If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(24/7 Wall Street)   The most popular places to shop and eat at in America pretty much explains why we need just to nuke the entire planet and start over. It's the only way to be sure   (247wallst.com) divider line 244
    More: Sad, CVS Caremark, types of business, propensity  
•       •       •

21528 clicks; posted to Main » on 04 May 2014 at 12:26 PM (29 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



244 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest
 
2014-05-04 10:59:27 AM  
I manage to get through life without frequenting any of those places. Am I missing something?
 
2014-05-04 11:38:28 AM  
Subby sounds like an hipster.

Maybe instead of trying to find some false authenticity, you just live your life?
 
2014-05-04 12:12:05 PM  

JoieD'Zen: I manage to get through life without frequenting any of those places. Am I missing something?


Your sense of smug self satisfaction? No, wait that seems to be intact.
 
2014-05-04 12:27:53 PM  
Stop liking what I don't like.
 
2014-05-04 12:29:17 PM  
And  Americans wonder why they're fat...Really?
 
2014-05-04 12:31:15 PM  
So, I read the list.  Seems about right.  The same convenience stores, fast food joints, and Walmarts that you see everywhere.

What did subby think would be popular, farmer's markets and vinyl record shops?

I bet if the stores that subby likes were popular, subby wouldn't like them anymore.
 
2014-05-04 12:31:15 PM  

propasaurus: JoieD'Zen: I manage to get through life without frequenting any of those places. Am I missing something?

Your sense of smug self satisfaction? No, wait that seems to be intact.


Ha.
Yep.
 
2014-05-04 12:31:27 PM  
Wow. That list is the least surprising list in the history of lists. They're popular because they deliver the best value to the customer. How do I know that?

Capitalism, biatches. It works.
 
2014-05-04 12:31:32 PM  

JoieD'Zen: I manage to get through life without frequenting any of those places. Am I missing something?


Crossainwiches at BK, but that's about it.
 
2014-05-04 12:31:32 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Subby sounds like an hipster.

Maybe instead of trying to find some false authenticity, you just live your life?


This.

Nothing wrong with the places in the article. If the author or subby doesn't like those places, well, they don't have to visit them.
 
2014-05-04 12:31:51 PM  
And this is wrong because why?
 
2014-05-04 12:32:57 PM  
where do you eat, smugmitter?
 
2014-05-04 12:33:16 PM  
Wealthier consumers, on the other hand - those earning more than $100,000 - were more likely to visit 7-Eleven.

You're telling me there aren't ritzier places to get three day old powdered donuts? Doesn't Neiman Marcus airlift you three day old donuts - powdered with Napoleon's dandruff, nothing less - within a hour or your Lexus back?
 
2014-05-04 12:34:16 PM  
and award for the most elitist headline of the year goes to subby!
 
2014-05-04 12:34:32 PM  
This lipid-laden list isn't about subby being a hipster or "not liking what" you, the Perfect Farker "doesn't like", Or being "smug". It's about this country being an overweight, ignorant, corny embarrassment.

Enjoy your Type-2 diabetes, Average American standing in line at Taco Bell.
 
2014-05-04 12:37:10 PM  
Smug is not the In Color this year, Subby
 
2014-05-04 12:37:26 PM  

darch: This lipid-laden list isn't about subby being a hipster or "not liking what" you, the Perfect Farker "doesn't like", Or being "smug". It's about this country being an overweight, ignorant, corny embarrassment.

Enjoy your Type-2 diabetes, Average American standing in line at Taco Bell.


fark you. Taco Bell is awesome in that once every two months window when the craving hits and nothing but two burrito supremes and a box of tacos will do.

And yeah, I will enjoy my Type-2 diabetes. You enjoy your farking kale and spinach smoothie, asshole.
 
2014-05-04 12:37:28 PM  

darch: Average American standing in line at Taco Bell.


darch, there is nothing more wholesome than a bean burrito. :-) Nothing.

The Staff of Life.
 
2014-05-04 12:38:26 PM  

Destructor: Wow. That list is the least surprising list in the history of lists. They're popular because they deliver the best value to the customer. How do I know that?

Capitalism, biatches. It works.


More like they are the most numerous and widespread chains.
 
2014-05-04 12:39:15 PM  
Well considering there are far more of these McDonalds/BK etc restaurants than there are 'health food' restaurants, I dont know that any of this would be a surprise.

Having said that, Americans on the whole eat like slobs.
 
2014-05-04 12:39:45 PM  

darch: This lipid-laden list isn't about subby being a hipster or "not liking what" you, the Perfect Farker "doesn't like", Or being "smug". It's about this country being an overweight, ignorant, corny embarrassment.

Enjoy your Type-2 diabetes, Average American standing in line at Taco Bell.


All that hate's gonna burn you up inside.


And it's really more about the shocking idea that businesses with thousands of locations across the country that gear their products and services to convenience and/or low prices are going to be frequented by more people than businesses with fewer locations that aren't as convenient or cheap.
 
2014-05-04 12:39:48 PM  
And you want to nuke the entire planet over what you consider bad American consumer habits ?
How did subby reach the conclusion that the people of Botswana or Iceland are somehow also responsible ?
 
2014-05-04 12:40:35 PM  
This reminds me of smug Canadians who spurn Tim Horton's, claiming that the coffee is just generic swill.

"So where do you get your coffee?"

"Starbucks."

:/
 
2014-05-04 12:41:51 PM  
What's the list in other countries?

/but I agree with darch.
 
2014-05-04 12:42:26 PM  

assjuice: More like they are the most numerous and widespread chains.


Capitalism in action, baby! Both guns blazing... bam bam bam! Target anchor store there! FffffffffffewBAM! Freestanding McDonalds there! *ping ping ping* <ricochet noise>, and you get a 7-11 over there! Jobs for peeps, bargains for consumers, win-win. I love it.
 
2014-05-04 12:42:43 PM  

darch: This lipid-laden list isn't about subby being a hipster or "not liking what" you, the Perfect Farker "doesn't like", Or being "smug". It's about this country being an overweight, ignorant, corny embarrassment.

Enjoy your Type-2 diabetes, Average American standing in line at Taco Bell.


Bullshait, it's about companies not willing to pay their employees more, so people eat where they can afford to. Just because these places are "popular" doesn't mean it's the primary choice of the patrons. If you had employees shelling out money that would be considered a living wage in the area the employee resides, you better believe for a lunch break he or she would be going to a better quality restaurant than the ones listed (especially if it's an hour lunch for a sit down place).
 
2014-05-04 12:43:23 PM  
At least you won't get robbed at Starbucks by fork point...
 
2014-05-04 12:43:49 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: darch: This lipid-laden list isn't about subby being a hipster or "not liking what" you, the Perfect Farker "doesn't like", Or being "smug". It's about this country being an overweight, ignorant, corny embarrassment.

Enjoy your Type-2 diabetes, Average American standing in line at Taco Bell.

Bullshait, it's about companies not willing to pay their employees more, so people eat where they can afford to. Just because these places are "popular" doesn't mean it's the primary choice of the patrons. If you had employees shelling out money that would be considered a living wage in the area the employee resides, you better believe for a lunch break he or she would be going to a better quality restaurant than the ones listed (especially if it's an hour lunch for a sit down place).


My fault: "If you had employers shelling out money that would be considered a living wage..."
 
2014-05-04 12:45:19 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: darch: This lipid-laden list isn't about subby being a hipster or "not liking what" you, the Perfect Farker "doesn't like", Or being "smug". It's about this country being an overweight, ignorant, corny embarrassment.

Enjoy your Type-2 diabetes, Average American standing in line at Taco Bell.

fark you. Taco Bell is awesome in that once every two months window when the craving hits and nothing but two burrito supremes and a box of tacos will do.

And yeah, I will enjoy my Type-2 diabetes. You enjoy your farking kale and spinach smoothie, asshole.



I love it. Another knee-jerk, unreasoned, either-or reaction from a Farker. I'm guessing, AAG, that you weigh on the north side of 300lbs and are fairly pissed off about it, no? Oh wait- you're on Fark- so you're actually a marathon runner who strangely craves literal garbage every "once every two months".

"Kale and spinach smoothie"? Really? That's the best you can come up with because I find Taco Bell abhorrent?
 
2014-05-04 12:45:22 PM  
I go to Subway from time to time, and I actually like Taco Bell.....but I haven't been in ANY of those places once in the last month.

I cook food at home a lot and get my burgers from someplace else (Shake & Go, Burger Madness...etc)
 
2014-05-04 12:46:30 PM  
I don't know how it is where you live, but my *favorite* places in our city tend to keep weird hours like "open until 7pm" or "open Saturdays until 1 pm and closed Sunday".

So a lot of these places end up filling in the gaps.
 
2014-05-04 12:46:48 PM  
GO BACK TO RUSSIA!
 
2014-05-04 12:47:02 PM  
I got no problems with the list; people are gonna shop where it's cheapest.  As stated above, these stores are also ubiquitous, so of course their sales are higher.

When I came of age, Sam Adams was "The good beer".  This was well before you could find microbrews everywhere.  Now, there is good beer and breweries all over the place.  I see the same thing happening with sausage.  It's taking a while, but there are better brands and quality everywhere--I even saw knackwurst at the Giant.

I guess my point is that while I understand why these stores are the most used, I don't want that to ever result in stifling of the quality of available goods.  Also, I'm on the 4th beer of the day and I'm getting hungry.
 
2014-05-04 12:47:09 PM  
Lists like these are based on the "majority" who are not foodies but just want somewhere known to be cheap, convenient, and reliable. Then they get evaluated by foodies who decry the fall of civilization.

Simply realize that not everyone shares your interests, *whatever* your interests are. Most people who buy books do so at B&N or Amazon, not independent bookstores. I'm sad that the indies are disappearing but overall I'm just glad more people are reading than ever before in history. I'm not going to bemoan that they're not reading THE CLASSICS. Never was there a time that "most people" read the classics, mainly because never before was there a time when most people could read.

The number of foodies hasn't declined Subby. There are no End Times here. It's just people who want to get a bite and go.
 
2014-05-04 12:47:21 PM  

T-Servo: This reminds me of smug Canadians who spurn Tim Horton's, claiming that the coffee is just generic swill.


Anyone who denies the delicious beauty of Timmy Ho's needs to shut their whore mouth
 
2014-05-04 12:47:41 PM  

Destructor: Wow. That list is the least surprising list in the history of lists. They're popular because they deliver the best value to the customer. How do I know that?

Capitalism, biatches. It works.


Wal-Mart is a welfare queen. They receive billions of dollars in property tax "relief" and get free infrastructure upgrades like right-of-way improvements outside their store, in "economic development funds" where local governments compete in zero-sum games to get a distribution center, and zoning variances that other stores have to comply with.

Capitalism also relies on informed consumers, and Wal-Mart has literally pioneered the science of confusing people into thinking they're paying less than they are. They're prices are often higher overall, but they'll reduce the value of certain "anchor" goods - goods people know the value of, like, say, milk, while slightly raising the prices on goods people are more uncertain about, like a 3-pack of compact florescent bulbs. They'll also get major brands to make slightly worse versions of their products for wal-mart so that people think they're getting the same thing, but cheaper.

They've done well for themselves, certainly. But calling it capitalism is a stretch.
 
2014-05-04 12:47:59 PM  

lenfromak: And this is wrong because why?


Because people confuse popular with best and then get in a huff.
 
2014-05-04 12:47:59 PM  

Claude the Dog: darch: This lipid-laden list isn't about subby being a hipster or "not liking what" you, the Perfect Farker "doesn't like", Or being "smug". It's about this country being an overweight, ignorant, corny embarrassment.

Enjoy your Type-2 diabetes, Average American standing in line at Taco Bell.


blogs.westword.com

All that hate's gonna burn you up inside.

It keeps him warm.

i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-05-04 12:48:47 PM  

assjuice: Destructor: Wow. That list is the least surprising list in the history of lists. They're popular because they deliver the best value to the customer. How do I know that?

Capitalism, biatches. It works.

More like they are the most numerous and widespread chains.


Which they became by being the... anyone? Anyone?
 
2014-05-04 12:48:57 PM  
CVS sucks, Rite Aid for the win!
 
2014-05-04 12:49:01 PM  
I don't have a big problem with Wal Mart as a store, I just can't stand the type of people who shop at Wal Mart.
 
2014-05-04 12:49:40 PM  
I go to Target and Starbucks regularly. And my insurance plan is CVS Caremark, so I use their mail order but not the store. Go to walgreens occasionally too. That is it for the list. Never go to walmart, mcdonalds, subway, or Taco Bell, don't have 7-11 here, and may go to Burger King once a year.

So I guess I am typical for my income bracket.....which surprises me.
 
2014-05-04 12:50:38 PM  

DonkeyDixon: T-Servo: This reminds me of smug Canadians who spurn Tim Horton's, claiming that the coffee is just generic swill.

Anyone who denies the delicious beauty of Timmy Ho's needs to shut their whore mouth


I don't like the way those communists insist on adding the cream for me.  I could go on, but that practice is the enemy of everything just and good in the world.
 
2014-05-04 12:51:18 PM  
It would be interesting if they could normalize it by dividing the total number of visits by the total square footage of all stores.

So you get a total number of customers per square foot.  That would allow really popular single stores to compete for spots on the list and you would truly get the "most popular stores in America"
 
2014-05-04 12:52:36 PM  
Meh, subby has a point.

The rest of you just sound fat.
 
2014-05-04 12:54:06 PM  

brimed03: Lists like these are based on the "majority" who are not foodies but just want somewhere known to be cheap, convenient, and reliable. Then they get evaluated by foodies who decry the fall of civilization.

Simply realize that not everyone shares your interests, *whatever* your interests are. Most people who buy books do so at B&N or Amazon, not independent bookstores. I'm sad that the indies are disappearing but overall I'm just glad more people are reading than ever before in history. I'm not going to bemoan that they're not reading THE CLASSICS. Never was there a time that "most people" read the classics, mainly because never before was there a time when most people could read.

The number of foodies hasn't declined Subby. There are no End Times here. It's just people who want to get a bite and go.


Listen, I love a nice, sloppy burger just as much as the next red-blooded 'Murkin, but why is it that I somehow have managed to avoid setting foot in a McDonalds or Burger King in, say, 25 years? Because I find the food to be disgusting. Everyone knows it's utter garbage laden with chemicals and fillers, but they go anyway. It has nothing to do with "convenience"- there's small independent burger joints literally everywhere- it has EVERYTHING to do with Americans being willfully lazy and taking the path of least resistance.

This is apros pos:

img.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 12:54:13 PM  

Marshmallow Jones: Well considering there are far more of these McDonalds/BK etc restaurants than there are 'health food' restaurants, I dont know that any of this would be a surprise.

Having said that, Americans on the whole eat like slobs.


Note that the less money you make the more likely you are to eat at the fast food places: because restaurants that serve healthier fare also charge a higher price. And apparently people are too lazy to cook for themselves...
 
2014-05-04 12:54:38 PM  
 Anyone who feigns disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Drink microbrewery beer
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers
 
2014-05-04 12:54:41 PM  
/stop liking what I don't like.jpg
 
2014-05-04 12:55:14 PM  
Most Americans want things cheap and fast...like subbys mom.
 
2014-05-04 12:55:15 PM  

Destructor: Wow. That list is the least surprising list in the history of lists. They're popular because they deliver the best value to the customer.



Pretty much this. And WTF is the problem with that?
 
2014-05-04 12:56:18 PM  

DonkeyDixon: T-Servo: This reminds me of smug Canadians who spurn Tim Horton's, claiming that the coffee is just generic swill.

