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2014-05-03 10:45:08 AM  
"Under the citizenship act, racialism is getting more severe in the U.S. The gaps between the minorities and the whites are very wide in the exercise of such rights to work and elect."

Citizenship Act?

"The U.S. true colors as a kingdom of racial discrimination was fully revealed by last year's case that the Florida Court gave a verdict of not guilty to a white policeman who shot to death an innocent black boy."

Hey! Zimmermann is a cop! I be he'll be delighted to know that!

"The U.S. also has 2.2 millions of prisoners at present, the highest number in the world. For lack of prisons on the part of the government, individuals are providing detention facilities to make money."

Sadly, that one is 100% true.
 
2014-05-03 10:58:54 AM  
"Its chief executive, Obama, indulges himself in luxury almost every day, squandering hundred millions of dollars on his foreign trip in disregard of his people's wretched life."
 3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-05-03 11:33:54 AM  
"The U.S. true colors as a kingdom of racial discrimination was fully revealed by last year's case that the Florida Court gave a verdict of not guilty to a white policeman who shot to death an innocent black boy."

DRINK!
 
2014-05-03 12:18:36 PM  

whistleridge: "Under the citizenship act, racialism is getting more severe in the U.S. The gaps between the minorities and the whites are very wide in the exercise of such rights to work and elect."

Citizenship Act?

"The U.S. true colors as a kingdom of racial discrimination was fully revealed by last year's case that the Florida Court gave a verdict of not guilty to a white policeman who shot to death an innocent black boy."

Hey! Zimmermann is a cop! I be he'll be delighted to know that!

"The U.S. also has 2.2 millions of prisoners at present, the highest number in the world. For lack of prisons on the part of the government, individuals are providing detention facilities to make money."

Sadly, that one is 100% true.


It is interesting how propaganda works.
It isnt that our unemployment is high or low, it is that we have free press that write out this and other countries can visit the US to verify this.

It isnt that we have slave labor in prisons, it is that we dont starve them to death like, NK.
 
2014-05-03 12:22:56 PM  

namatad: It is interesting how propaganda works.
It isnt that our unemployment is high or low, it is that we have free press that write out this and other countries can visit the US to verify this.

It isnt that we have slave labor in prisons, it is that we dont starve them to death like, NK.


All true.

Doesn't make that last one any less of a sad commentary on our justice system though. 

Happily, unlike NK, we have mechanisms for change, and our changes tend to be for the better.
 
2014-05-03 12:24:52 PM  
"At present, an average of 300,000 people a week are registered as unemployed, but any proper measure has not been taken."

North Korean "proper measure:"

blogs.telegraph.co.uk
 
2014-05-03 12:40:25 PM  
cdn2-b.examiner.com
 
2014-05-03 12:53:58 PM  
True or not, that last paragraph is just more propaganda.

Perhaps you can argue that the United States is a "living hell as elementary rights to existence are ruthlessly violated." But does the reality of the situation in the West really compare to stories from North Korea, where hundreds of thousands of people are thought to have died in gulags, where citizens are watched and discriminated against for their political views, and where escaping to another country is prohibited by the state?

Thanks for reminding us just how bad they've got it over there in North Korea and how much better we've got it over here in America.
 
2014-05-03 01:06:32 PM  

whistleridge: namatad: It is interesting how propaganda works.
It isnt that our unemployment is high or low, it is that we have free press that write out this and other countries can visit the US to verify this.

It isnt that we have slave labor in prisons, it is that we dont starve them to death like, NK.

All true.

Doesn't make that last one any less of a sad commentary on our justice system though. 

Happily, unlike NK, we have mechanisms for change, and our changes tend to be for the better.


truth
I look at something as simple as pot.
Reagan's war on drugs has done more to harm the US than everything else combined.
But slowly and surely, the states have individually been undoing the damage.
In NK there would just be a lot more dead people.

Brainwashing is a terrible thing.
 
2014-05-03 01:30:14 PM  
In North Korea one man gets fatter while the rest of the population starves

That should tell one anything they need to know about North Korea
 
2014-05-03 01:55:06 PM  
Yeah, we have our problems, sure.  Some of those criticisms are at least partially legitimate, granted.  Anybody want to move to best Korea?  Anybody?
 
