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2014-05-02 07:50:01 PM
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2014-05-02 11:13:27 PM
That sounds nice for protecting astronauts from radiation on the way to Mars. Also, since you can't see through it, could you flip it on to intercept the incoming energy and flick it off again to see? Could you do that rapidly?
 
2014-05-02 11:22:58 PM
Picture of second death star with note "The Death Star, which protagonist Luke Skywalker successfully destroys in the Star Wars franchise while piloting an X-Wing fighter. Credit: Wikipedia;".

/Raaaaaaaaaaage
 
2014-05-02 11:29:58 PM

cgraves67: That sounds nice for protecting astronauts from radiation on the way to Mars. Also, since you can't see through it, could you flip it on to intercept the incoming energy and flick it off again to see? Could you do that rapidly?


Look up the RPG "Traveller" and the Black Globe device -- works exactly like that.
 
2014-05-02 11:34:13 PM
I'm thinking I posted that line the first time we had this article.
 
2014-05-02 11:42:56 PM

Otfsentet: Picture of second death star with note "The Death Star, which protagonist Luke Skywalker successfully destroys in the Star Wars franchise while piloting an X-Wing fighter. Credit: Wikipedia;".

/Raaaaaaaaaaage


Just more proof African Americans get no respect in Sci Fi and Fantasy, even in a Galaxy Far Far Away.
 
2014-05-02 11:48:16 PM

cgraves67: That sounds nice for protecting astronauts from radiation on the way to Mars. Also, since you can't see through it, could you flip it on to intercept the incoming energy and flick it off again to see? Could you do that rapidly?


And a beefed up shield could help in Martian colonies. Thus, avoiding mutations caused by radiation.
 
2014-05-02 11:49:49 PM
There's also this breakthrough, "UV radiation is beyond the frequency of light radiation."
 
2014-05-02 11:53:37 PM
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2014-05-03 12:07:03 AM

DeathLemur: cgraves67: That sounds nice for protecting astronauts from radiation on the way to Mars. Also, since you can't see through it, could you flip it on to intercept the incoming energy and flick it off again to see? Could you do that rapidly?

Look up the RPG "Traveller" and the Black Globe device -- works exactly like that.


Yaskoydray has better shields.
 
2014-05-03 12:24:32 AM

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favourited. nice one.
 
2014-05-03 01:45:38 AM
"The only drawback is that you won't be able to see a thing outside of your starfighter. "

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2014-05-03 01:51:29 AM

BumpInTheNight: [media.tumblr.com image 398x505]


I like the idea, but it would be better if the very first farking scene in the Star Wars franchise didn't show the same type of ship using shields.

/maybe I'm missing some nerd joke
 
2014-05-03 01:58:11 AM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: BumpInTheNight: [media.tumblr.com image 398x505]

I like the idea, but it would be better if the very first farking scene in the Star Wars franchise didn't show the same type of ship using shields.

/maybe I'm missing some nerd joke


I'm pretty sure that the mechanism by which shields in Star Wars work would be completely ignored by the teleporter technology in Star Trek. That said, the laser weapons in Star Wars are more accurately throwing blobs of plasma around so the image is still wrong.
 
2014-05-03 02:09:10 AM
So, RTFA expecting metamaterials. Turns out it's kids fairly pleased with themselves for having discovered cyclotron motion and the plasma frequency. Good for them...

Yes, on paper a toroidal magnetic field will trap a plasma, and yes a plasma effectively reflects all frequencies below the plasma frequency. Now if it were actually that simple and it didn't take an entire page to write down the equations governing even a fairly idealized plasma, we'd have had working fusion reactors in 1960. In fact, after sixty years of theoretical analysis, fifty years of experimenting and engineering, and forty years of simulation we've almost nailed down and counteracted enough real-life plasma flow instabilities that a machine the size of a mansion can now contain a fusion plasma for a good fraction of an entire minute. In other words, don't hold your breath waiting for a shape-conformant plasma shield.

IMO the shield-bubble, as opposed to shield that magically has the exact shape as the hull, is a pleasant touch of plausible-realism in TNG and later Trek...
 
2014-05-03 03:30:07 AM
"Sir, our lasers have no effect!"

