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(Opposing Views)   Growing out your hair so that you can donate it to cancer patients, kid? That's unfortunate. You are no longer qualified to hit a ball with a stick   (opposingviews.com) divider line 139
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2014-05-05 08:34:31 AM
Thats some entertaining faux-outrage right there
 
2014-05-05 08:47:14 AM

cman: Thats some entertaining faux-outrage right there


If it's on Farcebook, it's import cannot be questioned! It *has* to be an outrage.
 
2014-05-05 08:47:45 AM
Maybe he should read the the sign and get a real job.
 
2014-05-05 08:48:44 AM
Damn Yankees
 
2014-05-05 08:50:19 AM
You gotta make choices in life.

Do you want to help people? Or do you want to hit a ball with a stick?

Have the kid quit baseball, and teach the kid a valuable lesson that people will fark with him his entire life.
 
2014-05-05 08:50:36 AM
get a hair cut hippy and do something about those side burns

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2014-05-05 08:50:56 AM
dear god, if you try to copy paste text from that site, it becomes the most farked thing I've ever seen.

"I tell the kids, have your hair at respectable length, and look like ball players," said MacKenzie, standing by his comments in the viral clip. "I stick by my words. I guess I'm old school, you bet. Why does it matter? Because I'm trying to teach these kids about some character, and some life skills. "

Life Skill: know when to stfu... telling people that you're teaching kids about "character" by ensuring none of your team gives a fark about namby pamby cancer kids is not helping you. The life skill you should learn is when to enforce rules, and when to acknowledge that though a rule may have had good intentions, sometimes it had consequences that weren't foreseen, making enforcement dumb.
 
2014-05-05 08:51:10 AM
"You need to be respectful of your coach," said Kim Jorgenson, the teen's mom. "You need to be respectful of the rules of the game. I don't think your hair has anything to do with that."

So, be respectful to your coach as long as he doesn't ask you to do something you disagree with. If he does, ha ha, screw him. Nice lesson you are teaching your kid there, mom.

Also, mandatory Simpson's reference;

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2014-05-05 08:51:27 AM

fluffy2097: You gotta make choices in life.

Do you want to help people? Or do you want to hit a ball with a stick?

Have the kid quit baseball, and teach the kid a valuable lesson that people will fark with him his entire life.


But I want to have my cake and eat it too!!!!
 
2014-05-05 08:52:12 AM

Cheron: get a hair cut hippy and do something about those side burns

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Dang, it. Too slow. Good job, cheron.
 
2014-05-05 08:53:49 AM
Using sports to teach young people to be respectful and respectable: Good.

Thinking that has something to do with hair length: Not Good.

Using sports to teach young people that rigid adherence to meaningless rules is more important than helping cancer patients: Very Not Good.

Plus,
I tell the kids, have your hair at respectable length, and look like ball players
Ten seconds with google just showed me enough long-haired pro baseball players to invalidate that.
 
2014-05-05 08:54:19 AM
I find it very surprising that in 2014 we still have people who get upset about how young men cut their hair.  How is long hair disrespecting someone?
 
2014-05-05 08:54:20 AM

Crudbucket: But I want to have my cake and eat it too!!!!


Then buy your own cake and eat it at home where the asshole can't have any!

Youth sports is not a battle worth fighting. It would be fun to get him fired and then say "I don't feel like playing ball anymore" though. Should piss the coach off good.
 
2014-05-05 08:54:29 AM

firefly212: dear god, if you try to copy paste text from that site, it becomes the most farked thing I've ever seen.

"I tell the kids, have your hair at respectable length, and look like ball players," said MacKenzie, standing by his comments in the viral clip. "I stick by my words. I guess I'm old school, you bet. Why does it matter? Because I'm trying to teach these kids about some character, and some life skills. "

Life Skill: know when to stfu... telling people that you're teaching kids about "character" by ensuring none of your team gives a fark about namby pamby cancer kids is not helping you. The life skill you should learn is when to enforce rules, and when to acknowledge that though a rule may have had good intentions, sometimes it had consequences that weren't foreseen, making enforcement dumb.


He's just afraid the kids will have to go to court, for selling dope to some kids, only a couple of lids, they stood around and made bids
 
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2014-05-05 08:54:38 AM
Yup, cause the length of your hair is really all about 'character'  - it's more about the petty power trip of a double dumb ass coach and his prejudices turned into policy.
 
2014-05-05 08:55:11 AM

fluffy2097: Crudbucket: But I want to have my cake and eat it too!!!!

Then buy your own cake and eat it at home where the asshole can't have any!

Youth sports is not a battle worth fighting. It would be fun to get him fired and then say "I don't feel like playing ball anymore" though. Should piss the coach off good.


The league is backing the coach.
 
