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(Chicago Trib)   It was a quiet weekend in Chicago, with only eighteen people getting shot this weekend. We call that progress   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 106
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2014-05-04 10:15:08 AM  
We've got half a day of good murdering light left.  We'll reach quota!
 
2014-05-04 10:41:08 AM  
If chicago had more guns there would be no crime.  Suck it libulardos
 
2014-05-04 10:56:37 AM  
I'm also sure that the people 'responsible' for those 18 shootings are fine, upstanding citizens with no drug/gang activity and have taken the required steps to properly obtain at least their FOID
 
2014-05-04 11:34:27 AM  
Day not over yet.
 
2014-05-04 11:40:18 AM  

Sniffers Row: I'm also sure that the people 'responsible' for those 18 shootings are fine, upstanding citizens with no drug/gang activity and have taken the required steps to properly obtain at least their FOID


Most of them could use some target practice, too. 19 in about 22 hours, and only 2 kill shots. Thugs I am disappoint.
 
2014-05-04 12:37:22 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: If chicago had more guns there would be no crime.  Suck it libulardos


I'd say they have just the right amount.
 
2014-05-04 01:04:04 PM  
I'm convinced that the entire city has decided collectively and unwittingly to live up to its image in "Shameless."
 
2014-05-04 01:29:16 PM  
oh boy - this thread again

quick look - gang related - aka drugs
YAWN
business as usual and no one of value was shot
WHY does anyone care about shootings in chicago?
 
2014-05-04 02:05:53 PM  
Came here for namatad's yawn.  Leaving pretty excited about it being in all caps.
 
2014-05-04 02:07:00 PM  
Chicago should ban guns!
 
2014-05-04 02:11:21 PM  
Some people call them "gangs." I like to think of them as well-regulated militias.
 
gja
2014-05-04 02:11:27 PM  
WTF goes on in Chi-town?
 
2014-05-04 02:12:40 PM  

Sniffers Row: I'm also sure that the people 'responsible' for those 18 shootings are fine, upstanding citizens with no drug/gang activity and have taken the required steps to properly obtain at least their FOID


Is that another euphemism for "attractive & successful" around here?
 
2014-05-04 02:14:41 PM  
Golly, Ned.  They sure have some tough things to put up with up in that Chicago, jees o[' man.
 
2014-05-04 02:21:00 PM  
Did any one of value die, or just thugs?
 
2014-05-04 02:21:28 PM  

namatad: oh boy - this thread again

quick look - gang related - aka drugs
YAWN
business as usual and no one of value was shot
WHY does anyone care about shootings in chicago?


It serves a double purpose. Liberals can use Chicago as an example of why guns in the hands of civilians = chaos and death. Conservatives and right-leaning Libertarians can use Chicago as an example of why guns *in the wrong hands* (read: thugs/gangbangers/insert whatever racist name here) instead of law-abiding citizens is the cause of chaos and death. Both sides are technically correct, which is of course the best of kind correct.
 
2014-05-04 02:23:02 PM  

namatad: oh boy - this thread again

quick look - gang related - aka drugs
YAWN
business as usual and no one of value was shot
WHY does anyone care about shootings in chicago?


People should care, because it's an excellent example of what happens when RICO cases create power vacuums.
 
2014-05-04 02:26:02 PM  
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"you said weekend twice."
 
2014-05-04 02:28:44 PM  

Sniffers Row: I'm also sure that the people 'responsible' for those 18 shootings are fine, upstanding citizens with no drug/gang activity and have taken the required steps to properly obtain at least their FOID


Yeah, close local schools and stick them in overcrowded, underperforming consolidated schools; give them few economic opportunities outside of the blackmarket when/if they graduate with a crappy education; then wash your hands of it when violence erupts because they don't have access to normal legal channels to settle business disputes.
 
2014-05-04 02:28:48 PM  

gja: WTF goes on in Chi-town?


18 people brought guns to a knife fight.  It's the Chicago way!
 
2014-05-04 02:34:40 PM  

FDR Jones: Some people call them "gangs." I like to think of them as well-regulated militias.


That's a really dumb comment and not even remotely similar.
 
2014-05-04 02:34:43 PM  
maybe if they had real pizza they wouldn't be all murdery all the time
 
2014-05-04 02:38:29 PM  

Prey4reign: gja: WTF goes on in Chi-town?

18 people brought guns to a knife fight.  It's the Chicago way!


very much true.  It's a god damned jungle.  If you really don't get it, spend two hours or so watching world star hip hop.  You'll start to understand the culture.  You wont like it, but you'll understand.
 
