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2014-05-04 03:20:18 PM  

rwdavis: Capitalism requires a market to have competition


Yes! that's a requirement.

rwdavis: None of the companies compete with each other in any real sense, yes Target and Walmart are both big box retailers but there's essentially zero chance that one will put the other out of business in 5 years. They essentially compete with each other at the scale of countries which is a pointless scale.


You make an important point, and I understand where you're coming from... But I've seen no evidence of it (yet). Target and Walmart are at each others throat. I don't think you could find a better comparison. Same w/McDonalds / subway / Taco Bell. We live in the golden age of the Breakfast Wars right now.

Small guys can compete and grow. There are many examples... Culvers, Sonic, etc. They're growing nicely. Some, not so much... I heard that Portillos is looking for a buyer. (These are regional fast food stores, except Sonic, which I think is about everywhere now.)

(BTW, Taco Bel, Pizza Hut, KFC are all owned by the same company, YUM)

What should frighten EVERYONE is that the big companies can buy political influence, and make competing harder for little companies. Some will point to Sarbox as an example of this.

rwdavis: You can also tell from their pay scales that they aren't capitalistic companies; they're corporatists through and through and that's a thoroughly anti-capitalistic philosophy.


These are retail stores employing (hopefully) unskilled labor; not Abbott Labs or Texas Instruments. So yeah, they don't employee lots of high wage earners. But they do employee people. I'll take what I can get.
 
2014-05-04 03:22:43 PM  
Until these stores top the list:  American Apparel;Heartbreaker;Hot Topic,we needn't nuke ourselves. Since it's just a list of companies that rely on a business model of high volumes of sales....yawn.
 
2014-05-04 03:23:05 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: JoieD'Zen: born_yesterday: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: It's not your imagination. Eating healthy is more expensive, study says.

You were saying?

The GF and I have been making a lot of effort to eat healthier, and I have to agree 100%.  Fruits and vegetables cost a ridiculous amount per pound when compared to fast food (hence my celery joke), and in addition require a significant amount of meal planning to keep costs reasonable.

Once it becomes routine it will be easier and you will feel better, and save money. Really.
Example
Roast chicken for dinner. Enjoy with your choice of sides.
Left over meat can be used to toss with pasta, spinach, garlic, cheese, etc for another meal or used to make sandwiches for lunch. Chicken carcass in crockpot with water, leftover veg, spices will make a great stock or a base for soup that can be frozen.
Simple really.

No, you won't.  Healthy foods are more expensive.  That's not opinion, it's fact.  For example, your roast chicken?  That'll run you around $7 for one, maybe two meals, depending on the grocery store and size of the chicken.  Meanwhile, a loaf of cheap white bread, a jar of store-brand peanut butter, and some  flavored sugar paste jelly gets me around 7 or 8 meals for about $6.

I just don't get why people stand there and deny observable reality when it comes to the cost of eating healthy.  Shiat like Kraft Mac & Cheese is $69 a box, while that's what a single farking apple will cost me.  I can frequently get 10 meals worth of ramen for what it would cost to get a single meal's worth of frozen or fresh vegetables.  When you're dealing with families that have less than $1.50 per person per meal to spend, it's not possible for them to eat healthy, but they sure as hell can load up on the crap.  Hell, for a $1.50 per meal, you can hit McDonalds 3 times a day and get 2,000 calories.  That's impossible to do with healthy food at $1.50 per meal.


You need to move.  Here in Florida I  can get

1. Bag of 12 apples or pears for 5 bucks.
2. Bag of 12 oranges for 3.
3. 3. lbs onions 1.50.
4. Bananas 33 cents a pound. Six Bananas for a buck.
5. 6 ears of fresh corn for 2
6. 1.99 for a 5lb bag of potatos
7. 20 lbs of rice for 5 dollars.
8. 18 large eggs for 1.88
9. Pinto Beans 32 oz 2.88
9. Lima Beans  32.0z 2.88
10. 1 lb of ground meat 3 a lb
11. 3lb bag of onions 1.99
12. Loaf of Bread 1.50
13.  2.lbs of spaghetti 2.50
12. Uncooked chicken 4.00

That is 40.11  cents worth of food.  Note that the rice, spaghetti, and onions can be used over a two week period.  If you can get three healthy meals a week out of that you are insane.

