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(Deadline)   So just how bad did Joel McHale bomb as MC of the White House Correspondents Dinner? He's being referred to now as "the other comic" in light of how well Obama killed the room. Ouch   (deadline.com) divider line 216
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2014-05-05 01:07:11 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Arkanaut: Diogenes: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat:  Like when Colbert hosted, McHale seemed to be playing to the folks outside the room. The WHPC crowd seems pretty thin skinned... with the exception of Chris Christie, of course.

I'm waiting for Kanye to twat something about the Kardashian slam.

Intentional or serendipitous?

Twat is the plural of twit.


I thought it was the past tense, like "shat."
 
2014-05-05 01:10:07 PM
That banquet is lame and so is the Entertainment tab today. Whar is Kate Upton and her giant tittays?
Who is Joel McHale?
 
2014-05-05 01:11:27 PM

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Even after Katrina, no one in the press was saying anything against Bush. They were completely in his pocket. It's hard to believe now, but that Colbert biatchanged things a bit. Not by itself -- so many people were lashing against him, just not in the official channels -- but certainly no one had the stone balls to stand up to him at that point. It was amazing. Things quickly crumbled after that.


Are you kidding? Bush was getting hammered repeatedly most of his presidency after a post-9/11 lull. The meaningful lapse was in the run-up to the Iraq invasion but even then there were many outlets calling b.s. on that. You honestly believe Bush was getting mostly a free pass prior to Colbert at the WHCD?

Look at his list of "scandals" from Daily Kos. The press was constantly on his shiat.
 
2014-05-05 01:12:41 PM

bdub77: ManateeGag: EyeballKid: And, are these the same people who prefer CBS's "LOOKIT THEM WEIRDOES IN GLASSES!! OOOOH! THEY'RE TELLING ME TO LAUGH NOW, SO IT WAS FUNNY! HYUK, HYUK, HYUK!" to "Community?" Fair enough, then.

some of his jokes were really good and I laughed hard at them, but a lot of them fell flat.

Did they fall flat because they sucked, or because people in the room have no sense of humor?

Does anyone remember Colbert's speech? It was not 'funny' - it was pure awesome, and that is seriously a crowd of humorless twits. But should anyone be surprised? These dickholes run the country.

Seriously though, Steven Colbert should forever be remembered for that speech. It was the modern day equivalent of Dan Rather confronting Nixon.


The room was laughing quite a bit, till Colbert turned and started making fun of the media. It was dead silence after that. Watching the video, I'm convinced he skipped an entire page of jokes after the room went quiet.
 
2014-05-05 01:15:06 PM

Cletus C.: Triple Oak: Cletus C.: When McHale started out by saying Obama's best joke was the one about closing Gitmo you know the shiat was gonna fly. Obama's joke about Boehner wasn't as original or funny as McHale's.

"Joe Biden is elbow deep in jalapeño poppers and talking to a construction cone he thinks is John Boehner."

Okay, two questions: has the conservatroll Cletus gone into permanent hibernation (which would be perfectly fine, because I can tell you'd have some good conversation here without trying to poke and prod people), and are you watching streams on Twitch with the same username? Because the Cletus that is acting like a normal human in these threads is a welcome sight, another person that can just have conversation and debate without trying to droll to the lowest common denominator.

The answer to both your questions is, "you do realize that was nothing but a trolly comment, don't you?" Irony tag explodes and all that.


Your comment was trolly? Well you've been acting more human recently anyway. I know you know better, human Fark participants are better than troll Fark participants. As for my second question, you are CletusC on Twitch aren't you?
 
2014-05-05 01:17:38 PM

kth: Mikey1969: Headso: Mikey1969: God, I farking HATE when people link to Deadline... I could stare at this indefinitely, it's not like the video has ever actually loaded, just that pretty spinning color wheel assuring me that ti will be up any moment now...

[img.fark.net image 586x504]

you guys got racist browsers mine actually wraps the word night to a new line.

I didn't even notice "Big Nig" before, I was too entranced by the spinning pinwheel, I guess.

