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2014-05-03 12:05:37 AM
Jerry Seinfeld died of an overdose?!?
 
2014-05-03 12:15:53 AM

fusillade762: Jerry Seinfeld died of an overdose?!?


"Not that there's anything wrong with that."
therecoveringpolitician.com
 
2014-05-03 12:25:55 AM
What is it with people and heroin. Living in the the limelight, the universal dream, for those who wish......
 
2014-05-03 12:27:40 AM
"And it's not even real heroin.  Anne Frank, now there was a real heroine.  Deaf and blind and still tries to fly across the Pacific Ocean..."
 
2014-05-03 12:36:08 AM
Two reasons.

Heroin is a hell of a drug

Fatal Heroin addictions are super expensive.
 
2014-05-03 12:36:14 AM
Heroin, be the death of me
Heroin, it's my wife and it's my life
Because a mainline into my vein
Leads to a center in my head
And then I'm better off than dead
 
2014-05-03 12:37:38 AM
... They can afford it?
 
2014-05-03 12:38:50 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Heroin, be the death of me
Heroin, it's my wife and it's my life
Because a mainline into my vein
Leads to a center in my head
And then I'm better off than dead



I made a choice deep inside
heroin or suicide?
sickness praised in times of need
we waste away from hands of greed
Jesus nailed to wooded T's
cannot compete with my disease
humanity the weak condition my soul is sick from my decision
 
2014-05-03 12:43:53 AM
Rozotorical:

Heroin is a hell of a drug

This bears repeating, and I've heard oxy is like heroin on steroids. The heroin I know about, the oxy not so much.
 
2014-05-03 12:45:55 AM
I was going to try snorting some h once.  The mardi gras after hurrican katrina.  I was 35 years old and at a house party.

One of my best friends in life was there.  He said to me"don't, because you will fall in love with it, and then you and I both can sit in line at the methadone client together."

I never knew he did it.

He told me he went through a bad break up.  And a guy told him him a little h would take the edge off.  It did, for two years.

As pro drug as I am, his statement resonated with me.
 
2014-05-03 12:51:06 AM

theflatline: I was going to try snorting some h once.  The mardi gras after hurrican katrina.  I was 35 years old and at a house party.

One of my best friends in life was there.  He said to me"don't, because you will fall in love with it, and then you and I both can sit in line at the methadone client together."

I never knew he did it.

He told me he went through a bad break up.  And a guy told him him a little h would take the edge off.  It did, for two years.

As pro drug as I am, his statement resonated with me.


Yeah, wait till your in your 80's then pick up the habit. It is worth the wait, not the addiction.
 
2014-05-03 12:54:51 AM
Heroin, one of my favorite songs.
 
2014-05-03 01:03:06 AM
I'm guessing the dealers target celebrities more than the general population because there's money to be had. Besides, if we've learned anything from 80s movies, they're hardcore:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mws8-dFTNks (NSFW language)
 
2014-05-03 01:07:03 AM
Heroin, Aquarian, a nice pine box to bury in.
 
2014-05-03 01:07:50 AM
Why do people feel the need to 'chase the Dragon's anyway? Why not just stick with alcohol or weed if you need to zone out? Everyone makes bad decisions, but this is one I really struggle feeling much empathy for.
 
2014-05-03 01:13:22 AM
What about Heroine?
 
2014-05-03 01:13:27 AM
Russell Brand, sober for 11 years, wrote a column in an effort to help others overcome their addictions: "The mentality and behaviour of drug addicts and alcoholics is wholly irrational until you understand that they are completely powerless over their addiction,'' he wrote.

Bullshiat. I quit cigarettes in 2000, and I could kick caffene and booze too if I wanted to badly enough to go to the trouble. I just don't: I like it, it makes me feel alive.

That's what y'all should understand: my "mentality and behaviour" is wholly rational once you understand that my drugs of choice are two of the very few things in life I get to enjoy. I quit smoking because I was tired of developing emphysema on top of almost contant bronchitis and daily asthma attacks; coffee and booze simply don't interfere with my daily tasks and responsibilities (e.g., I don't drive now and never had kids), so there's no pressing "counterindication."

