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(AP)   Apparently, promoting a drinking party called "cinco de drinko" with a facebook page showing people in sombreros hopping a fence while border agents look on is considered "racially insensitive" and "wrong"   (hosted.ap.org) divider line 131
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2014-05-04 11:50:54 AM

lovefirststool: But Mexicans DO wear sombreros and jump fences. It's only insensitive if it's stereotypical and inaccurate.


To be fair, it does take some skill to do that while drinking.
 
2014-05-04 11:57:41 AM

walkerhound: [cdn.phillymag.com image 452x327]


They left out "Will screw for Anchor Baby".
 
2014-05-04 12:01:05 PM
So, Anthony Bourdain's show tonight is about Mexico, perhaps because Cinco de Mayo is tomorrow.  He's going to be eating and drinking his way through Mexico, while dragging out all their dirty laundry (gap between the rich and poor, corrupt politicians, illegal immigration to the US, etc..).  The trailers feature bits of this conversation as well as Mexicans in traditional folk costumes and I won't be surprised to see sombreros.  Why is it not "cultural insensitivity" when he does it?
 
2014-05-04 12:01:05 PM
Usual college student mentality though.  I mean, seriously, don't they all do something equally silly?  Come to think of it, I'm not sure I can even remember some of those parties anymore.

But I do know that I never went to a party in blackface, or as a 'wetback' or such.
 
2014-05-04 12:04:48 PM
www.southparkstudios.com
 
2014-05-04 12:05:00 PM

Witness99: So, Anthony Bourdain's show tonight is about Mexico, perhaps because Cinco de Mayo is tomorrow.  He's going to be eating and drinking his way through Mexico, while dragging out all their dirty laundry (gap between the rich and poor, corrupt politicians, illegal immigration to the US, etc..).  The trailers feature bits of this conversation as well as Mexicans in traditional folk costumes and I won't be surprised to see sombreros.  Why is it not "cultural insensitivity" when he does it?


He's wealthy and has a popular TeeVee show.
 
2014-05-04 12:05:14 PM

GrymReeper: Which "race" are we addressing, here?


The race to outrun the border patrol.
 
2014-05-04 12:07:56 PM

Witness99: So, Anthony Bourdain's show tonight is about Mexico, perhaps because Cinco de Mayo is tomorrow.  He's going to be eating and drinking his way through Mexico, while dragging out all their dirty laundry (gap between the rich and poor, corrupt politicians, illegal immigration to the US, etc..).  The trailers feature bits of this conversation as well as Mexicans in traditional folk costumes and I won't be surprised to see sombreros.  Why is it not "cultural insensitivity" when he does it?


I am Colombian and his shows in Colombia have always been dead on, and in one he went to a hood that most Colombians would not set foot in.  He tends not to sugarcoat issues.

However, Martha Stewart in Colombia was a joke.
 
2014-05-04 12:12:24 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Maybe the drunks wearing sombreros should stay on their side of the damn border.


There's not a huge issue with US citizens sneaking across the border to Mexico.... They DO stay on their side of the border...
 
2014-05-04 12:14:02 PM
So now we're getting our panties in a wad over a bunch of drunk, douchy college students? Or is this a "Hey look, liberals are the real racists" article?
 
2014-05-04 12:14:56 PM
Is there any Mexican people ANYWHERE upset by this, or is it all manufactured? Going on class/field type trips with my daughter when she was in HS circa 2007 we would pass Mexican guys standing on the corners selling fruit (SoCal) and her Mexican classmates would all say shiat about that being a cousin or some other family member and in general crack jokes. This current generation of kids needs to grow up quick n teach the adults not to get their panties in a knot over every damn thing.
 
2014-05-04 12:15:00 PM
"What kind of message are you trying to send?" student Edwin Roque said, calling the party theme offensive.

Come to our party and get muy shiatfaced, I assume.
 
