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2014-05-03 03:54:05 PM
The age of consent in Delaware is 18, but it is legal for teenagers aged 16 and 17 to engage in sexual intercourse as long as the older partner is younger than 30.

Ooo, so close!


/they met on Grindr
 
2014-05-03 03:55:48 PM
With giant pic of Beau Biden atop the story? WTF???
 
2014-05-03 04:28:43 PM

Speaker2Animals: With giant pic of Beau Biden atop the story? WTF???


Yeah, I was about to ask the same thing. Is Biden Derangement Syndrome a thing now, too?
 
2014-05-03 04:41:31 PM

Speaker2Animals: With giant pic of Beau Biden atop the story? WTF???


I'm assuming it's because Beau Biden is Delaware's AG and the deputy AG is in essence one of his employees.
 
2014-05-03 05:33:06 PM

Bathia_Mapes: Speaker2Animals: With giant pic of Beau Biden atop the story? WTF???

I'm assuming it's because Beau Biden is Delaware's AG and the deputy AG is in essence one of his employees.


Eh, mostly legit.  I'll allow it.
 
2014-05-03 05:36:12 PM

Bathia_Mapes: Speaker2Animals: With giant pic of Beau Biden atop the story? WTF???

I'm assuming it's because Beau Biden is Delaware's AG and the deputy AG is in essence one of his employees.


Yeah, but a photo of the guy who did it would make more sense, unless they couldn't find a photo of the guy
 
2014-05-03 05:41:23 PM

Klippoklondike: Bathia_Mapes: Speaker2Animals: With giant pic of Beau Biden atop the story? WTF???

I'm assuming it's because Beau Biden is Delaware's AG and the deputy AG is in essence one of his employees.

Yeah, but a photo of the guy who did it would make more sense, unless they couldn't find a photo of the guy


You...you don't think it is a shallow effort to link this rape to Biden (both Beau and Joe)?  I mean, since when have shiatty reporters used cheap tricks for clicks and political gain?
 
2014-05-03 05:41:27 PM
I get that sex with a 16 year old is bad. But when it's a 16 year old you meet on grindr that changes my opinion of his innocence just a bit.
 
2014-05-03 05:42:07 PM

Klippoklondike: Bathia_Mapes: Speaker2Animals: With giant pic of Beau Biden atop the story? WTF???

I'm assuming it's because Beau Biden is Delaware's AG and the deputy AG is in essence one of his employees.

Yeah, but a photo of the guy who did it would make more sense, unless they couldn't find a photo of the guy


Maybe they couldn't find a face pic?
 
2014-05-03 05:43:41 PM

Klippoklondike: Bathia_Mapes: Speaker2Animals: With giant pic of Beau Biden atop the story? WTF???

I'm assuming it's because Beau Biden is Delaware's AG and the deputy AG is in essence one of his employees.

Yeah, but a photo of the guy who did it would make more sense, unless they couldn't find a photo of the guy


USA Today managed to find one:

www.gannett-cdn.com
 
2014-05-03 05:44:30 PM
Here's an article with a pic of the guy

Link
 
2014-05-03 05:48:06 PM
Biden also supported the judge that gave no jail time to the DuPont heir. Bidens always defendthet wealth over the masses. It was Joe tgat brought in the newer bankruptcy laws too. They are gold-dogging sacks of shiat. They are traitors.
 
2014-05-03 05:52:27 PM
Speaking as an editor, those who wrote TFA and picked the photo should be slapped repeatedly. No need for a jury here since the article convicted him. And how about a photo of the accused?

If USAT can find one, it couldn't have been that hard.
 
2014-05-03 05:53:48 PM

Nemo's Brother: Biden also supported the judge that gave no jail time to the DuPont heir. Bidens always defendthet wealth over the masses. It was Joe tgat brought in the newer bankruptcy laws too. They are gold-dogging sacks of shiat. They are traitors.


Are the members of the Illuminati or simply reptilians?
 
2014-05-03 05:55:26 PM

Speaker2Animals: With giant pic of Beau Biden atop the story? WTF???


I thought the same thing. If the reader just looks at the pic and the caption and didn't know anything about Delaware you'd think it was Biden's son. He even has a sad face on in the pic.
 