A timeline on my the wedding planing website where I was doing my organizing cut off "order custom cocktail napkins" at an unfortunate place. I still have the screenshot somewhere.


LOL...

Off topic, but funny.

It was fun when I worked at the printing company I used to work for. You start poking around in people's files when trying to resize/fix crap(Having standards does no good, these people do whatever they want, so people get paid to nothing more than fix the files.) you find some interesting stuff... We had a sign we did for one group that had a skydiver with an American Flag. Anyway, whether on purpose or accident, this guy's layer was named "Giant F@g". We also got a reprint whe I first started, and nobody could figure out why we were reprinting it. I started poking around in the layers and figured out that the one they had previously reprinted ws a NASA pic with the crazy drive-across-the-country-with-a-diaper lady and the astronaut who was having an affair with her. The new picture was missing those two.

Another fun one was some ad with a very happy woman riding a bike, and way off to the side of the bike path in the bushes was what was probably a crew member who didn't get off out of frame quickly enough.
 
2014-05-05 01:20:19 PM

redqueenmeg: I do enjoy McHale's standup as a rule but he does always have too many fat jokes that basically amount to "fat people should not be fat."


I read somewhere that he's sort of a health and fitness nut.
 
2014-05-05 01:22:36 PM

Cletus C.: The meaningful lapse was in the run-up to the Iraq invasion but even then there were many outlets calling b.s. on that.


If only.
 
2014-05-05 01:24:32 PM

GonzoNihilist: I don't remember if it was during Obama or McHale's speech but, Wolf Blitzer did not look impressed when CNN was being roasted.


Both speeches had a couple different knocks on CNN. And a friend of mine personally called Wolf Blitzer out on CNN's coverage as he was walking into the event (there were a few people protesting the failure of the media outside). He apparently did not get a very receptive response. I suspect a few members of the crowd were on him too. When the people outside are calling you a hack, the people inside are calling you a hack, the evening's entertainment calls you a hack, and the President of the United States calls you a hack... Yeah, that's not gonna put you in too good a mood.
 
2014-05-05 01:26:33 PM
MC of White House Correspondents Dinner appears to be a horrendously thankless no-win proposition purely for the cash. It's easier to sensitively lampoon or roast Hollywood, because they're actually in the public spotlight.
 
2014-05-05 01:28:09 PM

cousin-merle: "I call you my base" was from a different event, and the searching for WMDs joke was so tasteless it make international news. Hope that helps.


You're right, it was from some memorial dinner where Gore was also making with the LOLs.
 
2014-05-05 01:30:37 PM

Triple Oak: Cletus C.: Triple Oak: Cletus C.: When McHale started out by saying Obama's best joke was the one about closing Gitmo you know the shiat was gonna fly. Obama's joke about Boehner wasn't as original or funny as McHale's.

"Joe Biden is elbow deep in jalapeño poppers and talking to a construction cone he thinks is John Boehner."

Okay, two questions: has the conservatroll Cletus gone into permanent hibernation (which would be perfectly fine, because I can tell you'd have some good conversation here without trying to poke and prod people), and are you watching streams on Twitch with the same username? Because the Cletus that is acting like a normal human in these threads is a welcome sight, another person that can just have conversation and debate without trying to droll to the lowest common denominator.

The answer to both your questions is, "you do realize that was nothing but a trolly comment, don't you?" Irony tag explodes and all that.

Your comment was trolly? Well you've been acting more human recently anyway. I know you know better, human Fark participants are better than troll Fark participants. As for my second question, you are CletusC on Twitch aren't you?


Ha. I'm pretty sure you know I was describing your comment as trolly. But no Twitch. Sorry. I doubt I will be your "better human Fark participant" for long so it's better to just consider any comments I make you agree with, or do not find objectionable, as aberrations. We'll all be better for it in the long run.
 
2014-05-05 01:33:11 PM

mjbok: FinFangFark: Well, the work McHale and Colbert do on E! and Comedy Central are night and day. If you've heard McHale on that E! (he's not bad, but not great), this was all to be expected.