2014-05-04 12:17:24 PM
Figures, wussified White Guilt Liberals and assorted race bigots hating a party that parodied a factual event
 
2014-05-04 12:18:11 PM

Witness99: So, Anthony Bourdain's show tonight is about Mexico, perhaps because Cinco de Mayo is tomorrow.  He's going to be eating and drinking his way through Mexico, while dragging out all their dirty laundry (gap between the rich and poor, corrupt politicians, illegal immigration to the US, etc..).  The trailers feature bits of this conversation as well as Mexicans in traditional folk costumes and I won't be surprised to see sombreros.  Why is it not "cultural insensitivity" when he does it?


He makes the right genuflections and tut tuts and "it's not their fault's"required. Pretending to care about the plight of people being exploited also helps. That said, I really liked his one on the Congo.
 
2014-05-04 12:19:22 PM
As long as you're not the type of person that throws around words like "spics, beaners, and wet backs" 365 days out of the year, I don't see the problem. If you are one of those people, then let's not pretend like there's any feeling of shame or remorse when you get called out on being a racist piece of shiat. You're clearly proud of your ignorance and will likely infect a new generation with your xenophobic bullshiat. Yay.
 
2014-05-04 12:20:09 PM

theflatline: Witness99: So, Anthony Bourdain's show tonight is about Mexico, perhaps because Cinco de Mayo is tomorrow.  He's going to be eating and drinking his way through Mexico, while dragging out all their dirty laundry (gap between the rich and poor, corrupt politicians, illegal immigration to the US, etc..).  The trailers feature bits of this conversation as well as Mexicans in traditional folk costumes and I won't be surprised to see sombreros.  Why is it not "cultural insensitivity" when he does it?

I am Colombian and his shows in Colombia have always been dead on, and in one he went to a hood that most Colombians would not set foot in.  He tends not to sugarcoat issues.

However, Martha Stewart in Colombia was a joke.


Didn't Zimmern do a show in Colombia as well?  I recall one where he went into a neighborhood run by gangs, and required an escort; at the time, the garbage men were on strike.  Anyone remember where this was?

/end jack
 
2014-05-04 12:20:52 PM

Chabash: Ima4nic8or: K3rmy: Hmm. . .people making fun of a current hot topic.  Though done in jest, at least it addresses it.  It is not getting swept under the rug.  Other people whine because it is insensitive.

Put on your big boy bragas and stop acting like a little puto. Rather than have a sit in at the coffee shop and chant slogans you can form study groups and impromptu think tanks to come with possible ideas to possible move towards a resolution.

But of course this won't happen.  Obama was partially correct with the "Yes We Can" slogan.  He just did not state the second part "But We Won't".

Or they could, you know, go study whatever there are supposedly there to study.  I know its a novel idea but hear me out on this one.  Sitting in the coffee shop shouting slogans in protest of an insignificant issue isn't going to help any of them pass that upcoming calculus or chemistry test they are worried about.

What makes you think the protesters are majoring in something that requires either of those subjects?


I just picked two random subjects that I guess I was familiar with but you are right, the protestors are the type that are probably majoring in underwater basket weaving, leisure studies or 12th century feminism.  I suppose it is good then that they are protesting at the coffee house since that is where they will be spending much of their careers.
 
2014-05-04 12:21:18 PM

haolegirl: Is there any Mexican people ANYWHERE upset by this, or is it all manufactured?


Of course it's manufactured.  Only whites are this thin skinned.
 
2014-05-04 12:21:40 PM

geoduck42: ghare: I think the main issue is, we're not still getting boats of Irish showing up. The Irish have had time to get over it and have fun with it.

Of course I could be wrong.

And Irish people are no longer actively discriminated against in the US. Today's Latinos don't have it as bad as blacks, but yeah. You pull this crap, you're kicking down. Aim your shots at those above you.


Of course, one of the largest Mexican and Hispanic rights groups is called The Race (La Raza)....and Irish Americans do not actively join the IRA here in the US
 
2014-05-04 12:22:12 PM

ghare: RTOGUY: I think the comparison to St.Patrick's day is very apt. Why is it okay for everyone to get shiat faced to be "Irish" for the day but poking fun at Mexicans hopping a fence is out of bounds? Which is a more hurtful stereotype when you consider that the U.S does have a serious problem of Mexicans hopping the border illegally? Now that said anybody on a university campus should have known this wouldn't go over well.