2014-05-04 02:41:11 PM  
Hmm, southside, westside and within a couple blocks of a CHA complex, I AM SHOCKED THAT THIS IS HAPPENING.
/wait 'till it gets warm
 
2014-05-04 02:46:43 PM  
 Crime.  Is.  Not.  Culture.  And I don't care how many many people worship it by talking really fast over samples of other people's music or how many bandannas and hoodies are sold or how many tattoo parlors are making phat bank, It's not culture.  It's crime.  As far as a war on gang violence, I've seen war movies.  There wasn't a lot of hand wringing over who needed to be shot.
 
2014-05-04 03:01:51 PM  
Douchetastic thread. Really.
 
KIA
2014-05-04 03:04:55 PM  
Liar.  There aren't any guns in Chicago.  They're all illegal.
 
2014-05-04 03:06:52 PM  
sno man:

Most of them could use some target practice, too. 19 in about 22 hours, and only 2 kill shots. Thugs I am disappoint.

In IL can you join a gun range without having to prove you own your gun legally? You can in KY: you have to swear you're legally allowed to own one but they don't make you prove it. You only have to prove you're 18 with a valid drivers' license or state ID, or have a parent there supervising you. And the one in Lexington only charges $20/month on weekdays.

Won't somebody think of the bystanders? Seriously. In a lot of these cases the intended victim, like the shooter, is somebody few people will miss; what pisses people off is the 4 year old girl who gets hit by a stray bullet. The gang-bangers should be able to kill each other off all they want.

As for gun control, I'll wager that few of the shooters in Chicago are legally allowed to have a handgun and/or that their guns were not purchased legally. See? The law works!
 
KIA
2014-05-04 03:07:03 PM  

TerminalEchoes: thugs/gangbangers/insert whatever racist name here


Is using "thugs/ gangbangers" automatically racist?  When did that happen?
 
2014-05-04 03:08:02 PM  

Whatchoo Talkinbout: Douchetastic thread. Really.


Why's that, then, Sonny Jim?
 
2014-05-04 03:11:44 PM  

KIA: TerminalEchoes: thugs/gangbangers/insert whatever racist name here

Is using "thugs/ gangbangers" automatically racist?  When did that happen?


It seems that the preponderance urban street gangs populated by people of color.  Probably because most of the white folk are too busy working 40 hours a week to get a tattoo and a bandanna.  I'm sure, given the time off, they could balance out this inequality in a matter of days.
 
2014-05-04 03:12:49 PM  
See?

Let law abiding citizens carry firearms and the violent crime rate falls.
 
2014-05-04 03:14:25 PM  

AngryDragon: See?

Let law abiding citizens carry firearms and the violent crime rate falls.


static.comicvine.com
 
2014-05-04 03:14:59 PM  

KIA: Liar.  There aren't any guns in Chicago.  They're all illegal.


Handguns have been legal in Chicago for years.

That hasn't stopped dimwitted people from raging about the ban, though.
 
2014-05-04 03:17:39 PM  
When is Fark going to create the Illinois tag?
 
2014-05-04 03:19:23 PM  

happydude45: When is Fark going to create the Illinois tag?


There was one but it got jacked and sold for scrap after it spent a few weeks on a drug house bathroom wall.
 
2014-05-04 03:22:18 PM  

namatad: business as usual and no one of value was shot


Some people think all human lives are valuable
 
2014-05-04 03:22:38 PM  
Any info on if any of the guns were legally owned?
 
2014-05-04 03:23:23 PM  

tuffsnake: namatad: business as usual and no one of value was shot

Some people think all human lives are valuable


And those people apparently aren't involved in violent drug gangs.
 
2014-05-04 03:24:06 PM  
thedrhiphop.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-05-04 03:47:02 PM  

The One True TheDavid: sno man:

Most of them could use some target practice, too. 19 in about 22 hours, and only 2 kill shots. Thugs I am disappoint.

In IL can you join a gun range without having to prove you own your gun legally? You can in KY: you have to swear you're legally allowed to own one but they don't make you prove it. You only have to prove you're 18 with a valid drivers' license or state ID, or have a parent there supervising you. And the one in Lexington only charges $20/month on weekdays.

Won't somebody think of the bystanders? Seriously. In a lot of these cases the intended victim, like the shooter, is somebody few people will miss; what pisses people off is the 4 year old girl who gets hit by a stray bullet. The gang-bangers should be able to kill each other off all they want.

As for gun control, I'll wager that few of the shooters in Chicago are legally allowed to have a handgun and/or that their guns were not purchased legally. See? The law works!


You need a FOID to shoot at a range in IL, your gun or their gun.
 