Anyone who denies the delicious beauty of Timmy Ho's needs to shut their whore mouth


I heard one person explain that good coffee wasn't possible for just over a loonie- coffee has to cost at least $5 to be decent.

born_yesterday: I don't like the way those communists insist on adding the cream for me.  I could go on, but that practice is the enemy of everything just and good in the world.


You're just weird. That saves a mountain of tiny, plastic creamer containers (and in many small towns, most people seem to use the drivethru).
 
2014-05-04 12:56:40 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: But calling it capitalism is a stretch.


Crony corporatism. To which, I blame the politician enablers that allowed corporate "welfare queen"ism to happen. It should be stopped immediately, and the politicians that let it happen should be held accountable for it.

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Capitalism also relies on informed consumers


It helps. But I would suggest that Democracy is much more dependent on an informed citizen.
 
2014-05-04 12:57:36 PM  
hmm, headline casts aspersions on America's eating habits.  commenters cast aspersions on subby's opinions on life.  if that isn't the Fark calling the reddit digg then i dont know what is.

May the fark be with you.

/not subby
 
2014-05-04 12:58:58 PM  
So, sheeple.

Also, whoever has an advantage of capital tends to succeed. Throw up a store on every street corner with a huge advertising budget, and you're bound to have a modicum of success.
 
2014-05-04 12:59:33 PM  
Let's see:

10.  Decades.
  9.  Not for months and never again.
  8.  Once a month.  The one here has improved dramatically, and Satisfries are a gift from Paradise.
  7.  Couple times a week because there's one across the street.  If it wasn't, we'd go to Walgreens.  Better  customer service and selection.
  6.  Once three years ago while looking for a Christmas present.  Never before or since.
  5.  Whenever I can.  See #7 above.
  4.  Never been in one.
  3.  Once a week, because they can build a reasonably healthy sandwich that tastes good and besides, Mrs Coast works there.
  2.  Not for months now.  Literally everything there makes me ill.
  1.  Once a year at Christmas time.  Otherwise it's nopenopenope.
 
2014-05-04 01:00:26 PM  
Hey, don't hate on subby.  He only mindlessly regurgitated the same old tired line used in many a fark comment/headline.  And the author is merely writing a totally unamazing article dealing with a theme farkers have worn out many, many times before.
 
2014-05-04 01:00:45 PM  

propasaurus: JoieD'Zen: I manage to get through life without frequenting any of those places. Am I missing something?

Your sense of smug self satisfaction? No, wait that seems to be intact.


Hehe
 
2014-05-04 01:03:31 PM  

MayoSlather: Also, whoever has an advantage of capital tends to succeed. Throw up a store on every street corner with a huge advertising budget, and you're bound to have a modicum of success.


OMG how I wish that were true. You really need to have a good business plan; and that's so much harder than it sounds. The biggest advertising budget in the universe can't help you if you're idea sucks.

But if it's really good, that's all it takes. It is possible to come up with a genius plan, take it to a bank, get a loan, and make shiat happen.
 
2014-05-04 01:03:45 PM  
ninjamonkey.us
 
2014-05-04 01:04:52 PM  

letrole: Anyone who feigns disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Drink microbrewery beer
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers


I'm not on Fark a lot but I swear I've seen you post this list in like 5 other threads over the last few months...
 
2014-05-04 01:05:23 PM  
AverageAmericanGuy: Subby sounds like an asshole hipster.

Maybe instead of trying to find some false authenticity, you just live your life?

FTFY
 
2014-05-04 01:07:54 PM  

capt.hollister: And you want to nuke the entire planet over what you consider bad American consumer habits ?
How did subby reach the conclusion that the people of Botswana or Iceland are somehow also responsible ?


That's what I came to ask. What the fark, stubby?

If you want to wipe out humanity then do it one person at a time, starting with yourself.
 
2014-05-04 01:07:59 PM  

darch: Listen, I love a nice, sloppy burger just as much as the next red-blooded 'Murkin, but why is it that I somehow have managed to avoid setting foot in a McDonalds or Burger King in, say, 25 years? Because I find the food to be disgusting. Everyone knows it's utter garbage laden with chemicals and fillers, but they go anyway. It has nothing to do with "convenience"- there's small independent burger joints literally everywhere- it has EVERYTHING to do with Americans being willfully lazy and taking the path of least resistance.


www.rigsofrods.com

Please, tell us all about those eeevil chemicals!!! in fast food.

Also, it has WAY less to do with Americans being "lazy" and a lot more to do with a whole lot of Americans being pretty damn poor.  Yeah, there are a number of local burger joints near me, but just one burger and a drink from one of those places would buy me a couple days worth of food at McDonalds or BK.  A good portion of the people in this country can't afford $10+ per person to eat out and that sure as hell isn't the result of them being lazy.
 
2014-05-04 01:10:29 PM  

letrole: Anyone who feigns disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Drink microbrewery beer
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers


what's wrong with #4 and #6?
 
2014-05-04 01:10:45 PM  

AtlanticCoast63: Satisfries are a gift from Paradise.


I was amazed at how tasty those things are.  Unfortunately for me, the only BK within 50 miles went out of business a couple months ago.
 
2014-05-04 01:13:32 PM  
Does this really need to be said? Seriously? Again?

Okay, if you're fat (like me), eat less and exercise more. Is it really that much of a secret?

You can do this by using McDonalds or any fast food restaurant. Get a hamburger for $1 or 2. Skip the fries, get a glass of water.

Stop and think about that: That's a hell of a deal. For $2 you have an decent hot lunch.

Now, i if you need a sammich, you can't find a better value of dollars to calories in the modern world. I suggest you look into Wendy's Baconator.
 
2014-05-04 01:17:05 PM  

Destructor: You can do this by using McDonalds or any fast food restaurant. Get a hamburger for $1 or 2. Skip the fries, get a glass of water.


Or, for just a dollar or two more, you could buy a pound of celery at the grocery store.

Mmmmm...plain celery.  Doesn't that sound good?
 
2014-05-04 01:17:47 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: darch: Listen, I love a nice, sloppy burger just as much as the next red-blooded 'Murkin, but why is it that I somehow have managed to avoid setting foot in a McDonalds or Burger King in, say, 25 years? Because I find the food to be disgusting. Everyone knows it's utter garbage laden with chemicals and fillers, but they go anyway. It has nothing to do with "convenience"- there's small independent burger joints literally everywhere- it has EVERYTHING to do with Americans being willfully lazy and taking the path of least resistance.

[www.rigsofrods.com image 500x389]

Please, tell us all about those eeevil chemicals!!! in fast food.

Also, it has WAY less to do with Americans being "lazy" and a lot more to do with a whole lot of Americans being pretty damn poor.  Yeah, there are a number of local burger joints near me, but just one burger and a drink from one of those places would buy me a couple days worth of food at McDonalds or BK.  A good portion of the people in this country can't afford $10+ per person to eat out and that sure as hell isn't the result of them being lazy.


Make fun of me all you want but I categorically deny every single thing you just typed. Eating healthy isn't a)rocket science or b)that expensive. This whole "they're poor so they frequent fast food joints" is utter, 100% bullshiat. Sorry, that reasoning just doesn't wash.
 
2014-05-04 01:18:08 PM  

Waldo Pepper: letrole: Anyone who feigns disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Drink microbrewery beer
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers

what's wrong with #4 and #6?


I can't find the link at the moment, but the problem with #4 is that when you get someone who makes that claim, play them music from vinyl and music from a digital lossless format like FLAC without letting them see which is which, they can't reliably tell you which is the vinyl and which is the digital.  That whole "vinyl sounds warmer" is pure confirmation bias.

As for #6, there are some that are convinced that a guy who claims to prefer small breasts is either lying in order to be non-conformist or secretly gay.  So, no real problem with liking small breasts, just be aware that you will be judged by the mouth-breathers for it.
 
2014-05-04 01:19:55 PM  

DonkeyDixon: T-Servo: This reminds me of smug Canadians who spurn Tim Horton's, claiming that the coffee is just generic swill.

Anyone who denies the delicious beauty of Timmy Ho's needs to shut their whore mouth


If sugar and cream is added anything tastes great.  I drink coffee black and I find tim hortons tastes really weird.  I dont know what the fark is wrong with it, but its weird. I used to like it as well, not sure what happened. I kinda wish it was generic swill.

If I need drinkable generic swill, Mcdonalds coffee is what I get.
 
2014-05-04 01:20:24 PM  

DonkeyDixon: T-Servo: This reminds me of smug Canadians who spurn Tim Horton's, claiming that the coffee is just generic swill.

Anyone who denies the delicious beauty of Timmy Ho's needs to shut their whore mouth


No it is absolute shiat coffee, and I'm probably the furthest away from being a coffee snob. From what's near me, 7-11 is my first choice and I would go to second cup more if it wasn't so expensive. But to think Timmies is so popular because of great coffee is absurd.
 
2014-05-04 01:20:47 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: darch: Listen, I love a nice, sloppy burger just as much as the next red-blooded 'Murkin, but why is it that I somehow have managed to avoid setting foot in a McDonalds or Burger King in, say, 25 years? Because I find the food to be disgusting. Everyone knows it's utter garbage laden with chemicals and fillers, but they go anyway. It has nothing to do with "convenience"- there's small independent burger joints literally everywhere- it has EVERYTHING to do with Americans being willfully lazy and taking the path of least resistance.

[www.rigsofrods.com image 500x389]

Please, tell us all about those eeevil chemicals!!! in fast food.

Also, it has WAY less to do with Americans being "lazy" and a lot more to do with a whole lot of Americans being pretty damn poor.  Yeah, there are a number of local burger joints near me, but just one burger and a drink from one of those places would buy me a couple days worth of food at McDonalds or BK.  A good portion of the people in this country can't afford $10+ per person to eat out and that sure as hell isn't the result of them being lazy.


img.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 01:22:18 PM  

darch: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: darch: Listen, I love a nice, sloppy burger just as much as the next red-blooded 'Murkin, but why is it that I somehow have managed to avoid setting foot in a McDonalds or Burger King in, say, 25 years? Because I find the food to be disgusting. Everyone knows it's utter garbage laden with chemicals and fillers, but they go anyway. It has nothing to do with "convenience"- there's small independent burger joints literally everywhere- it has EVERYTHING to do with Americans being willfully lazy and taking the path of least resistance.

[www.rigsofrods.com image 500x389]

Please, tell us all about those eeevil chemicals!!! in fast food.

Also, it has WAY less to do with Americans being "lazy" and a lot more to do with a whole lot of Americans being pretty damn poor.  Yeah, there are a number of local burger joints near me, but just one burger and a drink from one of those places would buy me a couple days worth of food at McDonalds or BK.  A good portion of the people in this country can't afford $10+ per person to eat out and that sure as hell isn't the result of them being lazy.

Make fun of me all you want but I categorically deny every single thing you just typed. Eating healthy isn't a)rocket science or b)that expensive. This whole "they're poor so they frequent fast food joints" is utter, 100% bullshiat. Sorry, that reasoning just doesn't wash.


It's not your imagination.  Eating healthy is more expensive, study says.

You were saying?
 
2014-05-04 01:23:15 PM  
The only thing on earth more pathetic than blaming societies ills on "consumerism" is white-knighting for it.
 
2014-05-04 01:23:36 PM  

born_yesterday: Or, for just a dollar or two more, you could buy a pound of celery at the grocery store.

Mmmmm...plain celery. Doesn't that sound good?


No.... And you're scaring me... :-)
 
2014-05-04 01:24:24 PM  

DonkeyDixon: T-Servo: This reminds me of smug Canadians who spurn Tim Horton's, claiming that the coffee is just generic swill.

Anyone who denies the delicious beauty of Timmy Ho's needs to shut their whore mouth


I've come to the conclusion the only reason people like Timmy's is the 18% cream and liquid sugar "double double".  Basically a creamy sweet desert that may also contain cocaine, adding to its addictiveness. Try that shiat black and you you will realize how horrible it is.  Just bad coffee.
 
2014-05-04 01:24:33 PM  

letrole: Anyone who feigns disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac also tends to:


If you're going to do this schtick, you could at least stop recycling the same stupid items on your lists. That's just lazy bro.
 
2014-05-04 01:24:46 PM  

dennysgod: Most Americans want things cheap and fast...like subbys mom.


Winner! :)
 
2014-05-04 01:24:51 PM  

Waldo Pepper: letrole: Anyone who feigns disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Drink microbrewery beer
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers

what's wrong with #4 and #6?


Stop liking what he doesn't like.
 
2014-05-04 01:27:43 PM  

letrole: Anyone who feigns disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac also tends to:


Wow, pretentious much?

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years

Watch TV nearly every day

2. Drink microbrewery beer

I enjoy decent beer instead of mass-produced swill. Is that somehow bad?

3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac

I prefer streaming independent films via Amazon Prime on my iPad.

4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records

And I have a nice turntable and stereo system to go with them

5. Read books at Starbucks

On my Kindle, which I'm willing to bet is doubleplusungood with you.

6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts

My wife of 18 years has wonderfully sensitive small breasts. And can sleep on her stomach and has yet to complain about back pain.

7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.

Just stopped in to be some half-and-half for my coffee.

8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises

Sadly, I am one of those smokers. But, I smoke American Spirit (the yellow box), so I can be a smug pariah.

9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter

I never worried about that issue, but apparently it seems to be a big issue with you. You wouldn't be projecting now, would you?

10. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers

And bike gloves, bike shoes, and a helmet with a GoPro on it. That would likely be tripleplusungood.

So much for your trying to lump everyone who doesn't appreciate the finer points of a truly awful mass-produced "burger sandwich" into some faux hipster subset.
 
2014-05-04 01:31:23 PM  

SuperSeriousMan: letrole: Anyone who feigns disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac also tends to:

Wow, pretentious much?

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years

Watch TV nearly every day

2. Drink microbrewery beer

I enjoy decent beer instead of mass-produced swill. Is that somehow bad?

3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac

I prefer streaming independent films via Amazon Prime on my iPad.

4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records

And I have a nice turntable and stereo system to go with them

5. Read books at Starbucks

On my Kindle, which I'm willing to bet is doubleplusungood with you.

6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts

My wife of 18 years has wonderfully sensitive small breasts. And can sleep on her stomach and has yet to complain about back pain.

7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.

Just stopped in to be some half-and-half for my coffee.

8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises

Sadly, I am one of those smokers. But, I smoke American Spirit (the yellow box), so I can be a smug pariah.

9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter

I never worried about that issue, but apparently it seems to be a big issue with you. You wouldn't be projecting now, would you?

10. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers

And bike gloves, bike shoes, and a helmet with a GoPro on it. That would likely be tripleplusungood.

So much for your trying to lump everyone who doesn't appreciate the finer points of a truly awful mass-produced "burger sandwich" into some faux hipster subset.


Read his handle. He posts that list in lots of topics: "People who X are also likely to:". Just ignore the sad, boring troll.
 
2014-05-04 01:31:33 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: It's not your imagination. Eating healthy is more expensive, study says.

You were saying?


The GF and I have been making a lot of effort to eat healthier, and I have to agree 100%.  Fruits and vegetables cost a ridiculous amount per pound when compared to fast food (hence my celery joke), and in addition require a significant amount of meal planning to keep costs reasonable.
 
2014-05-04 01:32:26 PM  

SuperSeriousMan: letrole: Anyone who feigns disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac also tends to:

Wow, pretentious much?

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years

Watch TV nearly every day

2. Drink microbrewery beer

I enjoy decent beer instead of mass-produced swill. Is that somehow bad?

3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac

I prefer streaming independent films via Amazon Prime on my iPad.

