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(CNN)   How 'Star Wars' ruined sci-fi   ( divider line
    More: Obvious, Star Wars, MacArthur Foundation, Forever War, Francois Truffaut, Episode VII, The Big Book of  
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6059 clicks; posted to Geek » on 03 May 2014 at 2:07 PM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2014-05-03 12:00:17 PM  
5 votes:

Magorn: About goddamn time somebody said it. Lucas is a crap writer, crap director.  He's basically a special effects wizard who somehow got a director's chair.  Call me elitist if you want, but I don't consider star wars to be sci-fi at all, and i have little respect for fans of the novels who think they are.  And i say that even though I am a huge fan if space opera generally

Repeat to yourself it's just a show; you should really just relax.
2014-05-03 03:30:52 PM  
4 votes:

jaytkay: *Reads thread*

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*reads article*
2014-05-03 01:04:38 PM  
3 votes:
Star Wars gave us Carrie Fisher in that golden bikini.  It can ruin whatever it wants.
2014-05-03 05:10:55 PM  
2 votes:

Any Pie Left: Mote in God's Eye and the sequel would make a great movie... The stuff Niven and Pournelle wrote as a team was always written in a cinematic form, like novelizations of a screenplay. They even list the cast in the book as if it was a film. Adapting those would be easy.

I do NOT want to see Hollywood's take on "Ringworld": they could get the *look* right with modern FX technology, but they would ruin the STORY.

There was a story? I mean, aside from "We're at this ring. We're flying... There's a thing... We're flying... There's another thing... We're flying... Point that tasp somewhere else, buddy... We're flying..."
2014-05-03 04:03:40 PM  
2 votes:

Mad_Radhu: 2wolves: Any story that uses Fate to shape itself is fantasy, not Science Fiction.

Babylon 5 managed to pull of the prophecy thing well, by having a main chapter travel back in time to become Valen, the one who wrote the prophecies.

Zathras does all the work. Zathras never gets the credit.
Zathras used to it now.
2014-05-03 03:06:33 PM  
2 votes:
One thing ruined science fiction.

2014-05-04 12:38:41 AM  
1 vote:
Well, let's see. We can remove Star Wars like it never happened...

Hrm. Sci-fi ends up remaining a terribly small "niche" element nobody takes seriously. As a result, there's also no fantasy or comic book explosion in the media...

In case you forgot, "Star Wars" is the single event that exploded into the American conscious that pretty much made (probably) everything you like in media today possible. Before that you had a whole bunch of shiatty B movies and Star Trek, which by the point Star Wars was created was just another long dead, cancelled and forgotten TV show.

You're farking welcome.
2014-05-03 10:45:11 PM  
1 vote:

gunther_bumpass: Stratohead: gunther_bumpass: Thank god for Cory Doctorow. He'll save us from this living hell.

Cory Doctrow will save us from Hipster Fandom?

BoingBoing is the epicenter of SciFi Posers everywhere.... if you want to suck up to're in the wrong forums

He's the best thing to happen to literature since the first vaguely-mammalian family's slowest offspring spread its own feces on the wall of the home cave.

Cory Doctorow is a pedantic, petulant manchild whose "novels" test the limits of tolerability. His male protagonists are unlikeable entitled douchebags, and his female characters are so flimsy and sub-heinlein in their composition that it makes you wonder if he's ever had a conversation with a woman in his life. The "plots" of his "novels" are scarcely concealed vehicles for his promotion of a cyber-libertarian adolescent utopia, and read like the breathless, hyperbolic blog posts he's so famous for. He's the worst thing to happen to SF in decades. William Gibson has chunks of Cory Doctorow in his stools.
2014-05-03 08:52:15 PM  
1 vote:
Star Wars is a crappy science fiction movie in the same way M.A.S.H. is a crappy war movie.
2014-05-03 05:32:24 PM  
1 vote:
You don't have to try and impress us. But now I have a decent picture of how you spend your weekend evenings. I can see now why you enjoy Doctrow so much.

Perhaps I should rephrase that in layman's terms.

"Continuing a tradition dating back thousands of years, Cory Doctorow is the modern master of smearing his own shiat on a wall."
2014-05-03 05:30:02 PM  
1 vote:
2014-05-03 05:26:17 PM  
1 vote:

bloobeary: I was with him, right up until he said that J. J. Abrams had talent.

That's where he lost me.

He has a great talent for taking well known characters, stripping them of what makes them interesting, and putting them in an action movie.
2014-05-03 05:05:41 PM  
1 vote:

Relatively Obscure: Is there a term for hipster nerds?

Just hipster is sufficient. "Hipster Nerds" would be a redundancy, like "ATM machine", or "unexpected surprise".

Actually, ATM machine might not be a redundancy if you are referring to a certain type of pornographic performer who delivers the goods frequently and without fail.
2014-05-03 04:34:17 PM  
1 vote:
I don't read anything on a recommendation any more, since the awful horror of the China Melville incident and the even worse 3 days of my life wasted watching Patrick Rothfuss masturbate onto a page. TWO of that farkers books I read. TWO. I still see it at night.
2014-05-03 04:22:18 PM  
1 vote:

gunther_bumpass: Thank god for Cory Doctorow. He'll save us from this living hell.

Cory Doctrow will save us from Hipster Fandom?

BoingBoing is the epicenter of SciFi Posers everywhere.... if you want to suck up to're in the wrong forums
2014-05-03 04:17:01 PM  
1 vote:
SciFi Serials?
2014-05-03 03:44:27 PM  
1 vote:
What a whiny biatch. If you want better sci-fi, then either write it yourself, or enjoy what's already out there that you think is better, but don't complain about how one particular series is more popular and influential than others. The existence of Star Wars should in no way hinder your enjoyment of better sci-fi, and complaining about it makes you sound like a childish prick. In which case, STFU and spare us the diatribe.
2014-05-03 02:54:17 PM  
1 vote:
Sci fi used to be rocket ships, space babes, and cardboard aliens. piss on anything this guy might say or think.
2014-05-03 02:24:52 PM  
1 vote:
Star Wars is awesome.  It's the prequels that ruined sci-fi.
2014-05-03 02:12:00 PM  
1 vote:
If Star Wars actually were science fiction it would be a lot worse.
2014-05-03 10:18:46 AM  
1 vote:
No one likes a bitter nerd
2014-05-03 09:47:17 AM  
1 vote:
Sci fi has been dead since Frank Herbert died.

There i said it
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