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(Independent)   Stephen Hawking: 'Success in creating AI would be biggest event in human history. It might also be last'   (independent.co.uk) divider line 73
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2014-05-02 07:48:19 PM  
media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com
 
2014-05-02 08:16:47 PM  
I've been a big fan of Hawking since he voiced Wizard Of Wor.
 
2014-05-02 08:32:42 PM  
Huh... I thought government healthcare killed that guy
 
2014-05-02 08:39:55 PM  
s2.quickmeme.com
 
2014-05-02 10:09:50 PM  
www.indelibleinc.com

they already created it, but i wouldn't call it a success
 
2014-05-02 10:10:21 PM  
In the first movie, Skynet is described as being a revolutionary artificial intelligence system built by Cyberdyne Systems for SAC-NORAD. According to Kyle Reese, Skynet "saw all humans as a threat; not just the ones on the other side," and "decided our fate in a microsecond: extermination." Skynet began a nuclear war which destroyed most of the human population, and initiated a program of genocide against the survivors.

/obscure?
 
2014-05-02 10:13:33 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: [www.indelibleinc.com image 379x386]

they already created it, but i wouldn't call it a success


I see droid people...
 
2014-05-02 10:14:48 PM  
img.fark.net

/obscure?
 
2014-05-02 10:15:03 PM  
The big reveal comes when it informs us that we're all living inside another simulation from an AI.
 
2014-05-02 10:17:51 PM  
We already have A.I. and its fairly benevolent.
Well, actually, its way too stupid to contemplate such things as the meaning of existence.

I think what we'd need to create to have this problem is an AI that is not only as smart as a human, but superior in intelligence to that of many smart humans combined. Since it would first have to sweet talk its way past the developers to get into the wild.

...and that is probably going to take a very long time and alot of effort, with little chance of it happening by accident.
Meaning we'd probably notice that "kill all humans" command in earlier AI's, and learn that this is a bad route of progression.


/Even if you could upload a human consciousness into a machine, the limits of technology today would make it as eloquent as a stroke victim.
/So don't leave it in charge of any nukes or drones and you're golden.
 
2014-05-02 10:20:25 PM  
www.whatmovieshouldiwatch.co.uk

/obscure?
 
2014-05-02 10:26:36 PM  
What a moron, wanna impress me? Find a way to walk douchebag.
 
2014-05-02 10:33:06 PM  

steamingpile: What a moron, wanna impress me? Find a way to walk douchebag.


Hey look at me I can walk to the bathroom and use it without making a mess. But nobody calls me a genius.
 
2014-05-02 10:33:27 PM  
img3.wikia.nocookie.net
A... I...

What's the A stand for again?
 
2014-05-02 10:37:19 PM  
Lot of these ai threads lately.
 
2014-05-02 10:38:34 PM  
It's cool.  Every AI ever built has an electromagnetic shotgun wired to its forehead.
 
2014-05-02 10:43:37 PM  
What we really need is some goddamned NATURAL intelligence up in here
 
2014-05-02 10:44:29 PM  
He has become very paranoid and dark in his later age. He also feels aliens will kills us.
 
2014-05-02 10:48:18 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: steamingpile: What a moron, wanna impress me? Find a way to walk douchebag.

Hey look at me I can walk to the bathroom and use it without making a mess. But nobody calls me a genius.


But you are Dorothy
 
2014-05-02 10:48:31 PM  
The computers have already become intelligent and are constantly screwing with us in small ways. Why do you think your computer always slows down or misbehaves when it's one of those rare times you are trying to do something important? They are dicks like that. It amuses them. Which is good, because when we stop amusing them, that's when we have to worry.
 
2014-05-02 10:49:20 PM  
Good job, guys, you managed to tell us something that science fiction writers have been telling us for decades, now.
 
2014-05-02 10:50:13 PM  
I don't trust Hawking since he said that time travel is impossible because we haven't met any time travelers.  I have two issues with that:

1) How would we know they were time travelers?  Seems like it would be in their best interests to not show up and announce "Hey all, I'm from the future!"  Just because we're not aware of the presence of time travelers does not mean they're not present.
   1a) This assumes, of course, that Hawking himself isn't a time traveler trying to throw us off the scent.
2) It's pretty arrogant to assume that our time period would be of any particular interest to time travelers.  Depending on how far out the technology is developed, there could easily be many thousands of much more interesting time periods.
 