You can definitely eat well and cheap.
 
2014-05-04 03:24:14 PM  

lindalouwho: A decent hot lunch?

What, are you about 2'8 and 45lbs?



www.hwdyk.com
There are lots of reasons to eat: Hunger, Boredom,
Wanting to be the world's fattest man.
 
2014-05-04 03:27:53 PM  

jtown: JoieD'Zen: I manage to get through life without frequenting any of those places. Am I missing something?

Men in red woolen shirts getting incredible kicks from things you'll never know.


Are they behind narrow doors in bars?
 
2014-05-04 03:28:23 PM  

lindalouwho: Deedeemarz: Marshmallow Jones: Well considering there are far more of these McDonalds/BK etc restaurants than there are 'health food' restaurants, I dont know that any of this would be a surprise.

Having said that, Americans on the whole eat like slobs.

Note that the less money you make the more likely you are to eat at the fast food places: because restaurants that serve healthier fare also charge a higher price. And apparently people are too lazy to cook for themselves...

Then why are there McDonald's in many affluent areas if they're being supported mostly by poor people?

In downtown areas you see businessmen, gov'mnt buildings, lawyers having McDs in their weekly lunch rotation?

I'm just playing devil's advocate, but think that at this point it may have more to do with eating it a lot as a kid made a lot of people be loyal customers regardless of who you become and what your income is when your grown.

And I find the idea that monied people all/mostly eat healthy because they can afford it just a little silly. Life experience and the fact that monied people are not all walking around svelte and toned.

/just my opinion, man


If you go into Walmart and compare the patrons to those of a high end store like Publix or Whole foods, you will most definitely  see the difference in size of the patrons.
 
2014-05-04 03:32:57 PM  

Destructor: lindalouwho: A decent hot lunch?

What, are you about 2'8 and 45lbs?



There are lots of reasons to eat: Hunger, Boredom,
Wanting to be the world's fattest man.


I get that. Did you see my post after that copping to failing at reading comprehension? Somehow missed that you were losing weight. So I only answered to dollar meal being a decent meal.

*hangs head in shame*
 
2014-05-04 03:35:03 PM  
What?  No Saks Fifth Avenue, Prada or De Beers?  Then America has turned into a classless, cultureless toilet.
 
2014-05-04 03:35:49 PM  

theflatline: If you go into Walmart and compare the patrons to those of a high end store like Publix or Whole foods, you will most definitely see the difference in size of the patrons.


There's a store here in the Midwest called Meijer. This was me entering it for the first time:

cse1.net

It makes WalMart look like a street corner convenience store. You could fit about 2 WalMarts in it. They aren't as convenient, because there are fewer of them, but WOW. Competition is alive and well in general retail.
 
2014-05-04 03:37:04 PM  

lindalouwho: I get that. Did you see my post after that copping to failing at reading comprehension? Somehow missed that you were losing weight. So I only answered to dollar meal being a decent meal.

*hangs head in shame*


Any chance I get to post a Futurama reference is a win. :-)
 
2014-05-04 03:43:25 PM  

theflatline: lindalouwho: Deedeemarz: Marshmallow Jones: Well considering there are far more of these McDonalds/BK etc restaurants than there are 'health food' restaurants, I dont know that any of this would be a surprise.

Having said that, Americans on the whole eat like slobs.

Note that the less money you make the more likely you are to eat at the fast food places: because restaurants that serve healthier fare also charge a higher price. And apparently people are too lazy to cook for themselves...

Then why are there McDonald's in many affluent areas if they're being supported mostly by poor people?

In downtown areas you see businessmen, gov'mnt buildings, lawyers having McDs in their weekly lunch rotation?

I'm just playing devil's advocate, but think that at this point it may have more to do with eating it a lot as a kid made a lot of people be loyal customers regardless of who you become and what your income is when your grown.

