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(Vice)   New information has come to light: net neutrality rules are about to be abandoned because the FCC is filled with former Comcast and Verizon attorneys   (m.vice.com) divider line 67
    More: Obvious, attorney-in-fact, Federal Communications Commission, Comcast, net neutrality, Verizon, internet, Willkie Farr & Gallagher  
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2014-05-04 10:59:14 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-04 11:37:15 AM  
As long as you're going to assume the only two pipes into your house are through the cable wire and the telephone data line, yeah, you're going to be at the mercy of that oligopoly.

Dial up is still free. Free as in freedom.
 
2014-05-04 11:49:53 AM  
Well, it was good while it lasted
 
2014-05-04 12:20:14 PM  
That wasn't the change I was hoping for.
 
2014-05-04 12:20:21 PM  
jokes on them, I downloaded the internet last week and burnt an extra copy of it on a re-writable CD as a backup.  now I can cancel my internet service and not miss a thing.

/suckers
 
2014-05-04 12:20:47 PM  
Have you written to your representatives? Filed testimony with the FCC? Donated to an organization like the EFF?

Stop whining about it and do freaking something.
 
2014-05-04 12:22:25 PM  
By the way, you can comment to the FCC here.
 
2014-05-04 12:23:39 PM  
www.arktimes.com
 
2014-05-04 12:24:33 PM  
"The backgrounds of the new FCC staff have not been reported until now."

Unless you've been on reddit the last few months.
 
2014-05-04 12:36:08 PM  

s2s2s2: "The backgrounds of the new FCC staff have not been reported until now."

Unless you've been on reddit the last few months.


They mean, the backgrounds of the new FCC staff have not yet been revealed by Jon Stewart, which is the only source of news for most of the low-information voters.
 
2014-05-04 12:38:44 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Have you written to your representatives? Filed testimony with the FCC? Donated to an organization like the EFF?

Stop whining about it and do freaking something.


Hater, please. Net neutrality is un-American

img.photobucket.com
 
2014-05-04 12:42:23 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Stop whining about it and do freaking something.

You do realize the FCC is not a publicly elected body, right?
 
2014-05-04 12:44:02 PM  
There's also the sort of people that want to roll up the roads and make you pay to go anywhere.
 
2014-05-04 12:45:47 PM  

Nemo's Brother: s2s2s2: "The backgrounds of the new FCC staff have not been reported until now."

Unless you've been on reddit the last few months.

They mean, the backgrounds of the new FCC staff have not yet been revealed by Jon Stewart, which is the only source of news for most of the low-information voters.


Better than the mis-information voters who watch Fox.
 
2014-05-04 12:46:40 PM  
How did anyone not see this coming? The fact that the US Government let the internet be uncontrolled for as long as they did is nothing short of miraculous. I'm surprised they didn't lock it down back in the 90's.

It was fun while it lasted.
 
2014-05-04 12:55:26 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-04 01:02:44 PM  

jso2897: Nemo's Brother: s2s2s2: "The backgrounds of the new FCC staff have not been reported until now."

Unless you've been on reddit the last few months.

They mean, the backgrounds of the new FCC staff have not yet been revealed by Jon Stewart, which is the only source of news for most of the low-information voters.

Better than the mis-information voters who watch Fox.


But to be fair, the worst reporting in america right now is any piece on e-cigs featured on NPR. They should be forced start each such segment with a disclaimer, "The following contains absolutely no journalism, just a repeat of the FUD from a couple days ago."
 
2014-05-04 01:05:04 PM  
Yeah, it was fun while it lasted.
 
2014-05-04 01:11:24 PM  
This will be the x generation's Vietnam.
 
2014-05-04 01:13:16 PM  
Not too surprising, the US government is a cesspool of corruption and criminality.

USA!
USA!
USA!
 
2014-05-04 01:15:41 PM  

s2s2s2: But to be fair, the worst reporting in america right now is any piece on e-cigs featured on NPR. They should be forced start each such segment with a disclaimer, "The following contains absolutely no journalism, just a repeat of the FUD from a couple days ago."


Oh thats cute, you still think of NPR as un-biased and liberal.

/The MacArthur Foundation?  Rockefeller? Standard oil.
///Both the MacArthurs and the Rockefellers were rich well beyond todays 1%.
 
2014-05-04 01:20:08 PM  

fluffy2097: s2s2s2: But to be fair, the worst reporting in america right now is any piece on e-cigs featured on NPR. They should be forced start each such segment with a disclaimer, "The following contains absolutely no journalism, just a repeat of the FUD from a couple days ago."

Oh thats cute, you still think of NPR as un-biased and liberal.