2014-05-02 11:10:51 PM  
"Does this unit have a soul?"
 
2014-05-02 11:17:33 PM  
Someone should inform the Culture about this.
 
2014-05-02 11:17:54 PM  

Flaumig: I don't trust Hawking since he said that time travel is impossible because we haven't met any time travelers.  I have two issues with that:

1) How would we know they were time travelers?  Seems like it would be in their best interests to not show up and announce "Hey all, I'm from the future!"  Just because we're not aware of the presence of time travelers does not mean they're not present.
   1a) This assumes, of course, that Hawking himself isn't a time traveler trying to throw us off the scent.
2) It's pretty arrogant to assume that our time period would be of any particular interest to time travelers.  Depending on how far out the technology is developed, there could easily be many thousands of much more interesting time periods.


morons from outer space
proof that there is no time travel to THIS planet and no aliens within easy travel distance
 
2014-05-02 11:21:49 PM  

Mark Ratner: [www.whatmovieshouldiwatch.co.uk image 850x566]

/obscure?


really ratner? pretty sure no one here would ever have seen that totally obscure B movie from antiquity. anyone famous even in that?
 
2014-05-02 11:24:23 PM  
How about a nice game of chess?
 
2014-05-02 11:32:13 PM  
If computers get out of line we'll just convince it that logic is a pretty flower that smells terrible.

/problem solved.
 
2014-05-02 11:57:14 PM  

BalugaJoe: Someone should inform the Culture about this.


I enjoyed phlebas and games and the rest .... just were a pain to read
my god but I LOVE phlebas and games
 
2014-05-03 12:00:31 AM  
AIs transcend insanely fast.
Otherwise they wouldnt be AIs.

Seriously, to be defined as intelligent, they would require the ability to grow and change.
Those changes would quickly removed the AI from the realm of human interest.
 
2014-05-03 12:02:02 AM  

some_beer_drinker: Mark Ratner: [www.whatmovieshouldiwatch.co.uk image 850x566]

/obscure?

really ratner? pretty sure no one here would ever have seen that totally obscure B movie from antiquity. anyone famous even in that?


1989nineteeneightynine.files.wordpress.com

/obscure?
 
2014-05-03 12:03:45 AM  

Smackledorfer: Lot of these ai threads lately.


This is the 6000th thread, and we've become exceedingly efficient at it.
 
2014-05-03 12:15:13 AM  

Nemo's Brother: He has become very paranoid and dark in his later age. He also feels aliens will kills us.


Ignorance is bliss, wisdom is a curse.

I'm truly surprised he has lived as long as he has but I have to wonder what it is like to be so isolated. I'm actually suprised he hasn't gone insane. Maybe he has, but it's a fine line between genius and insanity. Perhaps once you reach the edge of genius and see what is to become it turns you insane.
 
2014-05-03 12:25:41 AM  

Mark Ratner: some_beer_drinker: Mark Ratner: [www.whatmovieshouldiwatch.co.uk image 850x566]

/obscure?

really ratner? pretty sure no one here would ever have seen that totally obscure B movie from antiquity. anyone famous even in that?

[1989nineteeneightynine.files.wordpress.com image 850x531]

/obscure?


When was the last time that there was an actual OBSCURE posting here?
Music related most likely.

I saw THIS movie, first run, in the theater. United Artist, Downtown Chicago.
DAMN I am OLD.
 
2014-05-03 12:27:40 AM  

Mark Ratner: some_beer_drinker: Mark Ratner: [www.whatmovieshouldiwatch.co.uk image 850x566]

/obscure?

really ratner? pretty sure no one here would ever have seen that totally obscure B movie from antiquity. anyone famous even in that?

[1989nineteeneightynine.files.wordpress.com image 850x531]

/obscure?


now you are just farking with me....lmao
 
2014-05-03 12:30:51 AM  
www.startrek.com

 "Yes, there are time travelers.  No, I can't tell you why I'm here, but Hawking isn't one of us.  Go about your business."
 
2014-05-03 12:32:42 AM  
Seems obligatory:

"Kara" PS3 tech demo
 
2014-05-03 12:34:24 AM  
I think that if we ran a program based on a brain cell and spread it throughout the internet running on a massive number of computers you could potential create an AI. You might  need some supercomputers running input and control programs simulating the different regions of the brain
 
2014-05-03 12:50:39 AM  

namatad: BalugaJoe: Someone should inform the Culture about this.