This is why I'm not sure Colbert will work on Late Night.  I don't think the producers will let him have the kind of show he has at CC, and the CBS late night audience may not warm to him.


I think CBS is trying to reinvent Late Night- they don't want the same traditional Network Late Night audience. They know Colbert already has a large and much younger following, which is much more attractive to marketers, and they expect that he'll bring a pretty large part of that following with him. It won't be the same type of show as the Report, he will have to deal with some celbs hawking garbage, but I very much doubt it'll be the same generic Letterman/Leno/Fallon tripe. It's a decision that makes more and more sense the more I think about it.
 
2014-05-05 01:36:50 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com

The evening's biggest joke
 
2014-05-05 01:38:27 PM

macross87: thisisyourbrainonFark: xanadian: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Diogenes: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat:  Like when Colbert hosted, McHale seemed to be playing to the folks outside the room. The WHPC crowd seems pretty thin skinned... with the exception of Chris Christie, of course.

I'm waiting for Kanye to twat something about the Kardashian slam.

The "Kardashian slam" was what got them famous in the first place.

Is that a wrestling move in where Kim whacks you down with her hiney?  Kind of like a killer twerk?

What the heck is that? It made me cry from laughter...

/at Panda Express
//they all look at me weird now


Beats me, it's been around Fark for at least a few months.
 
2014-05-05 01:43:19 PM

dj_spanmaster: MC of White House Correspondents Dinner appears to be a horrendously thankless no-win proposition purely for the cash. It's easier to sensitively lampoon or roast Hollywood, because they're actually in the public spotlight.


Oscar crowds are notoriously humorless. Everyone is either schmoozing or paranoid or both.
 
2014-05-05 01:44:51 PM

thisisyourbrainonFark: macross87: thisisyourbrainonFark: xanadian: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Diogenes: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat:  Like when Colbert hosted, McHale seemed to be playing to the folks outside the room. The WHPC crowd seems pretty thin skinned... with the exception of Chris Christie, of course.

I'm waiting for Kanye to twat something about the Kardashian slam.

The "Kardashian slam" was what got them famous in the first place.

Is that a wrestling move in where Kim whacks you down with her hiney?  Kind of like a killer twerk?

What the heck is that? It made me cry from laughter...

/at Panda Express
//they all look at me weird now

Beats me, it's been around Fark for at least a few months.


I'm reading the wrong threads. Thanks man!
 
2014-05-05 01:45:10 PM
Our lobby at work has Fox Business Channel on all day and when I walked out to get lunch the headline on the screen was along the lines of 'Did Obama go too far attacking the GOP at WHCD?'.

I just took a look at the past hosts.  Stewart has not hosted since '97?  I am guessing his constant and accurate attacks on the media and the Crossfire incident will keep him from hosting again.

Yakov Smirnoff hosted?  Rich Little in '07?
 
2014-05-05 01:46:59 PM
Nothing beats this one:

Norm Macdonald White House Correspondents Dinner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm5bjfAc1tY
 
2014-05-05 01:47:55 PM

someonelse: Oscar crowds are notoriously humorless. Everyone is either schmoozing or paranoid or both.


What are you talking about?  Sean Penn took the harmless ribbing of a fellow actor with grace and didn't go off on how the attacked was a treasure not to be mocked.
 
2014-05-05 01:51:56 PM
McHale spent too much time staring down at his index cards, and too much time apologizing when jokes didn't land.
 
2014-05-05 01:52:27 PM

Cletus C.: Triple Oak: Cletus C.: Triple Oak: Cletus C.: When McHale started out by saying Obama's best joke was the one about closing Gitmo you know the shiat was gonna fly. Obama's joke about Boehner wasn't as original or funny as McHale's.

"Joe Biden is elbow deep in jalapeño poppers and talking to a construction cone he thinks is John Boehner."

