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(BBC-US)   Jeremy Clarkson told he will be fired if he makes "one more offensive remark, anywhere, at any time". In other news, Top Gear will soon be looking for a new co-host   (bbc.com) divider line 82
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2014-05-03 03:34:13 PM  
The BBC won't fire Clarkson, he's the central host on one of the best rated and most watched shows in the world.
 
2014-05-03 03:54:58 PM  
Love the show, but this will be like trying to keep a toddler out of a cookie jar. He has the weakest verbal filter... in the world.
 
2014-05-03 04:05:58 PM  
Oh i'm sure they will figure out a way to incorporate it into the show. Probably have May or Hammond say something instead...or use flash cards or something.
 
2014-05-03 04:31:18 PM  

violentsalvation: The BBC won't fire Clarkson, he's the central host on one of the best rated and most watched shows... in the world.


Fixed.
 
2014-05-03 04:55:30 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: Love the show, but this will be like trying to keep a toddler out of a cookie jar. He has the weakest verbal filter... in the world.


Seriously, this. To censor clarkson, you'd pretty much just have to turn the microphone off the entire time. Actually, as this last scandal proves, you'd have to turn off the camera too.
 
2014-05-03 04:57:46 PM  
I kinda hoped everyone was going to finish their comments with ... in the world.
 
2014-05-03 04:59:15 PM  
Isn't he the guy who punched Peirs Morgan in the face?  As far as I'm concerned he can say whatever the fark he wants.
 
2014-05-03 04:59:17 PM  
Doesn't he own a large percentage of the rights to Top Gear now? That would mean presumably they would have to drop the show entirely to get rid of him, unless he left voluntarily.

Which may be for the best - the show's been going downhill the last few seasons anyway.
 
2014-05-03 04:59:32 PM  
Leave they guy alone, bunch of farking POOSEYS!
 
2014-05-03 05:01:15 PM  
His whole stchick is being an offensive asshole.  Thats why its funny.
 
2014-05-03 05:04:06 PM  
The whole issue is that it didn't air, it was an outtake.  Every TV host or presenter has misspoken and had to redo something. The fact is you can't follow anyone without them saying something that could be construed as offensive to one group or another. This is especially true given the nursery rhyme in the UK as he knew it growing up was quite different and offensive (not then but under todays standards). There was no hint of discriminatory intent with the usage.  If BBC doesn't like the word, they need to send warnings out to anyone ever appearing on it's shows, who has ever uttered the word.  That may put a crimp in their entertainment shows given the lyrics of many songs of some performers.

That fact that some minority groups get offended at his comments and speech is going to happen.  It is part of his shtick and what makes the show entertaining to a wide variety of audiences. You can't take an aspect of the show that has made it popular and strip it out and expect the same level of ratings.  Neutering Top Gear will just leave it as a shadow of its former self and not entertaining (see American Top Gear).
 
2014-05-03 05:05:40 PM  
The world needs more cranky old guys saying what they honestly believe, not less.

Him, Don Cherry ... I am so sick of the Barney Groupthink.
 
2014-05-03 05:06:16 PM  
A. He could have said anything under that mumbling.
B. Nope, considering Top Gear UK has a big audience, him getting axed would spell doom.
C. He punched Piers Morgan and fark no if Morgan has his way.
D. TG has pissed off countries and only got off with a warning.
 
2014-05-03 05:07:04 PM  
He also said the BBC had told him "very firmly" to apologise but added: "Apologising for using the n-word would be the same as apologising for starting the war in Syria. It's something I hadn't done."

A man this eloquent should not be fired.
 
2014-05-03 05:12:38 PM  

Ambivalence: Isn't he the guy who punched Peirs Morgan in the face?  As far as I'm concerned he can say whatever the fark he wants.


I'm torn.  On the one hand, Clarkson is a toolbag.  On the other hand, maybe he's the toolbag that the world needs.

/...in the world
 
2014-05-03 05:13:32 PM  

postnobills: Doesn't he own a large percentage of the rights to Top Gear now? That would mean presumably they would have to drop the show entirely to get rid of him, unless he left voluntarily.

Which may be for the best - the show's been going downhill the last few seasons anyway.


I think they are as good as they've ever been. Their specials are great and they interact with each other better than anyone else. The episode where they converted a van into a hovercraft had both me and the wife in tears from laughing so hard.
 
2014-05-03 05:13:39 PM  
Don't be offensive. How hard can it be?
 
2014-05-03 05:15:41 PM  
Might as well as cancel Top Gear without Jeremy no matter high well its ratings.
 