The reason I don't do heroin is I can't afford it; indeed few junkies can. And there's no way I'm going to be stealing anybody's lawnmower to finance a bad frigging habit. That's for idiots. But yeah, if I could count on a steady and easy supply of pharmaceutical morphine without having to go to any lengths I'm not already doing you can bet I'd give it a go.

Fear is the mind-killer.
 
2014-05-03 01:16:26 AM
 
2014-05-03 01:24:05 AM
The One True TheDavid:

The reason I don't do heroin is I can't afford it; indeed few junkies can. And there's no way I'm going to be stealing anybody's lawnmower to finance a bad frigging habit. That's for idiots. But yeah, if I could count on a steady and easy supply of pharmaceutical morphine without having to go to any lengths I'm not already doing you can bet I'd give it a go.

Fear is the mind-killer.


You're a farking idiot and farking asshole.

So I guess all of those dead celebrities the article mentioned could have kicked the horse habit too? They certainly could afford it, but it killed them.

farking idiot and farking asshole.
 
2014-05-03 01:24:13 AM
Peaches Geldof was an A list celeb? News to me.

After seeing one of my friends OD and die at 18 from it, and having to simply just sever ties with several friends over the actions their addiction caused (violence, pleading for money, screaming and yelling at me when I wouldn't give them money, etc.), I'd NEVER EVER EVER even consider doing that shiat. Bigger question is why people do it regardless of all the horror stories involved. Long term heroin addicts, the ones who actually do survive a long term run with it, aren't exactly the most spritely or dignified people on earth.
 
2014-05-03 01:24:38 AM

The One True TheDavid: Russell Brand, sober for 11 years, wrote a column in an effort to help others overcome their addictions: "The mentality and behaviour of drug addicts and alcoholics is wholly irrational until you understand that they are completely powerless over their addiction,'' he wrote.

Bullshiat. I quit cigarettes in 2000, and I could kick caffene and booze too if I wanted to badly enough to go to the trouble. I just don't: I like it, it makes me feel alive.

That's what y'all should understand: my "mentality and behaviour" is wholly rational once you understand that my drugs of choice are two of the very few things in life I get to enjoy. I quit smoking because I was tired of developing emphysema on top of almost contant bronchitis and daily asthma attacks; coffee and booze simply don't interfere with my daily tasks and responsibilities (e.g., I don't drive now and never had kids), so there's no pressing "counterindication."

The reason I don't do heroin is I can't afford it; indeed few junkies can. And there's no way I'm going to be stealing anybody's lawnmower to finance a bad frigging habit. That's for idiots. But yeah, if I could count on a steady and easy supply of pharmaceutical morphine without having to go to any lengths I'm not already doing you can bet I'd give it a go.

Fear is the mind-killer.


 I would personally say quitting smoking is a piece of cake, to compare that to quitting Heroin, well I would compare the difference to wrestling a house cat compared to wrestling a Tiger.


There are addictions and then there are ADDICTIONS
 
2014-05-03 01:32:01 AM

MFAWG: Rozotorical:

Heroin is a hell of a drug

This bears repeating, and I've heard oxy is like heroin on steroids. The heroin I know about, the oxy not so much.


I've done both (snorted). I liked oxy better. Though damned if it didn't make it ridiculously hard to pee.
 
2014-05-03 01:34:56 AM
 
2014-05-03 01:40:03 AM

PreMortem: What is it with people and heroin. Living in the the limelight, the universal dream, for those who wish......


This is Fark.  We don't put aside our alienation for anything.
 
2014-05-03 01:43:42 AM

MFAWG: Rozotorical:

Heroin is a hell of a drug

This bears repeating, and I've heard oxy is like heroin on steroids. The heroin I know about, the oxy not so much.


Thank the fark Christ opiates make me sick.  As someone who has experimented with multiple drugs I can say I'm glad that that doesn't do it for me.  Vicodin, Percocets, Oxy's, I can turn down because I know what it does to me.  Makes me puke.  And if I want to do that I'll just read the Fark 'politics' tab lol.

/used to be an upper kid
//DMT changed my life
///Haven't used in a while but don't have a superiority complex about, you wanna get high, get high. Just don't be a dick about it. Whatever your poison.
 
