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(Action A Go-Go)   The most influential and ripped off movie ever is not Citizen Kane, Casablanca, Star Wars, or Jaws. Hell, it was never even made   (actionagogo.com) divider line 55
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2014-05-04 09:22:24 AM  
I am totally not downloading this right now. Back in a couple hours!!
 
2014-05-04 09:50:43 AM  
Just saw this the other day at the local theater. It was pretty interesting.  I don't know if it would have been a "good" movie (it certainly would have been terrible as an adaptation), but it definitely would have been memorable.
 
2014-05-04 10:01:30 AM  
Looks good.
 
2014-05-04 10:05:15 AM  
Meh. It's no Sludge Monster Meets Vermin Man. The original of course, not the dire remake.
 
2014-05-04 10:06:03 AM  

"The most influential and ripped off movie ever is not Citizen Kane, Casablanca, Star Wars, or Jaws. Hell, it was never even made"


Except for that phrase, I would have guessed "Pulp Fiction" would have been among the most influential and ripped off.

 
2014-05-04 10:06:10 AM  
Eh, that was chock full of hyperbole.
 
2014-05-04 10:08:02 AM  
Well, the article and the trailer did little to convince me... All claims, no proof.
 
2014-05-04 10:09:35 AM  
subby is quite funny, given that Star Wars is a blatant rip off.
 
2014-05-04 10:10:36 AM  
Isn't this the documentary about the movie that was never made?

Could've sworn I'd seen it on Netflix or Prime but I can't find it anymore.
 
2014-05-04 10:18:05 AM  
Makes David Lynch look like Ed Wood.
 
2014-05-04 10:23:39 AM  

Leader O'Cola: subby is quite funny, given that Star Wars is a blatant rip off.


This.  The ancient Sumerians ought to sue Lucas' pants off.
 
2014-05-04 10:27:34 AM  

jrodr018: Well, the article and the trailer did little to convince me... All claims, no proof.


Even the movie itself doesn't really focus on the "most influential thing ever" stuff.  95% of the film is about Jodorosky himself and him gathering his production team.  Only about the last ten minutes bothers with the "here are where the movie influenced future films".
 
2014-05-04 10:31:12 AM  
I see where Omni got a lot of content.
 
2014-05-04 10:36:21 AM  
I stopped reading when he misspelled Moebius.
 
2014-05-04 10:48:27 AM  
I'd happily subscribe to TotalFark if it meant I could set up a filter to auto-ignore all links from Action A-Go-Go.

I used to think Den of Geek was the nadir of enthusiast websites trolling for links on Fark. Action A-Go-Go showed me how wrong I was.
 
2014-05-04 10:56:16 AM  
I think if Jodorowsky had actually made Dune it would have been a fantastic movie, but it would have born little resemblance to the book. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, see: Blade Runner.
 
2014-05-04 10:57:32 AM  

Bslim: Eh, that was chock full of hyperbole.


Clearly you're not familiar with Jodorowsky.
 
2014-05-04 11:03:45 AM  

skinink: "The most influential and ripped off movie ever is not Citizen Kane, Casablanca, Star Wars, or Jaws. Hell, it was never even made"
Except for that phrase, I would have guessed "Pulp Fiction" would have been among the most influential and ripped off.


"High Noon" and "7 Samurai" might get some votes as well.
 
2014-05-04 11:12:44 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: I think if Jodorowsky had actually made Dune it would have been a fantastic movie, but it would have born little resemblance to the book. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, see: Blade Runner.


To be fair, the Dune movie that did get made resembles the book everywhere except where it counts.  The gross-creepy stuff (like heartplugs) that were thrown in for seemingly no reason have a habit of detracting too much from the parts where the movie follows the book tolerably well.

Basically, if you're going to throw in enough new content that the movie is clearly different from the book, you may as well go whole hog.
 
2014-05-04 11:14:42 AM  
I'm sorry, the most influential sci-fi movie ever was actually made, and it was called Metropolis.
 
2014-05-04 11:19:24 AM  

nmrsnr: I'm sorry, the most influential sci-fi movie ever was actually made, and it was called Metropolis.


Seconded.
 
2014-05-04 11:22:04 AM  

yukichigai: Tyrone Slothrop: I think if Jodorowsky had actually made Dune it would have been a fantastic movie, but it would have born little resemblance to the book. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, see: Blade Runner.

To be fair, the Dune movie that did get made resembles the book everywhere except where it counts.  The gross-creepy stuff (like heartplugs) that were thrown in for seemingly no reason have a habit of detracting too much from the parts where the movie follows the book tolerably well.

Basically, if you're going to throw in enough new content that the movie is clearly different from the book, you may as well go whole hog.


I agree.  If you want an actual adaptation of Dune, you have to go with the Sci-Fi miniseries, which did a pretty decent job.  Lynch's version was okay, but I can't see it making a whole lot of sense if you hadn't read the book beforehand.  Jodorosky's version was going to be completely different, aside from the character names and the basic premise.
 