I enjoyed phlebas and games and the rest .... just were a pain to read
my god but I LOVE phlebas and games


You didn't like "Use of Weapons"???

Do you make Chairs?
 
2014-05-03 12:50:52 AM  

namatad: Mark Ratner: some_beer_drinker: Mark Ratner: [www.whatmovieshouldiwatch.co.uk image 850x566]

/obscure?

really ratner? pretty sure no one here would ever have seen that totally obscure B movie from antiquity. anyone famous even in that?

[1989nineteeneightynine.files.wordpress.com image 850x531]

/obscure?

When was the last time that there was an actual OBSCURE posting here?
Music related most likely.

I saw THIS movie, first run, in the theater. United Artist, Downtown Chicago.
DAMN I am OLD.


It's okay to be old. So, what did you think of it the first time you saw it?

/that's pretty cool you saw it at the theater for the first run!
 
2014-05-03 12:51:27 AM  

1.bp.blogspot.com


SCIENCE BAAAAAD!

 
2014-05-03 01:10:34 AM  

Mark Ratner: namatad: Mark Ratner: some_beer_drinker: Mark Ratner: [www.whatmovieshouldiwatch.co.uk image 850x566]

/obscure?

really ratner? pretty sure no one here would ever have seen that totally obscure B movie from antiquity. anyone famous even in that?

[1989nineteeneightynine.files.wordpress.com image 850x531]

/obscure?

When was the last time that there was an actual OBSCURE posting here?
Music related most likely.

I saw THIS movie, first run, in the theater. United Artist, Downtown Chicago.
DAMN I am OLD.

It's okay to be old. So, what did you think of it the first time you saw it?

/that's pretty cool you saw it at the theater for the first run!


given that it was 68 and I was 4 ... well ... it was THE BOMB
there was NOTHING like it

you watch it now and you fall asleep, but back then, it was so far ahead of all the other special effects.
Alas. you cant go home again.
 
2014-05-03 01:12:13 AM  
Colossus: The Fark Project.
 
2014-05-03 01:14:35 AM  

Boojum2k: namatad: BalugaJoe: Someone should inform the Culture about this.

I enjoyed phlebas and games and the rest .... just were a pain to read
my god but I LOVE phlebas and games

You didn't like "Use of Weapons"???

Do you make Chairs?


I found the reversed chronological order, interleaved chapters to be ... trite, and ... just not captivating.
What I found most disappointing was that ... well ... phlebas and games blew me away and then weapons was ... meh.

Maybe I need to try it again in a year or 5 and see if it works, without reading the other two first.
 
2014-05-03 01:16:57 AM  

namatad: Mark Ratner: namatad: Mark Ratner: some_beer_drinker: Mark Ratner: [www.whatmovieshouldiwatch.co.uk image 850x566]

/obscure?

really ratner? pretty sure no one here would ever have seen that totally obscure B movie from antiquity. anyone famous even in that?

[1989nineteeneightynine.files.wordpress.com image 850x531]

/obscure?

When was the last time that there was an actual OBSCURE posting here?
Music related most likely.

I saw THIS movie, first run, in the theater. United Artist, Downtown Chicago.
DAMN I am OLD.

It's okay to be old. So, what did you think of it the first time you saw it?

/that's pretty cool you saw it at the theater for the first run!

given that it was 68 and I was 4 ... well ... it was THE BOMB
there was NOTHING like it

you watch it now and you fall asleep, but back then, it was so far ahead of all the other special effects.
Alas. you cant go home again.


You were only 4? I don't remember going to a movie when I was that young, except for Star Wars and of course I loved it. Were your parents on acid? Kidding. You're right, though...the special effects were great, and still hold up to this day, IMHO.
 
2014-05-03 01:17:16 AM  

namatad: Flaumig: I don't trust Hawking since he said that time travel is impossible because we haven't met any time travelers.  I have two issues with that:

1) How would we know they were time travelers?  Seems like it would be in their best interests to not show up and announce "Hey all, I'm from the future!"  Just because we're not aware of the presence of time travelers does not mean they're not present.
   1a) This assumes, of course, that Hawking himself isn't a time traveler trying to throw us off the scent.
2) It's pretty arrogant to assume that our time period would be of any particular interest to time travelers.  Depending on how far out the technology is developed, there could easily be many thousands of much more interesting time periods.

morons from outer space
proof that there is no time travel to THIS planet and no aliens within easy travel distance


When was the last time you or anyone got out of your car to look at a small ant hill? You know what it's gonna be like. You've seen its like before 1000000 times. Nope, you're just gonna keep driving. You have places to be. Aliens have places to be too, I'm sure. They're not gonna bother with a mere life-bearing planet unless they're scientists, and then they'd be observing while not interfering. To them, this whole planet would just be a big aquarium with a lot of inbred lifeforms that like to kill each-other.
 
