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(xoJane)   Some hipsters dumpster-dive for fun. Other hipsters live in dumpsters for fun. Meet Professor Dumpster, who fully committed to 24/7 dumpster living after nasty divorce: "I wanted to challenge the limits of my life in a big way"   (xojane.com) divider line 104
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m00
2014-05-03 04:59:16 PM  

sendtodave: m00: sendtodave: m00: El Supe: No wonder he got divorced.  BTW, where does Dumpster boy take a dump?

Universities have 24 hour open buildings (libraries, gyms, computer labs, commuter lounges) and you can find toilets, water fountains, showers etc. I'm sure there is even a 24 hour starbucks within walking distance. Also, there are dining halls for prepared food which are in theory discounted for students and faculty.

That's the problem with his experiment. It's only comfortable because the university provides all the facilities he's using. The dumpster is actually irrelevant in the equation. Basically the "experiment" is does a University provide all necessary facilities as "public" (aka, if you're a student or faculty) to live. Well, of course.

Socialisms.  Socialisms everywhere.

Nothing wrong with socialism. It's fine for some things, other things not so much. But what I do have a problem with is when people rely on socialism and somehow claim rugged individualism. The only spectacular thing this guy is doing is pretending like he's somehow eco-friendly and living off 1% the energy, water, etc. Because he's using all the university facilities. It's asinine. He's "fully committed" to using more than his fair share. Only difference is the university funds are paying for his electric, water, heating, etc.

Hm.

So, it's bad to claim to be individualistic when you are the beneficiary of collectivism?  You also have to acknowledge that others are supporting you?

Wow, you must really not want American to ever be socialist.  We're all rugged individuals, even when we aren't.  That's kinda our thing.


I think this myth that all these self starters -- like Bill Gates -- did it on their own is an extremely dangerous lie. We have this idea that the start-up entrepreneur or genius inventor is some guy working in his basement until eureka, he becomes a billionaire through sacrifice, hard work, and intelligence. It's true these things are usually necessary components, but they're not the most important component.

If we really want to improve our economy and advance the private sector we have to recognize that the Bill Gates of the world, while smart and hard-working, had very large economic advantages that were instrumental to their success. Only later was history rewritten to create this myth of "I did it against all odds," because we love an underdog story. And it's dangerous to give people who are trying to raise their economic situation that this is what's actually happening.
 
2014-05-03 04:59:18 PM  

kroonermanblack: Er, there's a reason people didn't historically build fortresses on bridges. Might want to investigate that.


err, I don't think displaced denizens of the forthcoming revolution are going to be building fortresses of any type.


err, Rather, they will be seeking shelter with existing structures, and the more savvy will be choosing sites that allow for a clear view of the perimeter, with possible escape routes in any direction if the need to flee arises.


err err err
 
2014-05-03 05:04:43 PM  

m00: Only later was history rewritten to create this myth of "I did it against all odds," because we love an underdog story. And it's dangerous to give people who are trying to raise their economic situation that this is what's actually happening.


Do you think those people would prefer an underdog story, where someone JUST THE THEM! succeeded?   Or do you think they'd prefer stories where the guys who already are ahead get more ahead?

At least underdog stories give these poor farkers who will go nowhere in life where some hope.  Like lottery ticket.

You'd take away their dreams?  Bastard.
 
2014-05-03 05:05:09 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: spawn73: If its not used as a dumpster, you're just dumb.

This: it's just a tiny metal room.


Without windows and insulation against either heat or cold.

I guess he goes to campus when he need plumbing.
 
2014-05-03 05:06:52 PM  

m00: The only spectacular thing this guy is doing is pretending like he's somehow eco-friendly and living off 1% the energy, water, etc. Because he's using all the university facilities. It's asinine. He's "fully committed" to using more than his fair share. Only difference is the university funds are paying for his electric, water, heating, etc.


On the surface, yes.  I wonder how many of those resources were going to be spent anyway whether he took advantage of them or not.  In that respect, he's minimizing waste, or making use of otherwise wasted resources, depending on your outlook.

But yes, this is not "rugged individualism" as much as it is realizing that there are fringe benefits that he wasn't fully utilizing before.
 
2014-05-03 05:07:53 PM  
Is it worrying that Portlandia skits are coming to life? Is that something we should be concerned about?
 
m00
2014-05-03 05:19:32 PM  

sendtodave: m00: Only later was history rewritten to create this myth of "I did it against all odds," because we love an underdog story. And it's dangerous to give people who are trying to raise their economic situation that this is what's actually happening.