Okay, two questions: has the conservatroll Cletus gone into permanent hibernation (which would be perfectly fine, because I can tell you'd have some good conversation here without trying to poke and prod people), and are you watching streams on Twitch with the same username? Because the Cletus that is acting like a normal human in these threads is a welcome sight, another person that can just have conversation and debate without trying to droll to the lowest common denominator.

The answer to both your questions is, "you do realize that was nothing but a trolly comment, don't you?" Irony tag explodes and all that.

Your comment was trolly? Well you've been acting more human recently anyway. I know you know better, human Fark participants are better than troll Fark participants. As for my second question, you are CletusC on Twitch aren't you?

Ha. I'm pretty sure you know I was describing your comment as trolly. But no Twitch. Sorry. I doubt I will be your "better human Fark participant" for long so it's better to just consider any comments I make you agree with, or do not find objectionable, as aberrations. We'll all be better for it in the long run.


I'm onto your schtick. Sounds like you're getting tired of relentless hoop-jumping and lies. It's okay, you can agree with us.
 
2014-05-05 01:54:45 PM

someonelse: dj_spanmaster: MC of White House Correspondents Dinner appears to be a horrendously thankless no-win proposition purely for the cash. It's easier to sensitively lampoon or roast Hollywood, because they're actually in the public spotlight.

Oscar crowds are notoriously humorless. Everyone is either schmoozing or paranoid or both.


The Oscars appear high-strung. Golden Globes are more relaxed, right? And then you have actual roasts and dinners, both of which are even further informal. This WHCD appeared to be the worst of both worlds: roasting high-strung folks who take themselves too seriously.
 
2014-05-05 01:58:12 PM

Diogenes: BMulligan: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Mad Morf:


Lisa F.
The VIKING SIOUX has taken over this phone,jews at google plus kicked me off so did PRESIDENT COMANDER IN CHIEF MR.OBAMA leave nutanyohoo bb benjamins out of the jokes I mut have missed somthing.But I am ready as there are so many people waking up to the scum of the earth you know who you are.

What the ever lovin hell?

"The Jews at Google+ kicked me off" will henceforth be my go-to, all-purpose excuse.


"I didn't mean to fart on that elevator, but the Jews at Google +..."

"I know I said, 'Just the tip,' but the Jews at Google+..."

"I'm sorry I'm late for work, but the Jews at Google+..."

 It's....beautiful!



I'm very proud to have been able to bring this new meme to the attention of The Farkiverse.
 
2014-05-05 02:01:35 PM
Joel McHale sounded like he was reading his material for the first time. The jokes had no sense of a comic personality telling them. Your next door neighbor would have done as well.
 
2014-05-05 02:02:49 PM

Dr Dreidel: Rapmaster2000: It's just mind-blowing. Viking Sioux? Jews at Google? It's just mind-boggling.

Isn't there speculation that the Vikings may have made it to America? And while I'm sure there are Jews at Google (isn't Sergey Brin Jewish by birth?), OP did specify Google Plus.

// it's easy to conduct the conspiracy on G+ - no one else is around to notice
// "Viking Sioux" sounds like a pretty good Norse punk band


Vikings came to America? That is an outlandish theory!
 
2014-05-05 02:03:06 PM

LemSkroob: Nothing beats this one:

Norm Macdonald White House Correspondents Dinner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm5bjfAc1tY


Too hip for the room
 
2014-05-05 02:05:25 PM

Lee451: Are you serious? So any live comedian who is not funny is "playing to the internet"? I guess your theory goes to comedy clubs as well.

/No such thing as a unfunny comedian. They are "playing to the internet".


you should have probably watched his performance before you spoke and embarrassed yourself.

hint: the WH correspondents dinner isn't like doing a 10 minute set in front of the brick wall at the funny bone.
 
2014-05-05 02:07:50 PM

cptjeff: It won't be the same type of show as the Report, he will have to deal with some celbs hawking garbage, but I very much doubt it'll be the same generic Letterman/Leno/Fallon tripe. It's a decision that makes more and more sense the more I think about it.