2014-05-05 08:56:17 AM
This is pretty much par for the course with baseball coaches in my experience.

I played tee ball through high school and just about every coach I ever met or played under was a raging asshole who just liked yelling at kids because their lives didn't turn out the way they wanted.
 
2014-05-05 08:56:27 AM
Gotta make sure we don't have any inconvenient "individuals" running around having independent thoughts.  Baseball is a TEAM sport where the whole TEAM participates in every plan.  When you go up to bat, are you alone in the box, standing up against one man throwing a ball at you?  HELL NO!  This is a TEAM SPORT!

/Loves sports
//Hates sports
 
2014-05-05 08:57:01 AM
The coach is an asshole but it looks like he also set the rules to be on the team. Troy Polamalu had to cut his hair at USC.

Cut your hair kid, or accept the invitation to play with the other team. It sucks, but sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it to (not that it should happen in this situation). I've seen a soccer club split in two because two coaches/directors didn't believe in the same fitness routines. Dumb shiat happens.
 
2014-05-05 08:57:04 AM
The coach is only looking out for him. If he doesn't cut his hair, he might end up playing for the Red Sox.
 
2014-05-05 08:57:16 AM
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Yup. Totally impossible to have long hair and play baseball.
 
2014-05-05 08:57:30 AM

sigdiamond2000: This is pretty much par for the course with baseball coaches in my experience.

I played tee ball through high school and just about every coach I ever met or played under was a raging asshole who just liked yelling at kids because their lives didn't turn out the way they wanted.


Is high school T ball even a real thing?  Why?
 
2014-05-05 08:59:56 AM
If you want to join a private club, such as a sporting organization, you have to abide by the rules and regulations of that club.

I've seen plenty of stories here on FARK about kids violating the dress code by growing longer-than-allowed hair saying "it's for cancer patients" - so many, in fact, that I can't help but think it's little more than a convenient excuse to break the rules, and nothing more than a variant of "Think of the Children"

If the kid wanted to wear a T-shirt rather than his jersey, he wouldn't be allowed, even if the T-shirt bore the logo of a charity.

If the kid wants to both play baseball, and have long hair, then he should join a team that doesn't have a rule against long hair.
 
2014-05-05 09:00:05 AM

Egoy3k: sigdiamond2000: This is pretty much par for the course with baseball coaches in my experience.

I played tee ball through high school and just about every coach I ever met or played under was a raging asshole who just liked yelling at kids because their lives didn't turn out the way they wanted.

Is high school T ball even a real thing?  Why?


Laughter OL. I meant tee ball through high school baseball.

I'm intrigued by the concept of high school T ball though. You may be on to something.
 
2014-05-05 09:00:46 AM

redmid17: The coach is an asshole but it looks like he also set the rules to be on the team. Troy Polamalu had to cut his hair at USC.

Cut your hair kid, or accept the invitation to play with the other team. It sucks, but sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it to (not that it should happen in this situation). I've seen a soccer club split in two because two coaches/directors didn't believe in the same fitness routines. Dumb shiat happens.


This is so farking ironic my whole body just became magnetic.

The lesson shouldn't be "follow the dumb rule, kids", but rather "don't make dumb rules, people in power."

But after the botched execution in Oklahoma (which has nothing to do with this), my faith in people is proper deflated, so I'm sure everyone will get behind the coach.
 
2014-05-05 09:03:56 AM
Why does this not surprise me...

\organized sports FTW
 
2014-05-05 09:04:45 AM

Crudbucket: But I want to have my cake and eat it too!!!!


That saying has always bugged me, of course you want to eat the cake, what's the point of having cake if you don't eat it?
 
2014-05-05 09:04:48 AM

the real racist: If you want to join a private club, such as a sporting organization, you have to abide by the rules and regulations of that club.

I've seen plenty of stories here on FARK about kids violating the dress code by growing longer-than-allowed hair saying "it's for cancer patients" - so many, in fact, that I can't help but think it's little more than a convenient excuse to break the rules, and nothing more than a variant of "Think of the Children"

If the kid wanted to wear a T-shirt rather than his jersey, he wouldn't be allowed, even if the T-shirt bore the logo of a charity.

If the kid wants to both play baseball, and have long hair, then he should join a team that doesn't have a rule against long hair.


I'm sorry you can't imagine people wanting to do something easy and free to help those less fortunate than them...  that's really sad.  Dress codes have two components, 1) the uniform.  I have no problem with this.  Especially in team sports.  2) general appearance.  This is where the dumb ass rules start to appear.  No jewelry?  Sure, that can be hazardous.  Hair tied back?  Absolutely ok with this for the same reason.  Short hair because you're a boy and boys should look a certain way?  Hahahahahaha go fark yourself.