2014-05-03 05:15:50 PM  

gridlocksammy: postnobills: Doesn't he own a large percentage of the rights to Top Gear now? That would mean presumably they would have to drop the show entirely to get rid of him, unless he left voluntarily.

Which may be for the best - the show's been going downhill the last few seasons anyway.

I think they are as good as they've ever been. Their specials are great and they interact with each other better than anyone else. The episode where they converted a van into a hovercraft had both me and the wife in tears from laughing so hard.


I just started watching the show recently and I'm hooked. Honestly I don't think the new shows are any worse than the repeats from 2003 that I've been binging one.
 
2014-05-03 05:19:00 PM  

hasty ambush: He also said the BBC had told him "very firmly" to apologise but added: "Apologising for using the n-word would be the same as apologising for starting the war in Syria. It's something I hadn't done."

A man this eloquent should not be fired.


"The Suzuki Wagon R should be avoided like unprotected sex with an Ethiopian transvestite"

" America: 250 million w****rs living in a country with no word for w****r"

"I'm sorry, but having a DB9 on the drive and not driving it is a bit like having Keira Knightley in your bed and sleeping on the couch. If you've got even half a scrotum it's not going to happen."


'The air conditioning in Lambos used to be an asthmatic sitting in the dashboard blowing at you through a straw'


"I don't understand bus lanes. Why do poor people have to get to places quicker than I do?"

Clarksons highway code on cyclists: 'trespassers in the motorcars domain, they do not pay road tax and therefore have no right to be on the road, some of them even believe they are going fast enough to not be an obstruction. Run them down to prove them wrong'
 " Britain's nuclear submarines have been deemed unsafe... probably because they don't have wheel-chair access"


"If we are being honest HIV is a pathetic virus, it can only live in the air for 6 seconds and it does what ebola does to you in 10 days in 10 years"
 "Now as you can see I lost the battle to have two engines on the back because of three very important reasons. One: weight. This is 600 Lbs and that's the same as having a whole American sitting on the tailgate..."


"I'm going to say something else brave now, you ready? Thats not very good looking! and you know something else, there hasn't been a good looking ferrari since the 355. We all think there good looking coz there good cars but there not good looking enough... I tell you what its like, who's that girl out of sex in the city? Sarah Jessica Parker, she's another one.. well she must be pretty.. yer know, she looks like a boiled horse!!"
 
2014-05-03 05:24:15 PM  

fusillade762: Don't be offensive. How hard can it be?


I read that in Clarkson's voice.

My whole issue with this is that it's a damn outtake. This was them trying to be as assholish as possible, realizing that they'd crossed the line even with precautions, and dropping the issue.
 
2014-05-03 05:32:05 PM  

postnobills: Doesn't he own a large percentage of the rights to Top Gear now? That would mean presumably they would have to drop the show entirely to get rid of him, unless he left voluntarily.

Which may be for the best - the show's been going downhill the last few seasons anyway.


AFAIK the BBC own all the rights to the show and always have but Clarkson owned a share of the merchandising and the live shows, but even those the BBC bought off him and Andy Willman a couple of years ago.

I think his story of "i'm going to be fired" is hyperbole.
 
2014-05-03 05:33:18 PM  

Clutch2013: fusillade762: Don't be offensive. How hard can it be?

I read that in Clarkson's voice.

My whole issue with this is that it's a damn outtake. This was them trying to be as assholish as possible, realizing that they'd crossed the line even with precautions, and dropping the issue.


Exactly. An outtake where he clearly deliberately mumbled the word.
 
2014-05-03 05:54:31 PM  

TheHopeDiamond: The world needs more cranky old guys saying what they honestly believe, not less.

Him, Don Cherry ... I am so sick of the Barney Groupthink.


Bundy, Sterling...

/low hanging fruit
 
2014-05-03 05:57:06 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: His whole stchick is being an offensive asshole.  Thats why its funny.


He's not even very offensive. He makes fun of himself as much as anyone else. Best to just take him in stride.
 
2014-05-03 05:57:42 PM  
Some say he can even be offensive in his sleep...
 
2014-05-03 05:58:27 PM  

Tellingthem: Oh i'm sure they will figure out a way to incorporate it into the show. Probably have May or Hammond say something instead...or use flash cards or something.


Already been done

37.media.tumblr.com

i.imgur.com
i.dailymail.co.uk
img.thesun.co.uk
 
2014-05-03 06:04:08 PM  
Wow... The Wiki answers me yet again...