Do you think those people would prefer an underdog story, where someone JUST THE THEM! succeeded?   Or do you think they'd prefer stories where the guys who already are ahead get more ahead?

At least underdog stories give these poor farkers who will go nowhere in life where some hope.  Like lottery ticket.

You'd take away their dreams?  Bastard.


I think if we want to maximize the potential of our economy, we need to make sure every child has the economic opportunities that the founders of Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc all had. Even Henry Ford had a wealthy benefactor who let him fail (Ford's first car company was a failure). This is a combination of really top-notch education and giving children access to the latest technology, and giving young entrepreneurs cash investment for startups -- at the very least, paying recently graduated students in technical fields minimum wage just so they can live while they try and start a business. And then a safety-net if they fail. But this is socialism, obviously.

The question is do we prefer to maximize the potential of our economy, or not be socialist.
 
2014-05-03 05:22:52 PM  
FTFA: "For my ex-wife and me, it started how it often starts -- seven years into our marriage, my wife browsed through my text messages and found a few things she wasn't all that thrilled about. (I still maintain my innocence.)"

global3.memecdn.com
 
2014-05-03 05:29:23 PM  
Where's the pic of that "Two Broke Girls" guy?
 
2014-05-03 05:44:33 PM  

m00: I think if we want to maximize the potential of our economy, we need to make sure every child has the economic opportunities that the founders of Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc all had.


Pull the other one.
 
2014-05-03 05:48:59 PM  

m00: El Supe: No wonder he got divorced.  BTW, where does Dumpster boy take a dump?

Universities have 24 hour open buildings (libraries, gyms, computer labs, commuter lounges) and you can find toilets, water fountains, showers etc. I'm sure there is even a 24 hour starbucks within walking distance. Also, there are dining halls for prepared food which are in theory discounted for students and faculty.

That's the problem with his experiment. It's only comfortable because the university provides all the facilities he's using. The dumpster is actually irrelevant in the equation. Basically the "experiment" is does a University provide all necessary facilities as "public" (aka, if you're a student or faculty) to live. Well, of course.


That's what I was thinking as well.  He claims to be testing whether you can live on 1% of the waste, water, and energy of the average household but if he's still taking showers, washing his clothes, using the toilet, using the campus WiFi, working in an office, etc., he's not really doing that, he's just changing who pays for the waste, water, and energy he's still using.

I also think it's pretty obvious he hasn't yet tried his experiment in an Austin summer.  Good luck getting to sleep at 11:30 at night in August when it's 90 degrees outside and 130 degrees inside your little metal box.
 
m00
2014-05-03 06:05:13 PM  

sendtodave: m00: I think if we want to maximize the potential of our economy, we need to make sure every child has the economic opportunities that the founders of Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc all had.

Pull the other one.


?
 
2014-05-03 06:05:53 PM  

letrole: When I travel around the county, I sometimes keep myself occupied by looking out the window and sizing up various unintended shelters. Of course you want protection from the elements, but you also need a clear view of the perimeter so you'll be better able to defend your position. Bridges often satisfy these requirements.


This sort of trivia will be handy when revolution comes. Not only will I know where to seek cover, I'll also know likely places that I can find other denizens who are well provisioned and dry, but not as concerned with site security.


You. I like you...
 
2014-05-03 06:13:55 PM  

m00: giving young entrepreneurs cash investment for startups -- at the very least, paying recently graduated students in technical fields minimum wage just so they can live while they try and start a business. And then a safety-net if they fail. But this is socialism, obviously.

The question is do we prefer to maximize the potential of our economy, or not be socialist.


Wait, can't you just borrow $5000 from your parents like everybody else?

/kidding
//THIS THIS THIS
///I have friend who started businesses because they had the safety net of health insurance they didn't before.  I had to stay in jobs I hated longer than I wanted because I couldn't lose mine.  Slow progress.
 
2014-05-03 06:14:53 PM  
I don't see any evidence of any guy living in a dumpster.

All I see is a clown standing around in or near an empty dumpster, and jabbering endlessly about his daughter.

WTF is really going on here, I'd like to know?
 
2014-05-03 06:24:05 PM  

sendtodave: m00: I think if we want to maximize the potential of our economy, we need to make sure every child has the economic opportunities that the founders of Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc all had.

Pull the other one.



You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think.

