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2014-05-03 01:21:40 AM  
Then, Duke Energy discovered the squatters had enjoyed more than free rent.

Duke sucks.
 
2014-05-03 02:18:43 AM  
I can't believe this crap. What the heck happened to the anti-squatting laws we used to have? AKA trespassing?

You can be arrested for trespassing in an abandoned house that's falling down, but if you break into a home where the owner is away and move in -- apparently you can get away with anything.

What legislator wrote these new laws? We're starting to get like the UK when it comes to squatters rights. Over there, the owners come back from vacation, find someone living in their home and have to go to court to get them out.

It's bad enough to be overseas having to constantly be on guard against fanatics trying to blow your head off, let alone being worried about what squatters are doing in your home and what they're doing to anything you consider precious. That kind of worry can get you killed.

Why don't they move into all of those houses banks repossessed and are letting rot? Probably because the banks can have them thrown out much faster.

Seems like a bit of neighborly justice is called for here -- with baseball bats.
 
2014-05-03 05:53:00 AM  
"Duke said they also stole thousands of dollars worth of electricity while they were there."


How much electricity were they using to spend thousands in a year. If they pushed it they could have hit two thousand, maybe three. But I suspect it was really hundreds of dollars.
 
2014-05-03 06:13:39 AM  
Should have just waited for the soldier to return and sort things out.
 
2014-05-03 06:23:00 AM  
This tells me I should move to the house across the street from my former house. They hadn't been there in about a year and it was being foreclosed upon.

It also tells me that companies not only have more rights to public speech, but also a greater right to file charges for theft than the average person - even a homeowner.
 
2014-05-03 06:23:11 AM  
What? I don't even.
 
2014-05-03 06:31:36 AM  
You wouldn't squat in someones car. You wouldn't squat on someones TV. You wouldn't squat on someones pirated movies,

Simple solution. When you leave your house unattended, fill it with alligators  Nobody in their right mind would want to squat in a house full of alligators.
 
2014-05-03 06:32:43 AM  
Where are these guys?
 
2014-05-03 06:34:12 AM  
I meant, where are these guys?
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-03 06:37:30 AM  

phrawgh: I meant, where are these guys?
[img.fark.net image 599x520]


I see tits on that guy. Now I'm feeling weird and confused..
 
2014-05-03 06:40:02 AM  
Didn't change the locks while the squatters were away? Whose fault is that.
 
2014-05-03 06:45:10 AM  

Bslim: phrawgh: I meant, where are these guys?
[img.fark.net image 599x520]

I see tits on that guy. Now I'm feeling weird and confused..


Embrace the moobs...
 
2014-05-03 06:45:35 AM  
Squat on a the pot like Rerun did.
 
2014-05-03 06:51:21 AM  

phrawgh: I meant, where are these guys?
[img.fark.net image 599x520]


They are squatting on public land.
 
2014-05-03 06:52:11 AM  

nytmare: Didn't change the locks while the squatters were away? Whose fault is that.


Just because the map does not say "here be dragons" anymore does not mean there are no dragons there anymore...

There are no rules. There is a section of humanity that have deluded themselves to think there are but there are not.

Live in your home or someone will be living there and you may not like that.
 
2014-05-03 06:56:26 AM  
I missed it. Where is the soldier now? When this guy returned couldn't this turn into standing one's ground type of encounter? If you can get away with just the feeling of being threatened as an excuse to kill someone, surely having someone try to take over your home should be an easy out.
 
2014-05-03 07:01:04 AM  

Bslim: phrawgh: I meant, where are these guys?
[img.fark.net image 599x520]

I see tits on that guy. Now I'm feeling weird and confused..


His name is Robert Paulson.
 
2014-05-03 07:23:04 AM  
I lol'd at the before and after shots of how well the volunteers did to "clean up" the place.

Trashed back yard?  *VOILA*  Little bit cleaner backyard with dead grass and a porta potty!

Nasty algae infested, above-ground pool?  *VOILA*  Pool is gone, algae muck and disgusting steps left behind!

Greasy hermit squatting in your home with his woman?  *VOILA*  He's gone!  er, no... he's back.
 
2014-05-03 07:26:47 AM  

EvilEgg: "Duke said they also stole thousands of dollars worth of electricity while they were there."


How much electricity were they using to spend thousands in a year. If they pushed it they could have hit two thousand, maybe three. But I suspect it was really hundreds of dollars.


All I can think of is if it really was that much, it might have to do with how he rigged it to get electricity...

But yeah, at the most I would say $500 and that's still enough to arrest for a felony.
 