And I find the idea that monied people all/mostly eat healthy because they can afford it just a little silly. Life experience and the fact that monied people are not all walking around svelte and toned.

/just my opinion, man

If you go into Walmart and compare the patrons to those of a high end store like Publix or Whole foods, you will most definitely  see the difference in size of the patrons.


Huh? I have friends and family who make over 125k and shpo at Walmart. People like bargains, income mostly not a factor.

People also get what they want and like from Whole Foods if they can afford it. Why would that exclude them from also getting things from Walmart? Rare to hear someone these days imply they are too good for Walmart. Only takes a cruise around the parking lots to see many cars that deffinitely weren't purchased by poor people.
 
2014-05-04 03:46:08 PM  

Destructor: lindalouwho: I get that. Did you see my post after that copping to failing at reading comprehension? Somehow missed that you were losing weight. So I only answered to dollar meal being a decent meal.

*hangs head in shame*

Any chance I get to post a Futurama reference is a win. :-)


Gee you're swell!

That won't ruin your reputation as Destructor, will it?
 
2014-05-04 03:47:37 PM  
Chains get more traffic because, gasp, they're  chains.  If there are a thousand Taco Bells and five "Some Other Taco Place"s, Taco Bell is going to beat out Some Other Taco Place.

Duh.

Really, duh.

This has nothing to do with OMG america is fat or OMG america is broke or whatever.

/granted, america IS fat and broke, and fast food has a lot to with that, but the causality can't go both ways.
 
2014-05-04 03:47:56 PM  

lindalouwho: Gee you're swell!
That won't ruin your reputation as Destructor, will it?


Unpossible!
 
2014-05-04 03:48:48 PM  

lindalouwho: Destructor: lindalouwho: I get that. Did you see my post after that copping to failing at reading comprehension? Somehow missed that you were losing weight. So I only answered to dollar meal being a decent meal.

*hangs head in shame*

Any chance I get to post a Futurama reference is a win. :-)

Gee you're swell!

That won't ruin your reputation as Destructor, will it?


lulling you into complacent friendliness is the Destructor con.  he's more than meets the eye.
 
2014-05-04 03:49:25 PM  

Dafatone: /granted, america IS fat and broke, and fast food has a lot to with that, but the causality can't go both ways.


Well, the fat part. It's shockingly easy to get fat on a tight budget. Guess how I know. :-)
 
2014-05-04 03:53:38 PM  

The Flexecutioner: lulling you into complacent friendliness is the Destructor con. he's more than meets the eye.


I simply deallocate used memory and return it to the heap. It's my day job. Sometimes, if it's managed business, call a Disposal function...
 
2014-05-04 03:55:56 PM  

theflatline: lindalouwho: Deedeemarz: Marshmallow Jones: Well considering there are far more of these McDonalds/BK etc restaurants than there are 'health food' restaurants, I dont know that any of this would be a surprise.

Having said that, Americans on the whole eat like slobs.

Note that the less money you make the more likely you are to eat at the fast food places: because restaurants that serve healthier fare also charge a higher price. And apparently people are too lazy to cook for themselves...

Then why are there McDonald's in many affluent areas if they're being supported mostly by poor people?

In downtown areas you see businessmen, gov'mnt buildings, lawyers having McDs in their weekly lunch rotation?

I'm just playing devil's advocate, but think that at this point it may have more to do with eating it a lot as a kid made a lot of people be loyal customers regardless of who you become and what your income is when your grown.

And I find the idea that monied people all/mostly eat healthy because they can afford it just a little silly. Life experience and the fact that monied people are not all walking around svelte and toned.

/just my opinion, man

If you go into Walmart and compare the patrons to those of a high end store like Publix or Whole foods, you will most definitely  see the difference in size of the patrons.


Oh wait.

If?

Got any 'splainin' bout that one?
Do you imagine I live, oh I dunno.....on the moon since birth? So I've never been to any stores?

/jk

//I'm missing too much today myself to joke like that lol
//2 hrs sleep
 
2014-05-04 04:01:52 PM  

Waldo Pepper: letrole: Anyone who feigns disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Drink microbrewery beer
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers

what's wrong with #4 and #6?