/The MacArthur Foundation?  Rockefeller? Standard oil.
///Both the MacArthurs and the Rockefellers were rich well beyond todays 1%.


No I don't think they are un-biased, but I expect a higher level of effort to appear so.
 
2014-05-04 01:21:26 PM  

Saborlas: [img.fark.net image 744x507]


I'm already paying $54.95/month... for 6Mbps DSL.
 
2014-05-04 01:26:10 PM  

s2s2s2: No I don't think they are un-biased, but I expect a higher level of effort to appear so.


I think you are underestimating the depths people will sink to when you start piling stacks of actual currency on the desk in front of them.
 
2014-05-04 01:27:21 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Have you written to your representatives? Filed testimony with the FCC? Donated to an organization like the EFF?

Stop whining about it and do freaking something.


Yes, through the EFF website.
 
2014-05-04 01:30:39 PM  

wildcardjack: There's also the sort of people that want to roll up the roads and make you pay to go anywhere.


AverageAmericanGuy: As long as you're going to assume the only two pipes into your house are through the cable wire and the telephone data line, yeah, you're going to be at the mercy of that oligopoly.

Dial up is still free. Free as in freedom.



As long as you're going to assume that the only path to your house is the road, yeah, you're going to be at their mercy.

Walking is still free. Free as in freedom.
 
2014-05-04 01:35:54 PM  

Notabunny: Hater, please. Net neutrality is un-American


Yeah, that's why I've publicly commented to the FCC and written to my representatives. What have you done?

dragonchild: You do realize the FCC is not a publicly elected body, right?


Yeah, but the FCC is still subject to laws from congress, and if even a million people wrote to their congressmen saying that the issue was important to them, the FCC would get a lot of calls from people who matter, and it would set the stage for legislation overturning the rule. You're still competing against corporations with a lot of cash and lobbyists, but at least it's something other than complaining on fark.
 
2014-05-04 01:53:05 PM  
I love when an issue makes people who usually defend the actions of gov't see the reality

The gov't is controlled by unelected bureaucratics in the pockets of super rich people.

But keep supporting huge expansions of gov't agencies like HHS, EPA SEC FTC etc.
 
2014-05-04 02:12:25 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Notabunny: Hater, please. Net neutrality is un-American

Yeah, that's why I've publicly commented to the FCC and written to my representatives. What have you done?

dragonchild: You do realize the FCC is not a publicly elected body, right?

Yeah, but the FCC is still subject to laws from congress, and if even a million people wrote to their congressmen saying that the issue was important to them, the FCC would get a lot of calls from people who matter, and it would set the stage for legislation overturning the rule. You're still competing against corporations with a lot of cash and lobbyists, but at least it's something other than complaining on fark.


Mind you, I support this side of thinking, but wasn't there some depressing article the other day that showed how fast laws change based on:
A) Lobbying dollars/top corporations want vs. B) The American public wide majority and found that what the American public wants really doesn't matter unless it lines up with A or at least it will take years of the majority pressing the issue to get a small change
 
2014-05-04 02:19:00 PM  
Hopefully, Google and Netflix and other companies that don't want to spend more money thanks to the Comcast Tax can do something to counteract this.
 
2014-05-04 02:27:35 PM  

MugzyBrown: I love when an issue makes people who usually defend the actions of gov't see the reality

The gov't is controlled by unelected bureaucratics in the pockets of super rich people.

But keep supporting huge expansions of gov't agencies like HHS, EPA SEC FTC etc.


You do realize that government regulation is the only thing that can keep net neutrality, right? The "market" sure as hell ain't going to regulate itself.
 
2014-05-04 02:31:45 PM  

LordJiro: Hopefully, Google and Netflix and other companies that don't want to spend more money thanks to the Comcast Tax can do something to counteract this.

That's kind of driving my apathy on this issue.  The parties that stand to lose the most (aside from ordinary U.S. citizens but no one gives a rat's ass about those) are on-line business operations.  They already pay for first-mile; paying extra for last-mile prioritization is an additional cost with no return.  To make a few ISPs happy; they risk kneecapping a commercial collective with annual revenue of hundreds of billions of dollars.  This would do untold damage to an economy the bigwigs are already nervous about, with the 2016 elections hanging in the balance.  If no one's making that case to the FCC, what hope do we have?  I mean, if the politicians are really that stupid, then I don't see how they can possibly understand my polysyllabic language.
 