2014-05-03 07:27:19 AM  

Rik01: Seems like a bit of neighborly justice is called for here -- with baseball bats.


I'd prefer pool cues. Or just a good old fashioned line.
 
2014-05-03 07:32:14 AM  

Rik01: What legislator wrote these new laws? We're starting to get like the UK when it comes to squatters rights. Over there, the owners come back from vacation, find someone living in their home and have to go to court to get them out.


I believe squatter laws are holdovers from medieval times.  That's part of the reason why it's always been worse in the UK (they have an even bigger morass of holdover laws and precedence to deal with).  I think you may be confusing this with renter's rights laws.  Two different things (though it wouldn't surprise me if there were some loopholes in the latter).
 
2014-05-03 07:36:24 AM  
That seems a bit of a risky crime to pick given that the guy is probably armed and if you're farking around in his house he can pretty much shoot you no questions asked.
 
2014-05-03 07:42:07 AM  

Rik01: Why don't they move into all of those houses banks repossessed and are letting rot? Probably because the banks can have them thrown out much faster.



Problem is that no one wants those  dilapidated houses, which is why the banks can't even give them away.
They want the good houses people still live in, which is why the banks rush to foreclose on those homes as well.

/only the Feds would be in a rush to put people off of land no one wants.
 
2014-05-03 07:43:02 AM  

SpdrJay: Bslim: phrawgh: I meant, where are these guys?
[img.fark.net image 599x520]

I see tits on that guy. Now I'm feeling weird and confused..

His name is Robert Paulson.


hahahaha
 
2014-05-03 07:44:08 AM  

Satanus Maximus: All I can think of is if it really was that much, it might have to do with how he rigged it to get electricity...

But yeah, at the most I would say $500 and that's still enough to arrest for a felony.


We're talking Florida here guys.  It cost me more than $100 a month to run the electricity in a 2 bedroom apartment.  In the hottest of summer, it was sometimes over $200.
Depending how big this house is, a year's worth of electricity could easily approach $3000--unless you never run the AC, which would be unbearable down there in 100% humidity.
 
2014-05-03 08:27:14 AM  

ReverendJasen: Satanus Maximus: All I can think of is if it really was that much, it might have to do with how he rigged it to get electricity...

But yeah, at the most I would say $500 and that's still enough to arrest for a felony.

We're talking Florida here guys.  It cost me more than $100 a month to run the electricity in a 2 bedroom apartment.  In the hottest of summer, it was sometimes over $200.
Depending how big this house is, a year's worth of electricity could easily approach $3000--unless you never run the AC, which would be unbearable down there in 100% humidity.


Yeah, I see your point.  I avoid Florida but I see your point.  I lived in Okinawa for 8 years, which the climate is basically the same as Florida's.  I rarely ran the AC and always hung my clothes out to dry since the dryer would really get the meter chuggin'.  I least I paid was about 8000 yen a month (about $70 at the time) if I was careful.  If I wasn't, I'd easily pay 24000 yen ($220 at the time).  So yeah, you're right, he could've easily got that much electricity over the year, especially if we don't even know what he was doing with it.

/I like to rush into things without thinking.
 
2014-05-03 08:27:22 AM  
So, someone help me with my confusion here. The Owner is away performing his military duties for xxx amount of time....one year....two years, whatever. He comes back and discovers squatter dude has broken in, changed the locks and taken up residence, claiming the place is his. What's the difference between that, and Joe Blow gets up, goes to work and comes home at the end of the day to find someone has broken in changed the locks and taken up residence? The length of time involved? I wouldn't think so. If the bills and expenses for the property are being paid by the original owner, the property could hardly be called abandoned. I would think that charges for criminal trespass and breaking and entering would apply at the very least. If any property in or around the house is discovered to be missing or broken, then criminal charges for that should be applied also. (I guess that would be harder to prosecute because of the "can't prove the squatter stole or broke anything" line of thinking)
 
2014-05-03 08:49:01 AM  
I prefer the "Squatter? What squatter? all I have back there is a fat alligator" method.
 
2014-05-03 08:53:16 AM  

Jim_Callahan: That seems a bit of a risky crime to pick given that the guy is probably armed and if you're farking around in his house he can pretty much shoot you no questions asked.


"What squatter?  Did I say that I found a squatter?  My mistake, all I found was this freshly filled hole in the backyard."
 
2014-05-03 08:53:38 AM  

phrawgh: I meant, where are these guys?
[img.fark.net image 599x520]


The self righteous Americans that want to kill other Americans that want them to pay their damn bills? In jail I hope.
 
2014-05-03 09:54:46 AM  

Bslim: phrawgh: I meant, where are these guys?
[img.fark.net image 599x520]

I see tits on that guy. Now I'm feeling weird and confused..