Um, every episode of Daily Show/Colbert Report has a "celeb hawking garbage"; it's kind of the format: 22 minutes per episode, celebrity comes on after the second commercial break. He's getting paid to do the Carson/Letterman/Leno/Fallon thing, just refreshed a bit.

It's going to be a question of what the audience does when he's had three celebs hawking garbage on the couch, four nights a week, 40 weeks a year, for 10 years.
 
2014-05-05 02:13:05 PM

Crewmannumber6: LemSkroob: Nothing beats this one:

Norm Macdonald White House Correspondents Dinner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm5bjfAc1tY

Too hip for the room


More closer to Norm just not giving a fark about the room. he does that a lot. Which makes it great. He is one of the smartest people in all of comedy. It takes skill to make not funny, funny.
 
2014-05-05 02:15:29 PM

LibertyHiller: Um, every episode of Daily Show/Colbert Report has a "celeb hawking garbage"; it's kind of the format: 22 minutes per episode, celebrity comes on after the second commercial break. He's getting paid to do the Carson/Letterman/Leno/Fallon thing, just refreshed a bit.


The thing I question is are certain celebs going to be willing to go on Colbert's Late Show on CBS?  Most celebs aren't really keen on being the butt of jokes.
 
2014-05-05 02:21:08 PM

BMulligan: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Mad Morf:


Lisa F.
The VIKING SIOUX has taken over this phone,jews at google plus kicked me off so did PRESIDENT COMANDER IN CHIEF MR.OBAMA leave nutanyohoo bb benjamins out of the jokes I mut have missed somthing.But I am ready as there are so many people waking up to the scum of the earth you know who you are.

What the ever lovin hell?

"The Jews at Google+ kicked me off" will henceforth be my go-to, all-purpose excuse.


I still think "It's PSYOPS, bro" had a lot of life left in it.
 
2014-05-05 02:34:15 PM

LemSkroob: Crewmannumber6: LemSkroob: Nothing beats this one:

Norm Macdonald White House Correspondents Dinner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm5bjfAc1tY

Too hip for the room

More closer to Norm just not giving a fark about the room. he does that a lot. Which makes it great. He is one of the smartest people in all of comedy. It takes skill to make not funny, funny.


Similar to Norm's open at the ESPY's.
 
2014-05-05 02:43:54 PM

mjbok: LibertyHiller: Um, every episode of Daily Show/Colbert Report has a "celeb hawking garbage"; it's kind of the format: 22 minutes per episode, celebrity comes on after the second commercial break. He's getting paid to do the Carson/Letterman/Leno/Fallon thing, just refreshed a bit.

The thing I question is are certain celebs going to be willing to go on Colbert's Late Show on CBS?  Most celebs aren't really keen on being the butt of jokes.


The thing I question is your intelligence for doubting Stephen.
 
2014-05-05 02:44:28 PM

Mikey1969: God, I farking HATE when people link to Deadline... I could stare at this indefinitely, it's not like the video has ever actually loaded, just that pretty spinning color wheel assuring me that ti will be up any moment now...

[img.fark.net image 586x504]


Here is the video.  It just takes a few seconds to load on my computer.
www.thefashionsleuth.com
 
2014-05-05 02:45:46 PM

macross87: But but but Community?!!?


You're the SECOND person to bring that up in this thread.

Way to soar into Assumptiontown without getting any context.
 
2014-05-05 02:46:16 PM

El Dudereno: redqueenmeg: I do enjoy McHale's standup as a rule but he does always have too many fat jokes that basically amount to "fat people should not be fat."

I read somewhere that he's sort of a health and fitness nut.


I wouldn't be surprised given his appearance and non-standup jobs.  I'm not at all faulting him for looking the best he can.
 
2014-05-05 02:54:03 PM

mjbok: Triple Oak: So I didn't watch the dinner because I usually don't (lying to the country about weapons in a foreign country we invaded that cost thousands of lives and trillions of dollars, and then joking about it in a room full of people that could rule the country properly, kinda turns you off to the whole process), but I have seen bits of Colbert's hosting gig which was great. It sounds like I should check out some of this year's action. McHale has a humor style that appeals to me, and Obama is very funny in other situations like this (see also: Between Two Ferns).