2014-05-04 11:22:53 AM  

nmrsnr: I'm sorry, the most influential sci-fi movie ever was actually made, and it was called Metropolis.


Worth repeating.

The number of non-SF films more influential than this non-existent Dune is so long as to be unstartable... FWIW Jaws was may more influential than Star Wars, because it defined the summer blockbuster.
 
2014-05-04 11:22:54 AM  

KipKips: nmrsnr: I'm sorry, the most influential sci-fi movie ever was actually made, and it was called Metropolis.

Seconded.


Thirded.

Though again, fairness, I'm not sure if the movie is influential so much as just being the first movie to put a lot of common sci-fi concepts to film.  Quite a few films (and games, and TV shows) that seem inspired by Metropolis were made by people who have (at least according to them) never seen it.  That said, it puts a WHOLE BUNCH of those concepts to film in a way that works really well.  Definitely ahead of its time.
 
2014-05-04 11:30:45 AM  

Any Pie Left: Makes David Lynch look like Ed Wood.


Nuts.
 
2014-05-04 11:32:32 AM  

yukichigai: Quite a few films (and games, and TV shows) that seem inspired by Metropolis were made by people who have (at least according to them) never seen it.


But did they see something that copied it from Metropolis? If they say, "oh, i was inspired by show X that used people as mere cogs in a machine" and that show was inspired by Metropolis, then those people aren't liars, they just don't know the full provenance of their ideas.

I agree, though, Metropolis didn't invent everything it's known for, but it put them all in a brilliant package for easy consumption.
 
2014-05-04 11:42:15 AM  

Leader O'Cola: subby is quite funny, given that Star Wars is a blatant rip off.


If you start listing everything Star Wars ripped off, the list gets so long that it turns into proof that Star Wars is original.
 
2014-05-04 11:44:25 AM  
Sorry, that looks awful.

Santa Sangre is awesome though.

It has an elepehant in a coffin(that gets eaten by the towns people) a big tittied tattooed lady, midgets, cross dresser, acid flung on some guys junk, lady gets her arms cut off, and a nurse takes a bunch of retarded kids to a whorehouse(after he gets them coked up).
 
2014-05-04 11:53:16 AM  

Flint Ironstag: Meh. It's no Sludge Monster Meets Vermin Man. The original of course, not the dire remake.


Waitaminute.  Michael Moore and Bill Maher starred in a movie together?
 
2014-05-04 12:03:22 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: Flint Ironstag: Meh. It's no Sludge Monster Meets Vermin Man. The original of course, not the dire remake.

Waitaminute.  Michael Moore and Bill Maher starred in a movie together?


Eww. It's like the politics tab gave the entertainment tab herpes and you are a particularly unsightly cold sore.
 
2014-05-04 12:09:10 PM  

Flint Ironstag: Meh. It's no Sludge Monster Meets Vermin Man. The original of course, not the dire remake.


The remake wasn't all that bad.

It did give us some memorable lines after all.

"you would be mad too if you had been radioactive for the last century!"

"now that is what I call a melted cheese sandwich!
 
2014-05-04 12:14:15 PM  

insano: Dr Jack Badofsky: Flint Ironstag: Meh. It's no Sludge Monster Meets Vermin Man. The original of course, not the dire remake.

Waitaminute.  Michael Moore and Bill Maher starred in a movie together?

Eww. It's like the politics tab gave the entertainment tab herpes and you are a particularly unsightly cold sore.


I hope the Entertainment tab does not look on its dresser in the next few minutes.  It might notice cab money is missing...

/Entertainment tab is a  freak!
 
2014-05-04 12:36:01 PM  
Manos II: Knees of Boogaloo?
 
2014-05-04 12:50:08 PM  
Sorry, but the most influential and ripped off movie ever was made, and by virtue of being exhibited to a paying public in what was the first commercial movie theater, influenced everything that followed.

i90.photobucket.com
 
2014-05-04 01:14:54 PM  
It's only influential because he assembled an A-team of artists and talent who got dispersed after being convinced the storyboards were going to be the start of an epic undertaking.

But was he going to rotoscope the live action people into cartoons, or was he going to go Pete's Dragon and have the live players and animated overlaid?
 
2014-05-04 01:17:20 PM  

Nem Wan: Leader O'Cola: subby is quite funny, given that Star Wars is a blatant rip off.

If you start listing everything Star Wars ripped off, the list gets so long that it turns into proof that Star Wars is original.


In terms of actual content (not design elements like C3PO being inspired by Metropolis) Star Wars (A New Hope) basically seems to be Hidden Fortress set on Dune by a Flash Gordon fan.
 
2014-05-04 01:26:26 PM  
I don't think Jodorowsky's films have aged very well
 
2014-05-04 01:32:42 PM  

skinink: Except for that phrase, I would have guessed "Pulp Fiction" would have been among the most influential and ripped off.