Children of all ages and income levels and other countries of origin and more, have more access to education and health care and food and shelter than ever before, any where in the world, in history, in America. Apparently is still is not enough.

You have to want to make something of your self, and you have to work at it, and have support from your family, too.
 
2014-05-03 06:25:09 PM  

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That boy covered every hipster cliche.
 
2014-05-03 06:30:26 PM  

spawn73: ArcadianRefugee: spawn73: If its not used as a dumpster, you're just dumb.

This: it's just a tiny metal room.

Without windows and insulation against either heat or cold.

I guess he goes to campus when he need plumbing.


OK, so it's a sucky room, but it's still just a room.
 
2014-05-03 06:33:46 PM  

m00: sendtodave: m00: I think if we want to maximize the potential of our economy, we need to make sure every child has the economic opportunities that the founders of Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc all had.

Pull the other one.

?


Of course we don't want that.

Poor people exist for a reason, you know.
 
m00
2014-05-03 06:43:26 PM  

WeenerGord: You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think.

Children of all ages and income levels and other countries of origin and more, have more access to education and health care and food and shelter than ever before, any where in the world, in history, in America. Apparently is still is not enough.

You have to want to make something of your self, and you have to work at it, and have support from your family, too.


To use Bill Gates as an example, he went to an exclusive (read: expensive) preparatory school that was one of only three high schools in the entire US that had access to a computer. It was also through that school he met many future important contacts. He went to Harvard, and met more future important contacts. Harvard is not free. When he dropped out of Harvard to start Microsoft, his family gave him money.

This is the common trajectory of people who "made something of themselves."

All I'm saying, is if we want more people who "make something of themselves" we need to maximize the amount of children that have this sort of advantage. Because you can't pretend Microsoft would exist if all those advantages didn't exist for Bill.
 
2014-05-03 06:50:32 PM  

m00: WeenerGord: You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think.

Children of all ages and income levels and other countries of origin and more, have more access to education and health care and food and shelter than ever before, any where in the world, in history, in America. Apparently is still is not enough.

You have to want to make something of your self, and you have to work at it, and have support from your family, too.

To use Bill Gates as an example, he went to an exclusive (read: expensive) preparatory school that was one of only three high schools in the entire US that had access to a computer. It was also through that school he met many future important contacts. He went to Harvard, and met more future important contacts. Harvard is not free. When he dropped out of Harvard to start Microsoft, his family gave him money.

This is the common trajectory of people who "made something of themselves."

All I'm saying, is if we want more people who "make something of themselves" we need to maximize the amount of children that have this sort of advantage. Because you can't pretend Microsoft would exist if all those advantages didn't exist for Bill.



Abraham Lincoln was raised poor, in a log cabin, but he read books by candle light. He made something of himself because he wanted to.

And if Bill Gates was given opportunities, they were given by his parents, who must have worked hard at some point to have those things to give to their children. And now Bill Gates is giving a lot back through his foundation work.

There was never a time or place in the world were there was so much opportunity for ANYONE to make something of themselves, if they could just be arsed to do something, anything. But some people will always whine that they can't do anything unless it is all given to them.
 
2014-05-03 07:01:06 PM  

WeenerGord: m00: WeenerGord: You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think.

Children of all ages and income levels and other countries of origin and more, have more access to education and health care and food and shelter than ever before, any where in the world, in history, in America. Apparently is still is not enough.

You have to want to make something of your self, and you have to work at it, and have support from your family, too.

To use Bill Gates as an example, he went to an exclusive (read: expensive) preparatory school that was one of only three high schools in the entire US that had access to a computer. It was also through that school he met many future important contacts. He went to Harvard, and met more future important contacts. Harvard is not free. When he dropped out of Harvard to start Microsoft, his family gave him money.

This is the common trajectory of people who "made something of themselves."

All I'm saying, is if we want more people who "make something of themselves" we need to maximize the amount of children that have this sort of advantage. Because you can't pretend Microsoft would exist if all those advantages didn't exist for Bill.


Abraham Lincoln was raised poor, in a log cabin, but he read books by candle light. He made something of himself because he wanted to.

And if Bill Gates was given opportunities, they were given by his parents, who must have worked hard at some point to have those things to give to their children. And now Bill Gates is giving a lot back through his foundation work.

There was never a time or place in the world were there was so much opportunity for ANYONE to make something of themselves, if they could just be arsed to do something, anything. But some people will always whine that they can't do anything unless it is all given to them.