"It was also used by Rudyard Kipling in his "A Counting-Out Song", from Land and Sea Tales for Scouts and Guides, published in 1935.[11] This may have helped popularise this version in the United Kingdom where it seems to have replaced all earlier versions until the late twentieth century.[2] "

Link to why attractive and successful urban gentlemen shows up in Jeremy Clarkson's version.
 
2014-05-03 06:04:49 PM  

fusillade762: Don't be offensive. How hard can it be?


considering offense is frequently taken when not freely given?  it's much easier to not be offended.  there really is no valid reason to give power over yourself to a single word.  keep picking that scab and it will never heal.
 
2014-05-03 06:09:48 PM  

dustman81: Tellingthem: Oh i'm sure they will figure out a way to incorporate it into the show. Probably have May or Hammond say something instead...or use flash cards or something.

Already been done

[37.media.tumblr.com image 500x313]

[i.imgur.com image 850x952]
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x393]
[img.thesun.co.uk image 682x347]


Kinda like how pictures bypass the Fark filter.
 
2014-05-03 06:11:28 PM  

Flint Ironstag: AFAIK the BBC own all the rights to the show and always have but Clarkson owned a share of the merchandising and the live shows, but even those the BBC bought off him and Andy Willman a couple of years ago.


That's a really monumentally stupid thing to do. If Clarkson and Millman own the merchandising, they have an interest in keeping the Top Gear name good, and to stick with it and not go elsewhere. Once they don't own those rights, they are free to go elsewhere, adopt a new name and create a new series.

There's no real value in the name - it's all about what Clarkson and Milman do, with May and Hammond as a good part of the presenting mix. If those two went to Sky because they were offered millions, Top Gear as a name would be worthless within days.

(apparantly, the waiting list to be in the audience is the longest in British TV - it's the equivalent of 19 years).
 
2014-05-03 06:13:37 PM  

stonelotus: fusillade762: Don't be offensive. How hard can it be?

considering offense is frequently taken when not freely given?  it's much easier to not be offended.  there really is no valid reason to give power over yourself to a single word.  keep picking that scab and it will never heal.


To be clear I'm not offended and I think the people who are are being overly sensitive. I only used that phrase in service of a joke.
 
2014-05-03 06:13:42 PM  

violentsalvation: The BBC won't fire Clarkson, he's the central host on one of the best rated and most watched shows in the world.


Fire Clarkson, and the show goes under.

The show would have also been cancelled if Hammond died in his accident, and should if May left.

The Stig is the only replaceable member.
 
2014-05-03 06:16:34 PM  

Ambivalence: Isn't he the guy who punched Peirs Morgan in the face?  As far as I'm concerned he can say whatever the fark he wants.


www.topgearbox.com
 
2014-05-03 06:20:40 PM  
A mumbled version of an old nursery rhyme that had to be uncovered by forensics experts (with 75% accuracy, apparently) isn't exactly worthy of Donald Sterling level of offense.
 
2014-05-03 06:25:56 PM  
Yeah, you know what?
Clarkson is awesome.

Last one to the pub is a vegetarian.
 
2014-05-03 06:37:29 PM  

eddievercetti: He punched Piers Morgan and fark no if Morgan has his way.


In case anyone in the USA doesn't know the history of Piers Morgan, he was editor of the Daily Mirror when it printed photographs alleged to be soldiers of the Queen's Lancashire Regiment torturing Iraqis. Great scoop except that a few people looked at them and realised they were a hoax. The former commander of the QLR described it as a recruitment poster for Al-Qaeda.

Apparantly, the Daily Mirror board went to Piers Morgan and told him to print a full apology for what had happened, and Morgan refused. So, they fired him and then issued a full and frank apology.

So, when you hear people using words like "traitor" and "Piers Morgan" together, you now know why.
 
2014-05-03 06:37:37 PM  

fusillade762: stonelotus: fusillade762: Don't be offensive. How hard can it be?

considering offense is frequently taken when not freely given?  it's much easier to not be offended.  there really is no valid reason to give power over yourself to a single word.  keep picking that scab and it will never heal.

To be clear I'm not offended and I think the people who are are being overly sensitive. I only used that phrase in service of a joke.


no worries.  I was speaking generally.
 
2014-05-03 06:56:28 PM  
Clarkson is an abrasive prick, but he's not a racist
 
2014-05-03 06:59:55 PM  
We all know Clarkson is a jerk. That's his shtick. I probably wouldn't last 5 minutes in a room with him, but his caustic take of over-the-hill conservativism is hilarious. He's the Alf Garnett/Archie Bunker of our times.
 