Wow... same ol' lure keeps getting bites.  Reminds me of when my Uncle Nick would catch pike with a hunk of nylon rope and some treble hooks.
 
2014-05-04 04:08:29 PM  
eat at in, subby?
Are you serious?
 
2014-05-04 04:11:43 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: darch: This lipid-laden list isn't about subby being a hipster or "not liking what" you, the Perfect Farker "doesn't like", Or being "smug". It's about this country being an overweight, ignorant, corny embarrassment.

Enjoy your Type-2 diabetes, Average American standing in line at Taco Bell.

fark you. Taco Bell is awesome in that once every two months window when the craving hits and nothing but two burrito supremes and a box of tacos will do.

And yeah, I will enjoy my Type-2 diabetes. You enjoy your farking kale and spinach smoothie, asshole.


Typical Fark and American bipolarity on display here.
 
2014-05-04 04:12:24 PM  
Subby is very wrong.  Tacos like those are what I enjoy very much.  Haven't tried the places in Atlanta yet, I should leave the house more.
 
2014-05-04 04:17:51 PM  

Destructor: It makes WalMart look like a street corner convenience store. You could fit about 2 WalMarts in it. They aren't as convenient, because there are fewer of them, but WOW. Competition is alive and well in general retail.


Grew up with Meijer's.  When I was a kid the one near us still called itself Meijer's Thrifty Acres, and the name fit.  That place was (and still is) huge.
 
2014-05-04 04:21:52 PM  

Fark like a Barsoomian: Wealthier consumers, on the other hand - those earning more than $100,000 - were more likely to visit 7-Eleven.

You're telling me there aren't ritzier places to get three day old powdered donuts? Doesn't Neiman Marcus airlift you three day old donuts - powdered with Napoleon's dandruff, nothing less - within a hour or your Lexus back?


The problem with 7-eleven is that almost everything in the place is priced higher than basically anywhere else. People buy there purely for convenience because there are so damn many of them. Only rich people can afford the luxury of sacrificing value for convenience on a regular basis.
 
2014-05-04 04:28:29 PM  
Never shopped in a WalMart. There just isnt one here in NYC.
 
2014-05-04 04:31:56 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: They've done well for themselves, certainly. But calling it capitalism is a stretch.


THIS. True capitalism is when all parties in the transaction are "fully informed actors", with all the information pertaining to the deal. That's not what we have here in this country, and why there are so many people with THE DIABEETUS rolling around on HoverrRounds. If more people knew exactly what was in the food they ate from these places as well as what it could do to them it would scare the living sh*t out of them, and is exactly what these corporations don't want to happen. The corporations hold all the cards, and spend millions lobbying government to make sure it stays that way.

tl;dr - just because something or someplace is "popular" doesn't mean that it's good.
 
2014-05-04 04:33:21 PM  

theflatline: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: JoieD'Zen: born_yesterday: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: It's not your imagination. Eating healthy is more expensive, study says.

You were saying?

The GF and I have been making a lot of effort to eat healthier, and I have to agree 100%.  Fruits and vegetables cost a ridiculous amount per pound when compared to fast food (hence my celery joke), and in addition require a significant amount of meal planning to keep costs reasonable.

Once it becomes routine it will be easier and you will feel better, and save money. Really.
Example
Roast chicken for dinner. Enjoy with your choice of sides.
Left over meat can be used to toss with pasta, spinach, garlic, cheese, etc for another meal or used to make sandwiches for lunch. Chicken carcass in crockpot with water, leftover veg, spices will make a great stock or a base for soup that can be frozen.
Simple really.

No, you won't.  Healthy foods are more expensive.  That's not opinion, it's fact.  For example, your roast chicken?  That'll run you around $7 for one, maybe two meals, depending on the grocery store and size of the chicken.  Meanwhile, a loaf of cheap white bread, a jar of store-brand peanut butter, and some  flavored sugar paste jelly gets me around 7 or 8 meals for about $6.