I digs what you be sayin'
 
2014-05-03 07:42:50 PM  
I lived in a 23--foot travel trailer for 3 and 1/2 years when I was working in an oil field boom town.

Bought it for $2600, sold it for $2300.  Works out to about 23 cents a day.

Alternative living makes sense, even with the environmental bullshirt thrown out.
 
2014-05-03 07:43:45 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: spawn73: ArcadianRefugee: spawn73: If its not used as a dumpster, you're just dumb.

This: it's just a tiny metal room.

Without windows and insulation against either heat or cold.

I guess he goes to campus when he need plumbing.

OK, so it's a sucky room, but it's still just a room.


With the blessing of the college.
 
m00
2014-05-03 09:20:43 PM  

WeenerGord: Abraham Lincoln was raised poor, in a log cabin, but he read books by candle light. He made something of himself because he wanted to.


wrong.

Again, this is another myth of the self starter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln#Early_life

Thomas enjoyed considerable status in Kentucky-where he sat on juries, appraised estates, served on country slave patrols, and guarded prisoners. By the time his son Abraham was born, Thomas owned two 600-acre (240 ha) farms, several town lots, livestock, and horses. He was among the richest men in the county. However, in 1816, Thomas lost all of his land in court cases because of faulty property titles.
...
In 1840, Lincoln became engaged to Mary Todd, who was from a wealthy slave-holding family in Lexington, Kentucky.
...
Lincoln's father-in-law was based in Lexington, Kentucky; he and others of the Todd family were either slave owners or slave traders. Lincoln was close to the Todds, and he and his family occasionally visited the Todd estate in Lexington.



So his Lincoln's father was the richest man in the county, lost all his money... then Lincoln married rich. He opened a business, which failed. He ran for a bunch of local offices and lost. He joined the militia as a Captain, which you don't do unless you're already connected. He then became a government Post Master and Surveyor, appointed by Andrew Jackson. He passed the bar and became a lawyer, and got back into politics.

He's like the George Bush of the 19th century.

But by all means, tell me he didn't have any advantages in life.
 
2014-05-03 09:58:51 PM  

WeenerGord: m00: WeenerGord: You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think.

Children of all ages and income levels and other countries of origin and more, have more access to education and health care and food and shelter than ever before, any where in the world, in history, in America. Apparently is still is not enough.

You have to want to make something of your self, and you have to work at it, and have support from your family, too.

To use Bill Gates as an example, he went to an exclusive (read: expensive) preparatory school that was one of only three high schools in the entire US that had access to a computer. It was also through that school he met many future important contacts. He went to Harvard, and met more future important contacts. Harvard is not free. When he dropped out of Harvard to start Microsoft, his family gave him money.

This is the common trajectory of people who "made something of themselves."

All I'm saying, is if we want more people who "make something of themselves" we need to maximize the amount of children that have this sort of advantage. Because you can't pretend Microsoft would exist if all those advantages didn't exist for Bill.


Abraham Lincoln was raised poor, in a log cabin, but he read books by candle light. He made something of himself because he wanted to.



And let's compare and contrast the two time periods shall we?
 
2014-05-03 10:09:34 PM  

Matthew Keene: I hear he has room mates

[www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk image 458x305]


Where'd you get that picture of my garbage can? I came home from vacation last summer and about leapt out of my skin.

(No, that's not really my garbage can - I can tell because that's not my bike.)

Fortunately, Raid comes in big cans.
 
2014-05-03 10:12:39 PM  
WeenerGord:
Abraham Lincoln was raised poor, in a log cabin, but he read books by candle light.

Yes, that's how the wealthy read books.  The poor would just go to bed at sundown, couldn't afford books, and quite possibly were illiterate anyway.
 
2014-05-03 10:51:03 PM  

Mister Peejay: WeenerGord:
Abraham Lincoln was raised poor, in a log cabin, but he read books by candle light.

Yes, that's how the wealthy read books.  The poor would just go to bed at sundown, couldn't afford books, and quite possibly were illiterate anyway.



And today, every child, no matter how poor, is practically forced to go to school, and learn to read, even if they are severely handicapped... and yet still there are some lazy persons who will biatch about anyone having more than them. Farking get up off your ass and achieve something for yourself.
 
2014-05-03 11:13:17 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Wasn't this an episode of Two Broke Girls?