2014-05-04 02:42:36 PM  

dragonchild: LordJiro: Hopefully, Google and Netflix and other companies that don't want to spend more money thanks to the Comcast Tax can do something to counteract this.
That's kind of driving my apathy on this issue.  The parties that stand to lose the most (aside from ordinary U.S. citizens but no one gives a rat's ass about those) are on-line business operations.  They already pay for first-mile; paying extra for last-mile prioritization is an additional cost with no return.  To make a few ISPs happy; they risk kneecapping a commercial collective with annual revenue of hundreds of billions of dollars.  This would do untold damage to an economy the bigwigs are already nervous about, with the 2016 elections hanging in the balance.  If no one's making that case to the FCC, what hope do we have?  I mean, if the politicians are really that stupid, then I don't see how they can possibly understand my polysyllabic language.


Or, this shiat doesnt come to light until all of the ducks you've mentioned are lined up in a row.  Everyone has an asking price.  It might be nothing more than a spot on Capitol Hill for Eric Schmidt and company later on, but I doubt they havent run these ground balls out already.
 
2014-05-04 02:44:39 PM  
Meh. I I found this the other day and realized it was all over with anyway. In light of this discovery, I don't really care. I've seen it all now; you don't keep buying the same copy of a book over and over, do you?
 
2014-05-04 03:09:25 PM  
Imminent death of the Net predicted.
Film at 11.

(Saw my first 'Net death' in 1992)
 
2014-05-04 03:21:19 PM  
When AOL was first switching from BBS to the internet at large, the end of the net was prophesied.

It took a little longer than we thought but we'll get there.
 
2014-05-04 03:22:18 PM  
If you want the laws changed you hire people to infiltrate the Government...
like Corporations do.
 
2014-05-04 03:41:11 PM  

Saborlas:


Soon to be reality.
 
2014-05-04 03:41:15 PM  
I don't even own a TV.
 
2014-05-04 03:42:49 PM  

Stoker: If you want the laws changed you hire people to infiltrate the Government...
like Corporations do.


Scientology now sued by Disneycorp and the State of Florida for copyright infringement with Operation Snow White.
 
2014-05-04 03:44:39 PM  
Fun fact: The big tobacco companies loved all the big lawsuits and regulations they had a hand in, it crushed all the smaller players.
 
2014-05-04 03:48:40 PM  
i46.tinypic.com
 
2014-05-04 04:03:58 PM  
The opinion of an attorney isn't necessarily the opinion of his/her employer. You know, when an attorney defends a pedophile, it doesn't mean he is pro-pedophile. This is basically like complaining that a player picked up by the Red Sox won't play as well because he used to play for the Yankees. It's just a job folks. If net-neutrality goes down it will be because someone in Congress pressured the FCC to do it, not because the lawyers at the FCC have some lingering loyalty to their former employers. Besides, who else are you going to get to work for the FCC? You need telecommunications law experience to do the job well. How else are you supposed to get that experience other than working for telecoms?
 
2014-05-04 04:07:51 PM  

albert71292: Saborlas: [img.fark.net image 744x507]

I'm already paying $54.95/month... for 6Mbps DSL.


$75 here. I also get "unlimited long distance!"

/woo..
 
2014-05-04 04:18:03 PM  

MugzyBrown: I love when an issue makes people who usually defend the actions of gov't see the reality

The gov't is controlled by unelected bureaucratics in the pockets of super rich people.

But keep supporting huge expansions of gov't agencies like HHS, EPA SEC FTC etc.


Do you understand how retarded your reasoning is or do you expect someone to walk you through it?
 
2014-05-04 04:29:27 PM  

Tman144: not because the lawyers at the FCC have some lingering loyalty to their former employers


the problem with regulator loyalty (not just in telecoms) is that the people who play ball with the industries always seem to magically find a job back with the company in a high paying position in the high 6 figures range, and the regulators who don't play ball find themselves unemployed.

its pretty obvious how that system works
 
2014-05-04 04:35:41 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Have you written to your representatives? Filed testimony with the FCC? Donated to an organization like the EFF?

Stop whining about it and do freaking something.


I did donate. A lot easier to donate than to prevent what seems to amount to a corporate take over of the regulatory body. Easy to biatch about people biatching but whats your solution besides stop biatching?
 
2014-05-04 04:42:02 PM  

cboppert: I did donate. A lot easier to donate than to prevent what seems to amount to a corporate take over of the regulatory body. Easy to biatch about people biatching but whats your solution besides stop biatching?


Poison the well they drink at by teaching all the good boys and girls that ISP's didn't make any of that content they are asking you to pay for, and that money should go to the artists and creators instead.

/A generation is growing up knowing ISP's are scum
//Another generation is dying out knowing ISP's are scum.
 
2014-05-04 04:52:41 PM  
"If you can't beat 'em, buy 'em." ~Standard Corporate Slogan
 
2014-05-04 05:01:47 PM  
Can we get rid of the FCC?
Seems like they are entirely useless in the 21st century.
 
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