"Load the railguns."
 
2014-05-03 04:04:57 AM

DeathLemur: cgraves67: That sounds nice for protecting astronauts from radiation on the way to Mars. Also, since you can't see through it, could you flip it on to intercept the incoming energy and flick it off again to see? Could you do that rapidly?

Look up the RPG "Traveller" and the Black Globe device -- works exactly like that.


I think GURPS also had black shields, a pre-cursor tech to "Star Trek" shields.
 
2014-05-03 04:49:50 AM
Would it be possible to generate an oscillating field of radiation resistant micro-particles that is forced to conform to a bubble. Basically you create a layered faraday cage of particles that oscillate due to a drive mechanism that creates a moving bubble of really fine dense matter, like say depleted uranium coated ferrous alloy micro-structures (tiny pyramids? Not sure which shape would work best. Basically you deploy several outrigger magnets and have them force a stable magnetic pull with an oscillating magnet in the middle. The opposing forces constantly shifting would generate a semi-solid field of radiation-blocking material. Perhaps if you layer the micro-structures with different metals you can block specific wavelengths of radiation.
 
2014-05-03 06:15:21 AM
I think this, released in 1963 predates the 1970`s traveller by a decade and describes the force field that cuts off all forces quite nicely. Of course, gravity stops affecting you so don`t wait too long before you turn it off if you don`t have a parachute...

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2014-05-03 06:16:14 AM
Curse them and their image filter
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2014-05-03 06:29:02 AM
It's a trap?
 
2014-05-03 07:01:02 AM

Bslim: It's a trap?


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2014-05-03 07:28:44 AM

croesius: "The only drawback is that you won't be able to see a thing outside of your starfighter. "


Ah, but what if the magnetic field is strong enough to create a disturbance in the Force?
 
2014-05-03 07:40:52 AM
I heard those things are a bit tricky to build.

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2014-05-03 11:38:00 AM

HalEmmerich: I'm pretty sure that the mechanism by which shields in Star Wars work would be completely ignored by the teleporter technology in Star Trek. That said, the laser weapons in Star Wars are more accurately throwing blobs of plasma around so the image is still wrong.


The transporters in Star Trek fark up and won't transport if someone looks at them sideways. Pretty much any kind of energy bubble around a ship would make them not work.

/That pictures makes me angry, but I guess that's the point
//I am happy you pointed out that it's not lasers in Star Wars, though
 
2014-05-03 12:08:51 PM
"The shaft is ray shielded so you'll have to use proton torpedoes"

You can't beam past shields either.
 
2014-05-03 12:09:27 PM

HalEmmerich: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: BumpInTheNight: [media.tumblr.com image 398x505]

I like the idea, but it would be better if the very first farking scene in the Star Wars franchise didn't show the same type of ship using shields.

/maybe I'm missing some nerd joke

I'm pretty sure that the mechanism by which shields in Star Wars work would be completely ignored by the teleporter technology in Star Trek. That said, the laser weapons in Star Wars are more accurately throwing blobs of plasma around so the image is still wrong


..."Star Wars" happened "along time ago in a galaxt far, far away"; I'm willing to be that by the time the two met - barring ridiculous Trek time-travel or "ZOMG! Somehow we've just travelled umpteen quadrillion lightyears in just a few seconds!" that the Empire (or whatever replaces it) would have tech significantly in advance of the Federation's.
As it stands, that image is like splicing together shots of modern US Marines (and their toys) and soldiers at the Battle of Hastings, and then showing the Marines bragging.

Also,

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2014-05-03 12:47:25 PM

BumpInTheNight: [media.tumblr.com image 398x505]


I would assume that the Federation vessel would attempt to make peaceful first contact.

They would hail the Star Destroyer and open a viewscreen communication channel.

And then there would be a replay of this scene, but with Picard instead of Ozzel, and Riker instead of Piett.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-03 12:50:01 PM

cgraves67: That sounds nice for protecting astronauts from radiation on the way to Mars. Also, since you can't see through it, could you flip it on to intercept the incoming energy and flick it off again to see? Could you do that rapidly?


How do you know about the incoming energy? If it EM radiation, you only know about it when it hits you. It is too late to turn it on when it hits you.
 
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