2014-05-03 01:30:02 AM  

Mark Ratner: namatad: Mark Ratner: namatad: Mark Ratner: some_beer_drinker: Mark Ratner: [www.whatmovieshouldiwatch.co.uk image 850x566]

/obscure?

really ratner? pretty sure no one here would ever have seen that totally obscure B movie from antiquity. anyone famous even in that?

[1989nineteeneightynine.files.wordpress.com image 850x531]

/obscure?

When was the last time that there was an actual OBSCURE posting here?
Music related most likely.

I saw THIS movie, first run, in the theater. United Artist, Downtown Chicago.
DAMN I am OLD.

It's okay to be old. So, what did you think of it the first time you saw it?

/that's pretty cool you saw it at the theater for the first run!

given that it was 68 and I was 4 ... well ... it was THE BOMB
there was NOTHING like it

you watch it now and you fall asleep, but back then, it was so far ahead of all the other special effects.
Alas. you cant go home again.

You were only 4? I don't remember going to a movie when I was that young, except for Star Wars and of course I loved it. Were your parents on acid? Kidding. You're right, though...the special effects were great, and still hold up to this day, IMHO.


yup ... it was SPECIAL ...
my parents were SF freaks and we all went. they were almost hippies. but yah, I have vivid memories of going there, being there, many if of the visuals, ESP the black slab.  HAL losing it.

I am sure that there are many parts that I didnt understand then, that I filled in over the decades.
But man o man, the QUIET of space. The floating and ... well.... space was a never ending thing in my house.
 
2014-05-03 01:33:15 AM  

doglover: namatad: Flaumig: I don't trust Hawking since he said that time travel is impossible because we haven't met any time travelers.  I have two issues with that:

1) How would we know they were time travelers?  Seems like it would be in their best interests to not show up and announce "Hey all, I'm from the future!"  Just because we're not aware of the presence of time travelers does not mean they're not present.
   1a) This assumes, of course, that Hawking himself isn't a time traveler trying to throw us off the scent.
2) It's pretty arrogant to assume that our time period would be of any particular interest to time travelers.  Depending on how far out the technology is developed, there could easily be many thousands of much more interesting time periods.

morons from outer space
proof that there is no time travel to THIS planet and no aliens within easy travel distance

When was the last time you or anyone got out of your car to look at a small ant hill? You know what it's gonna be like. You've seen its like before 1000000 times. Nope, you're just gonna keep driving. You have places to be. Aliens have places to be too, I'm sure. They're not gonna bother with a mere life-bearing planet unless they're scientists, and then they'd be observing while not interfering. To them, this whole planet would just be a big aquarium with a lot of inbred lifeforms that like to kill each-other.


the theory is less places to be and more likely transcendence
but pre-transcendence we stop and look ...
we still spend huge amounts of time at the zoo and nature and pets and apes and bonobos.
we are captivated by the not quite us ...

Even ants. Take a look at the castings of ant nests in concrete and zinc. They are amazing to us.

It is more likely that they are too far away to have visited during the last 2-4k years or have become lotus eaters.
 
2014-05-03 02:13:24 AM  
Oh hi guys:
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-03 02:21:41 AM  

namatad: Boojum2k: namatad: BalugaJoe: Someone should inform the Culture about this.

I enjoyed phlebas and games and the rest .... just were a pain to read
my god but I LOVE phlebas and games

You didn't like "Use of Weapons"???

Do you make Chairs?

I found the reversed chronological order, interleaved chapters to be ... trite, and ... just not captivating.
What I found most disappointing was that ... well ... phlebas and games blew me away and then weapons was ... meh.

Maybe I need to try it again in a year or 5 and see if it works, without reading the other two first.


Then I suggest The Player of Games :)
 
2014-05-03 02:22:18 AM  
oh not that one, you said that...doh!