2014-05-04 04:22:58 PM  

staplermofo: Came here for namatad's yawn.  Leaving pretty excited about it being in all caps.


great - does this mean that need to buy you a beer at the next chicago fark party? dammit
 
2014-05-04 04:27:51 PM  

tuffsnake: namatad: business as usual and no one of value was shot

Some people think all human lives are valuable


Strange, that seems to be belied by all of human history.
 
2014-05-04 04:30:26 PM  

redmid17: The One True TheDavid: sno man:

Most of them could use some target practice, too. 19 in about 22 hours, and only 2 kill shots. Thugs I am disappoint.

In IL can you join a gun range without having to prove you own your gun legally? You can in KY: you have to swear you're legally allowed to own one but they don't make you prove it. You only have to prove you're 18 with a valid drivers' license or state ID, or have a parent there supervising you. And the one in Lexington only charges $20/month on weekdays.

Won't somebody think of the bystanders? Seriously. In a lot of these cases the intended victim, like the shooter, is somebody few people will miss; what pisses people off is the 4 year old girl who gets hit by a stray bullet. The gang-bangers should be able to kill each other off all they want.

As for gun control, I'll wager that few of the shooters in Chicago are legally allowed to have a handgun and/or that their guns were not purchased legally. See? The law works!

You need a FOID to shoot at a range in IL, your gun or their gun.


Now that I have my FOID, I need 16 hours of training. sigh. stupid school.
 
2014-05-04 04:38:20 PM  

redmid17: ou need a FOID to shoot at a range in IL, your gun or their gun.


A FOID? I had to look that up. Of course it's short for something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOID_(firearms)  Firearm Owners Identification.

IL is doing it wrong then.

Why are so many people gettig shot if gun/ammo control works so well?
 
2014-05-04 04:40:14 PM  
FOUR DEAD IN CHI-CA-GO! FOUR DEAD IN CHI-CA-GO!
 
2014-05-04 04:41:50 PM  

The One True TheDavid: redmid17: ou need a FOID to shoot at a range in IL, your gun or their gun.

A FOID? I had to look that up. Of course it's short for something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOID_(firearms)  Firearm Owners Identification.

IL is doing it wrong then.

Why are so many people gettig shot if gun/ammo control works so well?



LOL
Chicago and Illinois would be proof that gun control does not have the desired effect.
Unless guns are banned in the whole country.

Strange how banning guns from a whole country reduces gun crime.
 
2014-05-04 04:48:51 PM  

The One True TheDavid: redmid17: ou need a FOID to shoot at a range in IL, your gun or their gun.

A FOID? I had to look that up. Of course it's short for something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOID_(firearms)  Firearm Owners Identification.

IL is doing it wrong then.

Why are so many people gettig shot if gun/ammo control works so well?


Straw purchases and gang fragmentation.
 
2014-05-04 05:00:35 PM  
Chicago's contribution to lowering the world's population.
 
2014-05-04 05:09:25 PM  

namatad: Strange how banning guns from a whole country reduces gun crime.


i3.kym-cdn.com
 
2014-05-04 05:10:40 PM  
But hey, they got Sterling on tape and booted him out.

That's what is really important.

Anyone ever ask MJ's or Magic's opinion on all the violence?
 
2014-05-04 05:24:37 PM  

sugar_fetus: namatad: Strange how banning guns from a whole country reduces gun crime.

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The Germans hardly had ANY problems with the joos
 
2014-05-04 05:28:29 PM  
I'm sure glad Chicago has such tough gun laws. It really seems to be helping!
 
2014-05-04 05:55:13 PM  
"It's interesting when people die."
 
2014-05-04 05:59:20 PM  

Yogimus: sugar_fetus: namatad: Strange how banning guns from a whole country reduces gun crime.

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The Germans hardly had ANY problems with the joos


Yeah, you never have any violence when the people you're trying to get rid of can't shoot back.
 
2014-05-04 05:59:59 PM  

namatad: tuffsnake: namatad: business as usual and no one of value was shot

Some people think all human lives are valuable

Strange, that seems to be belied by all of human history.


Not really, I think a more correct statement would be throughout all of human history there have been some people that don't feel all life is valuable
 
2014-05-04 06:05:48 PM  

TerminalEchoes: namatad: oh boy - this thread again

quick look - gang related - aka drugs
YAWN
business as usual and no one of value was shot
WHY does anyone care about shootings in chicago?

It serves a double purpose. Liberals can use Chicago as an example of why guns in the hands of civilians = chaos and death. Conservatives and right-leaning Libertarians can use Chicago as an example of why guns *in the wrong hands* (read: thugs/gangbangers/insert whatever racist name here) instead of law-abiding citizens is the cause of chaos and death. Both sides are technically correct, which is of course the best of kind correct.


I didn't know that the terms "thug" and "gangbanger" were racially specific.
 