2014-05-03 07:13:29 PM  

farkeruk: eddievercetti: He punched Piers Morgan and fark no if Morgan has his way.

In case anyone in the USA doesn't know the history of Piers Morgan, he was editor of the Daily Mirror when it printed photographs alleged to be soldiers of the Queen's Lancashire Regiment torturing Iraqis. Great scoop except that a few people looked at them and realised they were a hoax. The former commander of the QLR described it as a recruitment poster for Al-Qaeda.

Apparantly, the Daily Mirror board went to Piers Morgan and told him to print a full apology for what had happened, and Morgan refused. So, they fired him and then issued a full and frank apology.


I'm thinking that Moron must still have a few friends at The Mirror.

On an n-word related tangent, in the cut of Shaun of the Dead that was released in the UK, when Nick Frost's character pulls up in the Jag to pick up Shaun, Barbara and Bill Nighy's character, he says "whassup n-words".

Did this make the US cut? I was pretty surprised to hear it, but then again, I've been dicking around on the internet for ages, and perhaps more sensitive to the n-word than most Brits. In context, it's an innocent line that perhaps says more about Nick Frost's character in the film than anything else. But still.

Also, some Piers Moron-related schadenfreude:
Hislop on Moron in Room 101.
The HIGNFY episode where Moron comes across as a complete dickwad.
 
2014-05-03 07:26:08 PM  
Some of the better quotes here: Link

Clarksonisms.com
 
2014-05-03 07:31:02 PM  
img.fark.net
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-03 07:39:48 PM  

whither_apophis: TheHopeDiamond: The world needs more cranky old guys saying what they honestly believe, not less.

Him, Don Cherry ... I am so sick of the Barney Groupthink.

Bundy, Sterling...

/low hanging fruit


When we start telling people what they must THINK, there's a problem. Everyone has the right to be an asshole if they want.
 
2014-05-03 07:40:09 PM  
That's going to be the shortest episode ever.
 
2014-05-03 07:47:36 PM  

TheHopeDiamond: When we start telling people what they must THINK, there's a problem. Everyone has the right to be an asshole if they want.


And everyone has a right to tell them they are an asshole for doing so, and sack them if they don't want that sort of thing associated with their business. Or do you think free speech only applies to bigots and everyone else has to shut up and let them be bigoted without comment or reaction?
 
2014-05-03 07:53:30 PM  

xria: TheHopeDiamond: When we start telling people what they must THINK, there's a problem. Everyone has the right to be an asshole if they want.

And everyone has a right to tell them they are an asshole for doing so, and sack them if they don't want that sort of thing associated with their business. Or do you think free speech only applies to bigots and everyone else has to shut up and let them be bigoted without comment or reaction?


This.  Freedom is not a one way street.

OTOH, isn't the concept of freedom of speech a little different there?  I'm fuzzy on the details but there are things, man.  Things.

/something about ASBOs or whatever
 
2014-05-03 08:00:58 PM  

exvaxman: Some of the better quotes here: Link

Clarksonisms.com


Thanks for the link. I'm laughing my ass off here.

"This is the new Maserati 4x4. It's called the Kubang, which being a Maserati, probably also the sound it'll make when the warranty expires."

He really does have a thing for Kiera Knightly, doesn't he?
 
2014-05-03 08:01:00 PM  

fusillade762: gridlocksammy: postnobills: Doesn't he own a large percentage of the rights to Top Gear now? That would mean presumably they would have to drop the show entirely to get rid of him, unless he left voluntarily.

Which may be for the best - the show's been going downhill the last few seasons anyway.

I think they are as good as they've ever been. Their specials are great and they interact with each other better than anyone else. The episode where they converted a van into a hovercraft had both me and the wife in tears from laughing so hard.

I just started watching the show recently and I'm hooked. Honestly I don't think the new shows are any worse than the repeats from 2003 that I've been binging one.


i've been watching since 2003 when i was obsessed with sports cars and imo it's as entertaining as its ever been, they couldn't keep doing the same thing over and over again and shouldn't

that said i also find fifth gear entertaining when i do want that sports car itch fulfilled, but then nobody watches fifth gear as much as top gear and it'd be dumb to expect that anyways
 
2014-05-03 08:08:01 PM  

Ambivalence: Isn't he the guy who punched Peirs Morgan in the face?  As far as I'm concerned he can say whatever the fark he wants.


Yes. Yes he is.
 
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