Bro, do you even lift?
 
2014-05-03 10:23:25 AM  

Bhags: So, someone help me with my confusion here. The Owner is away performing his military duties for xxx amount of time....one year....two years, whatever. He comes back and discovers squatter dude has broken in, changed the locks and taken up residence, claiming the place is his. What's the difference between that, and Joe Blow gets up, goes to work and comes home at the end of the day to find someone has broken in changed the locks and taken up residence? The length of time involved? I wouldn't think so. If the bills and expenses for the property are being paid by the original owner, the property could hardly be called abandoned. I would think that charges for criminal trespass and breaking and entering would apply at the very least. If any property in or around the house is discovered to be missing or broken, then criminal charges for that should be applied also. (I guess that would be harder to prosecute because of the "can't prove the squatter stole or broke anything" line of thinking)


Former 911 operator here, and we had to tell people this quite often when they called in and wanted the police to remove a friend or family member who'd overstayed their welcome... In Florida, you have to go through the entire legal eviction process to remove anyone who's 'established residency' in a home. Usually people are considered a resident of your home after a stay of 30 days, or something as simple as having their mail sent to your address.

So, these people would call in and want their 'visitor' removed, and believe me, I felt totally ridiculous telling them that they had to go to court and spend hundreds of dollars to file eviction to get the person out- despite the fact that said person doesn't have a lease or really any right to that home. Screwed up law, but then again, this is Florida.
 
2014-05-03 10:51:45 AM  

Kfer00: So, these people would call in and want their 'visitor' removed, and believe me, I felt totally ridiculous telling them that they had to go to court and spend hundreds of dollars to file eviction to get the person out- despite the fact that said person doesn't have a lease or really any right to that home. Screwed up law, but then again, this is Florida.


Good to know.  If I ever need to get a squatter out, I'll call and say they assaulted me and threatened to kill me.  Soon as they're in custody, change the locks if they somehow had a key.
Two can play dirty.
 
2014-05-03 11:14:18 AM  
This creepy little skeever is downright FANATICAL on being a creepy little skeever.

Where's Zimmerman when you REALLY need him??
 
2014-05-03 11:42:09 AM  
The owner being a soldier is relevant somehow.
 
2014-05-03 11:47:21 AM  

Kfer00: Bhags: So, someone help me with my confusion here. The Owner is away performing his military duties for xxx amount of time....one year....two years, whatever. He comes back and discovers squatter dude has broken in, changed the locks and taken up residence, claiming the place is his. What's the difference between that, and Joe Blow gets up, goes to work and comes home at the end of the day to find someone has broken in changed the locks and taken up residence? The length of time involved? I wouldn't think so. If the bills and expenses for the property are being paid by the original owner, the property could hardly be called abandoned. I would think that charges for criminal trespass and breaking and entering would apply at the very least. If any property in or around the house is discovered to be missing or broken, then criminal charges for that should be applied also. (I guess that would be harder to prosecute because of the "can't prove the squatter stole or broke anything" line of thinking)

Former 911 operator here, and we had to tell people this quite often when they called in and wanted the police to remove a friend or family member who'd overstayed their welcome... In Florida, you have to go through the entire legal eviction process to remove anyone who's 'established residency' in a home. Usually people are considered a resident of your home after a stay of 30 days, or something as simple as having their mail sent to your address.

So, these people would call in and want their 'visitor' removed, and believe me, I felt totally ridiculous telling them that they had to go to court and spend hundreds of dollars to file eviction to get the person out- despite the fact that said person doesn't have a lease or really any right to that home. Screwed up law, but then again, this is Florida.


Yeah the laws are messed up. Federal law currently still gives tenants a ton of rights in foreclosure. If they have a lease and the new owner isn't planning on living in the home then the new owner has to honor the lease.

So what is going on now is that if they don't have a lease or even if it has expired they are disputing an eviction after the 90 days they get for free. Delay state court eviction, file a federal case, get the state judge to dismiss the eviction due to the federal law, get their federal case dismissed and force the new owners to refile the eviction.
 
2014-05-03 11:55:42 AM  
Squatting laws were a good thing, a long time ago. Back, in 1860, when the railroads had land rights for 20 ish acres to either side of the railway line.

They even have some application today; if you build a shed on the edge of your property and then discover 29 years later that it was really on your neighbor's land; you aren't screwed.
 
2014-05-03 12:43:11 PM  

dready zim: nytmare: Didn't change the locks while the squatters were away? Whose fault is that.

Just because the map does not say "here be dragons" anymore does not mean there are no dragons there anymore...