I just don't get why people stand there and deny observable reality when it comes to the cost of eating healthy.  Shiat like Kraft Mac & Cheese is $69 a box, while that's what a single farking apple will cost me.  I can frequently get 10 meals worth of ramen for what it would cost to get a single meal's worth of frozen or fresh vegetables.  When you're dealing with families that have less than $1.50 per person per meal to spend, it's not possible for them to eat healthy, but they sure as hell can load up on the crap.  Hell, for a $1.50 per meal, you can hit McDonalds 3 times a day and get 2,000 calories.  That's impossible to do with healthy food at $1.50 per meal.

You need to move.  Here in Florida I  can get

1 ...


and you need to stop shopping at American style supermarkets. The mark-up on fresh at those places is highway robbery.

Pro-tip: 1) Find the asian grocery with the best reputation in your area. 2) Figure out when the fresh produce truck comes in. 3) Ignore the smell. 4) Buy a weeks worth of fresh produce for 15 bucks. Eating healthy IS cheaper. Just change where you shop.
 
2014-05-04 04:35:21 PM  

The Flexecutioner: Kittypie070: Mickey D's plain coffee tastes like they burned the beans til the edges were charred.

It took me five sugars until I could drink it without wincing. And it still tasted burned.

That is some bottom of the gutter coffee, and I'm not that big a coffee snob at all.


sugar doesnt really help cover burnt flavor but cream does.  at least for me it does.


The buggers din't have any cream there. Thanks for the advice though :)

Would our dear Mod like a pair of Boobies?

accessdanceforlife.com
 
2014-05-04 04:38:58 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Shiat like Kraft Mac & Cheese is $69 a box, while that's what a single farking apple will cost me.


Is that figure in Zimbabwean dollars?
 
2014-05-04 05:00:59 PM  

Destructor: The Flexecutioner: lulling you into complacent friendliness is the Destructor con. he's more than meets the eye.

I simply deallocate used memory and return it to the heap. It's my day job. Sometimes, if it's managed business, call a Disposal function...


THAT'S Why I can't remember anything today - you've thrown my memory into a heap!

Flex was right!

Well, I'll find it and then I'll get you, my pretty.

Pffft. And you thought I lived in Whoville.

Who is conning who?

/who
 
2014-05-04 05:10:30 PM  

rewind2846: True capitalism is when all parties in the transaction are "fully informed actors", with all the information pertaining to the deal.


Says who? Capitalism doesn't require full knowledge of anything. All it requires is the non-coerced participation of two or more parties acting in their own interest for their own gain.

If I give you $2 for burger, you don't need to know where the money came from, or what I plan to do with the burger, and I'm not interested in what your "Secret Sauce" contains (so long as it lives up to regulations). If I want to know more, I can certainly ask, and then act based on what you care to divulge (if anything).

rewind2846: That's not what we have here in this country, and why there are so many people with THE DIABEETUS rolling around on HoverrRounds. If more people knew exactly what was in the food they ate from these places as well as what it could do to them it would scare the living sh*t out of them, and is exactly what these corporations don't want to happen.


I hope I'm not being presumptuous here, but this seems like an actual rejection of Free Market Capitalism. If I want to acquire DIABEETUS, what right do you have to stop me? Why is it your responsibility to stop me? There is no "command and control" with Capitalism. It's all about each party acting in their best interests.

rewind2846: The corporations hold all the cards, and spend millions lobbying government to make sure it stays that way.


Whose government? The corporations can't vote. People can, though. I would suggest that if you want to find fault with the system, it should be to find a way to educate voters about this, not tell them what agreements to enter into with businesses.

rewind2846: tl;dr - just because something or someplace is "popular" doesn't mean that it's good.


The people have spoken. And they have said, "Supersize it."
 
2014-05-04 05:10:43 PM  
This is how you troll in a headline people. And I was giving up hope for Fark...

/internet high five for Subby
 
2014-05-04 05:12:39 PM  

lindalouwho: THAT'S Why I can't remember anything today - you've thrown my memory into a heap!

Flex was right!

Well, I'll find it and then I'll get you, my pretty.