2014-05-04 06:11:44 PM  

tuffsnake: namatad: business as usual and no one of value was shot

Some people think all human lives are valuable


The ones shooting, robbing and selling drugs obviously don't.
 
2014-05-04 06:19:21 PM  

Spare Me: FDR Jones: Some people call them "gangs." I like to think of them as well-regulated militias.

That's a really dumb comment and not even remotely similar.


Well, it's a militia. It's just not well regulated. It's a libertarian wet dream.
 
2014-05-04 06:36:58 PM  

namatad: WHY does anyone care about shootings in chicago?


I usually complain the other way around - 20ish people get shot in a school by one person and the nation's legislators swing into a frenzy and the media covers the event for a month or two.  20ish people get shot in Chicagoland by 20 different people, and nobody bats an eye.  I can't say I'm glad 20ish people got shot this weekend, but I'm glad that 20 people being killed isn't deemed about as interesting as a cloud over Seattle.
 
2014-05-04 06:54:28 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Sniffers Row: I'm also sure that the people 'responsible' for those 18 shootings are fine, upstanding citizens with no drug/gang activity and have taken the required steps to properly obtain at least their FOID

Yeah, close local schools and stick them in overcrowded, underperforming consolidated schools; give them few economic opportunities outside of the blackmarket when/if they graduate with a crappy education; then wash your hands of it when violence erupts because they don't have access to normal legal channels to settle business disputes.


This a serious post? Poor people kill because of inability to solve business disputes?

Fark is funny.
 
2014-05-04 07:02:52 PM  
 
2014-05-04 07:20:36 PM  

tuffsnake: I think a more correct statement would be throughout all of human history there have been some people that don't feel all life is valuable


You'e right. And so are they.


lycanth: I didn't know that the terms "thug" and "gangbanger" were racially specific.


They're not. I grew up with white thugs & hoodlums; organized gangs weren't so big a thing in the '70s so "gang-bang" still referred to one wife for seven brothers. As for a white hoodlum gang, allow me to present The Hammerskin Nation (<-link, nsfw or weak stomachs).

Thunderpipes: Poor people kill because of inability to solve business disputes?


Not only them. What do you think the Opium Wars were about?

Mrtraveler01: Posers!

This is a weekend in St. Louis.

http://www.kmov.com/news/crime/Police-search-for-suspects-after-shot s- fired-on-Washington-Ave--257848251.html


"Authorities say the Impala drove off and the guys on motorcycles went after them and were later joined by more bikers."

Sounds like a dog wanting to play Chase.


http://www.kmov.com/news/crime/1-injured-following-late-night-shooti ng -in-north-St-Louis-257848231.html

"According to police, one man and three females were walking up the front steps of a home in the 5800 block of Lotus when they heard gunshots from behind."

Three females?  Learn to share, buddy!


http://www.kmov.com/news/mobile/Off-duty-St-Louis-police-officer-sta bb ed-while-trying-to-stop-fight-257813591.html

All of this in an area a quarter the size of Chicago.


Oh well. One of out three ain't bad, for St. Louis.
 
2014-05-04 07:56:17 PM  

sugar_fetus: namatad: Strange how banning guns from a whole country reduces gun crime.

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I'd put up Australia as a pretty good, and recent, case study.  FWIW
 
2014-05-04 07:57:49 PM  
http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chicago/shootings
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-2-wounded-in-s ou th-shore-shooting-20140504,0,4643671.story
Twenty-seven shot, Four dead.
May 4: Male, 25, in Humboldt Park
May 4: Male, Age unknown, in Washington Heights
May 4: Male, 18, in South Shore
May 4: Male, 28, in South Shore
May 4: Male, 29, in Chatham
May 4: Male, 23, in Austin
May 4: Male, 19, in Near North Side
May 4: Male, 20, in Near North Side
May 4: Male, 21, in Near North Side
May 4: Male, 20, in Near North Side
May 4: Unknown gender, Age unknown,
May 3: Male, 17, in Burnside
May 3: Male, 17, in South Chicago
May 3: Male, 17, in South Chicago
May 3: Male, 21, in South Chicago
May 3: Male, 17, in New City
May 3: Male, 23, in South Chicago
May 3: Male, 38, in Englewood
May 3: Male, 20, in Ashburn
May 3: Male, 15, in South Lawndale
May 3: Male, 22, in Auburn Gresham
May 3: Male, 25, in Auburn Gresham
May 3: Male, 20, in West Englewood
May 3: Unknown gender, 21, in Austin
May 3: Male, 33, in Austin
May 3: Male, 42, in Greater Grand Crossing
May 3: Male, 20, in Rogers Park
 
2014-05-04 08:00:01 PM  

TerminalEchoes: It serves a double purpose. Liberals can use Chicago as an example of why guns in the hands of civilians = chaos and death. Conservatives and right-leaning Libertarians can use Chicago as an example of why guns *in the wrong hands* (read: thugs/gangbangers/insert whatever racist name here) instead of law-abiding citizens is the cause of chaos and death. Both sides are technically correct, which is of course the best of kind correct.


