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(Daily Mail)   Coca Cola drops flame-retardant chemical from Powerade. Coming soon: DihydrogenMonoxide-free sports drinks   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 128
    More: Obvious, Powerade, Coca-Cola, flame retardant, dihydrogen monoxides, fire retardant, Beverage Digest, customer service, brominated vegetable oil  
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2014-05-04 03:31:42 PM  
Water and brominated ANYTHING are very different, subbs.
 
2014-05-04 04:01:33 PM  
Wait until the sudden spike in spontaneous human combustion hits

/you won't be laughing then
 
2014-05-04 04:22:52 PM  
Shut up subby
 
2014-05-04 05:04:24 PM  
They already have that, it's called Kool-Aid
 
2014-05-04 05:05:20 PM  
Water isn't ALWAYS a flame retardant (if the stories about greek fire are to be believed).
 
2014-05-04 07:00:17 PM  
Here how about a refreshing glass of H2SO4 subby.
 
2014-05-04 08:35:04 PM  
DihydrogenMonoxide-free? That's retardant.
 
2014-05-04 09:46:10 PM  
Great. So now what's supposed to keep me from bursting into flames after I exercise?

Just kidding. I don't exercise.
 
2014-05-04 09:53:13 PM  

fusillade762: Great. So now what's supposed to keep me from bursting into flames after I exercise?

Just kidding. I don't exercise.


Brawndo. It's got electrolytes.
 
2014-05-04 10:46:18 PM  
 
2014-05-04 10:47:22 PM  

farkingismybusiness: DihydrogenMonoxide-free? That's retardant.


I was trying to think of something. You win.
 
2014-05-04 10:48:00 PM  
So, when Powerade's start spontaneously on fire, we'll see if all the people calling for the removal of this chemical admit that they were wrong.
 
2014-05-04 10:49:16 PM  

06Wahoo: So, when Powerade's start spontaneously on fire, we'll see if all the people calling for the removal of this chemical admit that they were wrong.


Powerades start to spontaneously set.  Geez, I really have to read what I type before I submit.
 
2014-05-04 10:49:51 PM  
Famous quote from the '60's

"I don't care if my lettuce has DDT, as long as it's crisp."
Grace Slick

/ps, we did a lot of chemicals back then
 
2014-05-04 10:54:38 PM  
So, Subby, what am I supposed to drink for the post workout burn?
 
2014-05-04 10:56:14 PM  

06Wahoo: 06Wahoo: So, when Powerade's start spontaneously on fire, we'll see if all the people calling for the removal of this chemical admit that they were wrong.

Powerades start to spontaneously set.  Geez, I really have to read what I type before I submit.


how is that fixing anything?
 
2014-05-04 10:58:18 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Wait until the sudden spike in spontaneous human combustion hits

/you won't be laughing then


KABOOM!!
 
2014-05-04 10:59:04 PM  

Ambivalence: Water isn't ALWAYS a flame retardant (if the stories about greek fire are to be believed).


You don't even need greek fire to test that one.  Try pouring water on a grease fire, or any fire involving a lipid or petroleum.  The flammable hydrophobic lipids/grease/petroleum will just float on top of the water and continue burning.  It's a great way to spread a fire incredibly rapidly, especially in something like a kitchen.
 
2014-05-04 10:59:39 PM  
So I can't be a brominated bro?
 
2014-05-04 11:04:29 PM  
But will it be dropped from Mountain Dew
 
2014-05-04 11:04:48 PM  
Marketed towards health conscious athletes?  More like marketed using heath conscious athletes.
 
2014-05-04 11:05:41 PM  
Some dumb shiat kid starts a petition and Pepsi changes recipes? Wow. Also, everyone on the internet is now a chemist. Feel free to give opinions
 
2014-05-04 11:06:00 PM  
Snortable power drinks are the future!
 