2014-05-03 02:05:43 PM  
99% of people have refrigerators. It can't be so bad here.
 
2014-05-03 02:08:57 PM  

namatad: truth
I look at something as simple as pot.
Reagan's war on drugs has done more to harm the US than everything else combined.
But slowly and surely, the states have individually been undoing the damage.
In NK there would just be a lot more dead people.

Brainwashing is a terrible thing.


Actually, drug use is legal, common, and socially accepted in North Korea. Go figure.
 
2014-05-03 02:36:38 PM  

whistleridge: namatad: truth
I look at something as simple as pot.
Reagan's war on drugs has done more to harm the US than everything else combined.
But slowly and surely, the states have individually been undoing the damage.
In NK there would just be a lot more dead people.

Brainwashing is a terrible thing.

Actually, drug use is legal, common, and socially accepted in North Korea. Go figure.


WHAT THE HELL
learn something new everyday !
thanks
 
2014-05-03 03:26:47 PM  
Granted we may have a higher prison population, but at least we don't throw entire families into slave labor camps because one family member "committed a crime" (often speaking out against the NK government, or attempting to escape NK). Truly guilt by association.
 
2014-05-03 03:52:39 PM  

nekom: Yeah, we have our problems, sure.  Some of those criticisms are at least partially legitimate, granted.  Anybody want to move to best Korea?  Anybody?


you have to admit though, its fascinating to see the various ills of our society re-branded as totalitarian propoganda. especially when at the heart of many of the points, there is actual truth. Some of them i'm not even sure if they are propoganda, or if they just read the news reports incorrectly (like the 'america is number one in homocide' one)
 
2014-05-03 03:57:03 PM  
And yet there is no mass exodus of Americans fleeing to Best Korea. Which is odd, because we actually could.
 
2014-05-03 04:04:46 PM  

Gyrfalcon: And yet there is no mass exodus of Americans fleeing to Best Korea. Which is odd, because we actually could.


The North Korea Tourism Bureau needs our help! To the photoshopmobile!*

* Not me; I have a thing.
 
2014-05-03 04:09:22 PM  
I suppose when the penalty for a lot of crimes is a bullet in the back of the head, you won't have much of a prison population problem.
 
2014-05-03 04:12:42 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: "Its chief executive, Obama, indulges himself in luxury almost every day, squandering hundred millions of dollars on his foreign trip in disregard of his people's wretched life."



But, but... helping the poor is socialism!
 
2014-05-03 04:14:31 PM  
I see Kim has been reading Free Republic  (about Obama spending money abroad and drone surveillance)
 
2014-05-03 04:14:53 PM  

whistleridge: "The U.S. true colors as a kingdom of racial discrimination was fully revealed by last year's case that the Florida Court gave a verdict of not guilty to a white policeman who shot to death an innocent black boy."

Hey! Zimmermann is a cop! I be he'll be delighted to know that!


Might not be referring to Zimmerman, it's not like there aren't plenty of examples.  Even if it is Zimmerman (and you're right, it probably is), that probably isn't intentional propaganda so much as it's a mistranslation.  The news had to be translated from English to Korean, then back into English, and "neighborhood watch" is kind of a weird concept to try and explain across a language barrier, especially when one side's frame of reference is a police state.  Secret or plainclothes police is probably the closest analogue.
 
2014-05-03 04:19:33 PM  

tlchwi02: nekom: Yeah, we have our problems, sure.  Some of those criticisms are at least partially legitimate, granted.  Anybody want to move to best Korea?  Anybody?

you have to admit though, its fascinating to see the various ills of our society re-branded as totalitarian propoganda. especially when at the heart of many of the points, there is actual truth. Some of them i'm not even sure if they are propoganda, or if they just read the news reports incorrectly (like the 'america is number one in homocide' one)


Probably a combination.  Some intentional propaganda, some translation errors and ideas that just don't translate well, and some problems just because the news sources they got the original information from are themselves hyperbolic or prone to misstatement (like getting the "Obama vacation" stuff from Fox).  It is really interesting to see which ones are very real issues, too.  It doesn't absolve NK of its own sins, by any means, but when a totalitarian police state can legitimately call us out on some of our shiat, that kind of says something.
 