Pffft. And you thought I lived in Whoville.

Who is conning who?

/who


Curses! Foiled again by Flex and his WORM drive... :-)
 
2014-05-04 05:22:16 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 05:22:52 PM  

lindalouwho: Deedeemarz: Marshmallow Jones: Well considering there are far more of these McDonalds/BK etc restaurants than there are 'health food' restaurants, I dont know that any of this would be a surprise.

Having said that, Americans on the whole eat like slobs.

Note that the less money you make the more likely you are to eat at the fast food places: because restaurants that serve healthier fare also charge a higher price. And apparently people are too lazy to cook for themselves...

Then why are there McDonald's in many affluent areas if they're being supported mostly by poor people?

In downtown areas you see businessmen, gov'mnt buildings, lawyers having McDs in their weekly lunch rotation?

I'm just playing devil's advocate, but think that at this point it may have more to do with eating it a lot as a kid made a lot of people be loyal customers regardless of who you become and what your income is when your grown.

And I find the idea that monied people all/mostly eat healthy because they can afford it just a little silly. Life experience and the fact that monied people are not all walking around svelte and toned.

/just my opinion, man


It is the article that said dude. Calm your tits.
And I would expect that a lot of the business in affluent areas is made up of kids with disposable income who get decent food at home (that is what I see in my neighborhood) not families trying to feed an actual meal.
 
2014-05-04 05:26:24 PM  
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2014-05-04 05:35:04 PM  

plcow: It would be interesting if they could normalize it by dividing the total number of visits by the total square footage of all stores.

So you get a total number of customers per square foot.  That would allow really popular single stores to compete for spots on the list and you would truly get the "most popular stores in America"


That would be a great idea - show the popularity of some of the smaller or more regional chains, at least.

I like an Egg McMuffin from McD's in the morning on a road trip, but not so fond of the afternoon menu.
 
2014-05-04 05:38:19 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 05:41:45 PM  
I don't see the problem submitter is crying about.  They are a normal, decent stores.  If you don't want to shop at them then don't.  Either way, stfu and myob.
 
2014-05-04 05:44:17 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 05:46:25 PM  
circa 1970's
 
2014-05-04 05:47:24 PM  
I'll try again

Circa 1970's

img.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 05:56:58 PM  

steklo: I'll try again

Circa 1970's

[img.fark.net image 850x1000]


Who the hell doesn't put a shirt on a kid when going out?

White trash, that's who.
 
2014-05-04 05:59:16 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: A good portion of the people in this country can't afford $10+ per person to eat out and that sure as hell isn't the result of them being lazy.


But, but ... I've been assured that poor people are poor because they are lazy.  If they weren't lazy, they'd all be wealthy.  I think this is called Lake Wobegon economics.
 
2014-05-04 06:01:10 PM  

lindalouwho: theflatline: lindalouwho: Deedeemarz: Marshmallow Jones: Well considering there are far more of these McDonalds/BK etc restaurants than there are 'health food' restaurants, I dont know that any of this would be a surprise.

Having said that, Americans on the whole eat like slobs.

Note that the less money you make the more likely you are to eat at the fast food places: because restaurants that serve healthier fare also charge a higher price. And apparently people are too lazy to cook for themselves...

Then why are there McDonald's in many affluent areas if they're being supported mostly by poor people?

In downtown areas you see businessmen, gov'mnt buildings, lawyers having McDs in their weekly lunch rotation?

I'm just playing devil's advocate, but think that at this point it may have more to do with eating it a lot as a kid made a lot of people be loyal customers regardless of who you become and what your income is when your grown.

And I find the idea that monied people all/mostly eat healthy because they can afford it just a little silly. Life experience and the fact that monied people are not all walking around svelte and toned.

/just my opinion, man

If you go into Walmart and compare the patrons to those of a high end store like Publix or Whole foods, you will most definitely  see the difference in size of the patrons.

Oh wait.

If?

Got any 'splainin' bout that one?
Do you imagine I live, oh I dunno.....on the moon since birth? So I've never been to any stores?