There are no rules. There is a section of humanity that have deluded themselves to think there are but there are not.

Live in your home or someone will be living there and you may not like that.


i521.photobucket.com

That monologue pretty much hooked me on the show.
I can only imagine the kind of brass ones it would take to do something like that.
 
2014-05-03 01:56:15 PM  

logieal: dready zim: nytmare: Didn't change the locks while the squatters were away? Whose fault is that.

Just because the map does not say "here be dragons" anymore does not mean there are no dragons there anymore...

There are no rules. There is a section of humanity that have deluded themselves to think there are but there are not.

Live in your home or someone will be living there and you may not like that.

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That monologue pretty much hooked me on the show.
I can only imagine the kind of brass ones it would take to do something like that.


I was already hooked and that sealed it
 
2014-05-03 02:04:02 PM  
This is florida, I am surprised this squatter hasn't ended up dead in an Orange field by now.
 
2014-05-03 02:05:26 PM  

Begoggle: The owner being a soldier is relevant somehow.


It is in the sense that the squatters illegally moved in while he was deployed.
 
2014-05-03 02:45:49 PM  
My Dad used to say, "the Grease rises to the top with the Cream".

He meant that sometimes people figure out how to take advantage of the system and get ahead just like some one that worked their ass off.

Does it mean they are smarter? No.

It means we need to fix the system.
 
2014-05-03 03:12:24 PM  

fusillade762: Then, Duke Energy discovered the squatters had enjoyed more than free rent.

Duke sucks.


As do their coeds . . .
 
2014-05-03 04:18:56 PM  

dready zim:
Just because the map does not say "here be dragons" anymore does not mean there are no dragons there anymore...

There are no rules. There is a section of humanity that have deluded themselves to think there are but there are not.

Live in your home or someone will be living there and you may not like that.


The only thing that has made humanity anything more than just another animal is that very delusion, that by following rules we can work together to accomplish more than any of us could accomplish on our own. Including making TV shows that are watched by millions and even believed by thousands.

/the rules are imaginary
//that does not make them invalid
///it only means they operate differently from the rules of nature
 
2014-05-03 08:31:57 PM  

Begoggle: The owner being a soldier is relevant somehow.


When you are deployed or transferred all sorts of "under duress" laws apply.  There is also the bit about he knows how to kill, has reason to kill, buddies that will help him kill and everybody knows how to shut up afterwards.  The squatter remains alive only by the whims of the home owner.

Personally I'd have had him removed the first day with nobody the wiser except the alligators.  But that's because I hold the value of life of goblins to be lower than lawyers.
 
2014-05-03 09:07:29 PM  
I keep hearing these stories and wondering why nobody ends up dead.

I know in a lot of states everyone believes in criminal rights and doesn't give a flying crap about the victim, but here in Texas, shooting an intruder who is trying to steal your house isn't going to put you in jail.  There is no way you're going to get 12 Texans on a jury to say "Yeah, that homeowner is a threat, we need to lock him up".

Tell the cops.  If the cops don't do the job, arm yourself, tell the guy to leave.  If he doesn't leave right away, immediately, shoot him.

I can see where someone could take over a house that has sat empty for years, nobody is paying taxes, nobody is doing upkeep, and he takes it over, starts doing all the normal maintenance/taxpaying/etc, and eventually it's his house.

But if the homeowner shows up shortly after you move in, and you don't leave, I can't see how there is any argument about whether it's legal.  If the house wasn't empty/neglected/behind on taxes when you move in, I can't see any reason you shouldn't be immediately arrested when the homeowner reports you.  And I can't imagine me just letting the asshole have my house.
 
2014-05-03 11:33:41 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Personally I'd have had him removed the first day with nobody the wiser except the alligators


And they say the ghost of Lucius Clay gets up and he walks around.
 
2014-05-04 01:32:27 AM  
Who's gonna respond to the "Zimmerman" signal?
 
2014-05-04 03:06:19 AM  
What a lame solider. What a disgrace.  Please no more updates unless that "soldier" sacks up and kicks that vermin to the curb.

It's the cops fault anyway. They made an official note of the incident when they washed their hands off it, forcing him to go to the court.

No ITG, but there's no way I'd "play nice" with home invaders/thieves like this pathetic soldier guy.
 
2014-05-04 03:17:48 AM  
Also, as long as a house is safe and a property is not in some kind of violation or is in dire need of correcting, no one else but the homeowner has any right to live there.

Just because the owner is away doesn't make it all right for some sleazefark to steal it, no matter the time frame.   That's right, no matter the time frame. Fark squatters.
 
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