2014-05-03 04:23:18 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-03 04:24:27 PM  

cman: In North Korea one man gets fatter while the rest of the population starves

That should tell one anything they need to know about North Korea


N.Korea has a middle class, by any standards.

http://world.time.com/2013/08/19/while-the-rest-of-north-korea-strug gl es-pyongyangs-fortunate-few-go-shopping/

And this is apparently a rather recent developement. Well in line with North Korea "developing" its own cellphone, purchasing an arguable excellent cellphone network etc.

The blackmarket is also tolerated and huge, and its common for people who are assigned to work at a factory not actually producing anything, instead participate in that, creating a parallel economy.
 
2014-05-03 04:28:35 PM  
They've got tree bark. And dirt. How could be so bad?
 
2014-05-03 04:29:53 PM  

Gyrfalcon: And yet there is no mass exodus of Americans fleeing to Best Korea. Which is odd, because we actually could.


Not really.

Whilst doing so for the very poor would be a good idea, the actual process would be beyond them.

What would you rather, beg for a living, or be showcased by Best Korea as an example of the failure of USA?


Obviously once more than a few hundreds arrived, Best Korea would start viewing it as a nuisance and a burden. But right now, if I were in the situation of being poor in USA, yeah, going to Best Korea would be totally an option.

Let them give me an apartment in Poynyang [sic], and have a television crew the doing some propaganda about how I escaped my situation in USA to Best Korea. Better than sleeping in the rain.
 
2014-05-03 04:31:17 PM  

whistleridge: "The U.S. also has 2.2 millions of prisoners at present, the highest number in the world. For lack of prisons on the part of the government, individuals are providing detention facilities to make money."

Sadly, that one is 100% true.


Wait, I can offer detention facilities to make money?  Where do I apply for that?
 
2014-05-03 04:34:08 PM  

cman: In North Korea one man gets fatter while the rest of the population starves



That's because Li'l Kim likes Soylent Lean.
 
2014-05-03 04:36:11 PM  
If sanctions against North Korea are to have teeth, the sanctions need to extend to China as well. Without China's aid, North Korea can't exist. China is more than happy to let North Korea exist regardless of how horrible things get there.


North Korea is more concentrated evil, but China is far and away the greater evil.
 
2014-05-03 04:41:25 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Wait, I can offer detention facilities to make money?  Where do I apply for that?


Here.

But it might be easier and less hassle to just buy stock:

img.fark.net

There are many other companies like this as well. You will need your fainting couch when you learn that they don't have particularly good or humane records, and they're widely accused of graft and cronyism.
 
2014-05-03 04:47:16 PM  
I'll get around to reading the list after I've had my morning bird and snow coffee.
 
2014-05-03 04:55:12 PM  

namatad: whistleridge: namatad: truth
I look at something as simple as pot.
Reagan's war on drugs has done more to harm the US than everything else combined.
But slowly and surely, the states have individually been undoing the damage.
In NK there would just be a lot more dead people.

Brainwashing is a terrible thing.

Actually, drug use is legal, common, and socially accepted in North Korea. Go figure.

WHAT THE HELL
learn something new everyday !
thanks


That's hardly fair though, the meth use is on par with when the tobacco lobby controlled parts of the government.  (so, like, the 1800s)
 
2014-05-03 04:58:32 PM  
Kind of ironic that he goes on about President Obama's spending, when Kim Jong-Un himself manages to out-spend his own father in regards to luxury items when many of his own people are starving to death, or are near starvation. Unlike the US there are few, if any programs in North Korea that assist people in buying food. Instead they rely on aid from other countries, and much of that does not reach those who need it most.

Kim Jong-Un spent over $600 million in 2012 while 2.8 million of his people struggle with undernutrition.
 