/donated to the horizon spill clean-up
//then to locks of love in 2012
///almost ready to do it again
 
2014-05-05 09:05:00 AM
Coach is an absolute dick. Hope he kid quits the team.
 
2014-05-05 09:05:13 AM
My wife would get along well with this coach. She cannot watch a baseball or football game without making snarky comments about how 'unprofessional looking' the hair is on some players.

But in her case I think it is some jealously since she hates her own hair.
 
2014-05-05 09:05:52 AM

the real racist: If you want to join a private club, such as a sporting organization, you have to abide by the rules and regulations of that club.

I've seen plenty of stories here on FARK about kids violating the dress code by growing longer-than-allowed hair saying "it's for cancer patients" - so many, in fact, that I can't help but think it's little more than a convenient excuse to break the rules, and nothing more than a variant of "Think of the Children"

If the kid wanted to wear a T-shirt rather than his jersey, he wouldn't be allowed, even if the T-shirt bore the logo of a charity.

If the kid wants to both play baseball, and have long hair, then he should join a team that doesn't have a rule against long hair.


I agree somewhat with the basic principle you're saying. That said, what in the fark does hair length have to do with baseball? It has absolutely no relevance to the game (unless you have it impairing your vision or something) and there does not need to be a rule about it in the first place.
 
2014-05-05 09:07:19 AM

BeesNuts: redmid17: The coach is an asshole but it looks like he also set the rules to be on the team. Troy Polamalu had to cut his hair at USC.

Cut your hair kid, or accept the invitation to play with the other team. It sucks, but sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it to (not that it should happen in this situation). I've seen a soccer club split in two because two coaches/directors didn't believe in the same fitness routines. Dumb shiat happens.

This is so farking ironic my whole body just became magnetic.

The lesson shouldn't be "follow the dumb rule, kids", but rather "don't make dumb rules, people in power."

But after the botched execution in Oklahoma (which has nothing to do with this), my faith in people is proper deflated, so I'm sure everyone will get behind the coach.


You'll have to explain to me why Troy Polamalu cutting his hair is ironic. Can't say I get where you're going with it unless you mean Troy went pro with long ass hair?
 
2014-05-05 09:08:15 AM

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Yup. Totally impossible to have long hair and play baseball.


Came for Johnny Damon and Oscar Gamble - leaving extremely satisfied.
 
2014-05-05 09:08:28 AM
Egoy3k:  Is high school T ball even a real thing?  Why?

Title IX?
 
2014-05-05 09:12:16 AM

Egoy3k: I find it very surprising that in 2014 we still have people who get upset about how young men cut their hair.  How is long hair disrespecting someone?


Exactly.  IT'S...JUST...HAIR.

Back in the 80s, my ornery old man (who was born in the 20s) had a fit that my hair was long and bushy and told me I "was going to get a respectable haircut".  He used to utter snippy comments at men with long hair anytime he was out in public.  His favorite line was, "They oughta put you in the military.  That'll straighten you out."  Ballsy words from a jack ass who never served a day in the military.

When my own son started sporting a shaggy mop, I realized that he's a teen and wants to do his own thing, so why make a big deal out of it.  My barber agreed.  After all, it's not my hair, so who the fark cares?????
 
2014-05-05 09:12:50 AM

Son of Thunder: Using sports to teach young people to be respectful and respectable: Good.

Thinking that has something to do with hair length: Not Good.

Using sports to teach young people that rigid adherence to meaningless rules is more important than helping cancer patients: Very Not Good.

Plus,
I tell the kids, have your hair at respectable length, and look like ball players
Ten seconds with google just showed me enough long-haired pro baseball players to invalidate that.


Was going to say this. Even if you consider all sports it holds true.

/Polamalu Country here
 
2014-05-05 09:16:22 AM

Egoy3k: I find it very surprising that in 2014 we still have people who get upset about how young men cut their hair.  How is long hair disrespecting someone?


Yep. It's a flashback to the 1960s and 70s.
 
2014-05-05 09:17:36 AM
Let's only have rules until they inconvenience someone.
 
2014-05-05 09:21:32 AM
"it's about getting along on a team, and about being respectable young people, and to be able to cope in life, because you're always going to be dealing with rules and people."

while the last part of this statement by the coach is technically true...it seems to me that teaching a kid that sometimes you'll have to deal with authoritarian assholes by actually being an authoritarian asshole doesn't really seem to make a very salient point.
 
2014-05-05 09:22:59 AM

JackieRabbit: Let's only have rules until they inconvenience someone.


well, as it was pointed out, having long hair is not actually against the rules in baseball.

it's really just some old guy shaking his fist and longing for the days when they would teach the hippies a lesson by sending them to vietnam, or something.
 
