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(The Consumerist)   Town creates "Do Not Knock" registry to deter solicitors. Also needed, do not bulk mail registry, do not post flyers registry   (consumerist.com) divider line 30
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2014-05-02 05:53:11 PM
we get the crazy Jesus people once a month.  and keep leaving their literature.
 
2014-05-02 06:34:57 PM

ManateeGag: we get the crazy Jesus people once a month.  and keep leaving their literature.


They are still allowed, as are political types.

These lists have been around for a while now. I use to work at a door-to-door firm and got a few packets with doors not to knock on.

/thank goodness those days are over
 
2014-05-02 06:35:35 PM
I think there actually is a "do not bulk mail" registry.  It may just be for credit card offers, but I sorta remember putting my name on the list many years ago, and my junk mail went down significantly.  I could be wrong.
 
2014-05-02 06:38:54 PM

WI241TH: ManateeGag: we get the crazy Jesus people once a month.  and keep leaving their literature.

They are still allowed, as are political types.

These lists have been around for a while now. I use to work at a door-to-door firm and got a few packets with doors not to knock on.

/thank goodness those days are over


I remember in the 80s as a kid, everyone had "NO SOLICITORS" stickers on their front door windows.  I'm sure it wasn't legally enforced and was just a scam by someone selling "NO SOLICITORS" stickers.  But I remember it was a thing.

I also remember finding it weird that I could still walk up and sell stuff for school/Cub Scouts fundraisers.  But its not like someone is gonna call the cops on an 8 year old for FTC violations ;)
 
2014-05-02 06:41:14 PM
How about a Do Not Register registry?
 
2014-05-02 06:57:22 PM

downstairs: WI241TH: ManateeGag: we get the crazy Jesus people once a month.  and keep leaving their literature.

They are still allowed, as are political types.

These lists have been around for a while now. I use to work at a door-to-door firm and got a few packets with doors not to knock on.

/thank goodness those days are over

I remember in the 80s as a kid, everyone had "NO SOLICITORS" stickers on their front door windows.  I'm sure it wasn't legally enforced and was just a scam by someone selling "NO SOLICITORS" stickers.  But I remember it was a thing.

I also remember finding it weird that I could still walk up and sell stuff for school/Cub Scouts fundraisers.  But its not like someone is gonna call the cops on an 8 year old for FTC violations ;)


I was told to skip those houses but there were a few that would go anyway. This was 2010 (when I was 21/22), but in my mind getting shot for trespassing was not out of the question.
 
2014-05-02 07:07:20 PM
I'm sure they'll give just as many shiats about that law as they do about the "no soliciting" sign on my door.
 
2014-05-02 07:29:50 PM
We need a massive Go fark Yourself Alliance to keep the human filth away from everyone else.
 
2014-05-02 07:35:04 PM
I'm on the Do Not Call list and I still get a solicitation call every few months.  I'm irritated enough to report it every time.

I'd print a "No soliciting, No proselytizing, No Canvassing, No Exceptions" sign for my front door but the wife thinks it makes us look unfriendly. (that's the point, honey!)
 
2014-05-02 07:50:45 PM
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"Now, I think we got a stack of mail out there at the desk that belongs to you.  You want that mail, now, don't you..."
 
2014-05-02 07:52:56 PM
I only get extreme bible humpers and political(alderman) shiat
 
2014-05-02 07:59:26 PM

SquiggsIN: I'm on the Do Not Call list and I still get a solicitation call every few months.  I'm irritated enough to report it every time.

I'd print a "No soliciting, No proselytizing, No Canvassing, No Exceptions" sign for my front door but the wife thinks it makes us look unfriendly. (that's the point, honey!)


They ignore no soliciting signs on the door here, I don't know how they think that I'll buy something if they knock anyway. aholes...
 
2014-05-02 08:01:47 PM
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2014-05-02 08:02:22 PM
I just stopped answering the door.

Family/friends/landlord know to call first if they're going to stop by.  Anyone else will be trying to sell me something, and I'm not buyin.  That includes girl scout cookies - I buy those at the office.
 
2014-05-02 08:11:30 PM

Cytokine Storm: I just stopped answering the door.

Family/friends/landlord know to call first if they're going to stop by.  Anyone else will be trying to sell me something, and I'm not buyin.  That includes girl scout cookies - I buy those at the office.


I'm the same way.  If you don't know my cell number I don't need to hear what you have to say.
 
2014-05-02 08:15:10 PM
Headline brought this to mind:

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2014-05-02 08:23:10 PM

SquiggsIN: Cytokine Storm: I just stopped answering the door.

