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2014-05-03 04:02:02 PM
How very Christ-like.
 
2014-05-03 04:02:27 PM
Thanks guys for making Texas look less bad.
 
2014-05-03 04:46:57 PM
Justice is mine, sayeth the Lord.
 
2014-05-03 05:13:39 PM
"So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her"

-Motherf*cking Jesus
 
2014-05-03 05:35:35 PM
Remember kids, the only Constitutional amendment that matters is the 2nd.
 
2014-05-03 06:04:27 PM
He really said that, a member of the State house, said that, no wonder America can't have nice things.

If we are going to kill people shouldn't we at least make it as humane as what we do to our pets?

And I would appreciate a follow up the next time this guy is up for re-election, because I would like to be surprised if this had negative feedback to him, yeah I doubt it too.
 
2014-05-03 06:10:20 PM
More evidence that the death penalty is all about revenge.
 
2014-05-03 06:32:43 PM

SilentStrider: How very Christ-like.


Some people interpret "love your enemy" quite strangely
 
2014-05-03 06:37:15 PM
The guy is a Christian who's okay with inmates? And he's being thrown to the lions? Woe are we!
 
2014-05-03 06:41:15 PM
Who Would Jesus Execute?
 
2014-05-03 06:43:09 PM
I guess the irony isn't lost on these pro-death penalty Christians that they worship a guy who was given the death penalty. Maybe we should just take it to the next level and crucify death row inmates on a hill?
 
2014-05-03 06:59:25 PM
Nice work, subby.
 
2014-05-03 07:06:50 PM
Comments on the site are a train wreck, of course.
 
2014-05-03 07:07:25 PM
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2014-05-03 07:12:02 PM
Well I'm ok with christians being fed to the lions, so ...
 
2014-05-03 07:12:11 PM

Soonerpsycho:


Sentencing the guy to death is not batting an eye? And expecting the government to be better than common murderers is bad?
 
2014-05-03 07:15:12 PM
Since Americans happy to sell out their govt to commercial interests, wouldn't it be consistent to turn executions into some form of public spectacle, like in the good old days

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2014-05-03 07:21:04 PM
The Republican lawmakers in Oklahoma are, for the most part, comprised of full fledged religious derp.

However, Mike does not have very clean hands: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Oklahoma_political_corruption_inves t igation
 
2014-05-03 07:22:35 PM

Soonerpsycho:


If the state is going to kill someone, they should perhaps have higher standards than the person the state is killing. As a citizen of a state which routinely kills criminals and whose governors brag about it, I know I'm aiming high, given that the Republicans are in charge in both states, but I'm an idealist.
 
2014-05-03 07:25:47 PM
Oh.. So he actually said that.  That's... Well, that's something, alright.....
 
2014-05-03 07:27:44 PM

Soonerpsycho: [d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net image 610x342]


Nice little meme. The question however is: Is the position presented by the guy in the article a "christian" one?
 
2014-05-03 07:30:46 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Justice is mine, sayeth the Lord.


The quote is  "Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord."

Therein lies the heart of this matter. When a murderer is sentenced to death, that is justice.

When a murderer is subjected to torture and prolonged suffering, that is vengeance.

I am pro-death penalty, but the idea of people cheering what happened last week is nothing short of bloodlust, and, if you believe that Bible quote, the state stepping in on God's turf.

Besides, if this guy is going to go to Hell anyway, wouldn't you want to get him there as fast as possible?
 
2014-05-03 07:32:41 PM
Vengeance is mine, quote Alvis.

Then he shot that guy in the frigging face.
 
2014-05-03 07:36:14 PM
Do State Representatives take an oath to uphold the Constitution?
Does the 8th Amendment forbid cruel and unusual punishment?
Did this guy just brag about being in favor of a variety of very cruel and unusual punishments?
Does the word "oath" mean something different in Okie-speak, or maybe they only last a few minutes there?
 
2014-05-03 07:40:20 PM

DeadPhelps: Nice work, subby.


/seconded
 
2014-05-03 07:46:22 PM

Soonerpsycho: [d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net image 610x342]


Nobody bats an eye over a girl getting murdered? What motherfarking planet are you on?
 
2014-05-03 07:55:43 PM

shower_in_my_socks: I guess the irony isn't lost on these pro-death penalty Christians that they worship a guy who was given the death penalty. Maybe we should just take it to the next level and crucify death row inmates on a hill?


