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(Newser)   Half of Illinois wants to leave the state. Thanks Obama, Cubs, Bears, Bulls   (newser.com) divider line 75
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2014-05-05 09:53:34 AM  
CO here.
Freshly loaded bowl of bud for breakfast.
Sunny and beautiful outside.

/Suck it, rest of the world.
 
2014-05-05 10:06:41 AM  
I left Illinois for a few years but realized that Missouri was worse and came back.
 
2014-05-05 10:15:19 AM  

CtrlAltDestroy: IsThatYourFinalAnswer: Illinois is a state of extremes. Up north, you have chicago and all the suckishness that entails living there. Down south, you have nothing but rural trash and meth.  Everything around is effectively the same.

You either love being a midwest rural yokel, you move out, or you're trapped by job/family/cash.

Or you could live in the suburbs surrounding Chicago and have a normal middle class existence while still retaining proximity to the city for when you're in the mood to visit. That works too. The suburbs are a great place to be. Once you get 10+ miles away from the city you get a lot more open space and quieter areas with all of the normal things you'd expect. Decent schools, multiple shopping malls, tons of restaurants of every type, enough room for the 1/4+ acre lot with a 3 bedroom house and yard, etc.

/Want to buy a house soon.
//Looking at Bolingbrook


This is a joke, right? I grew up in the burbs and lived on the north side for a time. It sucks equally.

Was glad to move out to Arizona. I only miss my sports teams, that is it.
 
2014-05-05 10:17:32 AM  

Vodka Zombie: I live in Champaign now. I kind of like a city where rush hour starts at 4:30 and ends as soon as the stoplight turns green.


I loved it down there, but, unfortunately a bad job situation forced me back north. If I didn't have to compete with kids working their way through/fresh out of college, I'd be back in a heartbeat. Then again, I can barely recognize today's version of Green Street.

On the other hand, my job moved to about five minutes from home, so rush hour for me is a non-issue.

snowshovel: With 5 of the last 6 (all democratic) Governors going to prison for corruption


Derp. Corruption in Illinois is bipartisan.

The last six governors:
Pat Quinn (D): still in office
Rod Blagojevich (D, 1-1/2 terms): impeached, removed from office, currently in prison for corruption
George Ryan (R, 1 term): went to prison for corruption, released in 2013
Jim Edgar (R, 2 terms): stayed out of trouble
Jim Thompson (R, 4 terms): stayed out of trouble
Dan Walker (D, 1 term): went to prison for loan fraud (after he had left politics, not while he was in office)
 
2014-05-05 10:30:59 AM  

Scottybobotty: This is a joke, right? I grew up in the burbs and lived on the north side for a time. It sucks equally.

Was glad to move out to Arizona. I only miss my sports teams, that is it.


I used to live in Arizona. Phoenix, specifically. I much, much prefer the Illinois Chicago area suburbs.
 
2014-05-05 10:36:09 AM  

doglover: Chicago Thread that isn't about pizza or guns! Finally a chance.

Explain this to me: Harry Dresdon NEVER HAS A HAT, and comments on the fact he should get one but hasn't yet in every damn book.

SO WHY IS ALL THE ART OF HIM IN A HAT!?

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It just doesn't make sense. It's like this:

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Because Dresdon is a western cowboy archetype. His trappings are magic, but he is the sheriff, the gunslinger, the Lone Farking Ranger. The art is there to give you an impression of the book, to hook you in, to get you to buy the dam book. If you did not realize that you are either the worst kind of wanker fanboi or a moron.
 
2014-05-05 10:45:11 AM  
If not for an elderly parent that I take care of, I would be one of the people who would move right away. It is not that I hate IL completely, it is more that I like other places better. Having lived most of my life on the east coast, the midwest is just not my preference.

I currently am near the aforementioned Bolingbrook area. I suppose it is fine as far a suburban life goes. However, I grow tired of the endless strip malls, housing developments, chain restaurants and a general rush to either keep up with The Joneses or be The Joneses.

I have only out here 7 years. Chalk it up to "old dog/new tricks" I guess.
 
2014-05-05 10:47:22 AM  

Destructor: LazyMedia: If you live in the 'burbs like most people do, how would you even know what state you lived in if you stayed in the Midwest? Flat, boring, and exactly the same tract houses and chain stores as far as the eye can see.

For reasons I've never understood, there's also a generic hatred of trees. A lot of suburbs simply don't bother with them. They don't plant them or don't have them.