4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records

And I have a nice turntable and stereo system to go with them

5. Read books at Starbucks

On my Kindle, which I'm willing to bet is doubleplusungood with you.

6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts

My wife of 18 years has wonderfully sensitive small breasts. And can sleep on her stomach and has yet to complain about back pain.

7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.

Just stopped in to be some half-and-half for my coffee.

8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises

Sadly, I am one of those smokers. But, I smoke American Spirit (the yellow box), so I can be a smug pariah.

9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter

I never worried about that issue, but apparently it seems to be a big issue with you. You wouldn't be projecting now, would you?

10. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers

And bike gloves, bike shoes, and a helmet with a GoPro on it. That would likely be tripleplusungood.

So much for your trying to lump everyone who doesn't appreciate the finer points of a truly awful mass-produced "burger sandwich" into some faux hipster subset.


He (I assume he's a he) posts that list all over Fark- don't fall for it man! Note the name- "Letrole" = Le Troll = The Troll
 
2014-05-04 01:33:20 PM  
img.fark.netimg.fark.netimg.fark.netimg.fark.netimg.fark.netimg.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 01:35:39 PM  
letrole: Anyone who feigns disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac also tends to:


1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Drink microbrewery beer
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers


 Waldo Pepper: what's wrong with #4 and #6?



4. Vinyl is an inferior format. It's more fragile, less accurate on playback, and inconvenient to keep running with fresh records for extended periods.

6. Small Breasts are the homeopathic method applied to sweater puppies. Less is better, and even less is even better, so like tinctures of iodine diluted to 3 parts per billion, little boobies are rockingly powerful to sad chaps who can't manage to hookup with a properly titted girl anyway.
 
2014-05-04 01:36:29 PM  
img.fark.net
 
Ral
2014-05-04 01:36:38 PM  
"It's cheap and it's everywhere" explain all of these except Starbucks.  For Starbucks I think it's just about the coffee addiction.
 
2014-05-04 01:37:34 PM  
Subway....if I want a sandwich I'll make it at home. McDonalds...yep. Love the Big Mac and I am not even ashamed of it. Target...not on your life. Have zero patience for the holier than thou mommy tribe that frequents the one here. Walmart....only at 2am on a Tuesday. Drag Queens are fun and the 500lb home tattooed white trash is already gone. Taco Bell...nope. Taco Bueno is better.
 
2014-05-04 01:37:48 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 01:38:51 PM  
You know, Walmarts often have a McDonald's inside them.

:: Subby's head assplodes ::
 
2014-05-04 01:38:58 PM  

havana_joe: He (I assume he's a he) posts that list all over Fark- don't fall for it man! Note the name- "Letrole" = Le Troll = The Troll


My surname is Le Trôle.
 
2014-05-04 01:41:04 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Subby sounds like an hipster.

Maybe instead of trying to find some false authenticity, you just live your life?


Yeah no kidding...

I don't get these people anymore.  What kind of demented freak do you have to be to use a groups shopping habits as a justification of the GENOCIDE of over 7 billion individuals?  A joke's a farking joke but good god man...
 
2014-05-04 01:42:33 PM  

letrole: havana_joe: He (I assume he's a he) posts that list all over Fark- don't fall for it man! Note the name- "Letrole" = Le Troll = The Troll

My surname is Le Trôle.


Well, it's fitting if all you are going to do is troll with the same list. Honestly, I can see where it may have even been a good list once, but every time you use it the list loses credibility. You can do better!
 
2014-05-04 01:43:09 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 01:43:12 PM  

letrole: havana_joe: He (I assume he's a he) posts that list all over Fark- don't fall for it man! Note the name- "Letrole" = Le Troll = The Troll

My surname is Le Trôle.


Trolling is a religion.
 
2014-05-04 01:43:18 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: darch: This lipid-laden list isn't about subby being a hipster or "not liking what" you, the Perfect Farker "doesn't like", Or being "smug". It's about this country being an overweight, ignorant, corny embarrassment.

Enjoy your Type-2 diabetes, Average American standing in line at Taco Bell.

Bullshait, it's about companies not willing to pay their employees more, so people eat where they can afford to.


Fast food is expensive as fark.  I can get lunch for $5 worth of makin's from the deli or $15 worth of crap from McTaco King.  Ten bucks a day times 250 work days a year equals a surprising amount of money for minimal extra work.
 
2014-05-04 01:43:37 PM  

grumpfuff: Read his handle. He posts that list in lots of topics: "People who X are also likely to:". Just ignore the sad, boring troll.


If by ignore, you mean fully quote the whole offending post whilst demonstrating your own interest, thus skirting the filter of anyone who (quite unlikely) had me on ignore, then perhaps you haven't thought your cunning plan completely through.
 
2014-05-04 01:45:06 PM  

grumpfuff: Trolling is a religion.


please stop this now, i am so desperately wanting you to quit


i will contact the mods and register a formal complaint
 
2014-05-04 01:45:38 PM  

DonkeyDixon: T-Servo: This reminds me of smug Canadians who spurn Tim Horton's, claiming that the coffee is just generic swill.

Anyone who denies the delicious beauty of Timmy Ho's needs to shut their whore mouth


The last time I visited a Tim Horton's, the chili had banana slices in it.

You have to be some kind of special to think that bananas in chili is a good idea.
 
2014-05-04 01:46:41 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 01:47:14 PM  

letrole: grumpfuff: Trolling is a religion.

please stop this now, i am so desperately wanting you to quit


i will contact the mods and register a formal complaint


Religion is a surname.
 
2014-05-04 01:47:59 PM  

letrole: grumpfuff: Trolling is a religion.

please stop this now, i am so desperately wanting you to quit


i will contact the mods and register a formal complaint


p.gr-assets.com
 
2014-05-04 01:48:45 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 01:49:48 PM  

born_yesterday: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: It's not your imagination. Eating healthy is more expensive, study says.

You were saying?

The GF and I have been making a lot of effort to eat healthier, and I have to agree 100%.  Fruits and vegetables cost a ridiculous amount per pound when compared to fast food (hence my celery joke), and in addition require a significant amount of meal planning to keep costs reasonable.


Once it becomes routine it will be easier and you will feel better, and save money. Really.
Example
Roast chicken for dinner. Enjoy with your choice of sides.
Left over meat can be used to toss with pasta, spinach, garlic, cheese, etc for another meal or used to make sandwiches for lunch. Chicken carcass in crockpot with water, leftover veg, spices will make a great stock or a base for soup that can be frozen.
Simple really.
 
2014-05-04 01:49:55 PM  

JoieD'Zen: I manage to get through life without frequenting any of those places. Am I missing something?


Having your lifestyle choices spat on by pretentious elitist blowhards?


i60.tinypic.com
 
2014-05-04 01:52:38 PM  

letrole: Anyone who feigns disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac also tends to:


Enjoying the Big Mac's secret sauce is a learned behaviour.
 
2014-05-04 01:53:07 PM  

grumpfuff: Religion is a surname.


stop emailing me, stop texting me, and stop driving past my house playing that ghastly dance music that is so popular with the young people these days

i know it's you, just stop it now
 
2014-05-04 01:53:15 PM  
www.funnysigns.net
 
2014-05-04 01:53:32 PM  

jjorsett: JoieD'Zen: I manage to get through life without frequenting any of those places. Am I missing something?

Having your lifestyle choices spat on by pretentious elitist blowhards?
[i60.tinypic.com image 400x309]


Ok, I'll bite
 I didn't spit on their choices. I merely asked if I was missing anything.
Do simple statements confuse you?
Are you so insecure that you are threatened by people that make different choices?
 
2014-05-04 01:53:44 PM  
This may well be the fattest thread in the history of Fark.
 
2014-05-04 01:55:52 PM  
funnyanimalpictures.funnypicturesutopia.com
 
2014-05-04 01:56:31 PM  

letrole: grumpfuff: Religion is a surname.

stop emailing me, stop texting me, and stop driving past my house playing that ghastly dance music that is so popular with the young people these days

i know it's you, just stop it now


People with surnames also tend to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Drink microbrewery beer
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers
 
2014-05-04 01:56:50 PM  

12349876: Enjoying the Big Mac's secret sauce is a learned behaviour.


just stop changing your name, like that will do any good


i've notified the constable, he shall call round soon for a quick chat
 
2014-05-04 01:58:12 PM  

Mister Peejay: DarkSoulNoHope: darch: This lipid-laden list isn't about subby being a hipster or "not liking what" you, the Perfect Farker "doesn't like", Or being "smug". It's about this country being an overweight, ignorant, corny embarrassment.

Enjoy your Type-2 diabetes, Average American standing in line at Taco Bell.

Bullshait, it's about companies not willing to pay their employees more, so people eat where they can afford to.

Fast food is expensive as fark.  I can get lunch for $5 worth of makin's from the deli or $15 worth of crap from McTaco King.  Ten bucks a day times 250 work days a year equals a surprising amount of money for minimal extra work.


How the hell does someone spend $15 on one meal at a fast food joint?  I hit up McDs or Taco Bell and I get 1/3 of my daily caloric intake for less than $3.
 
2014-05-04 01:58:40 PM  

grumpfuff: People with surnames also tend to:


oh, that doesn't even make any sense


just more evidence i shall present
 
2014-05-04 01:59:20 PM  

letrole: 12349876: Enjoying the Big Mac's secret sauce is a learned behaviour.

just stop changing your name, like that will do any good


i've notified the constable, he shall call round soon for a quick chat


I enjoy your posts. There is an old movie reference in this one and it escapes me now.
 
2014-05-04 02:00:50 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 02:02:39 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 02:05:21 PM  

Destructor: Wow. That list is the least surprising list in the history of lists. They're popular because they deliver the best value to the customer. How do I know that?

Capitalism, biatches. It works.


Capitalism works via advertising campaigns, brand loyalty, supply chain control, etc, but the intended image is of unprecedented value and fair, consistent quality. Capitalism doesn't always produce these results, but sometimes does, to some degree, give what is an acceptable balance of them. The primary value of retail is in convenience, which is in the packaging, the diversity of product selection, and in the proximity of location, and of course, in that all-powerful suggestive sell/upsell.

These businesses often have a presence in areas where the competition has been placed in a stranglehold, (Walmart anyone?) and even persons who would often frequent the competing brands are driven to assess the fuel efficiency and time available to do so. The location may be closely related to the workplace, to which many cannot afford to commute over significant distances either, nor can they always trivially find work in a saturated workforce. Also, carpooling may neccessitate that a participant in the pool drives an additional vast distance on a daily basis, possibly invalidating much of the purpose of doing so. So, location, at least to some degree, really "is everything".

Drink the KoolAid all you want. I do, too. Just acknowledge that it is what we're lapping up.
 
2014-05-04 02:10:18 PM  

Mister Peejay: DonkeyDixon: T-Servo: This reminds me of smug Canadians who spurn Tim Horton's, claiming that the coffee is just generic swill.

Anyone who denies the delicious beauty of Timmy Ho's needs to shut their whore mouth

The last time I visited a Tim Horton's, the chili had banana slices in it.

You have to be some kind of special to think that bananas in chili is a good idea.


Where the hell is the Timmies you get that at?
 
2014-05-04 02:12:00 PM  
Looks like Subby's upset that most Americans don't frequent his/her idea of an out of the way establishment that sells a good kombucha. Get over yourself, they still sell PBR in 7-11, don't they?
 
2014-05-04 02:12:39 PM  

JoieD'Zen: jjorsett: JoieD'Zen: I manage to get through life without frequenting any of those places. Am I missing something?

Having your lifestyle choices spat on by pretentious elitist blowhards?
[i60.tinypic.com image 400x309]

Ok, I'll bite
 I didn't spit on their choices. I merely asked if I was missing anything.
Do simple statements confuse you?
Are you so insecure that you are threatened by people that make different choices?


It was more of an opportunity to put in a dig at subby's trolling headline than your post. I actually didn't perceive your statement as coming down on one side or the other. People can live the way they want, but if like subby they also look down on others because they've made different choices, well, they should prepare for some feedback.
 
2014-05-04 02:13:31 PM  

Mister Peejay: DonkeyDixon: T-Servo: This reminds me of smug Canadians who spurn Tim Horton's, claiming that the coffee is just generic swill.

Anyone who denies the delicious beauty of Timmy Ho's needs to shut their whore mouth

The last time I visited a Tim Horton's, the chili had banana slices in it.

You have to be some kind of special to think that bananas in chili is a good idea.


ive been eating bananas with chili since grade school always gave me one when it was on the lunch menu.  whether you actually put it in the chili or simply take a bite of banana and a spoonful of chili at the same time, it's damn tasty.  but we also had the best damn school chili.  seriously, when they made it people would buy it in bulk from the school system just for their homes.  im 40 years old and had some of it about 5 years ago.  still the same mix and flavors I remember from the ages of 8 to 17.

school lunches back then meant something.

/never been to a Horton's
//lawn etc.
 
2014-05-04 02:13:45 PM  

strangeluck: Nothing wrong with the places in the article. If the author or subby doesn't like those places, well, they don't have to visit them.


Well, there are some problems with Walmart.

I wish there were CVS stores where I live to give Walgreens some competition.  Rite Aid is nice, but for some reason they don't have any pharmacies (you know, the actual pharmacy that can fill you prescription) open late.
 
2014-05-04 02:14:54 PM  

JoieD'Zen: born_yesterday: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: It's not your imagination. Eating healthy is more expensive, study says.

You were saying?

The GF and I have been making a lot of effort to eat healthier, and I have to agree 100%.  Fruits and vegetables cost a ridiculous amount per pound when compared to fast food (hence my celery joke), and in addition require a significant amount of meal planning to keep costs reasonable.

Once it becomes routine it will be easier and you will feel better, and save money. Really.
Example
Roast chicken for dinner. Enjoy with your choice of sides.
Left over meat can be used to toss with pasta, spinach, garlic, cheese, etc for another meal or used to make sandwiches for lunch. Chicken carcass in crockpot with water, leftover veg, spices will make a great stock or a base for soup that can be frozen.
Simple really.


No, you won't.  Healthy foods are more expensive.  That's not opinion, it's fact.  For example, your roast chicken?  That'll run you around $7 for one, maybe two meals, depending on the grocery store and size of the chicken.  Meanwhile, a loaf of cheap white bread, a jar of store-brand peanut butter, and some  flavored sugar paste jelly gets me around 7 or 8 meals for about $6.

I just don't get why people stand there and deny observable reality when it comes to the cost of eating healthy.  Shiat like Kraft Mac & Cheese is $69 a box, while that's what a single farking apple will cost me.  I can frequently get 10 meals worth of ramen for what it would cost to get a single meal's worth of frozen or fresh vegetables.  When you're dealing with families that have less than $1.50 per person per meal to spend, it's not possible for them to eat healthy, but they sure as hell can load up on the crap.  Hell, for a $1.50 per meal, you can hit McDonalds 3 times a day and get 2,000 calories.  That's impossible to do with healthy food at $1.50 per meal.
 
2014-05-04 02:17:27 PM  

letrole: i've notified the constable, he shall call round soon for a quick chat


Sorry, I'm busy in the drivethru waiting for my Big Mac value meal. Then I have to go to Walmart for some shopping.
 
2014-05-04 02:18:21 PM  

letrole: 12349876: Enjoying the Big Mac's secret sauce is a learned behaviour.

just stop changing your name, like that will do any good


i've notified the constable, he shall call round soon for a quick chat


Notifying the constable is a learned behaviour.
 