2014-05-03 06:01:01 PM
As long as the judge who gave the DuPont heir a pass gets a comeuppance, I'll be happy.
 
2014-05-03 06:02:14 PM
and under the pic was son of vice president joe bide
 not my typo its theirs
 
2014-05-03 06:04:04 PM

Igor Jakovsky: Speaker2Animals: With giant pic of Beau Biden atop the story? WTF???

I thought the same thing. If the reader just looks at the pic and the caption and didn't know anything about Delaware you'd think it was Biden's son. He even has a sad face on in the pic.


www.click2houston.com

It's Caturday. So Beau Biden has a sad.
 
2014-05-03 06:10:03 PM
Let's see under beau Biden's tenure as AG for Delaware a Dupont heir who RAPED a child received NO JAIL TIME in a decision that Beau signed off on and successfully kept hidden from the press for over a half a year. On the other hand a father who water boarded his daughter got a year in jail. Another verdict that beau Biden defended. In other words under Beau Biden, the rape of a child is NOT  punishable with jail time. No wonder the people working for him believed that their boss would look the other way if they molested kids.
 
2014-05-03 06:12:37 PM
my question is can you really call anyone on Grindr a victim?

If the guy pinned him down and forced it... that's rape (and also breaking a host of laws).

If the 16 year old wanted it... that's not rape, that's just breaking the age of consent law.

The real sad thing is due to daddy's money and his connections he will never spend a day in jail.

I could do something not even 1/2 as bad, say get a 16 year old girl to send me pics of her boobs. If I got caught, I'd be in prison, and branded a sexual predator for life ruining any chance for a fair shot at.... anything. (just for getting a pic of boobs mind you)

I don't mind punishing someone who breaks the law, I just want equal punishment for everyone that does the same stuff.
 
2014-05-03 06:20:07 PM
BizarreMan: the 'victim' was asking for it.

I'm not making a judgment on what you said is true or not, but you might as well phrase what you're saying in the traditional manner so that everyone can get on the same page. Kind of disingenuous to beat around the bush when the proper phrasing is already well known.
 
2014-05-03 07:16:47 PM
Just had to say that is seems in rather poor taste to have an ad for Durex condoms to be running beside an article about underage rape.
 
2014-05-03 07:26:35 PM
 
2014-05-03 07:33:33 PM

Klippoklondike: Here's an article with a pic of the guy

Link


He looks kinda like Frank Burns with that ferret face.
 
2014-05-03 07:49:44 PM
Unfortunately, that is the way statutory rape laws work.  The victim could have been met at a bar with a seemingly valid drivers license saying there 21 and even presented a forged birth certificate so the defendant had no idea they were a minor.  If you have sex with anyone under the age of consent no matter the circumstances and seeming legality of it, that is statutory rape.
 
2014-05-03 07:52:53 PM

BizarreMan: I get that sex with a 16 year old is bad. But when it's a 16 year old you meet on grindr that changes my opinion of his innocence just a bit.


The vast majority of 16 year olds ain't that innocent, and they've very much hit sexual maturity. In fact, that's about when humans are most fertile- when nature says we should be boinking. Having sex with 16 year olds isn't bad, it's a normal part of the human condition. However, having sex with 16 year olds is often illegal thanks to our long tradition of ridiculously puritanical laws, so is best avoided.
 
2014-05-03 07:53:56 PM
 
2014-05-03 07:54:24 PM

Daedalus27: Unfortunately, that is the way statutory rape laws work.  The victim could have been met at a bar with a seemingly valid drivers license saying there 21 and even presented a forged birth certificate so the defendant had no idea they were a minor.  If you have sex with anyone under the age of consent no matter the circumstances and seeming legality of it, that is statutory rape.


I'm pretty sure most people are aware of the fact that that's how it does work. But that doesn't stop the law from being entirely ridiculous.
 
2014-05-03 07:54:38 PM
Oops. My link above is SFW.
 
2014-05-03 08:02:47 PM

BizarreMan: I get that sex with a 16 year old is bad. But when it's a 16 year old you meet on grindr that changes my opinion of his innocence just a bit.


De facto, sure; but not de jure.  Hence the term "jail bait."

