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(ABC)   New suite with 1 bedroom, 1 bathroom with shower, living room with leather seating and flat-screen TV, and butler can be yours for a MERE $21,000 for seven and a half hours. Price includes trip from Abu Dhabi to London   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 27
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2014-05-05 04:48:24 AM
Pro tip to you liberal retards:  THIS is how you make money!
 
2014-05-05 04:51:10 AM

Daraymann: Pro tip to you liberal retards:  THIS is how you make money!


By becoming a prostitute and helping others join the mile high club?
 
2014-05-05 04:58:48 AM

Daraymann: Pro tip to you liberal retards:  THIS is how you make money!


By trolling? I've considered getting into the paid troll business, but the market is brutal.
 
2014-05-05 05:00:15 AM
Disparity. What's in your wallet?
 
2014-05-05 05:02:26 AM
Why is any of this luxurious crap that only the 1% can afford "cool," subby?

I think you meant to say "it's bullshiat."
 
2014-05-05 05:33:10 AM

Daraymann: Pro tip to you liberal retards:  THIS is how you make money!


Running an airline is not how you make money. This kind of service has been tried before with disastrous results.
 
2014-05-05 06:29:25 AM

Tunney: Daraymann: Pro tip to you liberal retards:  THIS is how you make money!

Running an airline is not how you make money. This kind of service has been tried before with disastrous results.


The description of their long-haul first class service doesn't sound significantly different from some of the other big carriers and Singapore, for instance, has offered a suite product for several years.
 
2014-05-05 06:31:08 AM
Daraymann:   Pro tip to you liberal retards:  THIS is how you make money!

By being born into Abu Dhabi/Dubai/UAE royalty?

Yes, I would agree with that.
 
2014-05-05 06:55:00 AM

Daraymann: Pro tip to you liberal retards:  THIS is how you make money!


Wrong.  This is how you make money.

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2014-05-05 08:00:58 AM

whidbey: Why is any of this luxurious crap that only the 1% can afford "cool," subby?

I think you meant to say "it's bullshiat."


And who fits out the cabin, the bathroom? Who's the butler that waits on them?

This is EXACTLY what we want for the 1% because I'm sorry, this isn't worth $21K, but if it distributes the wealth of an idiot son of a billionaire, I'm all in favour of it.
 
2014-05-05 08:11:53 AM

farkeruk: whidbey: Why is any of this luxurious crap that only the 1% can afford "cool," subby?

I think you meant to say "it's bullshiat."

And who fits out the cabin, the bathroom? Who's the butler that waits on them?

This is EXACTLY what we want for the 1% because I'm sorry, this isn't worth $21K, but if it distributes the wealth of an idiot son of a billionaire, I'm all in favour of it.


I think you guys mean the 0.001- 0.03%. Someone making $300,000 a year may be in the 1%, but they're not dropping $21,000 on a flight. Plain old first class, sure.
 
2014-05-05 08:16:29 AM
I would think the customer for this has the scratch for his own jet, but WTF do I know, I'm a cheap skate who flies coach.
 
2014-05-05 08:28:09 AM
Dors it have an open bar, that's what i care about.
 
2014-05-05 08:42:49 AM

Tunney: Daraymann: Pro tip to you liberal retards:  THIS is how you make money!

Running an airline is not how you make money. This kind of service has been tried before with disastrous results.


Ummmmm....no.

24" wide fold-flat seat suite.
 
2014-05-05 08:46:08 AM

farkeruk: whidbey: Why is any of this luxurious crap that only the 1% can afford "cool," subby?

I think you meant to say "it's bullshiat."

And who fits out the cabin, the bathroom? Who's the butler that waits on them?

This is EXACTLY what we want for the 1% because I'm sorry, this isn't worth $21K, but if it distributes the wealth of an idiot son of a billionaire, I'm all in favour of it.


Calling this a 1% perk is missing the goal by a mile.

This is a 0.1% perk at best.
 
2014-05-05 08:48:25 AM

dfenstrate: farkeruk: whidbey: Why is any of this luxurious crap that only the 1% can afford "cool," subby?

I think you meant to say "it's bullshiat."

And who fits out the cabin, the bathroom? Who's the butler that waits on them?

This is EXACTLY what we want for the 1% because I'm sorry, this isn't worth $21K, but if it distributes the wealth of an idiot son of a billionaire, I'm all in favour of it.