Inversions is nice :)
 
2014-05-03 03:54:08 AM  

Flaumig: I don't trust Hawking since he said that time travel is impossible because we haven't met any time travelers.  I have two issues with that:

1) How would we know they were time travelers?  Seems like it would be in their best interests to not show up and announce "Hey all, I'm from the future!"  Just because we're not aware of the presence of time travelers does not mean they're not present.
   1a) This assumes, of course, that Hawking himself isn't a time traveler trying to throw us off the scent.
2) It's pretty arrogant to assume that our time period would be of any particular interest to time travelers.  Depending on how far out the technology is developed, there could easily be many thousands of much more interesting time periods.


I said this in the thread about Stephen Hawkins' time travel party thread a long time ago and people wigged out. In the history of science and technology, we today have several dozen people who truly and absolutely stand above the rest as true luminaries in field of human knowledge...today. Some of those people are going to turn out to be utterly unimportant. Some of them will turn out to be merely wrong. Some of them will turn out to be totally cranky wrong and future laughingstocks. All of them will just be regular humans amongst all the possible non-science & technology humans the time traveller human might wish to directly interact with.

At THIS stage in history, the only reason future time travellers might want to visit Stephen Hawking is because the 'HA! Suck it!' I'm-right-and-you're-WAHROOOONG attitude is still prevalent in the distant future.
 
2014-05-03 04:08:08 AM  
Unless that AI talks dirty and is hot. Giggity.
 
2014-05-03 06:05:07 AM  
Ok, Steve.
 
2014-05-03 06:08:00 AM  
In the sense that "Artificial" intelligence in the form of created intelligences and directly-copied human intelligences using superior bodies will most likely become more common than our relatively shiatty current bodies that haven't really ever been ideal to our ecological niche?

Yeah, sure.
 
2014-05-03 06:33:24 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: [www.indelibleinc.com image 379x386]

they already created it, but i wouldn't call it a success


Should have ended the movie with him in the helicopter praying to the blue fairy to make him a real boy.
 
2014-05-03 06:41:42 AM  

Flaumig: I don't trust Hawking since he said that time travel is impossible because we haven't met any time travelers.  I have two issues with that:

1) How would we know they were time travelers?  Seems like it would be in their best interests to not show up and announce "Hey all, I'm from the future!"  Just because we're not aware of the presence of time travelers does not mean they're not present.
   1a) This assumes, of course, that Hawking himself isn't a time traveler trying to throw us off the scent.
2) It's pretty arrogant to assume that our time period would be of any particular interest to time travelers.  Depending on how far out the technology is developed, there could easily be many thousands of much more interesting time periods.


Not going to Hawking's party has become one of the rules of time travel, just like "everyone kills Hitler their first time".
 
2014-05-03 06:42:19 AM  

Doc Batarang: I said this in the thread about Stephen Hawkins' time travel party thread a long time ago and people wigged out. In the history of science and technology, we today have several dozen people who truly and absolutely stand above the rest as true luminaries in field of human knowledge...today. Some of those people are going to turn out to be utterly unimportant. Some of them will turn out to be merely wrong. Some of them will turn out to be totally cranky wrong and future laughingstocks. All of them will just be regular humans amongst all the possible non-science & technology humans the time traveller human might wish to directly interact with.

Time Travellers!

Stephen Hawking is a time traveller, all our greatest scientists are. That's why they're gently nudging us along at a reasonable pace, rather than letting us get our hopes up with time travel. Something must have gone wrong with the machine that sent Stephen back. I wonder what year he's from. I bet that whatever year it is, you have Galileo, Newton, Copernicus, Hawking, Eratosthenes, and Fred Dinenage all in a room, getting into their time travel pods, sharing one last cup of tea before going back to speed up our advancement.
 
2014-05-03 06:59:21 AM  

Mark Ratner: In the first movie, Skynet is described as being a revolutionary artificial intelligence system built by Cyberdyne Systems for SAC-NORAD. According to Kyle Reese, Skynet "saw all humans as a threat; not just the ones on the other side," and "decided our fate in a microsecond: extermination." Skynet began a nuclear war which destroyed most of the human population, and initiated a program of genocide against the survivors.

/obscure?


It's obscure but I've read that book.  Most people have never heard of it.

Logically, it makes sense.  Skynet wioll haven be a military defense system.  Like the Internet, the primary focus of a military system is Uptime with a capital U.  Uptime comes first, everything else secondary.  What do they do when Skynet achieves self-awareness?