2014-05-04 11:06:30 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Wait until the sudden spike in spontaneous human combustion hits

/you won't be laughing then


No kidding. This company was just trying to make sure that children didn't spontaneously burst into flame, and now they're being forced to remove the flame retardants that make their drinks the safe choice for our warmer-than-normal young people. WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN???!!!!11
 
2014-05-04 11:08:26 PM  

Mr. Oizo: Marketed towards health conscious athletes?  More like marketed using heath conscious athletes.


Kind of like when cereal commercials say "Part of this complete breakfast," but they really mean "Adjacent to this complete breakfast."
 
2014-05-04 11:10:00 PM  
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2014-05-04 11:14:12 PM  
great now powerade is flammable, we can use it in our cars
 
2014-05-04 11:16:28 PM  
www.isaiahhankel.com

/inconsolable
 
2014-05-04 11:17:43 PM  

Ambivalence: Water isn't ALWAYS a flame retardant (if the stories about greek fire are to be believed).


I was living in a city once when it had a magnesium plant catch on fire. Try putting that one out with water.
 
2014-05-04 11:18:29 PM  
Now they need to get rid of frankenfructose if they haven't already. The only sugar that should be in a sports drink is glucose, usually called dextrose in food, which is the simplest and most easily burnable sugar.
 
2014-05-04 11:18:35 PM  

Snarfangel: Mr. Oizo: Marketed towards health conscious athletes?  More like marketed using heath conscious athletes.

Kind of like when cereal commercials say "Part of this complete breakfast," but they really mean "Adjacent to this complete breakfast."


Link
 
2014-05-04 11:29:19 PM  
ballislife.com

This was preventable until now.
 
2014-05-04 11:34:13 PM  

uncoveror: Now they need to get rid of frankenfructose if they haven't already. The only sugar that should be in a sports drink is glucose, usually called dextrose in food, which is the simplest and most easily burnable sugar.


Why? That's the addictive part.
 
2014-05-04 11:39:13 PM  
Just finished watching Filthy, Rich and Catflap.
Now I can't picture anything but all comments here being made by Rick Mayall.
 
2014-05-04 11:43:31 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 11:44:19 PM  
Armchair chemists, the folks who have to describe chemicals by alternate industrial uses, are the worst. "Table salt? You mean the stuff that contains a chemical banned from use during warfare? No thanks!"
 
2014-05-04 11:45:30 PM  

steklo: [img.fark.net image 600x716]


Well that, made me laugh *grin*
 
2014-05-04 11:46:33 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Wait until the sudden spike in spontaneous human combustion hits

/you won't be laughing then


you win !!
 
2014-05-04 11:49:05 PM  
The petition on Change.org noted that the ingredient is linked to a flame retardant and is not approved for use in Japan or the European Union.

Well she-it!  Let me check the last time I looked to Japan or the European Union for any guidance in food safety.

Brominated vegetable oil has been removed from fruit punch and strawberry lemonade flavors in some metro areas, an indication it is being phased out due to consumer pressure.

Well if it's whose blog yells the loudest then lets just make science a popularity contest and bring back slavery while we are at it.

Earlier this year, for instance, Subway said it would remove an ingredient dubbed the 'yoga mat chemical' from its breads. The ingredient, azodicarbonamide, is approved for use by the FDA and can be found in a wide variety of breads.

Who gives a shiat.  It's a chemical that's hard to pronounce.  It's got to be dangerous.  And it has other uses in processes I don't understand.  That right there tells me we are all just guinnea pigs in big corpa-pharma-chema's pocket and maybe powerade wasn't a good decision on my part before I went into my daughter's recital gathering because I felt so much power the pants had to come off.  I'm getting the lawsuit details together now.
 
2014-05-04 11:51:03 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 11:55:49 PM  
I have a sodium bicarbonate fire extinguisher in my kitchen.

Does that mean I should stop eating fire retardant pastries?
 