Well they imagine Jesus is coming back soon, and when he does they will need to execute him again as soon as possible, I mean he could start spouting all that commie talk from the Bible they have spent 2000 years finding ways to reinterpret it to mean the exact opposite of what he said.
 
2014-05-03 08:04:51 PM

hardinparamedic: Vengeance is mine, quote Alvis.

Then he shot that guy in the frigging face.


He was the holiest man ever to slap iron.
 
2014-05-03 08:07:06 PM
I take no issue executing him. What I take issue with is the medical experiment they did to him which is literally the same thing the nazis did
 
2014-05-03 08:09:12 PM
Former OK state trooper. And calling for impeachment of state supreme court justices who dared second guess falling Mary.Wonder if he was the one she was sleeping with when she was Lt. Governor.
 
2014-05-03 08:10:50 PM

Soonerpsycho: [d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net image 610x342]


It has nothing to do with whether the murderer is a bad guy--which this one definitely was--or if he "deserved" to suffer when he died. It is not about "feeling sorry" for him, as someone opined the other day when I brought this up. It is whether we want to call ourselves a just and moral nation.

One of the hallmarks of a just and moral nation is the ability to extend justice and mercy to everyone--including those who by their actions seem not to deserve it. We must be able to give justice to the unjust and mercy to the merciless. And that means a fair trial with the protections of due process and a swift and painless execution to a cold-blooded murderer who tortured his victim to death.

Otherwise, we are NOT a just or moral nation, and our protestations to the contrary are so much noise--sound and fury, signifying nothing. A nation that is okay with torturing murderers to death because they deserve it cannot complain about, for instance, spying on its citizens--some of them deserve it--or oppressing its second-class citizens (or indeed having second-class citizens), or any of the other things we rightly complain about right here on Fark.

Justice and mercy are not severable--you can't be kind and decent to the majority and vicious and ruthless to the few because they deserve it and nobody cares. Various societies and institutions throughout history have thought they could do so, and none have succeeded. And the people who think this killer did not deserve anything better than he got might want to look back at the Inquisition or the Gulag to see what happens when you start thinking that way.
 
2014-05-03 08:13:34 PM
Okay, you know how you have a police force that takes all sorts of intoxicating substances off citizens to protect them from the effects of consuming said substances? Why not use those to execute criminals. I'm sure you can find someone to hook up a marijuana vaporizer to a gas mask and use those terrble terrble fumes to execute people.
 
2014-05-03 08:17:12 PM
Is he in favor of stoning for just for saying "Jehovah "?
 
2014-05-03 08:27:48 PM

Soonerpsycho: [d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net image 610x342]


In other news, arresting, convicting, and sentencing someone to death counts as "nobody bats an eye."
 
2014-05-03 08:28:40 PM

gnosis301: The guy is a Christian who's okay with inmates? And he's being thrown to the lions? Woe are we!


Also historically no Christians were ever fed to nor had to fight lions.

Whole thing amounts to an old-world version of FW:FW:FW:FW: MISTER NOT-PRESIDENT 0BAMA DECLARES ISLAM OFFICIAL US RELIGION!!!11!
 
2014-05-03 08:31:47 PM

vicioushobbit: hardinparamedic: Vengeance is mine, quote Alvis.

Then he shot that guy in the frigging face.

He was the holiest man ever to slap iron.


Then he got revenge on those freakin krebs.
 
2014-05-03 08:33:36 PM
The assertion that Christians were fed to the lions is a huge overblown myth. The Romans did indeed feed people to the the beasts--it was considered a form of entertainment--but lions were often not the first choice because they killed too quickly and thus weren't entertaining enough. The Romans also killed prosecuted Christians, killing many, but there is little evidence that they sent them to the beasts--they mostly just killed them outright. Did some Christians face the lions? Probably. But very few. There was no concentrated efforts to feed Christians to the lions, though.
 
2014-05-03 08:36:16 PM

stoli n coke: Besides, if this guy is going to go to Hell anyway, wouldn't you want to get him there as fast as possible?