2014-05-03 04:59:27 PM  

whistleridge: HeartBurnKid: Wait, I can offer detention facilities to make money?  Where do I apply for that?

Here.

But it might be easier and less hassle to just buy stock:

[img.fark.net image 506x270]

There are many other companies like this as well. You will need your fainting couch when you learn that they don't have particularly good or humane records, and they're widely accused of graft and cronyism.


They spent an estimated 10 billion lobbying and buying local governments back in ~2008.  If you added them up they'd probably be in the top 10 of bribing and lobbying groups, but there are a lot of private prison businesses.
 
2014-05-03 05:02:51 PM  
"Let us all be judged by the least among us"
 
2014-05-03 05:08:45 PM  
Few places on earth are worse than NK these days. There's a smattering of hellscapes that are more horrifying, but nothing on the scale of NK.
 
2014-05-03 05:33:04 PM  
img.fark.net
Am I the only person in the world to have noticed that North Korea called Obama a "wicked black monkey" yesterday? Not even Fox would call him that.
 
2014-05-03 05:53:54 PM  

namatad: whistleridge: namatad: truth
I look at something as simple as pot.
Reagan's war on drugs has done more to harm the US than everything else combined.
But slowly and surely, the states have individually been undoing the damage.
In NK there would just be a lot more dead people.

Brainwashing is a terrible thing.

Actually, drug use is legal, common, and socially accepted in North Korea. Go figure.

WHAT THE HELL
learn something new everyday !
thanks


No it isn't. Read the stories and look for sources, you won't find anything other than a link to the same blog. There was a link buried a few blogs in that pointed to a 2011 NYTimes piece, however, it said that drugs were illegal, but there were a lot of addicts, and NK doesn't have the resources to root out all the activity. It has a huge meth problem in the north, but no evidence was given that there were state-run manufacturing facilities.

I wish people would quit using the Washington Post as a supposed source. They just make up crap. It was blatant in that series I read above, as they would claim the link supported their argument, but then when clicked, it was a completely different headline and no support in the body of what they claimed.

I don't like North Korea, but it's a huge jump from having a problem with a bunch of tweakers, to saying that North Korea has state-run drug labs and encourages drug use.
 
2014-05-03 05:58:30 PM  
The best lies always have a little truth to them.
 
2014-05-03 06:10:11 PM  
Lemme guess, our response is "we may be shiatty, but we're not as shiatty as North Korea!"

*scans thread*

Yeeeeeep.
 
2014-05-03 06:37:16 PM  

sendtodave: Lemme guess, our response is "we may be shiatty, but we're not as shiatty as North Korea!"

*scans thread*

Yeeeeeep.


I'm sure we'll be less shiatty once we have a proper budget that takes insurance away from people and lines the pockets of the rich even more, right?

/Country isolated from outside world doesn't understand outside world, film at 11.
 
2014-05-03 06:57:26 PM  

whistleridge: "Under the citizenship act, racialism is getting more severe in the U.S. The gaps between the minorities and the whites are very wide in the exercise of such rights to work and elect."

Citizenship Act?


i.chzbgr.com

Methinks NK's dear leader has been watching a few too many sci-fi movies...
 
2014-05-03 07:12:30 PM  

Wake Up Sheeple: No it isn't. Read the stories and look for sources, you won't find anything other than a link to the same blog. There was a link buried a few blogs in that pointed to a 2011 NYTimes piece, however, it said that drugs were illegal, but there were a lot of addicts, and NK doesn't have the resources to root out all the activity. It has a huge meth problem in the north, but no evidence was given that there were state-run manufacturing facilities.

I wish people would quit using the Washington Post as a supposed source. They just make up crap. It was blatant in that series I read above, as they would claim the link supported their argument, but then when clicked, it was a completely different headline and no support in the body of what they claimed.

I don't like North Korea, but it's a huge jump from having a problem with a bunch of tweakers, to saying that North Korea has state-run drug labs and encourages drug use.


sslimgs.xkcd.com

See, when one person offers a citation to back their argument, you can't just say 'wow, that's not true, your pulitzer-prize winning and widely respected source is just a bunch of lies' without offering some well-sourced counterargument of your own. Otherwise, you may as well just say 'I disagree with that, but I don't really have a reason for it. Hey, did you know I'm completely full of shiat?'
 