2014-05-04 11:57:39 PM  

rcoony: I have a sodium bicarbonate fire extinguisher in my kitchen.

Does that mean I should stop eating fire retardant pastries?


Well, I don't think you need to stop entirely. But you might wanna slow down, there, champ.
 
2014-05-05 12:01:57 AM  
That a chemical is used for something else, be it benign or nasty, has no bearing on how it acts in the human body.
 
2014-05-05 12:02:58 AM  
Those who see reason instead of fear of anything that sounds like a chemical may get a kick out of this article.:

http://persephonemagazine.com/2014/04/i-will-not-follow-the-herd/#mo re -146524
 
2014-05-05 12:14:31 AM  
I read this headline as a publicity stunt by Coca Cola where they dropped some chemical from a blimp named Powerade onto a fire or something.

I may need lots more coffee.
 
2014-05-05 12:30:38 AM  

Farnn: Those who see reason instead of fear of anything that sounds like a chemical may get a kick out of this article.:

http://persephonemagazine.com/2014/04/i-will-not-follow-the-herd/#mo re -146524


That was brilliant!
 
2014-05-05 12:30:45 AM  

trappedspirit: Who gives a shiat. It's a chemical that's hard to pronounce. It's got to be dangerous. And it has other uses in processes I don't understand. That right there tells me we are all just guinnea pigs in big corpa-pharma-chema's pocket and maybe powerade wasn't a good decision on my part before I went into my daughter's recital gathering because I felt so much power the pants had to come off. I'm getting the lawsuit details together now.


That's it in a polymonosorbitated-azodiazinoled nutshell. OMG, it has a scary name! And it's used in non-food items OMFG! Deadly! Dangerous! Death!

Don't tell people they breathe a combination of N2 O2 Ar and CO2!! They'll never breathe again!
 
2014-05-05 12:37:45 AM  
The petition on Change.org noted that the ingredient is linked to a flame retardant and is not approved for use in Japan or the European Union.

Yeah, sorry, "not approved in the European Union" stopped having any meaning whatsoever when they made actual laws based on the assumption that cell phones cause cancer.  It's pretty much the '00s version of "known to the state of California to cause cancer", it says absolutely zilch about whether something is healthy or not.

That said, BVOs do have some health effects just from basically being vegetable oil, e.g. they're essentially fat, if I recall.  Not really present in sufficient quantities to have any metabolic effect (the hard limit is 15 ppm and it's an emulsifier so it's generally used at a much lower concentration than that), but in theory it's chemically feasible that it could maybe have some sort of biological effect if you took enough of it.  The poison's in the dose, this has been known literally since before chemistry was even a thing.

Basically it's not necessarily biologically inert entirely, but if you think the quantity in your soda is poisoning you then you're a grade A moron.  Not only are the studies claiming it's dangerous case studies (i.e. completely laughable to begin with), the primary one is some farking moron consuming nothing but 4 liters of soda a day and then suffering the typical effects of malnutrition and vitamin deficiency.  If you don't understand why concluding that BVOs specifically are dangerous from that is dumb then you're far to stupid to be allowed an opinion on  anything, much less food safety.

// I love that they're taking the fact that the companies are responding to the irrational scare campaign that  they themselves started by shrugging and switching to a different emulsifier (it not being that big a deal) as vindication that they were right and the substance is dangerous.  It's not, and it doesn't mean that.  It just means that it's easier to switch to a slightly more expensive chemical than deal with your irrational caterwauling.

// The EU has banned/left unapproved a whole lot of harmless things, I just used the cell phone example and their weird-ass regulation of handset power because it's one of the earlier examples.
 
2014-05-05 12:43:26 AM  
Maybe now they'll have enough to start putting it in milk

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/no, I don't know why it's a mirror image.
 
2014-05-05 01:13:59 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Wait until the sudden spike in spontaneous human combustion hits

/you won't be laughing then


The hell I won't.
 
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