2014-05-03 01:46:31 AM

Chariset: PreMortem: What is it with people and heroin. Living in the the limelight, the universal dream, for those who wish......

This is Fark.  We don't put aside our alienation for anything.


In this case, they're better off without certain snakes and arrows.
 
2014-05-03 01:55:59 AM
It feels farking good and they can afford it.
 
2014-05-03 02:08:19 AM
Phil Clinton:

DMT changed my life

DMT (from what I hear) and salvia divinorum are INCREDIBLY next level... Both seem to take the experiencer to other dimensions of reality. I had a few out of body experiences on salvia... Amazing stuff, but incredibly frightening and ego-shattering. Both 'highs' seem to be about the same in time duration - 5 to 15 minutes...

It is sad DMT is so hard to come by... A lot of people say it changes their perspective completely on how they view the Universe. Salvia certainly did for me, although I was already having 'psychic' experiences before I tried it the first time. Nothing can really prepare you for the experience of it, not matter what you've already experienced beforehand.

I still have some salvia stored away for about 2 years now... It's too intense... Would love to get my hands on DMT at some point. After that, there really isn't much more to experience.
 
2014-05-03 02:12:56 AM
Why do heroin, which can kill you, when you can smoke high-potency cannabis indica? That's my take on it. I tried it once (black tar - smoking)... It made me feel itchy and zoned me out and made me really tired.

Indica in an ice bong is a much higher quality buzz - it relaxes the mind and body, and it doesn't kill you.
 
2014-05-03 02:14:21 AM
I tried it and I hated it. It made me itchy and nauseous. Heroin, morphine, pain pills- all the same.
Thank god!
 
2014-05-03 02:17:12 AM
I guess I am spoiled living in Cali. Cannabis is really easy to come by here. Other parts of the country maybe not so much... I live literally 2 doors down from a dispensary - pretty damn cool.

On another note - I see all walks of life go into that dispensary: young couples, athletes, soccer moms, professionals, homeless, 'stoners', average joes... Pretty much every type of person you can think of smokes weed. It's time to legalize it. We shouldn't be making criminals out of responsible, tax-paying adults and wasting money on prisons...
 
2014-05-03 02:18:54 AM
I've never been high or drunk; Not once in my entire life. I have no interest in doing so. I'm in my mid-40s now, so I don't think I'm going to change my mind at this point.

It's not just about money. All money does is changes the TYPE of drugs you can afford. No, it's about willpower and making a conscious decision to NOT fark with your senses and your brain.

It also helps if you aren't already weak-willed and fundamentally flawed, and then surround yourself with dick-riding enablers.
 
2014-05-03 02:30:05 AM

OOBE Juan Kenobi: Phil Clinton:

DMT changed my life

DMT (from what I hear) and salvia divinorum are INCREDIBLY next level... Both seem to take the experiencer to other dimensions of reality. I had a few out of body experiences on salvia... Amazing stuff, but incredibly frightening and ego-shattering. Both 'highs' seem to be about the same in time duration - 5 to 15 minutes...

It is sad DMT is so hard to come by... A lot of people say it changes their perspective completely on how they view the Universe. Salvia certainly did for me, although I was already having 'psychic' experiences before I tried it the first time. Nothing can really prepare you for the experience of it, not matter what you've already experienced beforehand.

I still have some salvia stored away for about 2 years now... It's too intense... Would love to get my hands on DMT at some point. After that, there really isn't much more to experience.



The slashie that said 'used to be an upper kid' is summed up by that statement.  I stopped doing everything once I knew I was harming me and my potential as a human being. I haven't used since I did DMT.  And once you do DMT you don't even care about doing DMT again.  You realize all mind altering substances are no way to cope through life.  It's an experience that cannot be replicated but is one that I feel has made me more cognizant and appreciative of what I have.  I understand that not everyone has the same outlook on drugs.  But I can say with a full confidence that I would be a different person for the worse if I hadn't been introduced to it.
 
2014-05-03 02:31:02 AM

OOBE Juan Kenobi: I guess I am spoiled living in Cali. Cannabis is really easy to come by here. Other parts of the country maybe not so much... I live literally 2 doors down from a dispensary - pretty damn cool.