Until the 1920's, gun control laws were used almost exclusively to keep guns out of the hands of minorities.  Federal gun laws didn't come on the books until the gangster wars in the early 1900's.  Neither did a very good job of keeping guns from reaching the criminal element because criminals are criminals.

For some minority residents of Detroit, owning a gun is their sense of taking power back from the criminal element, as well as an expression of a constitutional right that was denied them for years.  Ideally, we could just outlaw guns, but ha ha - that's never going to happen.
 
2014-05-04 08:05:18 PM  

namatad: WHY does anyone care about shootings in chicago?


Who cares if the murder rate is actually higher in St. Louis!  Gotta stick it to the libs!
 
2014-05-04 08:06:40 PM  

slyde3: But hey, they got Sterling on tape and booted him out.

That's what is really important.

Anyone ever ask MJ's or Magic's opinion on all the violence?


I'm going to go out an a limb here, but I'm pretty sure that those guys would be against violence, even though they may have similar amounts of melanin to the people committing the violence.
 
2014-05-04 08:08:08 PM  

fireclown: sugar_fetus: namatad: Strange how banning guns from a whole country reduces gun crime.

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I'd put up Australia as a pretty good, and recent, case study.  FWIW


You mean the country that had a very low murder rate which then, after confiscating most all firearms, continued to have a very low murder rate?

That Australia?
 
2014-05-04 08:11:14 PM  

slyde3: Anyone ever ask MJ's or Magic's opinion on all the violence?


P.S. MJ's dad was murdered as he slept at a rest stop for his car.  His body was later found in a swamp.  Stay classy!
 
2014-05-04 08:18:10 PM  

SmithHiller: http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chicago/shootings
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-2-wounded-in-s ou th-shore-shooting-20140504,0,4643671.story
Twenty-seven shot, Four dead.
May 4: Male, 25, in Humboldt Park
May 4: Male, Age unknown, in Washington Heights
May 4: Male, 18, in South Shore
May 4: Male, 28, in South Shore
May 4: Male, 29, in Chatham
May 4: Male, 23, in Austin
May 4: Male, 19, in Near North Side
May 4: Male, 20, in Near North Side
May 4: Male, 21, in Near North Side
May 4: Male, 20, in Near North Side
May 4: Unknown gender, Age unknown,
May 3: Male, 17, in Burnside
May 3: Male, 17, in South Chicago
May 3: Male, 17, in South Chicago
May 3: Male, 21, in South Chicago
May 3: Male, 17, in New City
May 3: Male, 23, in South Chicago
May 3: Male, 38, in Englewood
May 3: Male, 20, in Ashburn
May 3: Male, 15, in South Lawndale
May 3: Male, 22, in Auburn Gresham
May 3: Male, 25, in Auburn Gresham
May 3: Male, 20, in West Englewood
May 3: Unknown gender, 21, in Austin
May 3: Male, 33, in Austin
May 3: Male, 42, in Greater Grand Crossing
May 3: Male, 20, in Rogers Park


Yes! I l knew my city wouldn't let me down.
 
2014-05-04 08:45:15 PM  
Are the dishonest & dumb people still trying to say Chicago has an unusual crime problem?

/ Yes
// Yes, they are
 
2014-05-04 08:50:12 PM  

jaytkay: Are the dishonest & dumb people still trying to say Chicago has an unusual crime problem?

/ Yes
// Yes, they are


Do you think there isn't a problem?
 
2014-05-04 08:53:57 PM  

Yogimus: The Germans hardly had ANY problems with the joos


jayphat: Yeah, you never have any violence when the people you're trying to get rid of can't shoot back.


You guys do know that guns were legal Nazi Germany, right?  Hitler actually further loosened gun restrictions for everyone but the Jews in 1938, after Kristallnacht.
 
2014-05-04 08:54:38 PM  

bunner: KIA: TerminalEchoes: thugs/gangbangers/insert whatever racist name here

Is using "thugs/ gangbangers" automatically racist?  When did that happen?

It seems that the preponderance urban street gangs populated by people of color.   Probably because most of the white folk are too busy working 40 hours a week to get a tattoo and a bandanna.  I'm sure, given the time off, they could balance out this inequality in a matter of days.


bunner: Crime.  Is.  Not.  Culture.  And I don't care how many many people worship it by talking really fast over samples of other people's music or how many bandannas and hoodies are sold or how many tattoo parlors are making phat bank, It's not culture.  It's crime.  As far as a war on gang violence, I've seen war movies.  There wasn't a lot of hand wringing over who needed to be shot.