I think the main issue is, we're not still getting boats of Irish showing up. The Irish have had time to get over it and have fun with it.

Of course I could be wrong.

www.ladyofthecake.com
 
2014-05-04 12:26:28 PM
The problem with the PC crowd is that they fail to understand the natural American cycle of integration.  First a new people must be made fun of...  Only when they learn to laugh at themselves and with the rest of us will they really become Americans.  And we dont care what foreigners think anyways...
 
2014-05-04 12:27:14 PM

geoduck42: ghare: I think the main issue is, we're not still getting boats of Irish showing up. The Irish have had time to get over it and have fun with it.

Of course I could be wrong.

And Irish people are no longer actively discriminated against in the US. Today's Latinos don't have it as bad as blacks, but yeah. You pull this crap, you're kicking down. Aim your shots at those above you.


Says you, I hate the Irish.
 
2014-05-04 12:28:08 PM

FloridaFarkTag: geoduck42: ghare: I think the main issue is, we're not still getting boats of Irish showing up. The Irish have had time to get over it and have fun with it.

Of course I could be wrong.

And Irish people are no longer actively discriminated against in the US. Today's Latinos don't have it as bad as blacks, but yeah. You pull this crap, you're kicking down. Aim your shots at those above you.

Of course, one of the largest Mexican and Hispanic rights groups is called The Race (La Raza)....and Irish Americans do not actively join the IRA here in the US


you do realize that plenty of irish americans did join the IRA during the troubles, right? heck, a sitting US congressman- steve king of NY- is notorious for his public support of the IRA.

but in that spirit, plenty of people regularly order irish car bombs and black and tans at bars without batting an eye in the US, so i don't see why this is so outrageous
 
2014-05-04 12:28:20 PM
What do you want to bet that not a single one of the protestors was Hispanic?
 
2014-05-04 12:29:03 PM

haolegirl: Is there any Mexican people ANYWHERE upset by this, or is it all manufactured? Going on class/field type trips with my daughter when she was in HS circa 2007 we would pass Mexican guys standing on the corners selling fruit (SoCal) and her Mexican classmates would all say shiat about that being a cousin or some other family member and in general crack jokes. This current generation of kids needs to grow up quick n teach the adults not to get their panties in a knot over every damn thing.


Not saying this is a huge, important issue, but claiming "they do it, we can do it to" is just lazy logic. I see people do this all the time. "My friend/spouse/brother-in-law makes fun of Hispanics and he's a Hispanic, so it's not wrong if I do it!" And it wouldn't be. If they weren't assholes about it. If you think having a vaguely Hispanic friend makes it okay to call all of Latin America spics or Mexicans, you're part of the problem, not part of the solution. Which is fine, just don't act like you're doing something noble or endearing.
 
2014-05-04 12:29:18 PM

Kalashinator: trappedspirit: RTOGUY: I think the comparison to St.Patrick's day is very apt. Why is it okay for everyone to get shiat faced to be "Irish" for the day but poking fun at Mexicans hopping a fence is out of bounds? Which is a more hurtful stereotype when you consider that the U.S does have a serious problem of Mexicans hopping the border illegally? Now that said anybody on a university campus should have known this wouldn't go over well.

And car bombs.  Don't forget being "Irish" is about car bombs and blowing people up.

There's even a drink named after that!


There's a drink called blowing people up? Who knew?
 
2014-05-04 12:45:23 PM

Chabash: Ima4nic8or: K3rmy: Hmm. . .people making fun of a current hot topic.  Though done in jest, at least it addresses it.  It is not getting swept under the rug.  Other people whine because it is insensitive.

Put on your big boy bragas and stop acting like a little puto. Rather than have a sit in at the coffee shop and chant slogans you can form study groups and impromptu think tanks to come with possible ideas to possible move towards a resolution.

But of course this won't happen.  Obama was partially correct with the "Yes We Can" slogan.  He just did not state the second part "But We Won't".