I agree with your first part whole heartedly.  I also don't think the idiots in Washington should joke about the erosion of privacy rights, the boondoggle of the Obamacare rollout, etc.  They seem so much better about joking about their jobs than actually doing them.


Yeah, those two points are DEFINITELY comparable.

Website being down= fake war.
 
2014-05-05 02:54:38 PM

TheGogmagog: Mikey1969: God, I farking HATE when people link to Deadline... I could stare at this indefinitely, it's not like the video has ever actually loaded, just that pretty spinning color wheel assuring me that ti will be up any moment now...

[img.fark.net image 586x504]

Here is the video.  It just takes a few seconds to load on my computer.
[www.thefashionsleuth.com image 400x300]


That's so awesome. Someone wants an April Fool's joke for next year, they need to slap this on their website and market it as Jennifer Lawrence's Butt Plug collection, or something as plausible(Because she already brought the subject up on one of the late night shows), and then see who sets the record for staring at the spinny wheel the longest before giving up.
 
2014-05-05 03:08:52 PM

dj_spanmaster: someonelse: dj_spanmaster: MC of White House Correspondents Dinner appears to be a horrendously thankless no-win proposition purely for the cash. It's easier to sensitively lampoon or roast Hollywood, because they're actually in the public spotlight.

Oscar crowds are notoriously humorless. Everyone is either schmoozing or paranoid or both.

The Oscars appear high-strung. Golden Globes are more relaxed, right? And then you have actual roasts and dinners, both of which are even further informal. This WHCD appeared to be the worst of both worlds: roasting high-strung folks who take themselves too seriously.


True that. And they aren't even pretty.
 
2014-05-05 03:09:15 PM
If we're voting, I thought McHale was okay. Not good or great, but okay. He seemed nervous like many have said and also a bit unprepared. His Christie stuff seemed to have been written years ago.
 
2014-05-05 03:11:37 PM

EyeballKid: And, are these the same people who prefer CBS's "LOOKIT THEM WEIRDOES IN GLASSES!! OOOOH! THEY'RE TELLING ME TO LAUGH NOW, SO IT WAS FUNNY! HYUK, HYUK, HYUK!" to "Community?" Fair enough, then.


...I'm sorry, but "Community" is worse, and that's why it gets crap ratings. Suck it up and prepare to move on.
 
2014-05-05 03:21:58 PM
Watching the Colbert one now...seriously how no one knew what he was about it mind numbing
 
2014-05-05 03:23:27 PM
were all of the A-list comedians busy?
 
2014-05-05 03:30:49 PM

LibertyHiller: cptjeff: It won't be the same type of show as the Report, he will have to deal with some celbs hawking garbage, but I very much doubt it'll be the same generic Letterman/Leno/Fallon tripe. It's a decision that makes more and more sense the more I think about it.

Um, every episode of Daily Show/Colbert Report has a "celeb hawking garbage"; it's kind of the format: 22 minutes per episode, celebrity comes on after the second commercial break. He's getting paid to do the Carson/Letterman/Leno/Fallon thing, just refreshed a bit.

It's going to be a question of what the audience does when he's had three celebs hawking garbage on the couch, four nights a week, 40 weeks a year, for 10 years.


I'm not saying they don't do interviews now, I'm saying they don't do ones with vapid people pitching worthless things. Look at the actual guest list for TDS and TCR. Most of them have something to hawk, but Stewart and Colbert retain a lot of control to bring on only or at least mostly people they actually find interesting, and the often have people who are pretty obscure on their shows. Letterman/Leno/Fallon don't have that kind of control- they often have to take who the studio throws at them, and that requires having to sit through somebody entirely uninteresting hawking something entirely worthless- which is not something you often see on Comedy Central. You've never watched Colbert or Stewart sit through an interview with a Kardashian, for example. Colbert will likely have to do that, and he'll likely be expected to play somewhat nice.
 