/jk

//I'm missing too much today myself to joke like that lol
//2 hrs sleep


How many other stores have a site like people of walmart showcasing their shoppers?
 
2014-05-04 06:03:53 PM  

born_yesterday: steklo: I'll try again

Circa 1970's

[img.fark.net image 850x1000]

Who the hell doesn't put a shirt on a kid when going out?

White trash, that's who.


You noticed the lack of shirt, but not the gun in his hand?
 
2014-05-04 06:07:41 PM  

The_Fuzz: Who the hell doesn't put a shirt on a kid when going out?

White trash, that's who.

You noticed the lack of shirt, but not the gun in his hand?


In was the style of the time. Remember, you're only a few years from the late 60's (based on that photo).
 
2014-05-04 06:09:19 PM  

propasaurus: JoieD'Zen: I manage to get through life without frequenting any of those places. Am I missing something?

Your sense of smug self satisfaction? No, wait that seems to be intact.


Are you living off the grid?   Your parents raised you in a commune?   You live in a town of 1,800 people and never go anywhere else?
 
2014-05-04 06:09:38 PM  

darch: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: darch: Listen, I love a nice, sloppy burger just as much as the next red-blooded 'Murkin, but why is it that I somehow have managed to avoid setting foot in a McDonalds or Burger King in, say, 25 years? Because I find the food to be disgusting. Everyone knows it's utter garbage laden with chemicals and fillers, but they go anyway. It has nothing to do with "convenience"- there's small independent burger joints literally everywhere- it has EVERYTHING to do with Americans being willfully lazy and taking the path of least resistance.

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Please, tell us all about those eeevil chemicals!!! in fast food.

Also, it has WAY less to do with Americans being "lazy" and a lot more to do with a whole lot of Americans being pretty damn poor.  Yeah, there are a number of local burger joints near me, but just one burger and a drink from one of those places would buy me a couple days worth of food at McDonalds or BK.  A good portion of the people in this country can't afford $10+ per person to eat out and that sure as hell isn't the result of them being lazy.

Make fun of me all you want but I categorically deny every single thing you just typed. Eating healthy isn't a)rocket science or b)that expensive. This whole "they're poor so they frequent fast food joints" is utter, 100% bullshiat. Sorry, that reasoning just doesn't wash.


You still haven't elaborated on the garbage, chemicals, and fillers in McDonald's and Burger King's food.
 
2014-05-04 06:12:29 PM  

JoieD'Zen: born_yesterday: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: It's not your imagination. Eating healthy is more expensive, study says.

You were saying?

The GF and I have been making a lot of effort to eat healthier, and I have to agree 100%.  Fruits and vegetables cost a ridiculous amount per pound when compared to fast food (hence my celery joke), and in addition require a significant amount of meal planning to keep costs reasonable.

Once it becomes routine it will be easier and you will feel better, and save money. Really.
Example
Roast chicken for dinner. Enjoy with your choice of sides.
Left over meat can be used to toss with pasta, spinach, garlic, cheese, etc for another meal or used to make sandwiches for lunch. Chicken carcass in crockpot with water, leftover veg, spices will make a great stock or a base for soup that can be frozen.
Simple really.


You can eat very well for very little money if you go that route, but even if you don't put much effort in at all you can cook for yourself and save a lot. For example, a box of hamburger helper and a pound of ground beef costs about $7.50, throw in a bag of frozen veggies for $2 and in 20 minutes you have a meal for at least two (unless you are both really big eaters) with more nutrition than what you could get for the same price at McDonald's. Less junk calories too.

If you have a grill, you can make about 4 burgers from a pound of ground beef, that's $2.50 or less (depending on the quality of the meat and how much you buy at once.) A little salt and pepper, some buns, lettuce, and a tomato, and you're still only looking at $3.50 per burger. Buy a bag of frozen french fries for another $3.50 (with around 4 servings) and you can get the same amount and type of food you would get at a fast food joint, but it will be healthier, cheaper, and taste better. The main difference is the extra time, but it's really only about 20 minutes, and that goes down if you make a bunch in advance and freeze them.
 
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