2014-05-04 02:18:27 PM  

Moderator: Sorry, I'm busy in the drivethru waiting for my Big Mac value meal. Then I have to go to Walmart for some shopping.



mu wa hah aha aha
 
2014-05-04 02:18:31 PM  

I created this alt just for this thread: As for #6, there are some that are convinced that a guy who claims to prefer small breasts is either lying in order to be non-conformist or secretly gay. So, no real problem with liking small breasts, just be aware that you will be judged by the mouth-breathers for it.


There is nothing wrong with small breasts if they are perky and attached to a woman who is happy to show them to you.  Large breasts can be appreciated regardless of the attitude or mode of dress of the woman carrying them around.
 
2014-05-04 02:18:33 PM  

Moderator: letrole: i've notified the constable, he shall call round soon for a quick chat

Sorry, I'm busy in the drivethru waiting for my Big Mac value meal. Then I have to go to Walmart for some shopping.


Then you have to go home and enjoy your wife's small breasts while listening to some vinyl and drinking craft beers?
 
2014-05-04 02:20:12 PM  

elbows_deep_silent_queef: Capitalism works via advertising campaigns, brand loyalty, supply chain control, etc, but the intended image is of unprecedented value and fair, consistent quality. Capitalism doesn't always produce these results, but sometimes does, to some degree, give what is an acceptable balance of them. The primary value of retail is in convenience, which is in the packaging, the diversity of product selection, and in the proximity of location, and of course, in that all-powerful suggestive sell/upsell.

These businesses often have a presence in areas where the competition has been placed in a stranglehold, (Walmart anyone?) and even persons who would often frequent the competing brands are driven to assess the fuel efficiency and time available to do so. The location may be closely related to the workplace, to which many cannot afford to commute over significant distances either, nor can they always trivially find work in a saturated workforce. Also, carpooling may neccessitate that a participant in the pool drives an additional vast distance on a daily basis, possibly invalidating much of the purpose of doing so. So, location, at least to some degree, really "is everything".

Drink the KoolAid all you want. I do, too. Just acknowledge that it is what we're lapping up.


s2.quickmeme.com

The things you mention are all positive by-products of capitalism at work bringing efficiency and success to the implementers. There are also a long string of failures that you seldom hear about. For example, companies that try to internally develop their own solutions to better compete, often lack the experience to do so adequately (in my experience, develop their own software).

As far as building stores go, that's an interesting story too. Sometimes a competing fast food store will build right next to another fast food store for the sole purpose of competing. (Capitalist version of trolling?) I don't quite get that, but it happens frequently. Winner? Consumers.

And as far as koolaid goes: Yeah. There are problems, nothing's perfect. But its pretty dang good compared to other systems. And my drink of choice? Refreshing Diet Coke Zero (ice cold). :-) (Also mixes good.)
 
2014-05-04 02:20:13 PM  

hitmanric: Mister Peejay: DonkeyDixon: T-Servo: This reminds me of smug Canadians who spurn Tim Horton's, claiming that the coffee is just generic swill.

Anyone who denies the delicious beauty of Timmy Ho's needs to shut their whore mouth

The last time I visited a Tim Horton's, the chili had banana slices in it.

You have to be some kind of special to think that bananas in chili is a good idea.

Where the hell is the Timmies you get that at?


This is what happens when all your staff are from third world countries.
 
2014-05-04 02:20:23 PM  

hitmanric: Mister Peejay: DonkeyDixon: T-Servo: This reminds me of smug Canadians who spurn Tim Horton's, claiming that the coffee is just generic swill.

Anyone who denies the delicious beauty of Timmy Ho's needs to shut their whore mouth

The last time I visited a Tim Horton's, the chili had banana slices in it.

You have to be some kind of special to think that bananas in chili is a good idea.

Where the hell is the Timmies you get that at?


I dunno, but I think this guy was in the kitchen

img.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 02:28:53 PM  

Destructor: As far as building stores go, that's an interesting story too. Sometimes a competing fast food store will build right next to another fast food store for the sole purpose of competing. (Capitalist version of trolling?) I don't quite get that, but it happens frequently. Winner? Consumers


Most people aren't willing to travel far for food unless it's exceptional so fast food places want to be where people are doing their everyday stuff, which means they all get right next to each other in the retail hubs.  And if you can't be the best, being next to the best allows you get some "the best place is too crowded" customers.
 
2014-05-04 02:31:15 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-04 02:37:38 PM  
Mickey D's plain coffee tastes like they burned the beans til the edges were charred.

It took me five sugars until I could drink it without wincing. And it still tasted burned.

That is some bottom of the gutter coffee, and I'm not that big a coffee snob at all.
 
2014-05-04 02:37:48 PM  

sendtodave: So, I read the list.  Seems about right.  The same convenience stores, fast food joints, and Walmarts that you see everywhere.

What did subby think would be popular, farmer's markets and vinyl record shops?

I bet if the stores that subby likes were popular, subby wouldn't like them anymore.


Does seem about right.

Slightly off-topic: it's a shame that mom n pop businesses of all kinds have become almost extinct. I sincerely miss those kinds of neighborhoods, most everything you needed right there.

/old
 
2014-05-04 02:40:27 PM  

grumpfuff: Moderator: letrole: i've notified the constable, he shall call round soon for a quick chat

Sorry, I'm busy in the drivethru waiting for my Big Mac value meal. Then I have to go to Walmart for some shopping.

Then you have to go home and enjoy your wife's small breasts while listening to some vinyl and drinking craft beers?


Fark is not your personal erotica site.

/ but yeah, that's kinda the plan for the afternoon
 
2014-05-04 02:53:08 PM  

Destructor: elbows_deep_silent_queef: Capitalism works via advertising campaigns, brand loyalty, supply chain control, etc, but the intended image is of unprecedented value and fair, consistent quality. Capitalism doesn't always produce these results, but sometimes does, to some degree, give what is an acceptable balance of them. The primary value of retail is in convenience, which is in the packaging, the diversity of product selection, and in the proximity of location, and of course, in that all-powerful suggestive sell/upsell.

These businesses often have a presence in areas where the competition has been placed in a stranglehold, (Walmart anyone?) and even persons who would often frequent the competing brands are driven to assess the fuel efficiency and time available to do so. The location may be closely related to the workplace, to which many cannot afford to commute over significant distances either, nor can they always trivially find work in a saturated workforce. Also, carpooling may neccessitate that a participant in the pool drives an additional vast distance on a daily basis, possibly invalidating much of the purpose of doing so. So, location, at least to some degree, really "is everything".

Drink the KoolAid all you want. I do, too. Just acknowledge that it is what we're lapping up.

[s2.quickmeme.com image 225x144]

The things you mention are all positive by-products of capitalism at work bringing efficiency and success to the implementers. There are also a long string of failures that you seldom hear about. For example, companies that try to internally develop their own solutions to better compete, often lack the experience to do so adequately (in my experience, develop their own software).

As far as building stores go, that's an interesting story too. Sometimes a competing fast food store will build right next to another fast food store for the sole purpose of competing. (Capitalist version of trolling?) I don't quite get that, but it happens frequently. Winne ...


Capitalism requires a market to have competition, once a market devolves into oligopoly you no longer have capitalism. None of the companies compete with each other in any real sense, yes Target and Walmart are both big box retailers but there's essentially zero chance that one will put the other out of business in 5 years. They essentially compete with each other at the scale of countries which is a pointless scale. Capitalistic competition must be at the smaller scale of a small group of humans to work. You can also tell from their pay scales that they aren't capitalistic companies; they're corporatists through and through and that's a thoroughly anti-capitalistic philosophy.
 
2014-05-04 02:54:13 PM  

lindalouwho: sendtodave: So, I read the list.  Seems about right.  The same convenience stores, fast food joints, and Walmarts that you see everywhere.

What did subby think would be popular, farmer's markets and vinyl record shops?

I bet if the stores that subby likes were popular, subby wouldn't like them anymore.

Does seem about right.

Slightly off-topic: it's a shame that mom n pop businesses of all kinds have become almost extinct. I sincerely miss those kinds of neighborhoods, most everything you needed right there.

/old


I'm amazingly lucky where I live.  There are several farms that sell meat and eggs, a dairy farm, and too many farmer's markets and CFOs to count.  There was a Five Guys that went under and now only a Subway on the main drag in town; every thing else is private non-chains that have to be excellent to compete.

/No, you wouldn't like it here
//Property values are low for the area, and I want them to stay that way
 
2014-05-04 02:54:39 PM  

Deedeemarz: Marshmallow Jones: Well considering there are far more of these McDonalds/BK etc restaurants than there are 'health food' restaurants, I dont know that any of this would be a surprise.

Having said that, Americans on the whole eat like slobs.

Note that the less money you make the more likely you are to eat at the fast food places: because restaurants that serve healthier fare also charge a higher price. And apparently people are too lazy to cook for themselves...


Then why are there McDonald's in many affluent areas if they're being supported mostly by poor people?

In downtown areas you see businessmen, gov'mnt buildings, lawyers having McDs in their weekly lunch rotation?

I'm just playing devil's advocate, but think that at this point it may have more to do with eating it a lot as a kid made a lot of people be loyal customers regardless of who you become and what your income is when your grown.

And I find the idea that monied people all/mostly eat healthy because they can afford it just a little silly. Life experience and the fact that monied people are not all walking around svelte and toned.

/just my opinion, man
 
2014-05-04 02:58:45 PM  

12349876: Most people aren't willing to travel far for food unless it's exceptional so fast food places want to be where people are doing their everyday stuff, which means they all get right next to each other in the retail hubs. And if you can't be the best, being next to the best allows you get some "the best place is too crowded" customers.


That explains it beautifully.

But take my niece. Sweet girl (oh my god, I was just thinking of her when she was 6. She's a freshmen in COLLEGE now... good god I'm old). McDonald's was actually something of a slight haul. But she would accept no substitute. Now that's a textbook example of successful targeted marketing.
 
2014-05-04 02:59:52 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: darch: Listen, I love a nice, sloppy burger just as much as the next red-blooded 'Murkin, but why is it that I somehow have managed to avoid setting foot in a McDonalds or Burger King in, say, 25 years? Because I find the food to be disgusting. Everyone knows it's utter garbage laden with chemicals and fillers, but they go anyway. It has nothing to do with "convenience"- there's small independent burger joints literally everywhere- it has EVERYTHING to do with Americans being willfully lazy and taking the path of least resistance.



Please, tell us all about those eeevil chemicals!!! in fast food.

Also, it has WAY less to do with Americans being "lazy" and a lot more to do with a whole lot of Americans being pretty damn poor.  Yeah, there are a number of local burger joints near me, but just one burger and a drink from one of those places would buy me a couple days worth of food at McDonalds or BK.  A good portion of the people in this country can't afford $10+ per person to eat out and that sure as hell isn't the result of them being lazy.


A lot of truth right there.

Health and value wise you get more bang for your buck with pizza. It's a very competative business. That breeds lower prices and constant specials.
 
2014-05-04 03:00:42 PM  

Kittypie070: Mickey D's plain coffee tastes like they burned the beans til the edges were charred.

It took me five sugars until I could drink it without wincing. And it still tasted burned.

That is some bottom of the gutter coffee, and I'm not that big a coffee snob at all.


sugar doesnt really help cover burnt flavor but cream does.  at least for me it does.
 
2014-05-04 03:02:52 PM  

Destructor: Does this really need to be said? Seriously? Again?

Okay, if you're fat (like me), eat less and exercise more. Is it really that much of a secret?

You can do this by using McDonalds or any fast food restaurant. Get a hamburger for $1 or 2. Skip the fries, get a glass of water.

Stop and think about that: That's a hell of a deal. For $2 you have an decent hot lunch.

Now, i if you need a sammich, you can't find a better value of dollars to calories in the modern world. I suggest you look into Wendy's Baconator.


A decent hot lunch?

What, are you about 2'8 and 45lbs?
 
2014-05-04 03:03:49 PM  
Some masterful trolling by Letrole, here. But really subby, did you expect that the most popular businesses in America  wouldn'tbe the ones that happen to be present in the thousands all over the damned country? It's almost a list by default.

/Any man who writes off small-breasted women clearly has yet to reach an age at which his potential romantic partners are affected by gravity. I'm not even in my mid-30s yet, and my reaction to large breasts at this point is now "Oh, her poor back."
 
2014-05-04 03:06:52 PM  

born_yesterday: lindalouwho: sendtodave: So, I read the list.  Seems about right.  The same convenience stores, fast food joints, and Walmarts that you see everywhere.

What did subby think would be popular, farmer's markets and vinyl record shops?

I bet if the stores that subby likes were popular, subby wouldn't like them anymore.

Does seem about right.

Slightly off-topic: it's a shame that mom n pop businesses of all kinds have become almost extinct. I sincerely miss those kinds of neighborhoods, most everything you needed right there.

/old

I'm amazingly lucky where I live.  There are several farms that sell meat and eggs, a dairy farm, and too many farmer's markets and CFOs to count.  There was a Five Guys that went under and now only a Subway on the main drag in town; every thing else is private non-chains that have to be excellent to compete.

/No, you wouldn't like it here
//Property values are low for the area, and I want them to stay that way


Oh but your wrong, I would like it there.
But I get why you don't want me/others/outsiders moving there. Trust that. Gentrification is great for the first 8-10yrs getting off the groung for the area natives.
But then....
 
2014-05-04 03:09:44 PM  
Teufelaffe:

How the hell does someone spend $15 on one meal at a fast food joint?  I hit up McDs or Taco Bell and I get 1/3 of my daily caloric intake for less than $3.

Taco Bell, the "big stuft" (or whatever the hell they are called now) are $5.50 each, a hard shell taco is $1.49, a large drink is $2.50.  That's $15 right there, and it's all empty food so you're still hungry after all that.

Fark that.

It's been a long time since I got lunch at McDs, but a couple McMuffins and a coffee on a weekend roadtrip is a $10 proposition.
 
2014-05-04 03:11:33 PM  

lindalouwho: Destructor: Does this really need to be said? Seriously? Again?

Okay, if you're fat (like me), eat less and exercise more. Is it really that much of a secret?

You can do this by using McDonalds or any fast food restaurant. Get a hamburger for $1 or 2. Skip the fries, get a glass of water.

Stop and think about that: That's a hell of a deal. For $2 you have an decent hot lunch.

Now, i if you need a sammich, you can't find a better value of dollars to calories in the modern world. I suggest you look into Wendy's Baconator.

A decent hot lunch?

What, are you about 2'8 and 45lbs?


Well. That there is how you fail in reading comprehension on a grand scale, folks.

/can't even explain it
//stroke?
///nah, me
 
2014-05-04 03:11:53 PM  

JoieD'Zen: I manage to get through life without frequenting any of those places. Am I missing something?


Men in red woolen shirts getting incredible kicks from things you'll never know.
 
2014-05-04 03:20:18 PM  

rwdavis: Capitalism requires a market to have competition


Yes! that's a requirement.

rwdavis: None of the companies compete with each other in any real sense, yes Target and Walmart are both big box retailers but there's essentially zero chance that one will put the other out of business in 5 years. They essentially compete with each other at the scale of countries which is a pointless scale.


You make an important point, and I understand where you're coming from... But I've seen no evidence of it (yet). Target and Walmart are at each others throat. I don't think you could find a better comparison. Same w/McDonalds / subway / Taco Bell. We live in the golden age of the Breakfast Wars right now.

Small guys can compete and grow. There are many examples... Culvers, Sonic, etc. They're growing nicely. Some, not so much... I heard that Portillos is looking for a buyer. (These are regional fast food stores, except Sonic, which I think is about everywhere now.)

(BTW, Taco Bel, Pizza Hut, KFC are all owned by the same company, YUM)

What should frighten EVERYONE is that the big companies can buy political influence, and make competing harder for little companies. Some will point to Sarbox as an example of this.

rwdavis: You can also tell from their pay scales that they aren't capitalistic companies; they're corporatists through and through and that's a thoroughly anti-capitalistic philosophy.