Or they could, you know, go study whatever there are supposedly there to study.  I know its a novel idea but hear me out on this one.  Sitting in the coffee shop shouting slogans in protest of an insignificant issue isn't going to help any of them pass that upcoming calculus or chemistry test they are worried about.

What makes you think the protesters are majoring in something that requires either of those subjects?


Well, I don't think that UCD offers courses in lawn maintenance, so obviously the Messicans that are there are studying for their space program.
 
2014-05-04 12:46:37 PM

Noah_Tall: What do you want to bet that not a single one of the protestors was Hispanic?


Well, it did occur during the middle of the day...
 
2014-05-04 12:52:53 PM
Why do I suspect the only people who have a problem with this are white people. How many mexicans do you think saw this and said to themselves "ow my feelings" probably not many of them.

this hyper sensitivity to racism both real and imagined needs to stop. It makes it far harder to address actual problems when some clown cries racist every time someone points out peoples differences, or has a laugh at them.

same shiatheads probably think chris rock is hilarious.
 
2014-05-04 12:53:38 PM

DubyaHater: "Hey look, liberals are the real racists"


wut
 
2014-05-04 12:55:56 PM

mooseyfate: call all of Latin America spics or Mexicans


I was seeing this girl for a while who was half Cuban. I always jokingly called her Mexican. She was also pretty good in bed. fark your sensitivity.
 
2014-05-04 12:57:59 PM
Thread needs more Al Madrigal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVMO13CTsj4
 
2014-05-04 12:59:45 PM

serial_crusher: GrymReeper: Which "race" are we addressing, here?

The race to outrun the border patrol.


Hahaha that's pretty funny. Now I need a new coffe and a mop. Thanks for the morning laugh.
 
2014-05-04 01:00:15 PM

Prey4reign: "What kind of message are you trying to send?" student Edwin Roque said, calling the party theme offensive.

Come to our party and get muy shiatfaced, I assume.


Hell yea, I'd definitely be at the party when I was in college. Really, any excuse to get hammered and hit on slutty girls all night.

Would the people at the protest really be welcomed at the party or really any party that doesn't include a white guilt feel good discussion?
 
2014-05-04 01:04:54 PM
www.theaggie.org
 
2014-05-04 01:07:02 PM
UC Davis Chancellor Linda P.B. Katehi told the newspaper she believed that adding a mandatory diversity course could prevent future controversies like this one.

Do people actually think shiat courses like those matter?
 
2014-05-04 01:08:17 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: [www.theaggie.org image 471x471]


This is worse than the holocaust
 
2014-05-04 01:27:00 PM

Frank N Stein: UC Davis Chancellor Linda P.B. Katehi told the newspaper she believed that adding a mandatory diversity course could prevent future controversies like this one.

Do people actually think shiat courses like those matter?


Yes, they cost the student the same amount per credit hour as a chemistry class, but at much less cost to the university.
What's not to like?
 
2014-05-04 01:29:44 PM
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2014-05-04 01:30:34 PM

tlchwi02: FloridaFarkTag: geoduck42: ghare: I think the main issue is, we're not still getting boats of Irish showing up. The Irish have had time to get over it and have fun with it.

Of course I could be wrong.

And Irish people are no longer actively discriminated against in the US. Today's Latinos don't have it as bad as blacks, but yeah. You pull this crap, you're kicking down. Aim your shots at those above you.

Of course, one of the largest Mexican and Hispanic rights groups is called The Race (La Raza)....and Irish Americans do not actively join the IRA here in the US

you do realize that plenty of irish americans did join the IRA during the troubles, right? heck, a sitting US congressman- steve king of NY- is notorious for his public support of the IRA.

but in that spirit, plenty of people regularly order irish car bombs and black and tans at bars without batting an eye in the US, so i don't see why this is so outrageous


One of my favorite sushi dishes is called the "Crazy Irishman." It's really tasty.
 
2014-05-04 01:31:22 PM
How many of us latinos are actually complaining about the term "Cinco de Drinko"? Until I know the numbers, I'm inclined to think this story is 100% bullshiat.
 
2014-05-04 01:35:02 PM

mofa: How many of us latinos are actually complaining about the term "Cinco de Drinko"? Until I know the numbers, I'm inclined to think this story is 100% bullshiat.