Yeah.  You're reaching "wow" levels of racist.  Might wanna be careful about that.
 
2014-05-04 08:56:46 PM  

redmid17: jaytkay: Are the dishonest & dumb people still trying to say Chicago has an unusual crime problem?

/ Yes
// Yes, they are

Do you think there isn't a problem?


So you're saying Chicago has an unusual crime problem for an American city?
 
2014-05-04 08:57:40 PM  

jaytkay: redmid17: jaytkay: Are the dishonest & dumb people still trying to say Chicago has an unusual crime problem?

/ Yes
// Yes, they are

Do you think there isn't a problem?

So you're saying Chicago has an unusual crime problem for an American city?


No. I'm not saying anything. I'm asking you a question.
 
2014-05-04 09:03:19 PM  

Dafatone: Yeah.  You're reaching "wow" levels of racist.


Ha ha.  Not really.  But it's nice to have people adamantly inform you that if you notice how things work, you're probably in the KKK.
 
2014-05-04 09:03:28 PM  

redmid17: jaytkay: redmid17: jaytkay: Are the dishonest & dumb people still trying to say Chicago has an unusual crime problem?

/ Yes
// Yes, they are

Do you think there isn't a problem?

So you're saying Chicago has an unusual crime problem for an American city?

No. I'm not saying anything. I'm asking you a question.


Somewhere in there, there is a problem.  Toronto is about the same size. 1/3 of the year in... 15 murders.
What's different?  The answer may be in there somewhere.
 
2014-05-04 09:04:39 PM  
"There has been a lot of muuuurder and a lot of intrigue."
 
2014-05-04 09:08:52 PM  

Dafatone: bunner: KIA: TerminalEchoes: thugs/gangbangers/insert whatever racist name here

Is using "thugs/ gangbangers" automatically racist?  When did that happen?

It seems that the preponderance urban street gangs populated by people of color.   Probably because most of the white folk are too busy working 40 hours a week to get a tattoo and a bandanna.  I'm sure, given the time off, they could balance out this inequality in a matter of days.

bunner: Crime.  Is.  Not.  Culture.  And I don't care how many many people worship it by talking really fast over samples of other people's music or how many bandannas and hoodies are sold or how many tattoo parlors are making phat bank, It's not culture.  It's crime.  As far as a war on gang violence, I've seen war movies.  There wasn't a lot of hand wringing over who needed to be shot.

Yeah.  You're reaching "wow" levels of racist.  Might wanna be careful about that.


So, essentially, there are loads of violent druge gangs chocked full of white people in Lynrd Skynrd T-Shirts, roaming the streets of Chicago with their "Hillbilly 4 Life" tats shooting at each other over meth turf?  I gotta find some better newspapers.  Don't attribute self identified cultural subgroups or their most salient characteristics to me.  I'm just watching from the tall tree and noting who's shooting at whom.
 
2014-05-04 09:08:57 PM  

jaytkay: Are the dishonest & dumb people still trying to say Chicago has an unusual crime problem?

/ Yes
// Yes, they are


Are the dishonest and dumb people ignoring factual reality? Yes, yes they are.
 
2014-05-04 09:14:32 PM  

redmid17: jaytkay: redmid17: jaytkay: Are the dishonest & dumb people still trying to say Chicago has an unusual crime problem?

/ Yes
// Yes, they are

Do you think there isn't a problem?

So you're saying Chicago has an unusual crime problem for an American city?

No. I'm not saying anything. I'm asking you a question.


"I'm just asking questions!"
 
2014-05-04 09:16:36 PM  

bunner: So, essentially, there are loads of violent druge gangs chocked full of white people in Lynrd Skynrd T-Shirts, roaming the streets of Chicago with their "Hillbilly 4 Life" tats shooting at each other over meth turf? I gotta find some better newspapers. Don't attribute self identified cultural subgroups or their most salient characteristics to me. I'm just watching from the tall tree and noting who's shooting at whom.


Yeah, how crazy would it be if a bunch of white people roamed the streets with Confederate flag t-shirts and tattoos with approximately 14 words on them while committing violent crimes like shooting each other over meth turf?  That's only something thugs with bananas, I mean bandanas, do.
 
2014-05-04 09:22:28 PM  

cousin-merle: bunner: So, essentially, there are loads of violent druge gangs chocked full of white people in Lynrd Skynrd T-Shirts, roaming the streets of Chicago with their "Hillbilly 4 Life" tats shooting at each other over meth turf? I gotta find some better newspapers. Don't attribute self identified cultural subgroups or their most salient characteristics to me. I'm just watching from the tall tree and noting who's shooting at whom.