A couple episodes till they bored of it.  Now we'll see what comedian they want to showcase next, oh I mean date Max.
 
2014-05-03 11:46:40 PM  

kroonermanblack: letrole: When I travel around the county, I sometimes keep myself occupied by looking out the window and sizing up various unintended shelters. Of course you want protection from the elements, but you also need a clear view of the perimeter so you'll be better able to defend your position. Bridges often satisfy these requirements.


This sort of trivia will be handy when revolution comes. Not only will I know where to seek cover, I'll also know likely places that I can find other denizens who are well provisioned and dry, but not as concerned with site security.

Er, there's a reason people didn't historically build fortresses on bridges. Might want to investigate that.


Really?

upload.wikimedia.org
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-05-04 12:09:35 AM  

WeenerGord: Mister Peejay: WeenerGord:
Abraham Lincoln was raised poor, in a log cabin, but he read books by candle light.

Yes, that's how the wealthy read books.  The poor would just go to bed at sundown, couldn't afford books, and quite possibly were illiterate anyway.


And today, every child, no matter how poor, is practically forced to go to school, and learn to read, even if they are severely handicapped... and yet still there are some lazy persons who will biatch about anyone having more than them. Farking get up off your ass and achieve something for yourself.


My Dad grew up poor in Detroit. Worked his ass off, got a full ride to college, still worked his ass off to feed himself, and moved up to middle class.

His best friend moved a mile away,a few blocks over the Detroit border. I met his future son in law who was a brilliant kid. In shiatty public ed schools. I went to a mediocre high school and a decent magnet school. Even the mediocre high school had computer labs and classes. He entirely self taught himself and worked to buy his own equipment.

He worked for a local business straight out of HS because he needed to eat. That business at least realized his potential and was bankrolling him to go to school. I was at the top public university in my state at the time and he blew me away. But he had to support his siblings so even if he got the scholarship my Dad did 30 years earlier (nearly unheard of while I was there) he would have to balance a full time job on top of it.

For all that effort on top of inherited intelligence, he is far less likely to make the class jump my Dad did. And ONE bad accident or illness and that small chance would disappear entirely.

But yeah, it's alllllllll about "getting off your ass". class mobility being at a pathetic low just means Americans are lazy.
 
2014-05-04 12:11:20 AM  

spawn73: ArcadianRefugee: spawn73: ArcadianRefugee: spawn73: If its not used as a dumpster, you're just dumb.

This: it's just a tiny metal room.

Without windows and insulation against either heat or cold.

I guess he goes to campus when he need plumbing.

OK, so it's a sucky room, but it's still just a room.

With the blessing of the college.


If the college could, they'd give him a roommate.
 
2014-05-04 12:13:38 AM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: But yeah, it's alllllllll about "getting off your ass".



Life aint fair. Since YOU claim to have done better, and he's practically family, why don't YOU help him?
 
2014-05-04 01:12:36 AM  

phenn: LeroyBourne: [9wows.com image 634x423]
I recall a similar story hitting Fark about a guy building these. It looks much nicer than a dumpster.

My husband is addicted to blogs/sites that feature container homes and other types of repurposing for living. It's a bit of a bucket list item for him to design something we could actually build and make a proper home out of. I have tons of respect for people who figure these things out for themselves. Truly, a talent.

Living in a dumpster just because? Not so sure I can wrap my arms around that one.  ;-)


He must love you more than words because that's some serious commitment to closeness right there.
 
m00
2014-05-04 01:14:17 AM  

WeenerGord: Life aint fair.


If that were an argument-ender, we would still have slavery and a lot of other things we did away with as a society to make life more fair.
 
2014-05-04 01:44:47 AM  
These humpsters are real dipsters, aren't they?
 
2014-05-04 02:56:11 AM  
I can't imagine why his ex doesn't want their little girl to be seen at a dumpster in the company of a skeevy clown.
 
2014-05-04 07:07:31 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-04 07:22:18 AM  
letrole: Of course you want protection from the elements, but you also need a clear view of the perimeter so you'll be better able to defend your position. Bridges often satisfy these requirements.


kroonermanblack: Er, there's a reason people didn't historically build fortresses on bridges. Might want to investigate that.


DarkVader:  [picture 1 of bridge fortress]  [picture 2 of bridge fortress]   Really?


A fortress is not a battleship. You don't build a fortress to mount an offensive. A fortress is defensive -- you build it to defend something. But, you don't care about defending the bridge.