People and sex.  Sheesh. :/
 
2014-05-03 08:18:07 PM

fusillade762: Klippoklondike: Bathia_Mapes: Speaker2Animals: With giant pic of Beau Biden atop the story? WTF???

I'm assuming it's because Beau Biden is Delaware's AG and the deputy AG is in essence one of his employees.

Yeah, but a photo of the guy who did it would make more sense, unless they couldn't find a photo of the guy

USA Today managed to find one:

[www.gannett-cdn.com image 534x401]


Yipe.  My outie just became an innie.
 
2014-05-03 09:22:24 PM
Fox News talking heads must be drooling all over themselves.
 
2014-05-03 10:37:22 PM
It says he's vers up on his Grindr....versatile? Yeah, ok. Gurl you know you're super gay....oooooooohhh ohhhhhhh ho ho.....
 
2014-05-03 10:38:16 PM
/zero feet away.
 
2014-05-03 10:43:21 PM

Snort: Nemo's Brother: Biden also supported the judge that gave no jail time to the DuPont heir. Bidens always defendthet wealth over the masses. It was Joe tgat brought in the newer bankruptcy laws too. They are gold-dogging sacks of shiat. They are traitors.

Are the members of the Illuminati or simply reptilians?


Reptilinaughtys actually.
 
2014-05-03 11:26:55 PM

That Guy Jeff: BizarreMan: the 'victim' was asking for it.

I'm not making a judgment on what you said is true or not, but you might as well phrase what you're saying in the traditional manner so that everyone can get on the same page. Kind of disingenuous to beat around the bush when the proper phrasing is already well known.


It's my understanding that meeting someone on Grindr is, in essence, quite literally asking for it.  Is it an incorrect assumption that Grindr is a gay hook-up app?  And don't you have to at least claim to be 18 or older to sign up for Grindr?  (Checks terms of service - yep)

Calling this rape seems disingenuous at best, unless there is something we aren't being told about this situation.  At the very least, the 16 year old misrepresented his age, and we know that to be fact simply because he was on Grindr.
 
2014-05-03 11:40:08 PM

DarkVader: That Guy Jeff: BizarreMan: the 'victim' was asking for it.

I'm not making a judgment on what you said is true or not, but you might as well phrase what you're saying in the traditional manner so that everyone can get on the same page. Kind of disingenuous to beat around the bush when the proper phrasing is already well known.

It's my understanding that meeting someone on Grindr is, in essence, quite literally asking for it.  Is it an incorrect assumption that Grindr is a gay hook-up app?  And don't you have to at least claim to be 18 or older to sign up for Grindr?  (Checks terms of service - yep)

Calling this rape seems disingenuous at best, unless there is something we aren't being told about this situation.  At the very least, the 16 year old misrepresented his age, and we know that to be fact simply because he was on Grindr.


Like I said, I'm not judging what you said. I just want to make sure you honestly represent your position, which is that the victim in a rape case was asking for it.
 
2014-05-03 11:48:09 PM

InterruptingQuirk: The age of consent in Delaware is 18, but it is legal for teenagers aged 16 and 17 to engage in sexual intercourse as long as the older partner is younger than 30.

Ooo, so close!


/they met on Grindr


WHAT!?

What's the point of drawing the line at 30? Do they think that a 31 year old has such mastery of the sexual arts that a U-18 simply can't handle it?
 
2014-05-03 11:56:30 PM

LoneWolf343: InterruptingQuirk: The age of consent in Delaware is 18, but it is legal for teenagers aged 16 and 17 to engage in sexual intercourse as long as the older partner is younger than 30.

Ooo, so close!


/they met on Grindr

WHAT!?

What's the point of drawing the line at 30? Do they think that a 31 year old has such mastery of the sexual arts that a U-18 simply can't handle it?


I'll assume they were going to make 18, then someone said the same thing about 19 year olds, then someone said the same thing about 20 year olds, etc, up until they said "ALRIGHT, STOP." and at that point the age was 30.

By the way, age of consent isn't about "mastery of the sexual arts", it's about people being in a position of authority and having a much greater ability to exploit someone else. Kids are stupid, and at a certain point people are old enough for the power imbalance to become unacceptable to the concept of consent. Where that line is marked is of course variable by every individual, but laws can't be written that way so they make up a number.
 