Much of Illinois is in what used to be tall grass prairie (and still is, corn being a grass). The eastern hardwood forest basically stops at I-57, except for where it bulges out along the lake and follows the Illinois River and its tributaries.
 
2014-05-05 11:16:49 AM  
Burr: 
I love this state too, but the strange thing about it, Ohio is like 3 states.  The S/SE is Appalachia, the NE is more like the eastern US, and the W/NW is definitely Midwest.


Ah, so it wasn't just me.  Was heading to Pennsylvania from Chicago through northern Ohio and noticed the accents change as I crossed the state.

/southern Illinois is essentially Kentucky
//same as in Indiana
 
2014-05-05 11:21:42 AM  

Cheesehead_Dave: Fun fact:  Chicago should have been in Wisconsin.


Glad that didn't work out.

Illinois/Chicago both sucks and swallows.

/FIBS
 
2014-05-05 11:29:22 AM  
I was in Chicago once when it was so cold, I saw an attorney with his hands in his own pockets.
 
2014-05-05 11:31:20 AM  
As a transplanted East Coaster, (who also lived West Coast for a number of years) now living in Chicago, I can safely say that Illinois sucks balls and I would leave this state at the drop of a hat, given the opportunity. Which may be coming up shortly.

So long Illinois Nazis!
 
2014-05-05 11:32:30 AM  
Half of Kansas wants to leave, too. Can we arrange a swap?
 
2014-05-05 11:37:06 AM  

Truther: Cheesehead_Dave: Fun fact:  Chicago should have been in Wisconsin.
Glad that didn't work out.
Illinois/Chicago both sucks and swallows.
/FIBS


No fondness for Illinois anymore, but I'd hate to move away from the Lake Michigan area.  Then I look at the alternatives...  like 'sconsin.

After years and years of listening to cheesehead transplants (that moved to Illinois because of the lack of jobs in 'sconsin) whine endlessly about how much Illinois sucks, don't think I could ever bring myself to live there.


Note to cheeseheads:  A lot of the FIBS you complain about speeding through your State are your own kind racing "back home" for the weekend.
 
2014-05-05 11:51:30 AM  

UtileDysfunktion: Truther: Cheesehead_Dave: Fun fact:  Chicago should have been in Wisconsin.
Glad that didn't work out.
Illinois/Chicago both sucks and swallows.
/FIBS

No fondness for Illinois anymore, but I'd hate to move away from the Lake Michigan area.  Then I look at the alternatives...  like 'sconsin.

After years and years of listening to cheesehead transplants (that moved to Illinois because of the lack of jobs in 'sconsin) whine endlessly about how much Illinois sucks, don't think I could ever bring myself to live there.


Note to cheeseheads:  A lot of the FIBS you complain about speeding through your State are your own kind racing "back home" for the weekend.


I've convinced my self that if I had to move to the states I'd go to Wis. Seems quite nice, but I've only seen it from the I90 and the I94.
 
2014-05-05 12:01:08 PM  

CtrlAltDestroy: IsThatYourFinalAnswer: Illinois is a state of extremes. Up north, you have chicago and all the suckishness that entails living there. Down south, you have nothing but rural trash and meth.  Everything around is effectively the same.

You either love being a midwest rural yokel, you move out, or you're trapped by job/family/cash.

Or you could live in the suburbs surrounding Chicago and have a normal middle class existence while still retaining proximity to the city for when you're in the mood to visit. That works too. The suburbs are a great place to be. Once you get 10+ miles away from the city you get a lot more open space and quieter areas with all of the normal things you'd expect. Decent schools, multiple shopping malls, tons of restaurants of every type, enough room for the 1/4+ acre lot with a 3 bedroom house and yard, etc.

/Want to buy a house soon.
//Looking at Bolingbrook


My advice for 'burbs, go NORTH.

Better for business.  Better for long term property value.
 
2014-05-05 12:05:10 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: My advice for 'burbs, go NORTH.

Better for business.  Better for long term property value.


My job is southwest of Chicago. Near Midway. What area would be good that wouldn't have more than a half hour commute?
 
2014-05-05 12:09:12 PM  

CtrlAltDestroy: DeathByGeekSquad: My advice for 'burbs, go NORTH.

Better for business.  Better for long term property value.

My job is southwest of Chicago. Near Midway. What area would be good that wouldn't have more than a half hour commute?


From none of the north/northwest suburbs, that's for sure.

Is LaGrange too far? That area was pretty nice.
 