2014-05-03 07:49:22 PM  

whistleridge: Wake Up Sheeple: No it isn't. Read the stories and look for sources, you won't find anything other than a link to the same blog. There was a link buried a few blogs in that pointed to a 2011 NYTimes piece, however, it said that drugs were illegal, but there were a lot of addicts, and NK doesn't have the resources to root out all the activity. It has a huge meth problem in the north, but no evidence was given that there were state-run manufacturing facilities.

I wish people would quit using the Washington Post as a supposed source. They just make up crap. It was blatant in that series I read above, as they would claim the link supported their argument, but then when clicked, it was a completely different headline and no support in the body of what they claimed.

I don't like North Korea, but it's a huge jump from having a problem with a bunch of tweakers, to saying that North Korea has state-run drug labs and encourages drug use.

[sslimgs.xkcd.com image 500x271]

See, when one person offers a citation to back their argument, you can't just say 'wow, that's not true, your pulitzer-prize winning and widely respected source is just a bunch of lies' without offering some well-sourced counterargument of your own. Otherwise, you may as well just say 'I disagree with that, but I don't really have a reason for it. Hey, did you know I'm completely full of shiat?'


Not sure if serious.

My links are the exact same, since I just critiqued the blog and followed the link chain that was provided.

You DO know you linked to a blog that's hosted at WaPo right? You obviously didn't read the articles you yourself cited.

I know you don't like NK either, but you can't just post a piece that sounds like a 4th grade research paper based on hearsay and scant evidence and expect people to take you seriously. You sound exactly like North Korea when you do that.
 
2014-05-03 08:14:22 PM  

sendtodave: Lemme guess, our response is "we may be shiatty, but we're not as shiatty as North Korea!"

*scans thread*

Yeeeeeep.


Under the circumstances, what better response could there be?

"My god, Kim Jung-un is right! How could we have failed to notice the inconsistencies between our rhetoric and the miseries of life in the terrible United States of Amerika! Why aren't things more like the paradise that is the People's Democratic Republic of Best Korea?"

[swoon]
 
2014-05-03 08:21:49 PM  

Wake Up Sheeple: whistleridge: Wake Up Sheeple: No it isn't. Read the stories and look for sources, you won't find anything other than a link to the same blog. There was a link buried a few blogs in that pointed to a 2011 NYTimes piece, however, it said that drugs were illegal, but there were a lot of addicts, and NK doesn't have the resources to root out all the activity. It has a huge meth problem in the north, but no evidence was given that there were state-run manufacturing facilities.

I wish people would quit using the Washington Post as a supposed source. They just make up crap. It was blatant in that series I read above, as they would claim the link supported their argument, but then when clicked, it was a completely different headline and no support in the body of what they claimed.

I don't like North Korea, but it's a huge jump from having a problem with a bunch of tweakers, to saying that North Korea has state-run drug labs and encourages drug use.

[sslimgs.xkcd.com image 500x271]

See, when one person offers a citation to back their argument, you can't just say 'wow, that's not true, your pulitzer-prize winning and widely respected source is just a bunch of lies' without offering some well-sourced counterargument of your own. Otherwise, you may as well just say 'I disagree with that, but I don't really have a reason for it. Hey, did you know I'm completely full of shiat?'

Not sure if serious.

My links are the exact same, since I just critiqued the blog and followed the link chain that was provided.

You DO know you linked to a blog that's hosted at WaPo right? You obviously didn't read the articles you yourself cited.

I know you don't like NK either, but you can't just post a piece that sounds like a 4th grade research paper based on hearsay and scant evidence and expect people to take you seriously. You sound exactly like North Korea when you do that.


http://mcfarland.metapress.com/content/006pn78u21333536/
https://news.vice.com/article/north-korean-meth-motorcycle-gangs-arm y- snipers-and-a-guy-named-rambo
 
2014-05-03 08:58:42 PM  

Last Man on Earth: whistleridge: "The U.S. true colors as a kingdom of racial discrimination was fully revealed by last year's case that the Florida Court gave a verdict of not guilty to a white policeman who shot to death an innocent black boy."