When the revolution comes, what you want is a dry place with a clear view of approaches. The only thing you will be defending is yourself. Actually, you'll abandon your place and move on as soon as it's apparent you've been discovered, even if the discoverers are beaten back and leave the area completely.

You camp near roads, but don't use roads for travel yourself. The advantage goes to the fellow who can watch for others who are going about in predictable paths, while not being readily trackable himself.
 
2014-05-04 08:23:51 AM  
StreetlightInTheGhetto:

He worked for a local business straight out of HS because he needed to eat. That business at least realized his potential and was bankrolling him to go to school. I was at the top public university in my state at the time and he blew me away. But he had to support his siblings so even if he got the scholarship my Dad did 30 years earlier (nearly unheard of while I was there) he would have to balance a full time job on top of it.

For all that effort on top of inherited intelligence, he is far less likely to make the class jump my Dad did. And ONE bad accident or illness and that small chance would disappear entirely.

But yeah, it's alllllllll about "getting off your ass". class mobility being at a pathetic low just means Americans are lazy.


Now, see, if only he'd just told his family "fark you, I'm getting mine" then he might have been able to do better for himself.  Well, between that and getting a boost from benefactors, anyway.
 
2014-05-04 09:28:04 AM  
A hipster in a dumpster you say?  Well, one is a good start.
 
2014-05-04 12:42:53 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: My Dad grew up poor in Detroit. Worked his ass off, got a full ride to college, still worked his ass off to feed himself, and moved up to middle class.


So, hard work DOES pay off, you should be the first one to admit it! Or are you now like every other brat of rich parents who thinks they don't have to do shiat and have it all given to them, because daddy pays for every thing they ever had?

StreetlightInTheGhetto: His best friend moved a mile away,a few blocks over the Detroit border. I met his future son in law He entirely self taught himself and worked to buy his own equipment.

He worked for a local business straight out of HS because he needed to eat. That business at least realized his potential and was bankrolling him to go to school. I was at the top public university in my state at the time and he blew me away. But he had to support his siblings so even if he got the scholarship my Dad did 30 years earlier (nearly unheard of while I was there) he would have to balance a full time job on top of it.


Why does he have to support his siblings? Why can't they work? Where are the parents? Why can't the rest of the family work hard and do without so that this one person could get a scholarship and better them all? Why don't you google "Crab in a Bucket Syndrome"

StreetlightInTheGhetto: he is far less likely to make the class jump my Dad did


There is more to class than money.
 
2014-05-04 03:46:36 PM  

WeenerGord: You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think.
Children of all ages and income levels and other countries of origin and more, have more access to education and health care and food and shelter than ever before, any where in the world, in history, in America. Apparently is still is not enough.
You have to want to make something of your self, and you have to work at it, and have support from your family, too.


That's all you needed to say. It's nice that you came from a supportive, "normal", family. Do you have any idea how many kids don't come from "supportive" families, kids who are farked up almost before they come out of the womb, and then grow up in an environment where they never even learn how to achieve things, stand on their own two feet, or pretty much even how to interact well with other human beings? And they all look normal as fark, just like guys who hold women prisoner in their basements or frat boys.. It takes a lifetime to overcome something like that, and that's if you're bright. If you aren't, then it's probably never going to happen.

Yeah, maybe Oprah did it, but most people don't. Now be quiet. Your trolling is not amusing me.
 
2014-05-04 05:35:20 PM  

letrole: kroonermanblack: Er, there's a reason people didn't historically build fortresses on bridges. Might want to investigate that.

err, I don't think displaced denizens of the forthcoming revolution are going to be building fortresses of any type.


err, Rather, they will be seeking shelter with existing structures, and the more savvy will be choosing sites that allow for a clear view of the perimeter, with possible escape routes in any direction if the need to flee arises.


err err err


Dude, your entire scenario supposed a post apocalyptic world. You don't 'seek shelter' on farking bridges for a reason. Your tactical judgement and assessment was shiat, for too many reasons to bother with, and I was attempting to politely point that out.
 
2014-05-04 06:25:19 PM  

kroonermanblack: Dude, your entire scenario supposed a post apocalyptic world.


No, a post revolutionary world, and depending on the extent of the revolution, perhaps only regional uprising.


I think you may be getting in a tizzy, what with flapping between Stratego and Mad Max.


When the revolution comes, you'll look back and laugh at your own naiveté.
 