I think you guys mean the 0.001- 0.03%. Someone making $300,000 a year may be in the 1%, but they're not dropping $21,000 on a flight. Plain old first class, sure.


Beat me to it. We use 1% to mean the super-rich, but in reality there is a whole different stratosphere within that 1%.

That said, I wonder how much more it would be just to rent a private jet.
 
2014-05-05 08:58:51 AM
Fallout Zone:

That said, I wonder how much more it would be just to rent a private jet.

i was looking this up recently out of curiosity and it starts at around $2500-3000 an hour
for a really swanky one, maybe $5000-8000 an hour. those were for domestic usa ones dunno about europe...
so for a 6 or 7 hour flight like this, it's maybe comparable, although there are other considerations. private jets don't have the range that an A380 does, stopping to refuel may be an issue for somebody who has to decide between dropping 20 or 30 thousand on a flight lol. heck if i know.
 
2014-05-05 09:06:54 AM
Is that round trip?  I'd love to send my butler on that for holiday this year, but I would need him back by monday.  Can't risk going overbudget during bonus season, can I?
 
2014-05-05 09:15:12 AM

spesimen: Fallout Zone:

That said, I wonder how much more it would be just to rent a private jet.

i was looking this up recently out of curiosity and it starts at around $2500-3000 an hour
for a really swanky one, maybe $5000-8000 an hour. those were for domestic usa ones dunno about europe...
so for a 6 or 7 hour flight like this, it's maybe comparable, although there are other considerations. private jets don't have the range that an A380 does, stopping to refuel may be an issue for somebody who has to decide between dropping 20 or 30 thousand on a flight lol. heck if i know.


Most of the longer range private jets will get you where you need to go, except for the REALLY long flights.  Private flying is also a completely different experience than commercial.  No lines, no crowds, just a quick ID and luggage check and then you're driven over to your jet.  And, no need for a private suite if the entire space on the jet is yours.


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2014-05-05 09:48:00 AM

valkore: spesimen:
 Private flying is also a completely different experience than commercial.  No lines, no crowds, just a quick ID and luggage check and then you're driven over to your jet.  And, no need for a private suite if the entire space on the jet is yours.


hell yeah it is different! thats why i had looked it up, hahhaa. thanks to the kindness of a friend with some serious scratch i had the opportunity to travel on a private plane (not a jet, but a swanky turboprop) last summer and it was awesome. dealing with the folks at the FBO was like being at a nice hotel.... actually they didn't even check our id, or luggage either, well other than to carry it for us...pretty much the only thing we had to deal with was customs, and it was at smaller airports where we were the only people going through and they basically were just waving us through anyway.

cool chart you posted though, i didn't realize those gulfstreams could do 6000 nm that's pretty crazy. i thought most of the smaller jets were more in the 2-3000nm coast to coast usa type of range.. well it's something to keep in mind if i win the lottery anyway
 
2014-05-05 11:04:46 AM
This is kinda stoopid if you ask me. For just a lil more you can get a private jet from London to Abu Dhabi or Dubai.
Even dumber if you're traveling with someone else of family.
Uber first class or not the fact is you are still sharing the same hull and dependant on the guy paying $300.
 
2014-05-05 11:24:38 AM

Tunney: Daraymann: Pro tip to you liberal retards:  THIS is how you make money!

Running an airline is not how you make money. This kind of service has been tried before with disastrous results.


Tunney has used FACTS against the far-right Conservaderp.

Most observers gain +5 intelligence. The Conservaderp remains UNAFFECTED.
 
2014-05-05 11:35:21 AM

dfenstrate: farkeruk: whidbey: Why is any of this luxurious crap that only the 1% can afford "cool," subby?

I think you meant to say "it's bullshiat."

And who fits out the cabin, the bathroom? Who's the butler that waits on them?

This is EXACTLY what we want for the 1% because I'm sorry, this isn't worth $21K, but if it distributes the wealth of an idiot son of a billionaire, I'm all in favour of it.

I think you guys mean the 0.001- 0.03%. Someone making $300,000 a year may be in the 1%, but they're not dropping $21,000 on a flight. Plain old first class, sure.


You sound very sure.
 
2014-05-05 12:02:32 PM

spesimen: Fallout Zone:

That said, I wonder how much more it would be just to rent a private jet.

i was looking this up recently out of curiosity and it starts at around $2500-3000 an hour
for a really swanky one, maybe $5000-8000 an hour. those were for domestic usa ones dunno about europe...
so for a 6 or 7 hour flight like this, it's maybe comparable, although there are other considerations. private jets don't have the range that an A380 does, stopping to refuel may be an issue for somebody who has to decide between dropping 20 or 30 thousand on a flight lol. heck if i know.