Yeah, how crazy would it be if a bunch of white people roamed the streets with Confederate flag t-shirts and tattoos with approximately 14 words on them while committing violent crimes like shooting each other over meth turf?  That's only something thugs with bananas, I mean bandanas, do.


You know what?  I got no idea, really.  I'm just going with the statistics at hand.  There's lots of white thugs around but, AFAICT, most of them have high paying corporate jobs or badges and they manage to steal with laptops and briefcases.  Oh, wait.  Sh*t.  That's racist!  *snort*  All this dime store, piss pluperfect, "ah went ta COLLEGE!" race baiting bullsh*t is just people demanding the same crutch and horse blinkers as everybody else gets.  And they can have them.
 
2014-05-04 09:34:47 PM  
Black on black= not news. plus off they keep getting abortions eventually it will solve it self.
 
2014-05-04 09:37:21 PM  

bunner: There's lots of white thugs around but, AFAICT, most of them have high paying corporate jobs or badges and they manage to steal with laptops and briefcases.


What a Chicago thug might look light.

images.sodahead.com
 
2014-05-04 09:42:00 PM  

cousin-merle: bunner: There's lots of white thugs around but, AFAICT, most of them have high paying corporate jobs or badges and they manage to steal with laptops and briefcases.

What a Chicago thug might look light.

[images.sodahead.com image 318x448]


Nah.  Not really.  He's just one more coporate sock puppet who was adequately vetted and would divert loads of attention away from shenanigans.  Who is president is largely inconsequential, actually.
 
2014-05-04 09:45:04 PM  

cousin-merle: What a Chicago thug might look light.

images.sodahead.com


Coming soon in an email to you from your old FOX-viewing relatives.
 
2014-05-04 09:53:33 PM  
I've been thinking about getting my Illinois concealed carry permit so I can go full James Bond and carry a PPK
 
2014-05-04 09:57:25 PM  

Spare Me: FDR Jones: Some people call them "gangs." I like to think of them as well-regulated militias.

That's a really dumb comment and not even remotely similar.


You're not much for jokes, eh?
 
2014-05-04 10:16:20 PM  
They're gearing up for Mother's day.  When some mothers keep their promise to take their grown idiots out of life again.
 
2014-05-04 10:28:49 PM  

jaytkay: redmid17: jaytkay: redmid17: jaytkay: Are the dishonest & dumb people still trying to say Chicago has an unusual crime problem?

/ Yes
// Yes, they are

Do you think there isn't a problem?

So you're saying Chicago has an unusual crime problem for an American city?

No. I'm not saying anything. I'm asking you a question.

"I'm just asking questions!"


Reply fail? Wanna try that one again tiger?
 
2014-05-04 10:31:26 PM  
History is largely the story of people who look, speak, eat and worship the same gathering together, drawing imaginary lines on the earth and trading stuff whith each other when they're not enslaving one the other, or blowing each other to kingdon come.  If anybody thinks that changed because of "the great melting pot experiment", which failed in amazing fashion, btw, then they are delusional.  Maybe nothing needs fixed but the idiotic notion that you can stitch together thousands of disparate, fragmented cultural, ethnic and other splintered subgroups - made up of nothing more than personal proclivities or some sense of being "special - and come out with a whole cloth nation.  Espcially when it's having it's economical tug pulled out from under its feet, wholesale.  Maybe the cost / benefits analysis is sh*t, so far, for all concerned.  What was the definition of insanity, again?  That's not racistm.  That's cracking a book.
 
2014-05-04 10:41:42 PM  
economic rug
 
2014-05-04 10:51:06 PM  

redmid17: wanna try that one again tiger?


No, child. Feel free to wank away in this thread, as long as you understand nobody is paying attention.
 
2014-05-04 10:56:22 PM  

jaytkay: redmid17: wanna try that one again tiger?

No, child. Feel free to wank away in this thread, as long as you understand nobody is paying attention.


I was just wondering, since you already answered me once. Coming back, cutting the reply post short (removing the context), and attacking me seemed like a mistake. I guess I had unfairly judged you as someone rational.

/chicago does have a problem, not necessarily atypical levels though
 
2014-05-04 11:11:28 PM  
I don't want to piss on anybody's parade, but jaytkay is a ridiculously obvious troll and never contributes anything but snotty remarks.  themoreyouknow.jpg
 
2014-05-04 11:14:39 PM  

bunner: Maybe nothing needs fixed but the idiotic notion that you can stitch together thousands of disparate, fragmented cultural, ethnic and other splintered subgroups - made up of nothing more than personal proclivities or some sense of being "special - and come out with a whole cloth nation.