These are retail stores employing (hopefully) unskilled labor; not Abbott Labs or Texas Instruments. So yeah, they don't employee lots of high wage earners. But they do employee people. I'll take what I can get.
 
2014-05-04 03:22:43 PM  
Until these stores top the list:  American Apparel;Heartbreaker;Hot Topic,we needn't nuke ourselves. Since it's just a list of companies that rely on a business model of high volumes of sales....yawn.
 
2014-05-04 03:23:05 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: JoieD'Zen: born_yesterday: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: It's not your imagination. Eating healthy is more expensive, study says.

You were saying?

The GF and I have been making a lot of effort to eat healthier, and I have to agree 100%.  Fruits and vegetables cost a ridiculous amount per pound when compared to fast food (hence my celery joke), and in addition require a significant amount of meal planning to keep costs reasonable.

Once it becomes routine it will be easier and you will feel better, and save money. Really.
Example
Roast chicken for dinner. Enjoy with your choice of sides.
Left over meat can be used to toss with pasta, spinach, garlic, cheese, etc for another meal or used to make sandwiches for lunch. Chicken carcass in crockpot with water, leftover veg, spices will make a great stock or a base for soup that can be frozen.
Simple really.

No, you won't.  Healthy foods are more expensive.  That's not opinion, it's fact.  For example, your roast chicken?  That'll run you around $7 for one, maybe two meals, depending on the grocery store and size of the chicken.  Meanwhile, a loaf of cheap white bread, a jar of store-brand peanut butter, and some  flavored sugar paste jelly gets me around 7 or 8 meals for about $6.

I just don't get why people stand there and deny observable reality when it comes to the cost of eating healthy.  Shiat like Kraft Mac & Cheese is $69 a box, while that's what a single farking apple will cost me.  I can frequently get 10 meals worth of ramen for what it would cost to get a single meal's worth of frozen or fresh vegetables.  When you're dealing with families that have less than $1.50 per person per meal to spend, it's not possible for them to eat healthy, but they sure as hell can load up on the crap.  Hell, for a $1.50 per meal, you can hit McDonalds 3 times a day and get 2,000 calories.  That's impossible to do with healthy food at $1.50 per meal.


You need to move.  Here in Florida I  can get

1. Bag of 12 apples or pears for 5 bucks.
2. Bag of 12 oranges for 3.
3. 3. lbs onions 1.50.
4. Bananas 33 cents a pound. Six Bananas for a buck.
5. 6 ears of fresh corn for 2
6. 1.99 for a 5lb bag of potatos
7. 20 lbs of rice for 5 dollars.
8. 18 large eggs for 1.88
9. Pinto Beans 32 oz 2.88
9. Lima Beans  32.0z 2.88
10. 1 lb of ground meat 3 a lb
11. 3lb bag of onions 1.99
12. Loaf of Bread 1.50
13.  2.lbs of spaghetti 2.50
12. Uncooked chicken 4.00

That is 40.11  cents worth of food.  Note that the rice, spaghetti, and onions can be used over a two week period.  If you can get three healthy meals a week out of that you are insane.

You can definitely eat well and cheap.
 
2014-05-04 03:24:14 PM  

lindalouwho: A decent hot lunch?

What, are you about 2'8 and 45lbs?



www.hwdyk.com
There are lots of reasons to eat: Hunger, Boredom,
Wanting to be the world's fattest man.
 
2014-05-04 03:27:53 PM  

jtown: JoieD'Zen: I manage to get through life without frequenting any of those places. Am I missing something?

Men in red woolen shirts getting incredible kicks from things you'll never know.


Are they behind narrow doors in bars?
 
2014-05-04 03:28:23 PM  

lindalouwho: Deedeemarz: Marshmallow Jones: Well considering there are far more of these McDonalds/BK etc restaurants than there are 'health food' restaurants, I dont know that any of this would be a surprise.

Having said that, Americans on the whole eat like slobs.

Note that the less money you make the more likely you are to eat at the fast food places: because restaurants that serve healthier fare also charge a higher price. And apparently people are too lazy to cook for themselves...

Then why are there McDonald's in many affluent areas if they're being supported mostly by poor people?

In downtown areas you see businessmen, gov'mnt buildings, lawyers having McDs in their weekly lunch rotation?

I'm just playing devil's advocate, but think that at this point it may have more to do with eating it a lot as a kid made a lot of people be loyal customers regardless of who you become and what your income is when your grown.

And I find the idea that monied people all/mostly eat healthy because they can afford it just a little silly. Life experience and the fact that monied people are not all walking around svelte and toned.

/just my opinion, man


If you go into Walmart and compare the patrons to those of a high end store like Publix or Whole foods, you will most definitely  see the difference in size of the patrons.
 
2014-05-04 03:32:57 PM  

Destructor: lindalouwho: A decent hot lunch?

What, are you about 2'8 and 45lbs?



There are lots of reasons to eat: Hunger, Boredom,
Wanting to be the world's fattest man.


I get that. Did you see my post after that copping to failing at reading comprehension? Somehow missed that you were losing weight. So I only answered to dollar meal being a decent meal.

*hangs head in shame*
 
2014-05-04 03:35:03 PM  
What?  No Saks Fifth Avenue, Prada or De Beers?  Then America has turned into a classless, cultureless toilet.
 
2014-05-04 03:35:49 PM  

theflatline: If you go into Walmart and compare the patrons to those of a high end store like Publix or Whole foods, you will most definitely see the difference in size of the patrons.


There's a store here in the Midwest called Meijer. This was me entering it for the first time:

cse1.net

It makes WalMart look like a street corner convenience store. You could fit about 2 WalMarts in it. They aren't as convenient, because there are fewer of them, but WOW. Competition is alive and well in general retail.
 
2014-05-04 03:37:04 PM  

lindalouwho: I get that. Did you see my post after that copping to failing at reading comprehension? Somehow missed that you were losing weight. So I only answered to dollar meal being a decent meal.

*hangs head in shame*


Any chance I get to post a Futurama reference is a win. :-)
 
2014-05-04 03:43:25 PM  

theflatline: lindalouwho: Deedeemarz: Marshmallow Jones: Well considering there are far more of these McDonalds/BK etc restaurants than there are 'health food' restaurants, I dont know that any of this would be a surprise.

Having said that, Americans on the whole eat like slobs.

Note that the less money you make the more likely you are to eat at the fast food places: because restaurants that serve healthier fare also charge a higher price. And apparently people are too lazy to cook for themselves...

Then why are there McDonald's in many affluent areas if they're being supported mostly by poor people?

In downtown areas you see businessmen, gov'mnt buildings, lawyers having McDs in their weekly lunch rotation?

I'm just playing devil's advocate, but think that at this point it may have more to do with eating it a lot as a kid made a lot of people be loyal customers regardless of who you become and what your income is when your grown.

And I find the idea that monied people all/mostly eat healthy because they can afford it just a little silly. Life experience and the fact that monied people are not all walking around svelte and toned.

/just my opinion, man

If you go into Walmart and compare the patrons to those of a high end store like Publix or Whole foods, you will most definitely  see the difference in size of the patrons.


Huh? I have friends and family who make over 125k and shpo at Walmart. People like bargains, income mostly not a factor.

People also get what they want and like from Whole Foods if they can afford it. Why would that exclude them from also getting things from Walmart? Rare to hear someone these days imply they are too good for Walmart. Only takes a cruise around the parking lots to see many cars that deffinitely weren't purchased by poor people.
 
2014-05-04 03:46:08 PM  

Destructor: lindalouwho: I get that. Did you see my post after that copping to failing at reading comprehension? Somehow missed that you were losing weight. So I only answered to dollar meal being a decent meal.

*hangs head in shame*

Any chance I get to post a Futurama reference is a win. :-)


Gee you're swell!

That won't ruin your reputation as Destructor, will it?
 
2014-05-04 03:47:37 PM  
Chains get more traffic because, gasp, they're  chains.  If there are a thousand Taco Bells and five "Some Other Taco Place"s, Taco Bell is going to beat out Some Other Taco Place.

Duh.

Really, duh.

This has nothing to do with OMG america is fat or OMG america is broke or whatever.

/granted, america IS fat and broke, and fast food has a lot to with that, but the causality can't go both ways.
 
2014-05-04 03:47:56 PM  

lindalouwho: Gee you're swell!
That won't ruin your reputation as Destructor, will it?


Unpossible!
 
2014-05-04 03:48:48 PM  

lindalouwho: Destructor: lindalouwho: I get that. Did you see my post after that copping to failing at reading comprehension? Somehow missed that you were losing weight. So I only answered to dollar meal being a decent meal.

*hangs head in shame*

Any chance I get to post a Futurama reference is a win. :-)

Gee you're swell!

That won't ruin your reputation as Destructor, will it?


lulling you into complacent friendliness is the Destructor con.  he's more than meets the eye.
 
2014-05-04 03:49:25 PM  

Dafatone: /granted, america IS fat and broke, and fast food has a lot to with that, but the causality can't go both ways.


Well, the fat part. It's shockingly easy to get fat on a tight budget. Guess how I know. :-)
 
2014-05-04 03:53:38 PM  

The Flexecutioner: lulling you into complacent friendliness is the Destructor con. he's more than meets the eye.


I simply deallocate used memory and return it to the heap. It's my day job. Sometimes, if it's managed business, call a Disposal function...
 
2014-05-04 03:55:56 PM  

theflatline: lindalouwho: Deedeemarz: Marshmallow Jones: Well considering there are far more of these McDonalds/BK etc restaurants than there are 'health food' restaurants, I dont know that any of this would be a surprise.

Having said that, Americans on the whole eat like slobs.

Note that the less money you make the more likely you are to eat at the fast food places: because restaurants that serve healthier fare also charge a higher price. And apparently people are too lazy to cook for themselves...

Then why are there McDonald's in many affluent areas if they're being supported mostly by poor people?

In downtown areas you see businessmen, gov'mnt buildings, lawyers having McDs in their weekly lunch rotation?

I'm just playing devil's advocate, but think that at this point it may have more to do with eating it a lot as a kid made a lot of people be loyal customers regardless of who you become and what your income is when your grown.

And I find the idea that monied people all/mostly eat healthy because they can afford it just a little silly. Life experience and the fact that monied people are not all walking around svelte and toned.

/just my opinion, man

If you go into Walmart and compare the patrons to those of a high end store like Publix or Whole foods, you will most definitely  see the difference in size of the patrons.


Oh wait.

If?

Got any 'splainin' bout that one?
Do you imagine I live, oh I dunno.....on the moon since birth? So I've never been to any stores?

/jk

//I'm missing too much today myself to joke like that lol
//2 hrs sleep
 
2014-05-04 04:01:52 PM  

Waldo Pepper: letrole: Anyone who feigns disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Drink microbrewery beer
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers

what's wrong with #4 and #6?


Wow... same ol' lure keeps getting bites.  Reminds me of when my Uncle Nick would catch pike with a hunk of nylon rope and some treble hooks.
 
2014-05-04 04:08:29 PM  
eat at in, subby?
Are you serious?
 
2014-05-04 04:11:43 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: darch: This lipid-laden list isn't about subby being a hipster or "not liking what" you, the Perfect Farker "doesn't like", Or being "smug". It's about this country being an overweight, ignorant, corny embarrassment.

Enjoy your Type-2 diabetes, Average American standing in line at Taco Bell.

fark you. Taco Bell is awesome in that once every two months window when the craving hits and nothing but two burrito supremes and a box of tacos will do.

And yeah, I will enjoy my Type-2 diabetes. You enjoy your farking kale and spinach smoothie, asshole.


Typical Fark and American bipolarity on display here.
 
2014-05-04 04:12:24 PM  
Subby is very wrong.  Tacos like those are what I enjoy very much.  Haven't tried the places in Atlanta yet, I should leave the house more.
 
2014-05-04 04:17:51 PM  

Destructor: It makes WalMart look like a street corner convenience store. You could fit about 2 WalMarts in it. They aren't as convenient, because there are fewer of them, but WOW. Competition is alive and well in general retail.


Grew up with Meijer's.  When I was a kid the one near us still called itself Meijer's Thrifty Acres, and the name fit.  That place was (and still is) huge.
 
2014-05-04 04:21:52 PM  

Fark like a Barsoomian: Wealthier consumers, on the other hand - those earning more than $100,000 - were more likely to visit 7-Eleven.

You're telling me there aren't ritzier places to get three day old powdered donuts? Doesn't Neiman Marcus airlift you three day old donuts - powdered with Napoleon's dandruff, nothing less - within a hour or your Lexus back?


The problem with 7-eleven is that almost everything in the place is priced higher than basically anywhere else. People buy there purely for convenience because there are so damn many of them. Only rich people can afford the luxury of sacrificing value for convenience on a regular basis.
 
2014-05-04 04:28:29 PM  
Never shopped in a WalMart. There just isnt one here in NYC.
 
2014-05-04 04:31:56 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: They've done well for themselves, certainly. But calling it capitalism is a stretch.


THIS. True capitalism is when all parties in the transaction are "fully informed actors", with all the information pertaining to the deal. That's not what we have here in this country, and why there are so many people with THE DIABEETUS rolling around on HoverrRounds. If more people knew exactly what was in the food they ate from these places as well as what it could do to them it would scare the living sh*t out of them, and is exactly what these corporations don't want to happen. The corporations hold all the cards, and spend millions lobbying government to make sure it stays that way.

tl;dr - just because something or someplace is "popular" doesn't mean that it's good.
 
2014-05-04 04:33:21 PM  

theflatline: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: JoieD'Zen: born_yesterday: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: It's not your imagination. Eating healthy is more expensive, study says.

You were saying?

The GF and I have been making a lot of effort to eat healthier, and I have to agree 100%.  Fruits and vegetables cost a ridiculous amount per pound when compared to fast food (hence my celery joke), and in addition require a significant amount of meal planning to keep costs reasonable.

Once it becomes routine it will be easier and you will feel better, and save money. Really.
Example
Roast chicken for dinner. Enjoy with your choice of sides.
Left over meat can be used to toss with pasta, spinach, garlic, cheese, etc for another meal or used to make sandwiches for lunch. Chicken carcass in crockpot with water, leftover veg, spices will make a great stock or a base for soup that can be frozen.
Simple really.

No, you won't.  Healthy foods are more expensive.  That's not opinion, it's fact.  For example, your roast chicken?  That'll run you around $7 for one, maybe two meals, depending on the grocery store and size of the chicken.  Meanwhile, a loaf of cheap white bread, a jar of store-brand peanut butter, and some  flavored sugar paste jelly gets me around 7 or 8 meals for about $6.

I just don't get why people stand there and deny observable reality when it comes to the cost of eating healthy.  Shiat like Kraft Mac & Cheese is $69 a box, while that's what a single farking apple will cost me.  I can frequently get 10 meals worth of ramen for what it would cost to get a single meal's worth of frozen or fresh vegetables.  When you're dealing with families that have less than $1.50 per person per meal to spend, it's not possible for them to eat healthy, but they sure as hell can load up on the crap.  Hell, for a $1.50 per meal, you can hit McDonalds 3 times a day and get 2,000 calories.  That's impossible to do with healthy food at $1.50 per meal.

You need to move.  Here in Florida I  can get

1 ...


and you need to stop shopping at American style supermarkets. The mark-up on fresh at those places is highway robbery.

Pro-tip: 1) Find the asian grocery with the best reputation in your area. 2) Figure out when the fresh produce truck comes in. 3) Ignore the smell. 4) Buy a weeks worth of fresh produce for 15 bucks. Eating healthy IS cheaper. Just change where you shop.
 