On another note - I see all walks of life go into that dispensary: young couples, athletes, soccer moms, professionals, homeless, 'stoners', average joes... Pretty much every type of person you can think of smokes weed. It's time to legalize it. We shouldn't be making criminals out of responsible, tax-paying adults and wasting money on prisons...



Yeah yeah. We've heard it all before. legalize it. 420. smoke weed every day. We get it. We've heard all the argument and slogans for about 50 years now. Whatever, dude. Young couples, athletes, soccer moms, professionals, homeless, and average joes also become alcoholics. `Doesn't mean it's a good thing.

Look, I'm all for legalization... Especially if it means all the stoners finally have nothing left to talk about anymore and it frees up prison cells for real criminals. I don't care  if you blaze up and get wasted at home. It doesn't matter to me one bit. If that's what you want to do with your life, then I'm fine with you not getting sent to jail for it. Stay out of the driver's seat, don't perform surgery or operate machinery, and keep that nasty stink out of public places where other people would have to smell it, and we're cool.

But for goodness' sake, please stop babbling on and on about it. WE GET IT. Jesus, you don't hear cocaine or heroin users going on and on about their habit every time they interact with someone.

Potheads are like fundamentalist Christians-- They just can't stop preaching and proselytizing about their god of choice. Even the farking Hare Krishnas had the decency to only bug people in airports.
 
2014-05-03 02:31:34 AM
Interesting links on cannabis oil healing for cancer and epilepsy:

http://jeffreydachmd.com/.../cannabis-oil-brain-tumor.../

http://metrotimes.com/.../what-if-cannabis-oil-cured...

http://www.cnn.com/.../charlotte-child-medical-marijuana/
 
2014-05-03 02:33:05 AM
 
2014-05-03 02:37:54 AM

Nix Nightbird: I've never been high or drunk; Not once in my entire life. I have no interest in doing so. I'm in my mid-40s now, so I don't think I'm going to change my mind at this point.

It's not just about money. All money does is changes the TYPE of drugs you can afford. No, it's about willpower and making a conscious decision to NOT fark with your senses and your brain.

It also helps if you aren't already weak-willed and fundamentally flawed, and then surround yourself with dick-riding enablers.


Same here. Never had a drink, though until @2003 I was taking in a lot of second-hand smoke (and "smoke")  due to the work I was doing. I chose this path because I am weak-willed and fundamentally flawed. Still looking for the dick-riders.
 
2014-05-03 02:47:25 AM
well I think celebs can't stay away from heroin because a lot of people can't. I'm clean living, when my father died of cancer we had a big basket of oxy, fentanyl and a few other heavy pain killers left over. It was right there in front of me, and I was going through a hard time but I knew it was a bad idea. But 90% of heroin users are casual users, if I had a mate taking from that basket and was absolutely fine maybe I too would have been convinced that it was harmless, besides heroin (medical grade) has only two real side affects constipation and addiction (that second one is a bigger pain in the butt), it's the street stuff that closes up your veins and whatnot. I think it also comes down to how you view yourself. If you want to be a party guy, you're gonna party hard. God damned if I know why people do it. But they do, and I think the Swiss government have the right idea about the free heroin program.

But for goodness' sake, please stop babbling on and on about it. WE GET IT. Jesus, you don't hear cocaine or heroin users going on and on about their habit every time they interact with someone.


William S Burroughs in his story about the pimp in Naked Lunch said that teaheads are very puritanical when it comes to heroin.

I love Burroughs, he's a bad man, but I love his work
 
2014-05-03 03:04:15 AM

OOBE Juan Kenobi: Interesting links on cannabis oil healing for cancer and epilepsy:

http://jeffreydachmd.com/.../cannabis-oil-brain-tumor.../

http://metrotimes.com/.../what-if-cannabis-oil-cured...

http://www.cnn.com/.../charlotte-child-medical-marijuana/


All this is bullshiat. If you have cancer, doctors are aggressive and god damn do they give you strong drugs. I work in a cancer research centre and there are a bunch of treatments that look good but fail when they get to clinical trials. Trials which cost tens to hundreds of millions of dollars because they are controlled and involve lots of people all on the same medication. That girl was on a bunch of meds, which worked, which didn't, and was she in the very small group who respond very well to treatment? Without replication, one can't say.
 