A movie from a director who primarily homages(or rips off, if you agree with his critics) his favorite movies and directors.  I guess there are a few that are ripoffs, like Boondock Saints(though the action is much more reminiscent of a poor man's John Woo), but if you're going to pick an action move that was the most influential and ripped off, I'd pick Die Hard.  Pulp Fiction's formula hasn't nearly been as ripped off as Die Hard, and I'd suggest that it was an influence on Pulp Fiction
 
2014-05-04 02:03:30 PM  
oh look, it's this boring thread again
 
2014-05-04 02:08:48 PM  

CptnSpldng: skinink: "The most influential and ripped off movie ever is not Citizen Kane, Casablanca, Star Wars, or Jaws. Hell, it was never even made"
Except for that phrase, I would have guessed "Pulp Fiction" would have been among the most influential and ripped off.

"High Noon" and "7 Samurai" might get some votes as well.


"High Noon" was a rip-off of OUTLAND.

IJOC
 
2014-05-04 02:23:53 PM  
Never been made? Highlander 2: the Quickening, subby?

/never seen it
 
2014-05-04 02:27:07 PM  

bhcompy: A movie from a director who primarily homages(or rips off, if you agree with his critics) his favorite movies and directors


I think Pulp Fiction is the only original movie Tarantino made.
 
2014-05-04 02:29:58 PM  
I'm a huge fan of Jodorowski, but he is clearly in a niche with a handful of art film directors who people think are more influential than they really are.

I'm sure I've seen or will see journal articles on the influence of "Woman in the Dunes" on "Gravity". They may have made sense, even. It doesn't mean I buy it causally.
 
2014-05-04 02:35:49 PM  

HaveTrowelWillTravel: Nem Wan: Leader O'Cola: subby is quite funny, given that Star Wars is a blatant rip off.

If you start listing everything Star Wars ripped off, the list gets so long that it turns into proof that Star Wars is original.

In terms of actual content (not design elements like C3PO being inspired by Metropolis) Star Wars (A New Hope) basically seems to be Hidden Fortress set on Dune by a Flash Gordon fan.


Don't forget the Award ceremony stolen from Leni Refenstahl.
 
2014-05-04 03:31:40 PM  
Might not have been a great film, but it would have been an awesome episode of MST3K.
 
2014-05-04 07:49:07 PM  

insano: Dr Jack Badofsky: Flint Ironstag: Meh. It's no Sludge Monster Meets Vermin Man. The original of course, not the dire remake.

Waitaminute.  Michael Moore and Bill Maher starred in a movie together?

Eww. It's like the politics tab gave the entertainment tab herpes and you are a particularly unsightly cold sore.


What do you mean? He's talking about Michael Moore, writer and director of Canadian Bacon, and Bill Maher, star of  Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death.Why you gotta bring politics into it?
 
2014-05-04 07:57:11 PM  
(sorry in advance for the wall of text. Dune is my favorite science fiction book - period. and it's been bothering me for 3 decades that Lynch, who's interesting even when he makes a bad film, could fark this up so much)


The first time I heard about this, I couldn't help thinking that there was another universe (maybe the same one where Eric Stoltz was in Back to the Future) where he released his film. And I wanted to live in that universe.

Mind you, when David Lynch is fully engaged and passionate about a film he's making, he does amazing things, but he only took the job to keep the momentum he was building ( Eraserhead was already a cult classic and had become an art-house favorite and his his last film, Elephant Man was a critical and commercial success earning 8 Oscar nominations, including Director).

He had no appreciation for Herbert's vision (he'd never read the book and wasn't even a fan of sci-fi) and instead of taking the source material and trimming or altering what doesn't work cinematically (the way a good film adaptation does it), Lynch's script makes major changes to several key ideas from the book from the book for no real reason (i.e. the farking weirding modules) and completely ignores the parts of the story that build the primary themes and concepts Herbert spent 6 years developing (when he wasn't writing, he was studying - learning everything he could about a wide range of subjects from linguistics, the fall of empires, messianic religions, ecology and so on) - the concepts he built the entire novel around, resulting in a novel that, along with a handful of his contemporaries (Vonnegut, PK Dick, JG Ballard, William Burroughs) moved away from the bug eyed aliens, and juvenile space operas of the pulp days and had to be regarded as seriously as anything by Hemingway or Steinbeck.


/The really sad thing is, if you've seen any of Jodorowsky's films, it's pretty clear that he would have not only understood the deeper themes of the book, he would have appreciated them because he covers much of the same ground (albeit in a completely different way)
 
2014-05-04 08:15:36 PM  

KipKips: nmrsnr: I'm sorry, the most influential sci-fi movie ever was actually made, and it was called Metropolis.

Seconded.


P
What's amazed me is that no one has tried to remake that wonderful movie...
 
2014-05-04 08:44:17 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: KipKips: nmrsnr: I'm sorry, the most influential sci-fi movie ever was actually made, and it was called Metropolis.

Seconded.

P
What's amazed me is that no one has tried to remake that wonderful movie...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_%282001_film%29
 
2014-05-04 09:11:21 PM  
Saw the Lynch version of "Dune" in the theaters - I knew we were in for trouble when they handed us a flyer as we walked in explaining the movie and characters.
 
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