2014-05-05 03:38:22 PM

eagles95: Watching the Colbert one now...seriously how no one knew what he was about it mind numbing


Colbert has been doing the best performance art I have seen and managed to get a show and 10 years out of it.  I am betting he could get another 10 years but why not move on to something different.

I recall when his show first started, people honestly believed he was the conservative answer to the Daily Show.  Then the 'Better Know a District' stuff started and for a while people were game to go on the show and talk about themselves and the district.  I think it took 2-3 years before people in Congress figured out what he was doing and (again I might be recalling the details incorrectly) sent out memo's to not go on Colbert's Show or the Daily Show for the interviews.  Yet, every few months he finds one congressman to agree to an interview.

I think I could make a fortune working in DC as a media/social media consultant where my only job is to say NO to the congressmen when they ask if they should send out a tweet or go on a TV show.  Clearly it is a skill missing in DC at the moment.

Congressman: Should I send out this snarky tweet about rape victims?
Me: No.
Congressman: But it's funny because...
Me: I said NO.  Never send a tweet again. In fact, give me your laptop.  You get it back when you get voted out of office.
 
2014-05-05 03:39:36 PM

cptjeff: LibertyHiller: cptjeff: It won't be the same type of show as the Report, he will have to deal with some celbs hawking garbage, but I very much doubt it'll be the same generic Letterman/Leno/Fallon tripe. It's a decision that makes more and more sense the more I think about it.

Um, every episode of Daily Show/Colbert Report has a "celeb hawking garbage"; it's kind of the format: 22 minutes per episode, celebrity comes on after the second commercial break. He's getting paid to do the Carson/Letterman/Leno/Fallon thing, just refreshed a bit.

It's going to be a question of what the audience does when he's had three celebs hawking garbage on the couch, four nights a week, 40 weeks a year, for 10 years.

I'm not saying they don't do interviews now, I'm saying they don't do ones with vapid people pitching worthless things. Look at the actual guest list for TDS and TCR. Most of them have something to hawk, but Stewart and Colbert retain a lot of control to bring on only or at least mostly people they actually find interesting, and the often have people who are pretty obscure on their shows. Letterman/Leno/Fallon don't have that kind of control- they often have to take who the studio throws at them, and that requires having to sit through somebody entirely uninteresting hawking something entirely worthless- which is not something you often see on Comedy Central. You've never watched Colbert or Stewart sit through an interview with a Kardashian, for example. Colbert will likely have to do that, and he'll likely be expected to play somewhat nice.


Yeah, it is the nature of the 11:35 time slot.... those three shows basically are shills for stars of movies and TV shows on their parent network to promote, promote, promote (major stars get the first slot, secondary stars will get invited in for the 2nd interview).

Even the 12:35 spots have much more leeway... which is why Ferguson often has much more obscure or interesting guests.  And as stated, the "main" (and only) guest on TDS and TCR are often politicians, scientists, authors, etc that would NEVER get first interview billing on the 11:35 shows.
 
2014-05-05 03:42:51 PM

bluenote13: Colbert has been doing the best performance art I have seen and managed to get a show and 10 years out of it.


It is brilliant.  If nothing else because some people still believe it's not a character.  You'd think the schtick would wear thin, but not yet.  However, once again, I just don't see A-list people doing this unless he drastically changes his persona.
 
2014-05-05 03:47:07 PM

Empty Matchbook: Yeah, those two points are DEFINITELY comparable.

Website being down= fake war.


I noticed you skipped the erosion of privacy rights portion.
 
2014-05-05 03:47:15 PM

IlGreven: I'm sorry, but "Community" is worse, and that's why it gets crap ratings. Suck it up and prepare to move on.


Sure. If something's popular to more people, it's better. Now if you'll pardon me, I'm throwing away this stupid, elitist oven so I can eat more of the world's best hamburger, the Big Mac.
 
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