2014-05-05 12:15:12 PM  

Needlessly Complicated: From none of the north/northwest suburbs, that's for sure.

Is LaGrange too far? That area was pretty nice.


No, that's easily within range. I'll look online at the area and what kind of houses are there. Thanks.

Ideally, though, I'd like to stay out of C[r]ook County.
 
2014-05-05 12:15:18 PM  

CtrlAltDestroy: DeathByGeekSquad: My advice for 'burbs, go NORTH.

Better for business.  Better for long term property value.

My job is southwest of Chicago. Near Midway. What area would be good that wouldn't have more than a half hour commute?


You can most likely get to Downers Grove in that time. Darien is nice enough. There are a number of really nice 'burbs even closer, like Western Springs and Hinsdale if you can afford them.
 
2014-05-05 12:16:41 PM  

CruJones: My GF would is in the north side of Chicago and would leave immediately of her kid's father wasn't there.  It's great for about four months a year, and just too damn cold the rest.


Cru, did you fall too hard on Helltrack last night?  I'm not sure that first sentence was English....

/BTW, the soundtrack was just released in digital on iTunes in February!  I can finally give my worn-out cassette a rest!
 
2014-05-05 12:19:29 PM  

CtrlAltDestroy: Ideally, though, I'd like to stay out of C[r]ook County.


This is true, although taxes are astronomical in DuPage as well.

I wouldn't mind the taxes if we got decent services.
 
2014-05-05 03:36:48 PM  

Dupa: DeaH: IsThatYourFinalAnswer: Illinois is a state of extremes. Up north, you have chicago and all the suckishness that entails living there.

I loved everything about living in Chicago except the weather. It's one of the cheapest cities to live in. It's also one of the nicest. Frankly, once I ditched my car, it was a lot cheaper than living in Southwest Ohio, where I live now. There are a lot of things to do. Excellent food (lots of inexpensive green grocers and butchers, as well as great restaurants that have nothing to do with pizza-esque casseroles). Good theater. Nice museums. Great music scene. Good comedy scene. Good public transit.

What is this "suck" you speak of?

This morning's headline: "4 shot in River North among 2 killed, 17 wounded across city"

/good thing it was Sunday


I can live where violence is not random. I am betting you dollars to doughnuts that those shooting were in very specific blocks of very specific neighborhoods.
 
2014-05-05 03:42:44 PM  

DeaH: Dupa: DeaH: IsThatYourFinalAnswer: Illinois is a state of extremes. Up north, you have chicago and all the suckishness that entails living there.

I loved everything about living in Chicago except the weather. It's one of the cheapest cities to live in. It's also one of the nicest. Frankly, once I ditched my car, it was a lot cheaper than living in Southwest Ohio, where I live now. There are a lot of things to do. Excellent food (lots of inexpensive green grocers and butchers, as well as great restaurants that have nothing to do with pizza-esque casseroles). Good theater. Nice museums. Great music scene. Good comedy scene. Good public transit.

What is this "suck" you speak of?

This morning's headline: "4 shot in River North among 2 killed, 17 wounded across city"

/good thing it was Sunday

I can live where violence is not random. I am betting you dollars to doughnuts that those shooting were in very specific blocks of very specific neighborhoods.


Chicago murders are for the very most part limited to a few neighborhoods, and a huge number of the ones outside of those neighborhoods still involved both victims and perpetrators from those same neighborhoods.  http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20130814/BLOGS02/130819920/whe n -it-comes-to-murder-chicago-is-two-cities

If you aren't from those areas, you are probably less likely to be murdered than in many far less violent nations.
 
2014-05-06 04:45:02 PM  

UtileDysfunktion: Truther: Cheesehead_Dave: Fun fact:  Chicago should have been in Wisconsin.
Glad that didn't work out.
Illinois/Chicago both sucks and swallows.
/FIBS

No fondness for Illinois anymore, but I'd hate to move away from the Lake Michigan area.  Then I look at the alternatives...  like 'sconsin.

After years and years of listening to cheesehead transplants (that moved to Illinois because of the lack of jobs in 'sconsin) whine endlessly about how much Illinois sucks, don't think I could ever bring myself to live there.


Note to cheeseheads:  A lot of the FIBS you complain about speeding through your State are your own kind racing "back home" for the weekend.


I love FIBS speeding thru my state.

Provides revenue and the State Patrol is too busy pulling them over to bother with the Wisconsin speeders

/yes, they target Illinois drivers
 
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