Hey! Zimmermann is a cop! I be he'll be delighted to know that!

Might not be referring to Zimmerman, it's not like there aren't plenty of examples.  Even if it is Zimmerman (and you're right, it probably is), that probably isn't intentional propaganda so much as it's a mistranslation.  The news had to be translated from English to Korean, then back into English, and "neighborhood watch" is kind of a weird concept to try and explain across a language barrier, especially when one side's frame of reference is a police state.  Secret or plainclothes police is probably the closest analogue.


Yeah I could see the assumption of him being a cop, since I kinda doubt their own citizens are allowed to own or use guns. Don't think they'd like that at all.
 
2014-05-03 09:02:08 PM  
TheBigJerk:

http://mcfarland.metapress.com/content/006pn78u21333536/
https://news.vice.com/article/north-kore ...


And those articles don't prove anything either.

In early 2006, North Korea staged a public crackdown on meth. The regime issued a decree announcing that all drug offenders would be sentenced to death regardless of their "status, services, or achievements." Meth is still common - defectors have described a grim, surreal world where bingdu is used as medicine for headaches - but international seizures have tapered off. In a report to Congress last year, the State Department stated there were "no confirmed instances of large-scale drug trafficking" involving North Korea in 2010, and "if such activity persists, it is certainly on a smaller scale."

Looks like they just have a lot of tweakers they can't control. You do not want a country of tweakers, because nothing will get done, except for more crime, some violent.

Continuing on in the article, it says that people from the US and EU are participating, some of them military. Does that make it that the US is sponsoring the activity too? No, it's just a bunch of tweakers with a lucrative drug trade.

Last September, federal prosecutors unsealed an indictment charging five former elite American and European military snipers with conspiring to import cocaine for a Colombian cartel, and for plotting to assassinate a DEA agent. Preet Bharara, the US Attorney in Manhattan, described the men as "an international band of mercenary marksmen who enlisted their elite military training to serve as hired guns for evil ends." The case, he said, was "ripped from the pages of a Tom Clancy novel."

I don't see official government involvement, other than a lot of speculation. Sure, it'd be nice to think that NK could be held responsible, and that they're all-powerful within their borders, but they're not. They're just a weak nation getting taken advantage of by the massive drug cartels.

Two federal conspiracy cases unsealed in late 2013 paint a lurid picture of a stranger-than-fiction international underworld that uses North Korea as a haven for meth production. According to court documents and DEA sources, the meeting in Thailand last January was a pivotal moment in an ongoing investigation that stretches from Southeast Asia to West Africa. So far eight men have been arrested and extradited to face conspiracy charges in Manhattan federal court.

I see some rogue agents, but I just don't see where the North Korean government is setting up meth labs and running an drug-operation of their own. The articles so far have provided no proof of that.
 
2014-05-03 11:46:28 PM  

Wake Up Sheeple: Not sure if serious.

My links are the exact same, since I just critiqued the blog and followed the link chain that was provided.

You DO know you linked to a blog that's hosted at WaPo right? You obviously didn't read the articles you yourself cited.

I know you don't like NK either, but you can't just post a piece that sounds like a 4th grade research paper based on hearsay and scant evidence and expect people to take you seriously. You sound exactly like North Korea when you do that.


Oh noes! Truly, you have eviscerated my posting with your sharp descriptions of a 4th grade paper.

I admit it: I am entirely wrong.

So is the LA Times, The Wall Street Journal, and  Foreign Policy. I guess someone needs to call them and tell them a guy with the username of Wake Up Sheeple doesn't agree with them, so that's it. They're done.

I know you don't like being called out as a pretentious douche who is wrong and doesn't want to admit it, but you can't just post a whining complaint that sounds like  4th grade schoolyard taunt that's based on nothing and expect people to take you seriously. You sound exactly like the sort of idiot who would use a screenname with the word 'Sheeple' in it when you do that.
 
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