2014-05-04 04:35:21 PM  

The Flexecutioner: Kittypie070: Mickey D's plain coffee tastes like they burned the beans til the edges were charred.

It took me five sugars until I could drink it without wincing. And it still tasted burned.

That is some bottom of the gutter coffee, and I'm not that big a coffee snob at all.


sugar doesnt really help cover burnt flavor but cream does.  at least for me it does.


The buggers din't have any cream there. Thanks for the advice though :)

Would our dear Mod like a pair of Boobies?

accessdanceforlife.com
 
2014-05-04 04:38:58 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Shiat like Kraft Mac & Cheese is $69 a box, while that's what a single farking apple will cost me.


Is that figure in Zimbabwean dollars?
 
2014-05-04 05:00:59 PM  

Destructor: The Flexecutioner: lulling you into complacent friendliness is the Destructor con. he's more than meets the eye.

I simply deallocate used memory and return it to the heap. It's my day job. Sometimes, if it's managed business, call a Disposal function...


THAT'S Why I can't remember anything today - you've thrown my memory into a heap!

Flex was right!

Well, I'll find it and then I'll get you, my pretty.

Pffft. And you thought I lived in Whoville.

Who is conning who?

/who
 
2014-05-04 05:10:30 PM  

rewind2846: True capitalism is when all parties in the transaction are "fully informed actors", with all the information pertaining to the deal.


Says who? Capitalism doesn't require full knowledge of anything. All it requires is the non-coerced participation of two or more parties acting in their own interest for their own gain.

If I give you $2 for burger, you don't need to know where the money came from, or what I plan to do with the burger, and I'm not interested in what your "Secret Sauce" contains (so long as it lives up to regulations). If I want to know more, I can certainly ask, and then act based on what you care to divulge (if anything).

rewind2846: That's not what we have here in this country, and why there are so many people with THE DIABEETUS rolling around on HoverrRounds. If more people knew exactly what was in the food they ate from these places as well as what it could do to them it would scare the living sh*t out of them, and is exactly what these corporations don't want to happen.


I hope I'm not being presumptuous here, but this seems like an actual rejection of Free Market Capitalism. If I want to acquire DIABEETUS, what right do you have to stop me? Why is it your responsibility to stop me? There is no "command and control" with Capitalism. It's all about each party acting in their best interests.

rewind2846: The corporations hold all the cards, and spend millions lobbying government to make sure it stays that way.


Whose government? The corporations can't vote. People can, though. I would suggest that if you want to find fault with the system, it should be to find a way to educate voters about this, not tell them what agreements to enter into with businesses.

rewind2846: tl;dr - just because something or someplace is "popular" doesn't mean that it's good.


The people have spoken. And they have said, "Supersize it."
 
2014-05-04 05:10:43 PM  
This is how you troll in a headline people. And I was giving up hope for Fark...

/internet high five for Subby
 
2014-05-04 05:12:39 PM  

lindalouwho: THAT'S Why I can't remember anything today - you've thrown my memory into a heap!

Flex was right!

Well, I'll find it and then I'll get you, my pretty.

Pffft. And you thought I lived in Whoville.

Who is conning who?

/who


Curses! Foiled again by Flex and his WORM drive... :-)
 
2014-05-04 05:22:16 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 05:22:52 PM  

lindalouwho: Deedeemarz: Marshmallow Jones: Well considering there are far more of these McDonalds/BK etc restaurants than there are 'health food' restaurants, I dont know that any of this would be a surprise.

Having said that, Americans on the whole eat like slobs.

Note that the less money you make the more likely you are to eat at the fast food places: because restaurants that serve healthier fare also charge a higher price. And apparently people are too lazy to cook for themselves...

Then why are there McDonald's in many affluent areas if they're being supported mostly by poor people?

In downtown areas you see businessmen, gov'mnt buildings, lawyers having McDs in their weekly lunch rotation?

I'm just playing devil's advocate, but think that at this point it may have more to do with eating it a lot as a kid made a lot of people be loyal customers regardless of who you become and what your income is when your grown.

And I find the idea that monied people all/mostly eat healthy because they can afford it just a little silly. Life experience and the fact that monied people are not all walking around svelte and toned.

/just my opinion, man


It is the article that said dude. Calm your tits.
And I would expect that a lot of the business in affluent areas is made up of kids with disposable income who get decent food at home (that is what I see in my neighborhood) not families trying to feed an actual meal.
 
2014-05-04 05:26:24 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 05:35:04 PM  

plcow: It would be interesting if they could normalize it by dividing the total number of visits by the total square footage of all stores.

So you get a total number of customers per square foot.  That would allow really popular single stores to compete for spots on the list and you would truly get the "most popular stores in America"


That would be a great idea - show the popularity of some of the smaller or more regional chains, at least.

I like an Egg McMuffin from McD's in the morning on a road trip, but not so fond of the afternoon menu.
 
2014-05-04 05:38:19 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 05:41:45 PM  
I don't see the problem submitter is crying about.  They are a normal, decent stores.  If you don't want to shop at them then don't.  Either way, stfu and myob.
 
2014-05-04 05:44:17 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 05:46:25 PM  
circa 1970's
 
2014-05-04 05:47:24 PM  
I'll try again

Circa 1970's

img.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 05:56:58 PM  

steklo: I'll try again

Circa 1970's

[img.fark.net image 850x1000]


Who the hell doesn't put a shirt on a kid when going out?

White trash, that's who.
 
2014-05-04 05:59:16 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: A good portion of the people in this country can't afford $10+ per person to eat out and that sure as hell isn't the result of them being lazy.


But, but ... I've been assured that poor people are poor because they are lazy.  If they weren't lazy, they'd all be wealthy.  I think this is called Lake Wobegon economics.
 
2014-05-04 06:01:10 PM  

lindalouwho: theflatline: lindalouwho: Deedeemarz: Marshmallow Jones: Well considering there are far more of these McDonalds/BK etc restaurants than there are 'health food' restaurants, I dont know that any of this would be a surprise.

Having said that, Americans on the whole eat like slobs.

Note that the less money you make the more likely you are to eat at the fast food places: because restaurants that serve healthier fare also charge a higher price. And apparently people are too lazy to cook for themselves...

Then why are there McDonald's in many affluent areas if they're being supported mostly by poor people?

In downtown areas you see businessmen, gov'mnt buildings, lawyers having McDs in their weekly lunch rotation?

I'm just playing devil's advocate, but think that at this point it may have more to do with eating it a lot as a kid made a lot of people be loyal customers regardless of who you become and what your income is when your grown.

And I find the idea that monied people all/mostly eat healthy because they can afford it just a little silly. Life experience and the fact that monied people are not all walking around svelte and toned.

/just my opinion, man

If you go into Walmart and compare the patrons to those of a high end store like Publix or Whole foods, you will most definitely  see the difference in size of the patrons.

Oh wait.

If?

Got any 'splainin' bout that one?
Do you imagine I live, oh I dunno.....on the moon since birth? So I've never been to any stores?

/jk

//I'm missing too much today myself to joke like that lol
//2 hrs sleep


How many other stores have a site like people of walmart showcasing their shoppers?
 
2014-05-04 06:03:53 PM  

born_yesterday: steklo: I'll try again

Circa 1970's

[img.fark.net image 850x1000]

Who the hell doesn't put a shirt on a kid when going out?

White trash, that's who.


You noticed the lack of shirt, but not the gun in his hand?
 
2014-05-04 06:07:41 PM  

The_Fuzz: Who the hell doesn't put a shirt on a kid when going out?

White trash, that's who.

You noticed the lack of shirt, but not the gun in his hand?


In was the style of the time. Remember, you're only a few years from the late 60's (based on that photo).
 
2014-05-04 06:09:19 PM  

propasaurus: JoieD'Zen: I manage to get through life without frequenting any of those places. Am I missing something?

Your sense of smug self satisfaction? No, wait that seems to be intact.


Are you living off the grid?   Your parents raised you in a commune?   You live in a town of 1,800 people and never go anywhere else?
 
2014-05-04 06:09:38 PM  

darch: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: darch: Listen, I love a nice, sloppy burger just as much as the next red-blooded 'Murkin, but why is it that I somehow have managed to avoid setting foot in a McDonalds or Burger King in, say, 25 years? Because I find the food to be disgusting. Everyone knows it's utter garbage laden with chemicals and fillers, but they go anyway. It has nothing to do with "convenience"- there's small independent burger joints literally everywhere- it has EVERYTHING to do with Americans being willfully lazy and taking the path of least resistance.

[www.rigsofrods.com image 500x389]

Please, tell us all about those eeevil chemicals!!! in fast food.

Also, it has WAY less to do with Americans being "lazy" and a lot more to do with a whole lot of Americans being pretty damn poor.  Yeah, there are a number of local burger joints near me, but just one burger and a drink from one of those places would buy me a couple days worth of food at McDonalds or BK.  A good portion of the people in this country can't afford $10+ per person to eat out and that sure as hell isn't the result of them being lazy.

Make fun of me all you want but I categorically deny every single thing you just typed. Eating healthy isn't a)rocket science or b)that expensive. This whole "they're poor so they frequent fast food joints" is utter, 100% bullshiat. Sorry, that reasoning just doesn't wash.


You still haven't elaborated on the garbage, chemicals, and fillers in McDonald's and Burger King's food.
 
2014-05-04 06:12:29 PM  

JoieD'Zen: born_yesterday: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: It's not your imagination. Eating healthy is more expensive, study says.

You were saying?

The GF and I have been making a lot of effort to eat healthier, and I have to agree 100%.  Fruits and vegetables cost a ridiculous amount per pound when compared to fast food (hence my celery joke), and in addition require a significant amount of meal planning to keep costs reasonable.

Once it becomes routine it will be easier and you will feel better, and save money. Really.
Example
Roast chicken for dinner. Enjoy with your choice of sides.
Left over meat can be used to toss with pasta, spinach, garlic, cheese, etc for another meal or used to make sandwiches for lunch. Chicken carcass in crockpot with water, leftover veg, spices will make a great stock or a base for soup that can be frozen.
Simple really.


You can eat very well for very little money if you go that route, but even if you don't put much effort in at all you can cook for yourself and save a lot. For example, a box of hamburger helper and a pound of ground beef costs about $7.50, throw in a bag of frozen veggies for $2 and in 20 minutes you have a meal for at least two (unless you are both really big eaters) with more nutrition than what you could get for the same price at McDonald's. Less junk calories too.

If you have a grill, you can make about 4 burgers from a pound of ground beef, that's $2.50 or less (depending on the quality of the meat and how much you buy at once.) A little salt and pepper, some buns, lettuce, and a tomato, and you're still only looking at $3.50 per burger. Buy a bag of frozen french fries for another $3.50 (with around 4 servings) and you can get the same amount and type of food you would get at a fast food joint, but it will be healthier, cheaper, and taste better. The main difference is the extra time, but it's really only about 20 minutes, and that goes down if you make a bunch in advance and freeze them.
 
2014-05-04 06:15:29 PM  
What I'd like to see is (for example) what are the sales at all "non-chain pizzarias" put together?   Is that as a block bigger than any one other major chain (Pizza Hut, Papa Johns, Dominoes, etc)?

If so, then, that is good..... obviously those big names are going to be the big names.... they have thousands of locations.   Any one single or 2-3 location chain in a town pizza joint isn't going to match that obviously.  But, I'd like to think maybe all of the "local pizzarias" together nationwide as a whole outgain any chain... I might be wrong though.

I mean, I just think about the best local place near me... just picked up a double crust pizza yesterday for dinner, the dining room was packed, and there were 7 other people in the pick-up line... and where you pick up the pizza is where they are making the pizza's, I counted 11 people just there working (so, not including waitresses, bartenders, or other bus staff).

/unfortunately not open on Sundays, because Indiana
 
2014-05-04 06:32:54 PM  

kriegsgeist: JoieD'Zen: born_yesterday: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: It's not your imagination. Eating healthy is more expensive, study says.

You were saying?

The GF and I have been making a lot of effort to eat healthier, and I have to agree 100%.  Fruits and vegetables cost a ridiculous amount per pound when compared to fast food (hence my celery joke), and in addition require a significant amount of meal planning to keep costs reasonable.

Once it becomes routine it will be easier and you will feel better, and save money. Really.
Example
Roast chicken for dinner. Enjoy with your choice of sides.
Left over meat can be used to toss with pasta, spinach, garlic, cheese, etc for another meal or used to make sandwiches for lunch. Chicken carcass in crockpot with water, leftover veg, spices will make a great stock or a base for soup that can be frozen.
Simple really.

You can eat very well for very little money if you go that route, but even if you don't put much effort in at all you can cook for yourself and save a lot. For example, a box of hamburger helper and a pound of ground beef costs about $7.50, throw in a bag of frozen veggies for $2 and in 20 minutes you have a meal for at least two (unless you are both really big eaters) with more nutrition than what you could get for the same price at McDonald's. Less junk calories too.

If you have a grill, you can make about 4 burgers from a pound of ground beef, that's $2.50 or less (depending on the quality of the meat and how much you buy at once.) A little salt and pepper, some buns, lettuce, and a tomato, and you're still only looking at $3.50 per burger. Buy a bag of frozen french fries for another $3.50 (with around 4 servings) and you can get the same amount and type of food you would get at a fast food joint, but it will be healthier, cheaper, and taste better. The main difference is the extra time, but it's really only about 20 minutes, and that goes down if you make a bunch in advance and freeze them.


And you're now spending three times what it would cost to get the same calories at McDonalds.  I don't think people quite understand what really poor people do when they go to a place like McDonalds.  They don't get the Quarter Pounder, or the Big Mac (unless it's on sale), or one of those Angus burgers, they spend $0.89 on a cheeseburger or $1.19 on a McDouble.  For what you're spending on just one homemade burger, I can get a McDouble, Value size fry, and a 32oz soda.

I'm willing to bet that none of these "oh, you can totally eat healthy cheaper than crap food" people have never had to survive on a $10/week food budget.  I have, and crap food was the only shiat I could afford.  A 12 pack of ramen ($2), a loaf of shiatty white bread ($1), store-brand peanut butter ($2), and a couple bags of frozen mixed veggies for mixing with the ramen ($4) will feed a person for a week (that's ~$0.42 per meal in case you were wondering)  I challenge you to provide 3 healthy meals a day at $0.42 each.  You can't do it.

It's a simple fact, eating healthy is currently more expensive than eating crappy.
 
2014-05-04 06:42:16 PM  
I'm surprised Subway and Taco Bell are so high.

I would have thought Apple and some other chain restaurant not on the list would have been there. Or maybe Dunkin Donuts.
 
2014-05-04 06:46:49 PM  
Subby needs to grow a pair, quit farking crying and get over it, hipster.
 
2014-05-04 06:47:39 PM  

The_Fuzz: born_yesterday: steklo: I'll try again

Circa 1970's

[img.fark.net image 850x1000]

Who the hell doesn't put a shirt on a kid when going out?

White trash, that's who.

You noticed the lack of shirt, but not the gun in his hand?


Back then, we weren't brain-dead enough to think that's a real gun. These days, some rent-a-cop with a room temperature I.Q. would gun down half the people in that photo and get a promotion for doing so.
 
2014-05-04 07:01:36 PM  

Kurmudgeon: CVS sucks, Rite Aid for the win!


Lol, check Consumer Reports. Both are at the bottom of consumer satisfaction surveys of patrons of retail pharmacies. Independents consistently provide much better service.
 
2014-05-04 07:05:49 PM  

JoieD'Zen: I manage to get through life without frequenting any of those places. Am I missing something?