Family/friends/landlord know to call first if they're going to stop by.  Anyone else will be trying to sell me something, and I'm not buyin.  That includes girl scout cookies - I buy those at the office.

I'm the same way.  If you don't know my cell number I don't need to hear what you have to say.


Yeah several of you show up in every telemarketing thread. I'm sure your solution works fine if you're a loner hermit. Anyone needs to ask you for directions, or needs to use your phone to call 911, or your neighbor wants to let you know that your attic fan blew over and now there's a big-ass hole in your roof, well forget it -- I'm hiding from asshole door-to-door salesmen. Wouldn't it be more beneficial to society to just shut out the jerks? So we could resume free neighborly communication without having to hide? I think so.
 
2014-05-02 08:49:10 PM
This law will be overturned the first time someone tries to enforce it.  Watchtower v. Strattonstates that the government cannot regulate people who go door-to-door in this manner. It's a main pillar of Jehovah's Witness/Mormon religious belief to proselytize in this manner and the state is not allowed to allow religious speakers more free speech rights than secular ones.
 
2014-05-02 09:26:08 PM
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2014-05-02 09:29:49 PM
Re: Putting up a "No Solicitors" sign to keep away salespeople.

Years ago when my friend was in the local Jaycees, I joined him and his fellow Jaycee members at a local bar. They were wandering through the crowd handing out tickets to a fund-raising dinner of some sort. I told my friend about the "NO SOLICITATION ALLOWED ON PREMISES" sign at the front door and he didn't seem to believe that what he was doing was considered solicitation. I told him "You are inside someone's place of business filled with customers and you are approaching people you don't know trying to sell them something." He then claimed the sign didn't apply to them because they were a non-profit organization.

I was just waiting for the bar owner to forcibly eject them all. I doubt "b-b-but we're a non-profit" would have changed the owner's mind.
 
2014-05-02 09:37:59 PM

nytmare: Anyone needs to ask you for directions, or needs to use your phone to call 911


It's 2014. They have their own phone, and it's loaded up with google maps or some equivalent.

nytmare: or your neighbor wants to let you know that your attic fan blew over and now there's a big-ass hole in your roof


My neighbors know me and have my contact information. Why are they wasting time running over to my home in order to knock on my door and tell me something I likely already know, what with being at home when it happened?
 
2014-05-02 11:30:00 PM
I was hungover one afternoon, Farkin' off in my spare room which has a window onto the front door. Cable pushers knock at my door, says "were from Time Warner". Reply "I have FiOS". "Still, we need to talk to you." "No you don't."
 
2014-05-03 12:32:31 AM
I've asked people to leave the building for this a few times..

shiat, I may actually be in the wrong.

We live in a co-op building.  Signs at all doors No loitering, soliciting, or trespassing.  Still , people will button mash the buzzers until someone lets them in.

On the rare occasion (three times in as many years) a solicitor did knock on my door, I told them they had to leave the building, as it is private property.  One guy said OK, and when I closed my door, I looked through the peephole, he was hitting the elevator button.

Opened the door, told him he had to leave, or the police would be called for trespassing.  Gave me the story, just trying to raise money for the children!  Told him I wasn't questioning his ethics, just that he had to leave.

Also, in NYC, we do have a no flyer/menu/advertisement law.  Which is nice.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dsny/html/pr2008/72108.shtml
 
2014-05-03 01:14:38 AM
I have a "Solicitors will be challenged to trial by combat" sign next to my doorbell. Sadly, I have not had a chance to break out the longsword yet.
 
2014-05-03 03:18:56 AM

WI241TH: They are still allowed, as are political types.


They may be excluded from no solicitation restrictions, but many of them still seem to honor them.  After installing a no solicitation sign on my front door, the number of religious and political solicitors dropped significantly.

When a religious solicitor does show up, I just point to the sign.  If they say "I'm not selling anything!", I reply with "you're selling God" and will close the door.  To their credit, Mormon missionaries honor the sign.  My problem is with missionaries from the large non-denominational mega churches in the area.  They don't show up often enough to be a pest, but I have considered adding this to my front door:

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2014-05-03 08:51:33 AM

nytmare: Yeah several of you show up in every telemarketing thread. I'm sure your solution works fine if you're a loner hermit. Anyone needs to ask you for directions, or needs to use your phone to call 911, or your neighbor wants to let you know that your attic fan blew over and now there's a big-ass hole in your roof, well forget it -- I'm hiding from asshole door-to-door salesmen. Wouldn't it be more beneficial to society to just shut out the jerks? So we could resume free neighborly communication without having to hide? I think so.