The Roman Empire had a pretty good run,,,,
 
2014-05-04 11:21:03 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: bunner: Maybe nothing needs fixed but the idiotic notion that you can stitch together thousands of disparate, fragmented cultural, ethnic and other splintered subgroups - made up of nothing more than personal proclivities or some sense of being "special - and come out with a whole cloth nation.

The Roman Empire had a pretty good run,,,,


So did we until until the post WWII boom crawled up some bankers asses.  And, on the whole of it, Rome was more "You're Roman, now, this is the church, this is the army.  Shut up or we'll burn your country down" than "carrot on a stick".  We promised opportunity.  So far, that opportu8nity is largely one to make rich people richer.  Cept for that aforementioned post war, working and middle class prosperity bubble.  The one everybody keeps tapping their watches about and staring down the tracks, waiting for it to return.  Besides, that was an empire.  You didn't actually have most of those filthy unwashed foreigners wandering around Rome.  You just went to where they were and conquered them.
 
2014-05-04 11:25:07 PM  
Dear America.

Your country, I.E. it's wealth generation infrastructure, is being dismantled and moved to where the ROI is better.

It is your patriotic duty to stare at your feet, piss blame like a firehose and shout at each other so that you don't pay attention to this process.

And so far, you f*cking own it.  I mean, seriously.  Good job.  Wild dogs couldn't have done better if you threw them a steak.
 
2014-05-05 12:10:01 AM  

sugar_fetus: namatad: Strange how banning guns from a whole country reduces gun crime.

[i3.kym-cdn.com image 200x200]


australia ...
they had a school shooting, they banned guns in the whole country, shootings fell dramatically
qed
 
2014-05-05 12:23:11 AM  

Spare Me: FDR Jones: Some people call them "gangs." I like to think of them as well-regulated militias.

That's a really dumb comment and not even remotely similar.


I thought it was hilarious and I'm 100% pro-gun.

Not being able to laugh at a joke is a sign of extremism.
 
2014-05-05 12:39:36 AM  

cousin-merle: Yogimus: The Germans hardly had ANY problems with the joos

jayphat: Yeah, you never have any violence when the people you're trying to get rid of can't shoot back.

You guys do know that guns were legal Nazi Germany, right?  Hitler actually further loosened gun restrictions for everyone but the Jews in 1938, after Kristallnacht.


Exactly my point.
 
2014-05-05 11:56:32 AM  

The One True TheDavid: sno man:

Most of them could use some target practice, too. 19 in about 22 hours, and only 2 kill shots. Thugs I am disappoint.

In IL can you join a gun range without having to prove you own your gun legally? You can in KY: you have to swear you're legally allowed to own one but they don't make you prove it. You only have to prove you're 18 with a valid drivers' license or state ID, or have a parent there supervising you. And the one in Lexington only charges $20/month on weekdays.

Won't somebody think of the bystanders? Seriously. In a lot of these cases the intended victim, like the shooter, is somebody few people will miss; what pisses people off is the 4 year old girl who gets hit by a stray bullet. The gang-bangers should be able to kill each other off all they want.

As for gun control, I'll wager that few of the shooters in Chicago are legally allowed to have a handgun and/or that their guns were not purchased legally. See? The law works!


You can't even hold one in a gunshop unless you have your FOID card.

See, Illinois doesn't register the gun - they register the gun owners.
 
2014-05-05 12:00:44 PM  

i.r.id10t: The One True TheDavid: sno man:

Most of them could use some target practice, too. 19 in about 22 hours, and only 2 kill shots. Thugs I am disappoint.

In IL can you join a gun range without having to prove you own your gun legally? You can in KY: you have to swear you're legally allowed to own one but they don't make you prove it. You only have to prove you're 18 with a valid drivers' license or state ID, or have a parent there supervising you. And the one in Lexington only charges $20/month on weekdays.

Won't somebody think of the bystanders? Seriously. In a lot of these cases the intended victim, like the shooter, is somebody few people will miss; what pisses people off is the 4 year old girl who gets hit by a stray bullet. The gang-bangers should be able to kill each other off all they want.

As for gun control, I'll wager that few of the shooters in Chicago are legally allowed to have a handgun and/or that their guns were not purchased legally. See? The law works!

You can't even hold one in a gunshop unless you have your FOID card.

See, Illinois doesn't register the gun - they register the gun owners.


Not strictly true. I found out that you can shoot at a range if the owner of the gun has a FOID but a friend does not. One of my friends took his younger brother, who is a resident of MA, shooting over the weekend. The brother had to shoot in the same lane and could only use the gun and the ammo they brought though.
 
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