White people are the self appointed protectors of minorities. They probably don't know they're being oppressed, but never fear. Smart (white) people like Professor Linda from tfa are here to educate them. Also, she gets to pad her resume in the process. It's a win-win
 
2014-05-04 01:45:24 PM

Frank N Stein: mofa: How many of us latinos are actually complaining about the term "Cinco de Drinko"? Until I know the numbers, I'm inclined to think this story is 100% bullshiat.

White people are the self appointed protectors of minorities. They probably don't know they're being oppressed, but never fear. Smart (white) people like Professor Linda from tfa are here to educate them. Also, she gets to pad her resume in the process. It's a win-win


Actually, the charge appears to be led by a woman with the surname Villegas:

Michelle Villegas
Chicana/o Studies & Psychology Major
UC Davis Alumni 2012


"We, as concerned students of UC Davis and community members, would like to declare our utter offense and disgust with an off campus event organized by UC Davis students.

It has been brought to our attention that a "Cinco de Drinko Sloshball" Facebook event page was created by UC Davis Coffee House (CoHo) student employees earlier this week. The event is a party intended to have attendees dress in "festive" attire, meaning stereotypical "Mexican" dress (a sombrero and sarape, fake mustache, etc.). In addition, attendees are given an image that demonstrates the attire they should wear, which includes a border patrol officer costume. These images are hurtful to our community and only serve to create a hostile campus climate by sending a message of disregard and disrespect for the Chican@/Latin@ and Undocumented/Immigrant campus community.

Cinco de Mayo is a holiday that marks and celebrates the victory over French rule that was momentous for the state of Puebla, Mexico. This holiday is often manipulated by individuals who use inaccurate images of Mexican culture and affiliate it strongly with alcoholic consumption, despite the fact that there is no real correlation between the two. Many student organizations around the nation, including UC Davis's own Delta Chi Fraternity, host these types of events and encourage the student community to engage in these racist actions. Many justify it by saying that these are "harmless" events and that attendees are "just trying to have fun." However, when the communities that are mocked are communities that struggle on a daily basis to have to prove their worth at academic institutions, they are indeed harmful. They invisibilize and make a joke of the lives of students that are historically underrepresented and underserved at the University. The fact that the student employees, who represent the face of the University, planned this event, are perpetuating this ignorance with no sensitivity towards the Chican@/Latin@ and undocumented/immigrant community on our campus, is a reflection of the lack of respect for different cultures and student experiences.

Lastly, it is ironic that this event is scheduled to take place on the same day as La Gran Tardeada (the culmination of La Raza Cultural Days), which in turn marginalizes the Chican@/Latin@ community on campus even further. It is also an indication of where the campuswide community stands when it comes to cultural competency and understanding and upholding our UC Davis Principles of Community. La Raza Cultural Days and other cultural celebrations during the year are often denied adequate support. Regretful events, such as this "party," tell us that we have not come as far as we'd like to claim with cultural competency and need to support these programs every opportunity possible. This "Cinco de Drinko Sloshball" event invalidates years of work from multiple organizations, student centers, departments and students on a day that ironically is meant to celebrate and unite the community.

Students planning and participating in this event should be trained to understand why these events are hurtful, offensive, and backward. Despite the years of progress that have been made by strides in the Chican@/Latin@ community at UC Davis, these racist actions remind us that there is still much work to be done. We urge UC Davis and the CoHo to hold its student employees accountable for their actions and take appropriate and effective steps forward to ensure that these types of events will not take place again.

Sincerely,
Concerned Students and Community Members of UC Davis
Michelle Villegas
Chicana/o Studies & Psychology Major
UC Davis Alumni 2012
m­vi­llega­s­[nospam-﹫-backwards]siv­a­dcu­*e­d­u"
 
2014-05-04 01:51:42 PM

mooseyfate: haolegirl: Is there any Mexican people ANYWHERE upset by this, or is it all manufactured? Going on class/field type trips with my daughter when she was in HS circa 2007 we would pass Mexican guys standing on the corners selling fruit (SoCal) and her Mexican classmates would all say shiat about that being a cousin or some other family member and in general crack jokes. This current generation of kids needs to grow up quick n teach the adults not to get their panties in a knot over every damn thing.