2014-05-03 03:21:22 AM
If I could drop one piece of advice to anyone listening, it's to stay the hell away from heroin.

You can bounce back unscathed from a lot of bad addictions, but a heroin itch is staying with you for life. Whatever spark that used to be behind your eyes is leaving, and it isn't coming back. Every hour, minute, and second of your remaining life is spent either trying to acquire more, or avoid it. Those problems you were trying to forget by shooting up? Once you are "clean" you not only have to deal with them, but also the ever-present knowledge that you can make them go away again with just one more fix. You walk around knowing that you will never again feel as good as you did the last time you shot up, until the next time you shoot up. Other addictions are the monkey on your back. This one, it's the elephant in your face. When you aren't high, normal life feels like a depression, actual depression feels like hell.

Again, stay the hell away from heroin.
 
2014-05-03 03:28:07 AM

Nix Nightbird: I've never been high or drunk; Not once in my entire life. I have no interest in doing so.


Nix Nightbird: Look, I'm all for legalization... I don't care

For someone with no personal knowledge to contribute or care for the subject you sure spend a lot of time in drug-related threads.

Nix Nightbird: Potheads are like fundamentalist ChristiansThe Founding Fathers-- They just can't stop preaching and proselytizing about their god of choice personal liberty.


FTFY. And again, for someone who doesn't care you sure seem to have something up your ass when it comes to other people exercising their personal liberty.
 
2014-05-03 03:49:05 AM

nigeman: OOBE Juan Kenobi: Interesting links on cannabis oil healing for cancer and epilepsy:

http://jeffreydachmd.com/.../cannabis-oil-brain-tumor.../

http://metrotimes.com/.../what-if-cannabis-oil-cured...

http://www.cnn.com/.../charlotte-child-medical-marijuana/

All this is bullshiat. If you have cancer, doctors are aggressive and god damn do they give you strong drugs. I work in a cancer research centre and there are a bunch of treatments that look good but fail when they get to clinical trials. Trials which cost tens to hundreds of millions of dollars because they are controlled and involve lots of people all on the same medication. That girl was on a bunch of meds, which worked, which didn't, and was she in the very small group who respond very well to treatment? Without replication, one can't say.


Try to separate facts from emotion... Sorry to hear about your dad dying from it...

It's too early to say it's all 'bullshiat', or the flip side, that cannabis oil outright cures cancer. The results, so far, look promising, however. Lab tests have shown that cannabis oil can kill cancer cells. The links I posted earlier didn't work, but it is a fact that cannabis oil almost completely stops epilepsy. Look up the case of Charlotte Figi, and the other families moving to Colorado to obtain medical cannabis. It's pretty amazing, actually. Also, I am inclined to believe Alysa Erwin's story about stopping chemo, using cannabis oil, and having her cancer go into full remission. Since the cancer was incurable, it was extremely unlikely it was just a fluke, especially considering the other data that is beginning to surface on the subject. Again - too early to tell, but incredibly promising.


http://jeffreydachmd.com/2014/04/cannabis-oil-brain-tumor-remission- je ffrey-dach-md/

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/10/health/medical-marijuana-refugees/
 
2014-05-03 03:54:11 AM
It's their muse, and what brings them to our attention in the first place.

Without it, you'd have never heard of him or her.
 
2014-05-03 03:57:18 AM
Someone should introduce the Biebs to Aunt Hazel.
 
2014-05-03 03:59:41 AM

Nix Nightbird: OOBE Juan Kenobi: I guess I am spoiled living in Cali. Cannabis is really easy to come by here. Other parts of the country maybe not so much... I live literally 2 doors down from a dispensary - pretty damn cool.

On another note - I see all walks of life go into that dispensary: young couples, athletes, soccer moms, professionals, homeless, 'stoners', average joes... Pretty much every type of person you can think of smokes weed. It's time to legalize it. We shouldn't be making criminals out of responsible, tax-paying adults and wasting money on prisons...


Yeah yeah. We've heard it all before. legalize it. 420. smoke weed every day. We get it. We've heard all the argument and slogans for about 50 years now. Whatever, dude. Young couples, athletes, soccer moms, professionals, homeless, and average joes also become alcoholics. `Doesn't mean it's a good thing.