No because neither do most Americans.. it just depends on what your frequency of 'not frequenting' means. I go to WM maybe once every couple of months and McDonald's and Starbucks even less but it's still more frequent than say me going to the mall or some high end fine dining.
 
2014-05-04 07:08:40 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: kriegsgeist: JoieD'Zen: born_yesterday: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: It's not your imagination. Eating healthy is more expensive, study says.

You were saying?

The GF and I have been making a lot of effort to eat healthier, and I have to agree 100%.  Fruits and vegetables cost a ridiculous amount per pound when compared to fast food (hence my celery joke), and in addition require a significant amount of meal planning to keep costs reasonable.

Once it becomes routine it will be easier and you will feel better, and save money. Really.
Example
Roast chicken for dinner. Enjoy with your choice of sides.
Left over meat can be used to toss with pasta, spinach, garlic, cheese, etc for another meal or used to make sandwiches for lunch. Chicken carcass in crockpot with water, leftover veg, spices will make a great stock or a base for soup that can be frozen.
Simple really.

You can eat very well for very little money if you go that route, but even if you don't put much effort in at all you can cook for yourself and save a lot. For example, a box of hamburger helper and a pound of ground beef costs about $7.50, throw in a bag of frozen veggies for $2 and in 20 minutes you have a meal for at least two (unless you are both really big eaters) with more nutrition than what you could get for the same price at McDonald's. Less junk calories too.

If you have a grill, you can make about 4 burgers from a pound of ground beef, that's $2.50 or less (depending on the quality of the meat and how much you buy at once.) A little salt and pepper, some buns, lettuce, and a tomato, and you're still only looking at $3.50 per burger. Buy a bag of frozen french fries for another $3.50 (with around 4 servings) and you can get the same amount and type of food you would get at a fast food joint, but it will be healthier, cheaper, and taste better. The main difference is the extra time, but it's really only about 20 minutes, and that goes down if you make a bunch in advance and freeze them.

And yo ...


You moved the goal posts... You said a 1.50 a meal...
 
2014-05-04 07:23:03 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: kriegsgeist: JoieD'Zen: born_yesterday: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: It's not your imagination. Eating healthy is more expensive, study says.

You were saying?

The GF and I have been making a lot of effort to eat healthier, and I have to agree 100%.  Fruits and vegetables cost a ridiculous amount per pound when compared to fast food (hence my celery joke), and in addition require a significant amount of meal planning to keep costs reasonable.

Once it becomes routine it will be easier and you will feel better, and save money. Really.
Example
Roast chicken for dinner. Enjoy with your choice of sides.
Left over meat can be used to toss with pasta, spinach, garlic, cheese, etc for another meal or used to make sandwiches for lunch. Chicken carcass in crockpot with water, leftover veg, spices will make a great stock or a base for soup that can be frozen.
Simple really.

You can eat very well for very little money if you go that route, but even if you don't put much effort in at all you can cook for yourself and save a lot. For example, a box of hamburger helper and a pound of ground beef costs about $7.50, throw in a bag of frozen veggies for $2 and in 20 minutes you have a meal for at least two (unless you are both really big eaters) with more nutrition than what you could get for the same price at McDonald's. Less junk calories too.

If you have a grill, you can make about 4 burgers from a pound of ground beef, that's $2.50 or less (depending on the quality of the meat and how much you buy at once.) A little salt and pepper, some buns, lettuce, and a tomato, and you're still only looking at $3.50 per burger. Buy a bag of frozen french fries for another $3.50 (with around 4 servings) and you can get the same amount and type of food you would get at a fast food joint, but it will be healthier, cheaper, and taste better. The main difference is the extra time, but it's really only about 20 minutes, and that goes down if you make a bunch in advance and freeze them.

And yo ...


Actually, I challenge you to provide a meal at Mcdonalds for .42 cents...
 
2014-05-04 07:32:02 PM  

Deedeemarz: lindalouwho: Deedeemarz: Marshmallow Jones: Well considering there are far more of these McDonalds/BK etc restaurants than there are 'health food' restaurants, I dont know that any of this would be a surprise.

Having said that, Americans on the whole eat like slobs.

Note that the less money you make the more likely you are to eat at the fast food places: because restaurants that serve healthier fare also charge a higher price. And apparently people are too lazy to cook for themselves...

Then why are there McDonald's in many affluent areas if they're being supported mostly by poor people?

In downtown areas you see businessmen, gov'mnt buildings, lawyers having McDs in their weekly lunch rotation?

I'm just playing devil's advocate, but think that at this point it may have more to do with eating it a lot as a kid made a lot of people be loyal customers regardless of who you become and what your income is when your grown.

And I find the idea that monied people all/mostly eat healthy because they can afford it just a little silly. Life experience and the fact that monied people are not all walking around svelte and toned.

/just my opinion, man

It is the article that said dude. Calm your tits.
And I would expect that a lot of the business in affluent areas is made up of kids with disposable income who get decent food at home (that is what I see in my neighborhood) not families trying to feed an actual meal.


Shoot, was trying to say it was ONLY my opinion and you're entitled to yours - being flippant, not sarcastic. Tits were calm, could you point out what made you think they weren't? Too many things make the the "study" unreliable for stating things come down to rich/poor. Not important enough of study to point it all out, I'm sure eventually one will turn up that people will want to break down. It's ok, lots of studies have problems, some by design. Choose carefully.

You posted what I figured was your opinion. Now you say it's what the article said. So it's both? I'm ok with that.
 
2014-05-04 07:35:54 PM  

theflatline: lindalouwho: theflatline: lindalouwho: Deedeemarz: Marshmallow Jones: Well considering there are far more of these McDonalds/BK etc restaurants than there are 'health food' restaurants, I dont know that any of this would be a surprise.

Having said that, Americans on the whole eat like slobs.

Note that the less money you make the more likely you are to eat at the fast food places: because restaurants that serve healthier fare also charge a higher price. And apparently people are too lazy to cook for themselves...

Then why are there McDonald's in many affluent areas if they're being supported mostly by poor people?

In downtown areas you see businessmen, gov'mnt buildings, lawyers having McDs in their weekly lunch rotation?

I'm just playing devil's advocate, but think that at this point it may have more to do with eating it a lot as a kid made a lot of people be loyal customers regardless of who you become and what your income is when your grown.

And I find the idea that monied people all/mostly eat healthy because they can afford it just a little silly. Life experience and the fact that monied people are not all walking around svelte and toned.

/just my opinion, man

If you go into Walmart and compare the patrons to those of a high end store like Publix or Whole foods, you will most definitely  see the difference in size of the patrons.

Oh wait.

If?

Got any 'splainin' bout that one?
Do you imagine I live, oh I dunno.....on the moon since birth? So I've never been to any stores?

/jk

//I'm missing too much today myself to joke like that lol
//2 hrs sleep

How many other stores have a site like people of walmart showcasing their shoppers?


o_O instead of asking what your point is, I suggest you read the thread. Or not. It's all good.
 
2014-05-04 08:05:10 PM  

theflatline: Actually, I challenge you to provide a meal at Mcdonalds for .42 cents...


Why?  My entire point is that for less than what it costs to eat healthy from the grocery store, you could eat off the McDonalds value menu every meal.  For way less than that, you can buy crap food at the grocery store.  The people that insist that healthy food is cheaper have never actually paid attention to just how cheap shiatty food is.
 
2014-05-04 08:06:21 PM  

Destructor: rewind2846: True capitalism is when all parties in the transaction are "fully informed actors", with all the information pertaining to the deal.

Says who? Capitalism doesn't require full knowledge of anything. All it requires is the non-coerced participation of two or more parties acting in their own interest for their own gain.


Fail. For capitalism in it's purest form to work, both parties must have ALL the information pertaining to the transaction so that they can make informed and rational decisions. Purposely withholding information by either party negates the fairness of that transaction. Capitalism doesn't just require permission, it requires knowledge.
Maybe you should crack a book or two on economics, or just read these.


If I give you $2 for burger, you don't need to know where the money came from, or what I plan to do with the burger, and I'm not interested in what your "Secret Sauce" contains (so long as it lives up to regulations). If I want to know more, I can certainly ask, and then act based on what you care to divulge (if anything).

And there's good reasons why we have these regulations. Were it not for them, there could be anything in that "secret sauce". Google the term "patent medicine" for examples of what happens when knowledge is purposely withheld from potential customers.


rewind2846: That's not what we have here in this country, and why there are so many people with THE DIABEETUS rolling around on HoverrRounds. If more people knew exactly what was in the food they ate from these places as well as what it could do to them it would scare the living sh*t out of them, and is exactly what these corporations don't want to happen.

I hope I'm not being presumptuous here, but this seems like an actual rejection of Free Market Capitalism. If I want to acquire DIABEETUS, what right do you have to stop me? Why is it your responsibility to stop me? There is no "command and control" with Capitalism. It's all about each party acting in their best interests.


If you want to get the DIABEETUS, you are perfectly welcome to do so. However, corporations which make products which can contribute to DIABEETUS should tell you so. This gives you the knowledge to make an informed, albeit stupid, decision. Without that knowledge you cannot know what your "best interests" truly are, since the party with that information will most definitely try to screw you. Capitalism is greed, and greed counts upon one party being more ignorant than the other. Capitalism also does not exist with out rules, which act as the command and control. Without those rules the paper you have with the faces of dead presidents on it would be worthless, as would any pieces of shiny yellow metal.


rewind2846: The corporations hold all the cards, and spend millions lobbying government to make sure it stays that way.

Whose government? The corporations can't vote. People can, though. I would suggest that if you want to find fault with the system, it should be to find a way to educate voters about this, not tell them what agreements to enter into with businesses.


Now I know you're being either naive or just plain stupid. OF COURSE CORPORATIONS CAN'T "VOTE". They just lobby, and for corporations lobbying is even better than voting. You and I get to vote once every 2 or 4 years, but the corporations are on capitol hill and in the state houses every single day, 365 days a year. That constant attention (and money) carries a LOT of influence.

But then, you probably think that Monsanto has nothing to do with GMO labeling, or Comcast had nothing to do with the FCC's latest buttfarking of net neutrality. In fact, the $3.23 Billion (thats "billion" with a "B") that lobbyists spent in 2013, with $226,114,456 of that coming just from big Pharma, was probably just a "thank you" to all the fine legislators for the great job they do for this country.

Right.
You REALLY need to get out more.


rewind2846: tl;dr - just because something or someplace is "popular" doesn't mean that it's good.

The people have spoken. And they have said, "Supersize it."


While spewing mouthfulls of french fries.
 
2014-05-04 08:43:08 PM  
Humanity is bored and stupid and they don't know they're being exploited. That's why all corporations exist in the first place. If we were ever smart enough to last past the next 100 years we'd have an entirely different society.

Don't have kids.
 
2014-05-04 08:55:33 PM  

baorao: I don't know how it is where you live, but my *favorite* places in our city tend to keep weird hours like "open until 7pm" or "open Saturdays until 1 pm and closed Sunday".

So a lot of these places end up filling in the gaps.


Dammit what the fark is wrong with these places? Hey local businesses, I want to like you, but you cater exclusively to children, the elderly and the unemployed. Take Monday off, ya damn morons.
 
2014-05-04 09:31:51 PM  

letrole: Anyone who feigns disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years

don't own one, watch plenty of videos on laptop

2. Drink microbrewery beer
definitely

3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
6 year old HP laptop


4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
play em if you got em. i don't have any personally.

5. Read books at Starbucks
i am self satisfyingly zealous in my conviction to never step foot in or spend a single penny in a starbucks

6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
this is a dirty farking lie

7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
guilty. i do shop there a couple of times a month, but not for groceries. i got a shoe rack, some lucas ucl, and a webcam i used for a job interview, then immediately returned for a full refund.

8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
i have walked to the opposite side of the street to pass a group of smokers, but i could care less how you spend your health/money

9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
 i do in fact believe that in most cases skill and enthusiasm can overcome natural talent that lacks similar discipline.

10. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers
haven't owned a bike in 5 years. last one was a walmart beach cruiser. don't own any spandex.

that was fun. got any more?
 
2014-05-04 09:53:03 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Subby sounds like an hipster.

Maybe instead of trying to find some false authenticity, you just live your life?


This!
 
2014-05-04 10:04:54 PM  

propasaurus: JoieD'Zen: I manage to get through life without frequenting any of those places. Am I missing something?

Your sense of smug self satisfaction? No, wait that seems to be intact.

TheHappyCanadian: where do you eat, smugmitter?

Clemkadidlefark: Smug is not the In Color this year, Subby

DarkSoulNoHope: darch: This lipid-laden list isn't about subby being a hipster or "not liking what" you, the Perfect Farker "doesn't like", Or being "smug". It's about this country being an overweight, ignorant, corny embarrassment.

Enjoy your Type-2 diabetes, Average American standing in line at Taco Bell.

Bullshait, it's about companies not willing to pay their employees more, so people eat where they can afford to. Just because these places are "popular" doesn't mean it's the primary choice of the patrons. If you had employers shelling out money that would be considered a living wage in the area the employee resides, you better believe for a lunch break he or she would be going to a better quality restaurant than the ones listed (especially if it's an hour lunch for a sit down place).

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
Keenan: I noticed it on the computer this morning. Look here. This is the smug over South Park. It's... getting bigger and gaining strength.
Cartman: The smug?
Keenan: The smug is getting so massive that it's moving west... and fusing with the San Francisco smug... Here. [points to the smug over the California-Nevada border, near Reno] These two smug clouds are combining, fueling each other. Now take a look at this.
Stan: What is that?
Keenan: It's the smug from George Clooney's acceptance speech at the Academy Awards.
Stan: George Clooney's acceptance speech?
Keenan: Did you hear it? He talked about how people in Hollywood are ahead of the curve on social mattes. He even took credit for the Civil Rights movement -Look!! The point is... the smug from his acceptance speech has been slowly drifting north since he gave it, but that's relatively minor. The big problem is this even more powerful smug from FARK Thread #8247004, which will absorb the Clooney speech cell... and they're headed straight for the supercell. The South Park and San Francisco smug is already at critical mass. If it gets hit by FARK Thread #8247004 after that absorbs George Clooney's acceptance speech, it will be a disaster of epic proportions. The perfect storm... of self-satisfaction.
Ranger McFriendly: We've got to tell the townspeople! South Park still has a chance to make it through the storm!
 
2014-05-04 10:06:33 PM  
I don't visit any of those places on a regular basis. However, on a trip this weekend I stopped at a Starbucks for coffee and BK for a road burger. Both were better than good.  And Perkins for breakfast this AM was great.

I don't know when I'll need any of them again, but I'm glad they're around.
 
2014-05-04 10:17:57 PM  
Sometimes I wonder how the McDonald's across the street from Wal-mart in my city, makes enough money to stay open while people buy and dine at the McDonald's inside Wal-mart.
 
2014-05-04 10:19:13 PM  

rewind2846: Fail. For capitalism in it's purest form to work, both parties must have ALL the information pertaining to the transaction so that they can make informed and rational decisions. Purposely withholding information by either party negates the fairness of that transaction. Capitalism doesn't just require permission, it requires knowledge.


I disagree. Everyone commits acts of capitalism without knowing--or wanting to know--all the details. Why is it important you know what refinery processed the gas in your car? Or if the cow your burger is made of was male or female? You suggest it is important. Okay, why?

rewind2846: And there's good reasons why we have these regulations


Agreed. Unfettered capitalism is impractical. Too much harm is possible.

rewind2846: If you want to get the DIABEETUS, you are perfectly welcome to do so. However, corporations which make products which can contribute to DIABEETUS should tell you so. This gives you the knowledge to make an informed, albeit stupid, decision.