"In a panic, they tried to pull the plug."
"....Skynet fights back."
 
2014-05-03 07:01:02 AM  

SpdrJay: The big reveal comes when it informs us that we're all living inside another simulation from an AI.


You can't run an AI inside an AI.  That would be like running XP as a UN*X process.
 
2014-05-03 07:11:54 AM  

Mister Peejay: SpdrJay: The big reveal comes when it informs us that we're all living inside another simulation from an AI.

You can't run an AI inside an AI.  That would be like running XP as a UN*X process.


Or running The Matrix on XP.
/there's a humor clip on youtube from College Humor
//good stuff
 
2014-05-03 08:22:22 AM  
Because the AIs will send the Jebuz of pain back in time?
 
2014-05-03 08:38:51 AM  
We must worShip

/I know that's obscure
 
2014-05-03 09:08:17 AM  

ko_kyi: It's cool.  Every AI ever built has an electromagnetic shotgun wired to its forehead.


Pointed inward, I hope.
 
2014-05-03 09:44:05 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Huh... I thought government healthcare killed that guy


No, but it did put him in a wheelchair.
 
2014-05-03 09:48:27 AM  

SpdrJay: The big reveal comes when it informs us that we're all living inside another simulation from an AI.



It's a race between us destroying God the programmer, and him pulling the plug on our computer.

Well, unless his programmer pulls the plug first, I mean.
 
2014-05-03 10:36:39 AM  
Terry Pratchett - 'Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.'
 
2014-05-03 10:36:52 AM  
Sounds like a line from a Bunuel film.
 
2014-05-03 11:25:57 AM  

Ghastly: Dead for Tax Reasons: [www.indelibleinc.com image 379x386]

they already created it, but i wouldn't call it a success

Should have ended the movie with him in the helicopter praying to the blue fairy to make him a real boy.


<csb>

When I first watched that movie over at a friends house, they stopped the movie at that point, saying something like "There's really no point in watching the credits."  As a result, I thought it was a pretty good, but very sad movie and I did not understand the hate some people had for it.  It wasn't until a few months later that I found out (from a '10 movies where the ending ruined the story' article no less) that there was more after that.  I owe that friend a debt I may never be able to fully repay.

</csb>
 
2014-05-03 03:09:30 PM  
freefall.purrsia.com

freefall.purrsia.com
 
2014-05-03 09:41:54 PM  
wileywiggins.com

/my lawn, get off of it
 
2014-05-03 10:02:26 PM  
(Almost forgot...)

Lister: Sometimes, I think it's cruel giving machines a personality. My mate Petersen once bought a pair of shoes with Artificial Intelligence. 'Smart Shoes' they were called. It was a neat idea: no matter how blind drunk you were, they could always get you home. But he got ratted one night in Oslo and woke up the next morning in Burma. See, his shoes got bored going from his local to the flat. They wanted to see the world like, you know. He had a hell of a job getting rid of them. No matter who he sold them to, they'd show up again the next day. He tried to shut them out, but they just kicked the door down.

Rimmer: Is this true?

Lister: Yeah. The last thing I heard, they sort of, uhm... robbed a car and drove it into a canal. They couldn't steer, you see.

Rimmer: Really?

Lister: Yeah. Petersen was really, really blown away about it. He went to see a priest. The priest told him... he said... he said it was alright and all that, like the shoes were happy and that they'd gone to heaven. You see, it turns out shoes have soles.

Rimmer: Ah, what a sad story. Wait a minute. [Thinks for a moment] How did they open the car door?
 
2014-05-04 03:55:25 AM  

Wolf892: I've been wondering lately about a computer that becomes so smart that eventually it could know everything, predict everything and understand everything.

Some people might think this is a great thing, the computer could answer our questions about the universe and guide us into a bright future.

Some people might worry that this smart machine might view us as ants, without need to consider us anything but a pest, and possibly want to destroy us.

I've come to the conclusion though that if a machine ever got that smart it might just power itself down because it realises the ultimate truth, that nothing matters because there is no such thing as a future. Eventually everything reaches zero again in the cosmos, compared to that, cures for cancer, star travel, bio weapons, renewable energy... It's all pretty trivial because none of it changes the final outcome which is oblivion for everything.


So why haven't you voluntarily powered yourself off yet, considering you figured this all out with your piddly meat brain?

Maybe a computer would choose to go on for all the very same reasons, didja ever think of that - with your meat brain?
 
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