That seems like odd logic. If the time you spend in hell is infinite, wouldn't it be irrelevant how long it takes him to get there? And if you really are a Christian, wouldn't you want to maximize the time he spends on Earth so that he might come to know Jesus? I mean, under that model, executing someone and thus depriving them of the opportunity to find salvation later in life is literally the most cruel, barbaric thing you could possibly do to someone.
 
2014-05-03 08:39:33 PM

Soonerpsycho: [d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net image 610x342]


Mega dittos from EIB southern command.
 
2014-05-03 08:40:22 PM

fusillade762: Remember kids, the only Constitutional amendment that matters is the 2nd.


When they're taking away the others, that IS the only one that matters if you wish to avoid slavery
 
2014-05-03 08:53:50 PM
 
2014-05-03 09:00:16 PM

Smeggy Smurf: fusillade762: Remember kids, the only Constitutional amendment that matters is the 2nd.

When they're taking away the others, that IS the only one that matters if you wish to avoid slavery get blown up by a drone from a few miles away


FTFY

We're long past the point where armed civilians are going to have even the slightest chance to stop the US military
 
2014-05-03 09:01:25 PM

shower_in_my_socks: Soonerpsycho: [d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net image 610x342]

Nobody bats an eye over a girl getting murdered? What motherfarking planet are you on?


...you looked at the planet you're on lately? Whole lotta girls get murdered all over the world and no one seems to care.
 
2014-05-03 09:05:06 PM

wildcardjack: Okay, you know how you have a police force that takes all sorts of intoxicating substances off citizens to protect them from the effects of consuming said substances? Why not use those to execute criminals. I'm sure you can find someone to hook up a marijuana vaporizer to a gas mask and use those terrble terrble fumes to execute people.


just give them a night night with a heroin OD after numbing the area with the confiscated cocaine.
 
2014-05-03 09:09:09 PM
I am pro-death penalty in an ideal society in which there are no crooked cops or prosecutors and where the criminal can be known to be guilty without any possible doubt.  We don't live in that society, and likely never will.

That said, is it really that hard to put humans to death humanely?  Honestly, is it that hard?  I am certainly no doctor, but wouldn't putting them under general anesthesia, then after they were clearly out doubling or quadrupling the dose work?  Maybe after they were totally out just giving them a huge dose of morphine or something.  Surely it can't be as hard as everyone makes it out to be.
 
2014-05-03 09:15:50 PM
Am I the only one who caught "Christian" in the headline?

/don't see where the article mentions his religion
//nice job subby
 
2014-05-03 09:17:25 PM

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Smeggy Smurf: fusillade762: Remember kids, the only Constitutional amendment that matters is the 2nd.

When they're taking away the others, that IS the only one that matters if you wish to avoid slavery get blown up by a drone from a few miles away

FTFY

We're long past the point where armed civilians are going to have even the slightest chance to stop the US military


That's assuming the military would take the side of a government that wants to execute citizens on American soil...
 
2014-05-03 09:19:27 PM

Truther: Am I the only one who caught "Christian" in the headline?

/don't see where the article mentions his religion
//nice job subby


FTFA:  Representative Mike Christian.

/a delightfully technical trolling.
//he's probably a self-proclaimed believer, too.
 
2014-05-03 09:21:27 PM

Commissar_Murphy: vicioushobbit: hardinparamedic: Vengeance is mine, quote Alvis.

Then he shot that guy in the frigging face.

He was the holiest man ever to slap iron.

Then he got revenge on those freakin krebs.


He killed for your sins.
 
2014-05-03 09:34:41 PM

Truther: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Smeggy Smurf: fusillade762: Remember kids, the only Constitutional amendment that matters is the 2nd.

When they're taking away the others, that IS the only one that matters if you wish to avoid slavery get blown up by a drone from a few miles away

FTFY

We're long past the point where armed civilians are going to have even the slightest chance to stop the US military

That's assuming the military would take the side of a government that wants to execute citizens on American soil...


That's assuming that it would be the government shooting first.  A more likely scenario is that we're going have another Bundy Ranch type of situation, but this time some AR-tard is going to go all Red Dawn and open fire on the feds, which will result in a whole lot of dead rednecks in short order.  The next US "Civil War" is going to be a bunch of delta force wannabes getting themselves and an untold number of bystanders killed.  The people who revere the 2nd Amendment over the entirety of the rest of the Constitution and its amendments vastly underestimate the level of support they have in the rest of the population, military personnel included.
 
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