Anyone needs to ask you for directions, or needs to use your phone to call 911


There's a convenience store right down the road or they are free to use their own cellphone which has call and GPS functions built in. Further, do you honestly think I am going to hand over my phone to some random so they can take off with it? If there's such a dire emergency that it takes place within sight or earshot of my home that requires the use of 911, I'll be on the phone in a jiffy myself. There's zero need for them to use it.

your neighbor wants to let you know that your attic fan blew over and now there's a big-ass hole in your roof

I know my neighbors well, as they know me, and we're all aware how to contact each other in case of an emergency that doesn't require little Timmy running Hell bent for election across the pastures to go bang on anyone's door. We live in 2014, contacting your neighbors is as easy as a call, a text or an email.

Wouldn't it be more beneficial to society to just shut out the jerks? So we could resume free neighborly communication without having to hide? I think so.

That's exactly what's going on, we're just using modern technology to help us do it. I can, and do, have "free neighborly communication" without anyone knocking on my door for any reason. The only reason to bang on my door is if FedEx or UPS is dropping off new toys for me to play with. This encapsulates my feelings on people knocking on my door, sans the homophobia:

"Never, never, interrupt me, okay? Not if there's a fire, not even if you hear the sound of a thud from my home and one week later there's a smell coming from there that can only be a decaying human body and you have to hold a hanky to your face because the stench is so thick that you think you're going to faint. Even then, don't come knocking. Or, if it's election night, and you're excited and you wanna celebrate because some fudgepacker that you date has been elected the first queer president of the United States and he's going to have you down to Camp David, and you want someone to share the moment with. Even then, don't knock. Not on this door. Not for ANY reason. Do you get me, sweetheart?"
 
2014-05-03 09:05:30 AM

Cytokine Storm: I just stopped answering the door.

Family/friends/landlord know to call first if they're going to stop by.  Anyone else will be trying to sell me something, and I'm not buyin.  That includes girl scout cookies - I buy those at the office.


Exactly.  I don't answer the door unless I got a call ahead of time.  One broad stood there for 5 minutes knocking after pulling into my driveway.  I don't know what she wanted.  If it was my penis, I'm kinda sad now I didn't answer...
 
2014-05-03 09:33:02 AM

SquiggsIN: I'm on the Do Not Call list and I still get a solicitation call every few months.  I'm irritated enough to report it every time.

I'd print a "No soliciting, No proselytizing, No Canvassing, No Exceptions" sign for my front door but the wife thinks it makes us look unfriendly. (that's the point, honey!)


I actually did this. Jehovah's Witnesses would come by about every other month. When told them they were ignoring the No Soliciting sign, they said it didn't apply to them because they're not trying to make me buy anything. While I was tempted to tell them they were trying to make me buy a load of crap, I was polite and sent them on their way. So I made up a sign that stated 'No soliciting: political, commercial, religious, or any other type'. Don't know if it made me look unfriendly or not but it stopped the unwelcome doorbell ringers completely.

/Would have been more fun if I had hounds... with bees in their mouths
 
2014-05-03 10:44:29 AM
But what about doorbells, Mr. Smartypants?
 
2014-05-03 11:17:09 PM

SquiggsIN: I'm on the Do Not Call list and I still get a solicitation call every few months.  I'm irritated enough to report it every time.

I'd print a "No soliciting, No proselytizing, No Canvassing, No Exceptions" sign for my front door but the wife thinks it makes us look unfriendly. (that's the point, honey!)


You have a legal right to have the first one recognized, the other two not so much. 1st Amendment gives Religious and Political types license to knock, whether you like it or not. And often, it's their job to knock, and if they obey signs like yours and skip houses without trying they get dinged for it. Don't be an ass.

EngineerAU: SquiggsIN: I'm on the Do Not Call list and I still get a solicitation call every few months.  I'm irritated enough to report it every time.

I'd print a "No soliciting, No proselytizing, No Canvassing, No Exceptions" sign for my front door but the wife thinks it makes us look unfriendly. (that's the point, honey!)

I actually did this. Jehovah's Witnesses would come by about every other month. When told them they were ignoring the No Soliciting sign, they said it didn't apply to them because they're not trying to make me buy anything. While I was tempted to tell them they were trying to make me buy a load of crap, I was polite and sent them on their way. So I made up a sign that stated 'No soliciting: political, commercial, religious, or any other type'. Don't know if it made me look unfriendly or not but it stopped the unwelcome doorbell ringers completely.

/Would have been more fun if I had hounds... with bees in their mouths


They were right. It also doesn't apply to canvassers. And if you had sent dogs to attack or done anything to threaten them, you'd be opening yourself to a massive lawsuit. You have a legal obligation to allow safe passage onto your property to those there for legal purposes.
 
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