Look, I'm all for legalization... Especially if it means all the stoners finally have nothing left to talk about anymore and it frees up prison cells for real criminals. I don't care  if you blaze up and get wasted at home. It doesn't matter to me one bit. If that's what you want to do with your life, then I'm fine with you not getting sent to jail for it. Stay out of the driver's seat, don't perform surgery or operate machinery, and keep that nasty stink out of public places where other people would have to smell it, and we're cool.

But for goodness' sake, please stop babbling on and on about it. WE GET IT. Jesus, you don't hear cocaine or heroin users going on and on about their habit every time they interact with someone.

Potheads are like fundamentalist Christians-- They just can't stop preaching and proselytizing about their god of choice. Even the farking Hare Krishnas had the decency to only bug people in airports.


I think cannabis users are just tired of being made out as criminals. This is the one drug that is still illegal that doesn't cause death, unlike alcohol or tobacco use. Plus, the US government has a patent on the medical use of cannabis.

You certainly are judgmental of others, btw. There are many high-functioning individuals in society that have taken drugs or alcohol and get along just fine. Being angry about your life and taking it out on others on the internet is a sad way to be, friend. If you don't like drugs and alcohol, then don't focus on them. Why would you even be in a thread discussing them? Don't you have anything better to do with your time?

Believe it or not, some people are responsible users of cannabis, just like there are responsible users of alcohol. Not everyone that drinks drives on it or goes to work on it. Same with cannabis.

I'm sorry you feel so bad and have so much anger inside you. Feel better, OK?
 
2014-05-03 04:00:56 AM

Phil Clinton: OOBE Juan Kenobi: Phil Clinton:

DMT changed my life

DMT (from what I hear) and salvia divinorum are INCREDIBLY next level... Both seem to take the experiencer to other dimensions of reality. I had a few out of body experiences on salvia... Amazing stuff, but incredibly frightening and ego-shattering. Both 'highs' seem to be about the same in time duration - 5 to 15 minutes...

It is sad DMT is so hard to come by... A lot of people say it changes their perspective completely on how they view the Universe. Salvia certainly did for me, although I was already having 'psychic' experiences before I tried it the first time. Nothing can really prepare you for the experience of it, not matter what you've already experienced beforehand.

I still have some salvia stored away for about 2 years now... It's too intense... Would love to get my hands on DMT at some point. After that, there really isn't much more to experience.


The slashie that said 'used to be an upper kid' is summed up by that statement.  I stopped doing everything once I knew I was harming me and my potential as a human being. I haven't used since I did DMT.  And once you do DMT you don't even care about doing DMT again.  You realize all mind altering substances are no way to cope through life.  It's an experience that cannot be replicated but is one that I feel has made me more cognizant and appreciative of what I have.  I understand that not everyone has the same outlook on drugs.  But I can say with a full confidence that I would be a different person for the worse if I hadn't been introduced to it.


Good for you. Whatever floats your boat...
 
2014-05-03 04:08:48 AM
Nix Nightbird:

No, it's about willpower and making a conscious decision to NOT fark with your senses and your brain.

It also helps if you aren't already weak-willed and fundamentally flawed, and then surround yourself with dick-riding enablers.


There are people much more intelligent and successful than you are that have taken drugs. How do you like them apples?

Also - being drug free doesn't necessarily mean that one will live a HAPPY or a long life, either...

Best of luck to you - do what makes you happy...
 
2014-05-03 04:14:02 AM

OOBE Juan Kenobi: I think cannabis users are just tired of being made out as criminals.


Oh, boo-hoo!

Let's all pity half the adult population.
 
2014-05-03 04:15:55 AM
Well, you can't understand a user's mind, but try, with your books and degrees. If you let yourself go and opened your mind I'll bet you'd be doing like me.  And it aint so bad.

And then you dies alone in a shiatty apartment.
 
2014-05-03 04:19:10 AM

TomD9938: OOBE Juan Kenobi: I think cannabis users are just tired of being made out as criminals.

Oh, boo-hoo!

Let's all pity half the adult population.


You would think the Federal government would want as many tax-paying laborers are possible... haha
 
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