2014-05-04 06:32:31 PM  

DarkVader: kroonermanblack: letrole: When I travel around the county, I sometimes keep myself occupied by looking out the window and sizing up various unintended shelters. Of course you want protection from the elements, but you also need a clear view of the perimeter so you'll be better able to defend your position. Bridges often satisfy these requirements.


This sort of trivia will be handy when revolution comes. Not only will I know where to seek cover, I'll also know likely places that I can find other denizens who are well provisioned and dry, but not as concerned with site security.

Er, there's a reason people didn't historically build fortresses on bridges. Might want to investigate that.

Really?

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Just out of general curiosity, were those fortresses to protect the crossing, protect another fortress past the crossing, or just standalone that needed to be built near a water source?
 
2014-05-04 08:27:29 PM  
This guy is an unbelievable hipster, but the experiment is legitimate and a little bit neat.  He'll be adding a toilet and shower to the project, and that's an interesting design challenge.  Some of the posters here who have said "Texas is hot!" and "but he's using the University's facilities!" as if they thought of it and he could not.  You should probably google that.  He totally did.  They'll be adding both.

Look, he may be a hipster, but he's a Harvard educated dean of a goddamn university who formerly taught at Harvard and UT, and has the highest honors that can be bestowed on a Texas professor (which, with UT being in the state, means he's no slouch).  He's got a number of sponsors.  He can afford a solar panel, so he's got very good funding.  This article is navel-gazing and his pants are dumb.  However, the experiment interesting and worth doing.  There are a lot of experimental homes that size, but relatively few with those design constraints and with someone living there the whole time.
 
2014-05-04 09:41:27 PM  

cryinoutloud: WeenerGord: You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think.
Children of all ages and income levels and other countries of origin and more, have more access to education and health care and food and shelter than ever before, any where in the world, in history, in America. Apparently is still is not enough.
You have to want to make something of your self, and you have to work at it, and have support from your family, too.

That's all you needed to say. It's nice that you came from a supportive, "normal", family. Do you have any idea how many kids don't come from "supportive" families, kids who are farked up almost before they come out of the womb, and then grow up in an environment where they never even learn how to achieve things, stand on their own two feet, or pretty much even how to interact well with other human beings? And they all look normal as fark, just like guys who hold women prisoner in their basements or frat boys.. It takes a lifetime to overcome something like that, and that's if you're bright. If you aren't, then it's probably never going to happen.

Yeah, maybe Oprah did it, but most people don't. Now be quiet. Your trolling is not amusing me.



I've got nothing against you. In fact, I pity you. Because every single post I have ever seen you make, you have been wringing your hands in self pity about how totally miserable you are.

So, really, who is trolling who?

Even for those American kids who came from abusive families, they have more of a chance in America than anywhere else in the world. Here, they have a good chance to be rescued from abuse, and always have a chance at school and decent work.

There are places in this world where girl children are selectively aborted or sold into prostitution when practically still toddlers. Places with female genital mutilation, places where girls who dare to learn to read may have acid thrown in their face. Over 200 schoolgirls were recently abducted by armed men in Nigeria, anyone have any concern about that? Or only self pity for your own hurt feelings over what ever it was that damaged you so much that it is all you ever talk about, and it colors everything you reply to. There's places where children are forced into the military, and not all are forced to carry guns. Some are forced to do other things. There are places where women are forced into prostitution and trafficked, where the pollution is so bad that birth defects are the norm, where caste systems still exist, where there is no medicine or clean drinking water, places where you might have to leave your village and walk hundreds of miles to find a doctor or any work at all, where there is no farking welfare or free schooling, places where you would have to pay high fees to get your child into school at all.

Like I said, if you think America is so bad, try life somewhere else for a while. Or you could try to appreciate what you do have.
 
2014-05-04 10:18:56 PM  
More about those abducted Nigerian girls...

Hundreds of kidnapped Nigerian school girls reportedly sold as brides to militants for $12, relatives say

This is a euphemism for saying they have been gang raped and trafficked, of course. And since this is a muslim area, these girls can never have a real marriage, as no muslim man will have them, now, and they cannot go back home, ever, or their male relatives will have to kill them to erase the shame to the family. And since African muslims practice female genital mutilation, they have been torn, physically, and this makes them more liable to AIDs and other infections. Best they can hope for is a short life of prostitution.

But by all means, go ahead and piss and moan about how hard it is to jump class in America.

/Spoiled brats
 
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