Yeah, I've got clients that fairly regularly charter jets.  Turns out if you've got several people going to the same place, it's pretty cost effective compared to commercial, and you get to go when you want, where you want, nonstop.  If it's a choice between taking all day and risking getting stuck in ORD or ATL, or just going direct in 4 hours, you can get to a meeting and be home that night.  Or you fly commercial, and take three days, one to get there, one for the meeting, and one to get back, because the flights aren't scheduled to even do it in two days.  It can even come out cheaper, hotel rooms for 5-6 people are expensive when your policy is that people don't have to share rooms.

Oh, and no TSA.

This thing?  It's insanely expensive, only on the regular scheduled flights, you still have to go through security (sure, you probably get fast-tracked, but it's still a pain).  I suspect it's going to be empty on most flights unless somebody gets a frequent flyer upgrade.

And if you're really in the 0.001%, you can afford the Boeing Business Jet charter.  That's a whole 737 to yourself, $10k - $15k per hour.
 
2014-05-05 12:44:58 PM

dfenstrate: I think you guys mean the 0.001- 0.03%. Someone making $300,000 a year may be in the 1%, but they're not dropping $21,000 on a flight. Plain old first class, sure.


The funny thing is, it's a perfectly legitimate question to ask someone making $300,000 a year why they're  not dropping $21,000 on a flight once in a while. Yes, of course, there are ways to spend that kind of money that are "better" by almost any standard: charity, investment, something else you want more than an in-flight suite. This is virtually nobody's "optimal" use of $21K, at least if they're spending it on themselves.

But marginal utility being what it is, and the human ability to derive happiness and a sense of security from money being what  it is, someone making $300K a year probably shouldn't reject the idea out of hand, if they think they might enjoy it more than flying first class.

I'm not a "die owing the undertaker money!" zealot by any stretch of the imagination, and I'm not saying that what the world needs is more conspicuous consumption of luxury goods. But past a certain point, being absolutely responsible with disposable income starts becoming irresponsible. $300K is past that certain point, and if you're not "wasting" $20K of that  somehow, you'd almost certainly be better off not having it in the first place.

/for one thing, having your own suite prevents hypocritical faux-socialist $60K/year assholes like me in the next seat over from asking what it is you do that's so goddamn important and special that you deserve so much more money than everybody else
//"you" the hypothetical 1%er, not you  dfenstrate
 
2014-05-05 05:25:29 PM

DarkVader: spesimen: Fallout Zone:

That said, I wonder how much more it would be just to rent a private jet.

i was looking this up recently out of curiosity and it starts at around $2500-3000 an hour
for a really swanky one, maybe $5000-8000 an hour. those were for domestic usa ones dunno about europe...
so for a 6 or 7 hour flight like this, it's maybe comparable, although there are other considerations. private jets don't have the range that an A380 does, stopping to refuel may be an issue for somebody who has to decide between dropping 20 or 30 thousand on a flight lol. heck if i know.

Yeah, I've got clients that fairly regularly charter jets.  Turns out if you've got several people going to the same place, it's pretty cost effective compared to commercial, and you get to go when you want, where you want, nonstop.  If it's a choice between taking all day and risking getting stuck in ORD or ATL, or just going direct in 4 hours, you can get to a meeting and be home that night.  Or you fly commercial, and take three days, one to get there, one for the meeting, and one to get back, because the flights aren't scheduled to even do it in two days.  It can even come out cheaper, hotel rooms for 5-6 people are expensive when your policy is that people don't have to share rooms.

Oh, and no TSA.

This thing?  It's insanely expensive, only on the regular scheduled flights, you still have to go through security (sure, you probably get fast-tracked, but it's still a pain).  I suspect it's going to be empty on most flights unless somebody gets a frequent flyer upgrade.

And if you're really in the 0.001%, you can afford the Boeing Business Jet charter.  That's a whole 737 to yourself, $10k - $15k per hour.


You have to be careful, though, about how long you stay. I've seen charters that charge extra if you aren't going to using the plane for a few days so they can afford to fly to other passengers in the mean time.
 
2014-05-06 08:21:39 AM
Always read the fine print too so you don't get burned.

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