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(St. John's Telegram)   The Energy Department prepares for changing climate by hoarding gasoline. You think they might know something the rest of us don't?   (thetelegram.com) divider line 85
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vpb [TotalFark]
2014-05-03 08:56:02 AM  
Maybe that there is climate change?
 
2014-05-03 09:09:28 AM  
Since this type of storm happens every 30 years or so, I figure it will be 25 before some future politician sells it off.
 
2014-05-03 09:52:10 AM  
Gotta jack those prices up for Memorial day
 
2014-05-03 09:53:46 AM  
Is it mainpage conspiracy theory day?
 
2014-05-03 09:56:46 AM  
I assume this is some sort of rotating supply; gasoline goes bad pretty quickly, even diesel.
 
2014-05-03 10:00:37 AM  
Storing up resources in case of emergences does not have any tie in with climate change, space aliens or zombies.
 
2014-05-03 10:03:10 AM  
What about the Gulf Coast area? Florida to Texas get the majority of all hurricanes.
 
2014-05-03 10:04:20 AM  
No worries. I heard they are making jet fuel from air so we're good. We can go back to wasting.
 
2014-05-03 10:06:26 AM  
s/climate change/war with russia/
 
2014-05-03 10:13:02 AM  
The best way to hurt Putin would be to release a few hundred million barrels from the national oil reserve.  Drop the price of oil below $85 and keep it there for six months and Russia will have to cry "Uncle!".  Nobody in OPEC is going to cut back that much to offset it.
 
2014-05-03 10:13:31 AM  
So strange. It's not like we've ever held has reserves before.
 
2014-05-03 10:14:16 AM  
The SPR currently holds at total of 696 million gallons.

With the addition of this cache, it will now hold 697 million gallons.

Clearly, these are the end times.
 
2014-05-03 10:16:27 AM  
Meanwhile, over at Infowars......
i1280.photobucket.com
Where bat-shiat crazy is a job description.
 
2014-05-03 10:18:40 AM  

Jocktopus: I assume this is some sort of rotating supply; gasoline goes bad pretty quickly, even diesel.


This. Particularly the new type of ethanol-added gas, which treats humidity the way a sponge treats dishwater and seems to lose the aromatics so quickly that you can't expect an outboard to not have a carb full of varnish in the spring.

I call bogus, because of a) the above; you've got about three months before it should all be cycled through, and b) "a million gallons"  is actually not a lot of gasoline. It's just short of 24,000 barrels of oil equivalent. But it sounds big to the innumerate and people who drive Toyota Echos.
 
2014-05-03 10:19:32 AM  
The paranoids are going to love this story.

Reminds me of the hoopla over John Denver storing some gas back in the olden times.
 
2014-05-03 10:21:43 AM  

Some Pilgrim: s/climate change/war with russia/


You sed what?
 
2014-05-03 10:21:44 AM  
I am very scared because history has shown whatever the government does is always correct.
 
2014-05-03 10:27:42 AM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: The best way to hurt Putin would be to release a few hundred million barrels from the national oil reserve.


... into the Moskva.
 
2014-05-03 10:31:55 AM  
They use it to make the chemtrails, duh.
 
2014-05-03 10:32:40 AM  

ReverendJynxed: No worries. I heard they are making jet fuel from air so we're good. We can go back to wasting.


Close -  they're starting to make gasoline and diesel from natural gas, which we have plenty of

http://chenected.aiche.org/chemicals/first-u-s-plant-to-make-gasolin e- and-diesel-fuel-from-natural-gas-2/
 
2014-05-03 10:36:17 AM  
Wow. Even when climate change isn't even the center of the story the deniers come out in force.

It's almost like they need to get a thick layer of derp everywhere before the evidence arrives.
 
2014-05-03 10:39:44 AM  

ReverendJynxed: No worries. I heard they are making jet fuel from air so we're good. We can go back to wasting.


Damn! I thought you were kidding, but you're not!

http://sploid.gizmodo.com/solar-jet-fuel-has-been-created-for-the-fi rs t-time-1571192127/+caseychan
 
2014-05-03 10:41:10 AM  
The juice, the precious juice....
 
2014-05-03 10:43:11 AM  
Sigh. I keep asking this question... Can someone PLEASE just tell me if I should panic?

/can't seem to get an answer
 
2014-05-03 10:52:47 AM  
Unless you don't know that generators don't run on gasoline

no, I don't think they know something the rest of us don't.

note: gasoline reserves are temporary, you can't store it forever. unlike crude. they want this for availability regarding possible near-to immediate needs
 
2014-05-03 10:56:20 AM  

eggrolls: The SPR currently holds at total of 696 million gallons.

With the addition of this cache, it will now hold 697 million gallons.

Clearly, these are the end times.


This project isn't about the SPR in spite of the article mentioning the SPR at the end. And the article also screws up the capacity of the SPR. It says 696 million gallons. The SPR has 696 million barrels. And those barrels are of crude, not refined gasoline.

But yeah, the notion that this is a conspiracy is laughable.
 
2014-05-03 10:58:51 AM  

Farking Canuck: Wow. Even when climate change isn't even the center of the story the deniers come out in force.

It's almost like they need to get a thick layer of derp everywhere before the evidence arrives.


It is like zerg creep to them.
 
2014-05-03 11:04:13 AM  
So those folks will now be at the mercy of the government for gasoline too? The same government that did such an efficient job of getting things working after Sandy and Katrina? Those poor people.
 
2014-05-03 11:10:05 AM  

abhorrent1: Sigh. I keep asking this question... Can someone PLEASE just tell me if I should panic?

