = $3; 1 lb fresh peaches = $4 (which includes the "pit" which isn't edible) so savings.
For those in need of brown bag assistance, why not put lunch money subsidies or whatever towards a company that provides food to the homeless/underprivileged? Why isn't anyone willing to get creative with options?
 
2014-05-05 02:17:03 PM  

OnlyM3: I'll type slow so subby can keep up.

"teaching healthy eating habits" is one thing.
"Forcing students to eat what you approve of" is completely different.


// Idiots in "education" can't teach kids basic reading, math, and cursive. When they master that, we can talk about expanding their goals.


There are many ways to teach and "by example" is a powerful one.   We get Our ideas of what is or is not "normal" from what we experience as youths.  S'why we call them our "formative years" don'tcha know?

Example, every meal I ever ate at home consisted of a protein, a starch, a vegetable and a salad.  "making THE salad" was an integral part of every dinner.   My wife looked at me like I was from mars the first time I asked he what kind of salad she wanted with a particular meal.   In her experience salad was something ONLY served when the main course was spaghetti and meat sauce, period.
 
2014-05-05 02:18:17 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: The USDA needs to pull its head out of its ass and stop stuffing kids with sugars and starches all day long in schools. Monochrome Yellow Monday is particularly disturbing: Cheese pizza, baked fries, applesauce, canned peaches. You get to wash it down with a chocolate milk, though. There seems to be no upper limit on the amount of carbs that can be served at lunch, but the bare-ass minimum of protein is two ounces for elementary students. You can guaran-goddamn-tee that they don't get three.


*wonders how I survived on pizza, fries, and milk for four years of school lunches*

Oh wait. I ate enough fruits in the morning for breakfast.  Enough fruits and vegetables at supper.  Thanks to food enforcement by my parents.

And I chose of my own initiative to walk 35 minutes to school and from each day.  Mostly due to being sick of being made fun of for my height.  Hell if it was for my health, I would have walked the same amount on spring break, in the summer, Thanksgiving, Christmas.  I preferred laying around doing nothing during those times.
 
2014-05-05 02:20:13 PM  

pute kisses like a man: i like to think that i eat healthy, but whole wheat tastes like shiat.  It is a depressing interpretation of bread.  no wonder the kids won't eat it.

also, canned fruits don't taste good either. vegetables can taste great, even from frozen.


Canned pineapple is good. Not as good as fresh, but still pretty darn tasty.
 
2014-05-05 02:21:19 PM  

bhcompy: mongbiohazard: No one is "forcing students to eat what you approve of".... it's forcing schools to serve food that is healthy, instead of food that is more profitable for politically connected vendors but unhealthy. If a school is selling food to children it should be healthy, and not unhealthy an potentially set them up for health problems. I don't think that's a lot to ask from a government institution that serves food to children. We're not talking about some flavor of tea vs. another - we're talking about food which is objectively more or less healthy.

And the schools should serve only healthy food to our children - after all, as you said yourself:

The schools should serve what gets kids to shut up and learn.  That's the job of a school, not diet management.


Are you trolling or stupid? It's hard to tell in text.

We have minimum safety and quality standards in all sorts of things, including the food served by government institutions to our children. Expecting that the food served be healthy is not asking for more - it's what should already be the bare minimum.

We expect that the facilities not sicken them with mold, or asbestos or any number of other toxic chemicals or pathogens. We expect the food not sicken them with bacteria, or toxic substances.

But apparently it's somehow magically unreasonable to expect the food to actually be healthy for their bodies nutritionally as well? I'm not sure I see what the objection is besides weapons-grade, idiotic contrarianism.

If you're trolling, find a hobby. If you're serious just be quiet and let adults do the talking.
 
2014-05-05 02:25:05 PM  

OnlyM3: I'll type slow so subby can keep up.

"teaching healthy eating habits" is one thing.
"Forcing students to eat what you approve of" is completely different.


OnlyM3: Don't like it? Pack a lunch. Don't mandate your choices on the rest of us.


You just answered your own criticism.

I don't want my tax dollars paying for your kids to get diabetes and heart disease. Don't like it? Pack a lunch.
 
2014-05-05 02:25:46 PM  
FTFA: The changes to school lunches are a result of the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids of Act of 2010...[which] was already scaled back once ... after kids complained they were too hungry.

lol
 
2014-05-05 02:27:05 PM  
Gym mats are high in fiber.
 
2014-05-05 02:31:43 PM  

Satan's Bunny Slippers: No school districts, they are not throwing away the healthier foods because they're healthy. They're throwing it away because you won't put one ounce of farking effort into the preparation. Taking a whole wheat pasta, boiling it and drowning it in some shiatty tasteless sauce will not get them to eat things. Canned peach slices vs an actual REAL apple, fake cheese on limp whole wheat crust pizza. You wouldn't eat it either.

Stop making kids out to be the bad guys here.


Also, there are studies showing that kids aren't throwing away any more food now than they were before the new rules went into effect. It's just a load of anecdotal crap claiming otherwise, heavily steeped in confirmation bias.
 
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