2014-05-05 09:27:15 AM
Lesson learned. What is more important?
Helping others?
Or that sports come first?

The lesson will stick to this kid for life.

Pick one.
Be a good person.
Or be an asshole.

Good people are hard to spot.
They don't advertise it.
 
2014-05-05 09:27:16 AM

redmid17: BeesNuts: redmid17: The coach is an asshole but it looks like he also set the rules to be on the team. Troy Polamalu had to cut his hair at USC.

Cut your hair kid, or accept the invitation to play with the other team. It sucks, but sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it to (not that it should happen in this situation). I've seen a soccer club split in two because two coaches/directors didn't believe in the same fitness routines. Dumb shiat happens.

This is so farking ironic my whole body just became magnetic.

The lesson shouldn't be "follow the dumb rule, kids", but rather "don't make dumb rules, people in power."

But after the botched execution in Oklahoma (which has nothing to do with this), my faith in people is proper deflated, so I'm sure everyone will get behind the coach.

You'll have to explain to me why Troy Polamalu cutting his hair is ironic. Can't say I get where you're going with it unless you mean Troy went pro with long ass hair?


My 2cents. The coaches who really are powerful don't do stupid shiat to FEEL powerful.
 
2014-05-05 09:28:14 AM
I've never worked out whether it's a requirement or an effect of the job, but every coach I ever dealt with has been moronic beyond imagining.
I remember one in particular that we used to referee a corporate event. He was ex major league something or other, and was incapable of basic arithmetic.
As a result, our team won the competition when I pointed out an error in the scoring. The silly sod tried to argue.
 
2014-05-05 09:29:13 AM

Tom_Slick: Crudbucket: But I want to have my cake and eat it too!!!!

That saying has always bugged me, of course you want to eat the cake, what's the point of having cake if you don't eat it?


The point being, once you eat the cake you won't have anymore cake. There are consequences to actions, can't have things both ways, time is a flat circle, etc.
 
2014-05-05 09:29:45 AM

sigdiamond2000: Egoy3k: sigdiamond2000: This is pretty much par for the course with baseball coaches in my experience.

I played tee ball through high school and just about every coach I ever met or played under was a raging asshole who just liked yelling at kids because their lives didn't turn out the way they wanted.

Is high school T ball even a real thing?  Why?

Laughter OL. I meant tee ball through high school baseball.

I'm intrigued by the concept of high school T ball though. You may be on to something.


Adult T-ball would be fun if you coupled it with drinking. It might be the only T-ball game ever to see a batter strike out.
 
2014-05-05 09:30:10 AM
I think we're all ignoring the important part of the story here.  Who the hell wants to wear a humar-hair wig while they're going through chemo?
 
2014-05-05 09:33:26 AM

Egoy3k: sigdiamond2000: Egoy3k: sigdiamond2000: This is pretty much par for the course with baseball coaches in my experience.

I played tee ball through high school and just about every coach I ever met or played under was a raging asshole who just liked yelling at kids because their lives didn't turn out the way they wanted.

Is high school T ball even a real thing?  Why?

Laughter OL. I meant tee ball through high school baseball.

I'm intrigued by the concept of high school T ball though. You may be on to something.

Adult T-ball would be fun if you coupled it with drinking. It might be the only T-ball game ever to see a batter strike out.


If you hit the ball, you have to chug a beer.

Get on base?  Chug a beer.

You better believe you have to chug a beer when you're out.
 
2014-05-05 09:35:41 AM

John Nash: I think we're all ignoring the important part of the story here.  Who the hell wants to wear a humar-hair wig while they're going through chemo?


Kids who are already feeling very different from other kids. Especially when it makes them feel ugly. Also women and some men, same reasons and more.

It's not like most of them wear it 24/7

/no allergic reactions too
 
2014-05-05 09:39:50 AM

fluffy2097: fun to get him fired


As much as I don't agree with his long hair rule, he offered to quit coaching multiple times if they didn't like it. They want some sort of slavery system where he has to continue coaching, but under their rules.
 
2014-05-05 09:40:02 AM

Crudbucket: Tom_Slick: Crudbucket: But I want to have my cake and eat it too!!!!

That saying has always bugged me, of course you want to eat the cake, what's the point of having cake if you don't eat it?

The point being, once you eat the cake you won't have anymore cake. There are consequences to actions, can't have things both ways, time is a flat circle, etc.


Um, no shiat?  That's what happens when you eat something....the it not being there anymore part.  Who the fark buys a cake just to look at it?  Not me.  If I buy a cake you're damn sure gonna see me eat it.  What if I changed the saying to "You can't have a bike and ride it too."  Has the same meaning and its still a dumbass phrase.

Yes, I understand what it means.  That doesn't change that fact that its farking stupid.
 
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