/can't seem to get an answer


Yes
 
2014-05-03 11:12:52 AM  
Insurance companies believe in global warming
Wall Street believes in global warming
The CIA believes in global warming
Every climatologist believes in global warming
The Oil Companies believe in global warming

But nah, it's totally a con job by a bunch of hippies, who can't actually do anything on account of being stoned, to rob hard-working americans of $10 a month to counteract the effects now, which will cost more to combat the longer we wait.

Stupid hippies.
 
2014-05-03 11:14:11 AM  

stratagos: abhorrent1: Sigh. I keep asking this question... Can someone PLEASE just tell me if I should panic?

/can't seem to get an answer

Yes


Panic is probably a strong word, but it really is time to start working on it. Ask your insurance company.
 
2014-05-03 11:23:55 AM  
oh look it's going to be hurricane season again soon
 
2014-05-03 11:34:45 AM  

Valiente: Jocktopus: I assume this is some sort of rotating supply; gasoline goes bad pretty quickly, even diesel.

This. Particularly the new type of ethanol-added gas, which treats humidity the way a sponge treats dishwater and seems to lose the aromatics so quickly that you can't expect an outboard to not have a carb full of varnish in the spring.

I call bogus, because of a) the above; you've got about three months before it should all be cycled through, and b) "a million gallons"  is actually not a lot of gasoline. It's just short of 24,000 barrels of oil equivalent. But it sounds big to the innumerate and people who drive Toyota Echos.


The gas reserve is going to be used in much the same way a prepper bug out bag is used. Its a tide you over until regular service is restored enough. It wont substain the east coast beyond a few day, a week at best.

But thats enough to keep things limping along until regular service is being restored
 
2014-05-03 11:36:27 AM  

ghare: stratagos: abhorrent1: Sigh. I keep asking this question... Can someone PLEASE just tell me if I should panic?

/can't seem to get an answer

Yes

Panic is probably a strong word, but it really is time to start working on it. Ask your insurance company.


You're adding too much complexity. He didn't ask *why* he should panic, he just asked if he should.

And, hell, if you're going on the Internet for advice? I'd say panic is warranted
 
2014-05-03 11:42:54 AM  
You can't stockpile gasoline for very long.
Or is it another wrong headline?
 
2014-05-03 11:45:05 AM  
/Oh, all right. Probably a rotating stock overage.
 
2014-05-03 11:49:57 AM  
So if i read correctly we are selling $200million in gulf reserves to buy 1 million gallons of northeast reserves? $200 a gallon? Maybe i missed something. First cup of coffee still needed.
 
2014-05-03 11:51:40 AM  
Do they know something we don't?

Of course
 
2014-05-03 11:52:13 AM  
I guess it never says all the proceeds will go to this...
 
2014-05-03 11:54:22 AM  
Nope. It actually does say 200 mil for 1 mil gallons. Seems a bit steep even by hurricane gouging standards.
 
2014-05-03 11:56:18 AM  
One million gallons of gasoline?

Where's Dr. Evil? I wanna see Mike Myers, stat!
 
2014-05-03 12:03:44 PM  
Interesting, since gasoline has a shelf-life, IIRC
 
2014-05-03 12:28:10 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Is it mainpage conspiracy theory day?


Recognizing that climate change is happening and realizing that the derp brigade isn't going to allow us to mitigate it is a "conspiracy theory"?
 
2014-05-03 12:33:15 PM  

ghare: Insurance companies believe in global warming
Wall Street believes in global warming
The CIA believes in global warming
Every climatologist believes in global warming
The Oil Companies believe in global warming

But nah, it's totally a con job by a bunch of hippies, who can't actually do anything on account of being stoned, to rob hard-working americans of $10 a month to counteract the effects now, which will cost more to combat the longer we wait.

Stupid hippies.


The main problem is that many of the people you listed came around on global warming only recently.  Before that, they were actively fueling the propaganda against it, as some still are.  It's like the War on Drugs, nobody can explain exactly how we're going to win it or even why we're fighting it, except "drugs are bad, m'kay?"
 
2014-05-03 12:39:53 PM  

Quackadam: Storing up resources in case of emergences does not have any tie in with climate change, space aliens or zombies.


...Bigfoot
 
2014-05-03 12:42:52 PM  
FT poorly written FA

" The federal government offered New Yorkers smarting from Superstorm Sandy some hope Friday that they won't see a repeat of chronic gasoline shortages,"

Farking commas, how do they work?
 
2014-05-03 12:45:53 PM  
I don't know what the energy department is preparing for, but now we know where to score some free gas!

img.fark.net

/Climate change is a long term problem.
/Fuel shortages are caused by short term problems.
/I don't think its climate change that has them panicked.
 
2014-05-03 12:49:10 PM  

way south: /Climate change is a long term problem.
/Fuel shortages are caused by short term problems.
/I don't think its climate change that has them panicked.


Storms, which may be of higher frequency and energy in part due to climate change, are short term problems.
 
2014-05-03 01:09:07 PM  
Now they'll need a bunch of this for an inflated price.

g-ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2014-05-03 01:11:28 PM  
Your vehicle will be useless in a true disaster.

Roads impassable, cops are all zombies now.  A moving vehicle become a carnival game where all someone has to do is shoot the occupants to win prizes.

Forget it.  You want camouflage, a pistol and a rifle, minimalist backpacking gear, night-vision equipment, and similarly equipped friends.

You have a far better chance of making it as a foot soldier than your fluffed up 4x4 has of making it as a tank.

/ "bug out vehicles" are for people who watch a lot of TV.
 
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