I disagree. You need to know what happens if  you misuse their product. A candy manufacturer doesn't need to tell you that doing nothing but eating candy is bad for you (for a variety of reasons; one of which is DIABEETUS). But you need to assume responsibility for your own actions. That is the (more or less) entire point of education.

rewind2846: Now I know you're being either naive or just plain stupid. OF COURSE CORPORATIONS CAN'T "VOTE". They just lobby, and for corporations lobbying is even better than voting. You and I get to vote once every 2 or 4 years, but the corporations are on capitol hill and in the state houses every single day, 365 days a year. That constant attention (and money) carries a LOT of influence


Neither. I was making a point.

Corporations can't vote. They can lobby, and they can advertise. Its up to us, citizens. to RECOGNIZE the DANGERS that these entities pose to democracy and act accordingly. That is our sacred duty to be SMART enough to understand this, and act accordingly. Whether this nation will long endure has always been based on the voting citizens.

rewind2846: Right.
You REALLY need to get out more.


You have no idea... :-(

rewind2846: The people have spoken. And they have said, "Supersize it."
While spewing mouthfulls of french fries.


I'm not happy about it. But that's where we are. Scary, isn't it?

www.geekation.com
 
2014-05-04 11:25:34 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-05 01:02:23 AM  
So, just how little do you have to have going on in your life that you pride yourself on the fact that you don't shop where the poors shop?
 
2014-05-05 01:13:01 AM  
Fark Starbucks I want my Supersonics back.
 
2014-05-05 01:13:17 AM  

vodka: The problem with 7-eleven is that almost everything in the place is priced higher than basically anywhere else. People buy there purely for convenience because there are so damn many of them. Only rich people can afford the luxury of sacrificing value for convenience on a regular basis.


THIS. 7-11 is hella expensive. Even things that most other convenience stores sell at/near cost, like cigarettes, are 1.25 more a pack at 7-11's. Not to mention they always feel a little grimy and there really isn't much in terms of fresh food. Coming from someone who lives in Wawa country, I have no idea how 7-11 still survives in this region.
 
2014-05-05 01:30:43 AM  

MBZ321: vodka: The problem with 7-eleven is that almost everything in the place is priced higher than basically anywhere else. People buy there purely for convenience because there are so damn many of them. Only rich people can afford the luxury of sacrificing value for convenience on a regular basis.

I'm thinking it's the opposite

. Alot of people couldn't be bothered to shop for good groceries and cook a good healthy meal which is cheaper than dining out.
 
2014-05-05 02:32:14 AM  

Claude the Dog: darch: This lipid-laden list isn't about subby being a hipster or "not liking what" you, the Perfect Farker "doesn't like", Or being "smug". It's about this country being an overweight, ignorant, corny embarrassment.

Enjoy your Type-2 diabetes, Average American standing in line at Taco Bell.

All that hate's gonna burn you up inside.



Probably not as badly as Taco Bell does, though!
 
2014-05-05 02:44:44 AM  
I'm surprised Subway is so high up the list. Their sandwiches are more or less a salad inside a sub bun, that is to say, relatively healthy.
 
2014-05-05 04:27:31 AM  

Destructor: assjuice: More like they are the most numerous and widespread chains.

Capitalism in action, baby! Both guns blazing... bam bam bam! Target anchor store there! FffffffffffewBAM! Freestanding McDonalds there! *ping ping ping* <ricochet noise>, and you get a 7-11 over there! Jobs for peeps, bargains for consumers, win-win. I love it.


7-11 is just about the last place I'd look for a bargain. 7-11 is where you stop on your way to the beach when you realize you forgot the sunblock.

F*ck, get some Doritos and beer while you're in there.
 
2014-05-05 05:07:17 AM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: kriegsgeist: JoieD'Zen: born_yesterday: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: It's not your imagination. Eating healthy is more expensive, study says.

You were saying?

The GF and I have been making a lot of effort to eat healthier, and I have to agree 100%.  Fruits and vegetables cost a ridiculous amount per pound when compared to fast food (hence my celery joke), and in addition require a significant amount of meal planning to keep costs reasonable.

Once it becomes routine it will be easier and you will feel better, and save money. Really.
Example
Roast chicken for dinner. Enjoy with your choice of sides.
Left over meat can be used to toss with pasta, spinach, garlic, cheese, etc for another meal or used to make sandwiches for lunch. Chicken carcass in crockpot with water, leftover veg, spices will make a great stock or a base for soup that can be frozen.
Simple really.

You can eat very well for very little money if you go that route, but even if you don't put much effort in at all you can cook for yourself and save a lot. For example, a box of hamburger helper and a pound of ground beef costs about $7.50, throw in a bag of frozen veggies for $2 and in 20 minutes you have a meal for at least two (unless you are both really big eaters) with more nutrition than what you could get for the same price at McDonald's. Less junk calories too.

If you have a grill, you can make about 4 burgers from a pound of ground beef, that's $2.50 or less (depending on the quality of the meat and how much you buy at once.) A little salt and pepper, some buns, lettuce, and a tomato, and you're still only looking at $3.50 per burger. Buy a bag of frozen french fries for another $3.50 (with around 4 servings) and you can get the same amount and type of food you would get at a fast food joint, but it will be healthier, cheaper, and taste better. The main difference is the extra time, but it's really only about 20 minutes, and that goes down if you make a bunch in advance and freeze them.

And you're now spending three times what it would cost to get the same calories at McDonalds.  I don't think people quite understand what really poor people do when they go to a place like McDonalds.  They don't get the Quarter Pounder, or the Big Mac (unless it's on sale), or one of those Angus burgers, they spend $0.89 on a cheeseburger or $1.19 on a McDouble.  For what you're spending on just one homemade burger, I can get a McDouble, Value size fry, and a 32oz soda.

I'm willing to bet that none of these "oh, you can totally eat healthy cheaper than crap food" people have never had to survive on a $10/week food budget.  I have, and crap food was the only shiat I could afford.  A 12 pack of ramen ($2), a loaf of shiatty white bread ($1), store-brand peanut butter ($2), and a couple bags of frozen mixed veggies for mixing with the ramen ($4) will feed a person for a week (that's ~$0.42 per meal in case you were wondering)  I challenge you to provide 3 healthy meals a day at $0.42 each.  You can't do it.

It's a simple fact, eating healthy is currently more expensive than eating crappy.


Rice. The secret is rice.

With rice, that $0.69/lb sack of chicken legs goes four times as far. Add beans into your cooking, and it goes even further.

Don't get caught in the disappointing money pit of prepped starches like cereal, unless you eat it because it's laced with vitamins.
 
2014-05-05 07:03:10 AM  
I make great money, ain't a big fat person, yet I still eat fast food and shop at walmart.  Guess what, when I want lunch and I don't want to spend 20 bucks, it's going to be fast food.  If I want groceries, I buy them at walmart because it's cheap and I get the same stuff I can spend more elsewhere to get.  Economies of scale, learn it.
 
2014-05-05 07:04:04 AM  

Bonzo_1116: Destructor: assjuice: More like they are the most numerous and widespread chains.

Capitalism in action, baby! Both guns blazing... bam bam bam! Target anchor store there! FffffffffffewBAM! Freestanding McDonalds there! *ping ping ping* <ricochet noise>, and you get a 7-11 over there! Jobs for peeps, bargains for consumers, win-win. I love it.

7-11 is just about the last place I'd look for a bargain. 7-11 is where you stop on your way to the beach when you realize you forgot the sunblock.

F*ck, get some Doritos and beer while you're in there.


You're paying for convenience. That has to be a key factor in their business model, 'cause it sure ain't price matching.
 
2014-05-05 08:27:14 AM  

hitmanric: MBZ321: vodka: The problem with 7-eleven is that almost everything in the place is priced higher than basically anywhere else. People buy there purely for convenience because there are so damn many of them. Only rich people can afford the luxury of sacrificing value for convenience on a regular basis.

I'm thinking it's the opposite. Alot of people couldn't be bothered to shop for good groceries and cook a good healthy meal which is cheaper than dining out.


Eh, depends on how you calculate it. Running through the drive-thru is quicker and easier than going out and buying new vegetables every couple days, spending half an hour boiling shiat and washing the dishes. Time is money and all that shiat.
 
2014-05-05 08:29:01 AM  

hitnrun74: I make great money, ain't a big fat person, yet I still eat fast food and shop at walmart.  Guess what, when I want lunch and I don't want to spend 20 bucks, it's going to be fast food.  If I want groceries, I buy them at walmart because it's cheap and I get the same stuff I can spend more elsewhere to get.  Economies of scale, learn it.


Are you trying to say there's some kind of grey area? fark off, you're either an obese glutton or a spindly vegan snob! PICK A SIDE!
 
2014-05-05 08:51:10 AM  
So where the fark do hipsters go to buy some deodorant or toothpaste late at night or because they don't have 20mins to go into a grocery store?

Do you go to some boutique family owned drug store that I haven't heard of?
 
2014-05-05 09:39:07 AM  

nocturnal001: So where the fark do hipsters go to buy some deodorant or toothpaste late at night or because they don't have 20mins to go into a grocery store?

Do you go to some boutique family owned drug store that I haven't heard of?


No 24hr grocery stores/CVS in your town?

Not a hipster, way too old for that.
 
2014-05-05 09:43:12 AM  

dletter: What I'd like to see is (for example) what are the sales at all "non-chain pizzarias" put together?   Is that as a block bigger than any one other major chain (Pizza Hut, Papa Johns, Dominoes, etc)?

If so, then, that is good..... obviously those big names are going to be the big names.... they have thousands of locations.   Any one single or 2-3 location chain in a town pizza joint isn't going to match that obviously.  But, I'd like to think maybe all of the "local pizzarias" together nationwide as a whole outgain any chain... I might be wrong though.

I mean, I just think about the best local place near me... just picked up a double crust pizza yesterday for dinner, the dining room was packed, and there were 7 other people in the pick-up line... and where you pick up the pizza is where they are making the pizza's, I counted 11 people just there working (so, not including waitresses, bartenders, or other bus staff).

/unfortunately not open on Sundays, because Indiana


Found this...

www.pmq.com
http://www.pmq.com/December-2012/Pizza-Power-2013-State-of-the-Indus tr y-Report/

So, that should make people feel a bit better.... people overall DO go to their local pizzarias than any one major chain, and actually more than the top 4 chains combined.
 
2014-05-05 10:02:29 AM  

dletter: dletter: What I'd like to see is (for example) what are the sales at all "non-chain pizzarias" put together?   Is that as a block bigger than any one other major chain (Pizza Hut, Papa Johns, Dominoes, etc)?

If so, then, that is good..... obviously those big names are going to be the big names.... they have thousands of locations.   Any one single or 2-3 location chain in a town pizza joint isn't going to match that obviously.  But, I'd like to think maybe all of the "local pizzarias" together nationwide as a whole outgain any chain... I might be wrong though.

I mean, I just think about the best local place near me... just picked up a double crust pizza yesterday for dinner, the dining room was packed, and there were 7 other people in the pick-up line... and where you pick up the pizza is where they are making the pizza's, I counted 11 people just there working (so, not including waitresses, bartenders, or other bus staff).

/unfortunately not open on Sundays, because Indiana

Found this...

[www.pmq.com image 750x554]
http://www.pmq.com/December-2012/Pizza-Power-2013-State-of-the-Indus tr y-Report/

So, that should make people feel a bit better.... people overall DO go to their local pizzarias than any one major chain, and actually more than the top 4 chains combined.


A lot of that is convenience and price.  I'd have to drive 20 minutes to get to the nearest chain, Pizza Hut, while there are over a half a dozen local places that are 10 minutes or closer and two that are only five minutes away (they get most of my business).  The local places are always offering specials and typically take each other's coupons.  Chinese food is the same thing, except that the chains really only thrive in the mall.

Locals also much easier to deal with if you want to do a fund raiser.  Chains always seem to need some upper management approval that takes weeks to get.  If I want to run a pizza night fundraiser, I can usually go in and talk to the owner on any given night of the week and get approval right then and there for the next week.  Most of them are happy to get the extra business on a Tuesday night in exchange for 20% of the take.  And if they only want to offer 10% or 15%, you can strong arm them by saying the guy down the street gives 20% and you'll just go there.  Locals are more flexible on price and menu with catering events too.
 
2014-05-05 10:16:02 AM  

letrole: Anyone who feigns disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Drink microbrewery beer
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers


11.  Need something unique to present to the world to show what a precious snowflake they are.
 
2014-05-05 10:19:21 AM  

Persnickety: A lot of that is convenience and price.  I'd have to drive 20 minutes to get to the nearest chain, Pizza Hut, while there are over a half a dozen local places that are 10 minutes or closer and two that are only five minutes away (they get most of my business).


I think that is just dependent on where things are and when you live.... there are two good local pizzaria's within 15 minutes of my house (one is actually the closest pizza place to my house tho, 5 min away), but, within 15 minutes I have 3 Pizza Huts, Papa Johns, Little Ceasars, Marcos, Hungry Howies.   Other than because the closest local place decides to be closed on Sunday's, I generally pick them, or the other local place 10 minutes away (different styles of pizza though... the close one is Chicago style thin/thick crust, the other place is more California/artisan thin crust).
 
2014-05-05 01:26:55 PM  
This list is dominated by Walmart, Target, Starbucks, McDonalds, Walgreens, CVS, and 7-11,
among others....where's the nearest Al-Qaeda recruiting office?
 
2014-05-05 01:42:35 PM  
I haven't read the thread yet, but I was wondering if Wal-mart was a good place to buy high quality merchandise in a clean and classy environment, particularly as compared to Target.  Going to go read and find out now....
 
2014-05-05 03:34:25 PM  

COMALite J: propasaurus: JoieD'Zen: I manage to get through life without frequenting any of those places. Am I missing something?

Your sense of smug self satisfaction? No, wait that seems to be intact.
TheHappyCanadian: where do you eat, smugmitter?
Clemkadidlefark: Smug is not the In Color this year, Subby
DarkSoulNoHope: darch: This lipid-laden list isn't about subby being a hipster or "not liking what" you, the Perfect Farker "doesn't like", Or being "smug". It's about this country being an overweight, ignorant, corny embarrassment.

Enjoy your Type-2 diabetes, Average American standing in line at Taco Bell.

Bullshait, it's about companies not willing to pay their employees more, so people eat where they can afford to. Just because these places are "popular" doesn't mean it's the primary choice of the patrons. If you had employers shelling out money that would be considered a living wage in the area the employee resides, you better believe for a lunch break he or she would be going to a better quality restaurant than the ones listed (especially if it's an hour lunch for a sit down place).
[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 300x168]
Keenan: I noticed it on the computer this morning. Look here. This is the smug over South Park. It's... getting bigger and gaining strength.
Cartman: The smug?
Keenan: The smug is getting so massive that it's moving west... and fusing with the San Francisco smug... Here. [points to the smug over the California-Nevada border, near Reno] These two smug clouds are combining, fueling each other. Now take a look at this.
Stan: What is that?
Keenan: It's the smug from George Clooney's acceptance speech at the Academy Awards.
Stan: George Clooney's acceptance speech?
Keenan: Did you hear it? He talked about how people in Hollywood are ahead of the curve on social mattes. He even took credit for the Civil Rights movement -Look!! The point is... the smug from his acceptance speech has been slowly drifting north since he gave it, but that's relatively min ...


Caring about people's plights, in relative terms to the low wages they get now and the higher wages they could get (if we increase the minimum wage, or if employers don't push for endless upward profit and actually reward their hardworking employees with a raise) from their employers is considered "smug" to you?! Fark you!
 
Displayed 244 of 244 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report