2014-05-03 11:58:35 PM

That Guy Jeff: LoneWolf343: InterruptingQuirk: The age of consent in Delaware is 18, but it is legal for teenagers aged 16 and 17 to engage in sexual intercourse as long as the older partner is younger than 30.

Ooo, so close!


/they met on Grindr

WHAT!?

What's the point of drawing the line at 30? Do they think that a 31 year old has such mastery of the sexual arts that a U-18 simply can't handle it?

I'll assume they were going to make 18, then someone said the same thing about 19 year olds, then someone said the same thing about 20 year olds, etc, up until they said "ALRIGHT, STOP." and at that point the age was 30.

By the way, age of consent isn't about "mastery of the sexual arts", it's about people being in a position of authority and having a much greater ability to exploit someone else. Kids are stupid, and at a certain point people are old enough for the power imbalance to become unacceptable to the concept of consent. Where that line is marked is of course variable by every individual, but laws can't be written that way so they make up a number.


I get why AoC exists, but why 30? That doesn't make any sense. 20 would be an oddity, but 30 is just bizarre.
 
2014-05-04 12:35:08 AM

That Guy Jeff: DarkVader: That Guy Jeff: BizarreMan: the 'victim' was asking for it.

I'm not making a judgment on what you said is true or not, but you might as well phrase what you're saying in the traditional manner so that everyone can get on the same page. Kind of disingenuous to beat around the bush when the proper phrasing is already well known.

It's my understanding that meeting someone on Grindr is, in essence, quite literally asking for it.  Is it an incorrect assumption that Grindr is a gay hook-up app?  And don't you have to at least claim to be 18 or older to sign up for Grindr?  (Checks terms of service - yep)

Calling this rape seems disingenuous at best, unless there is something we aren't being told about this situation.  At the very least, the 16 year old misrepresented his age, and we know that to be fact simply because he was on Grindr.

Like I said, I'm not judging what you said. I just want to make sure you honestly represent your position, which is that the victim in a rape case was asking for it.


If this was forced non-consensual sex then it was without a doubt rape. If it was consensual sex resulting in statutory rape charges then yes the victim most likely did ask for it. It doesn't make it any better but it puts a different spin on it.
 
2014-05-04 04:11:13 AM

BizarreMan: That Guy Jeff: DarkVader: That Guy Jeff: BizarreMan: the 'victim' was asking for it.

I'm not making a judgment on what you said is true or not, but you might as well phrase what you're saying in the traditional manner so that everyone can get on the same page. Kind of disingenuous to beat around the bush when the proper phrasing is already well known.

It's my understanding that meeting someone on Grindr is, in essence, quite literally asking for it.  Is it an incorrect assumption that Grindr is a gay hook-up app?  And don't you have to at least claim to be 18 or older to sign up for Grindr?  (Checks terms of service - yep)

Calling this rape seems disingenuous at best, unless there is something we aren't being told about this situation.  At the very least, the 16 year old misrepresented his age, and we know that to be fact simply because he was on Grindr.

Like I said, I'm not judging what you said. I just want to make sure you honestly represent your position, which is that the victim in a rape case was asking for it.

If this was forced non-consensual sex then it was without a doubt rape. If it was consensual sex resulting in statutory rape charges then yes the victim most likely did ask for it. It doesn't make it any better but it puts a different spin on it.


Many states actually have exceptions to statutory rape laws that cover situations where the victim misrepresented themselves as being legally of age.  Now, this isn't just "He/she told me they were 18", but if you're at an over-21-only nightclub, for example, you have a reasonable expectation that anyone you encounter there will be over 21.  If Delaware has such an exception, this guy may well fall under its purview given Grindr's ToS

/I learned about Grindr from Stephen Fry on Top Gear
 
2014-05-04 05:51:27 AM
That's a hard 34.
 
2014-05-04 08:09:18 AM
If you don't want butt-sex, you should probably stay off of Grinder.

/just a thought
 
2014-05-04 07:07:02 PM

Europos: That's a hard 34.


He'll be getting a hard 7 every night.  Can you imagine how excited the guys in Cell Block C are feeling?
 
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