Not saying this is a huge, important issue, but claiming "they do it, we can do it to" is just lazy logic. I see people do this all the time. "My friend/spouse/brother-in-law makes fun of Hispanics and he's a Hispanic, so it's not wrong if I do it!" And it wouldn't be. If they weren't assholes about it. If you think having a vaguely Hispanic friend makes it okay to call all of Latin America spics or Mexicans, you're part of the problem, not part of the solution. Which is fine, just don't act like you're doing something noble or endearing.


A small but important difference between "they do, we can do it too" and "they don't care, so why should we" I was going for the latter.
 
2014-05-04 02:00:11 PM

soporific: One of my favorite sushi dishes is called the "Crazy Irishman." It's really tasty.


never seen that one, whats in it?
 
2014-05-04 02:00:27 PM
Witness99:
Well I'll do a little response to her complains...

It has been brought to our attention that a "Cinco de Drinko Sloshball" Facebook event page was created by UC Davis Coffee House (CoHo) student employees earlier this week. The event is a party intended to have attendees dress in "festive" attire, meaning stereotypical "Mexican" dress (a sombrero and sarape, fake mustache, etc.). In addition, attendees are given an image that demonstrates the attire they should wear, which includes a border patrol officer costume. These images are hurtful to our community and only serve to create a hostile campus climate by sending a message of disregard and disrespect for the Chican@/Latin@ and Undocumented/Immigrant campus community.

How are these images hurtful? You claim it creates a hostile campus climate, but you don't show how.

Many student organizations around the nation, including UC Davis's own Delta Chi Fraternity, host these types of events and encourage the student community to engage in these racist actions.

Mexican isn't a race. By definition, this isn't racist.

Many justify it by saying that these are "harmless" events and that attendees are "just trying to have fun." However, when the communities that are mocked are communities that struggle on a daily basis to have to prove their worth at academic institutions, they are indeed harmful.

This doesn't really make much sense. You're not connecting your ideas. How is this not harmless, and how does this "mocking", if it is indeed such (which you have explained how), connect with the supposed struggles of an undefined community?

They invisibilize and make a joke of the lives of students

But professor, earlier in the article you alluded that this event is bad because of the stereotype involved. Stereotypes are general and broad. But now you say that this makes a joke of the "lives" of students, which indicates that they are being made fun of on a deeply personal level. Which one is it?

That's all, didn't want to read the rest.
 
2014-05-04 02:05:10 PM
Witness99:

Haha. I just realized she isn't a professor. That explains a lot.
 
2014-05-04 02:07:06 PM
"Chican@/Latin@ " -- DAFUQ?  When did this abomination start?

Admittedly, I'm more of a spic than a wetback, but I think we're forgetting the bigger picture: today is May the Fourth Be With You, so I vote we all just make a sink-o full of margarit-os and get drunk-o for the next two day-os.

// Now, nobody start singing the Banana Boat Song, because that would distract us from our outrage.
 
2014-05-04 02:14:07 PM

Superjew: Cinco De Mayo was invented in California, so we can do whatever the hell we want with it.

Lazy Mexicans, stealing America's ideas.  Get your own damn holidays.

(Yes I know latinos came up with it, but they were employed by Americans in California at the time.  It's called "work for hire", look it up.)


Nope, it was all started by the Gambrinus company to see Corona

http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/05/03/5789676/the-cinco-de-mayo-ba tt le-was-in.html
 
2014-05-04 02:14:57 PM

happydude45: Superjew: Cinco De Mayo was invented in California, so we can do whatever the hell we want with it.

Lazy Mexicans, stealing America's ideas.  Get your own damn holidays.

(Yes I know latinos came up with it, but they were employed by Americans in California at the time.  It's called "work for hire", look it up.)

Nope, it was all started by the Gambrinus company to see Corona

http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/05/03/5789676/the-cinco-de-mayo-ba tt le-was-in.html


That is, to sell. Sell Corona.
 
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