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(Talking Points Memo)   KS Senator Pat Roberts Tea Party primary challenger is trying to get Roberts removed from the ballot as ineligible on the grounds that Roberts doesn't own a home in KS and appears to have never stayed at the rented room he calls his "residence"   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 81
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2014-05-02 04:32:52 PM  
Carpetbagging: A tradition has American as idolizing rich families.
 
2014-05-02 04:35:30 PM  
That headline is garbled and mistake-filled enough to be on a teabagger's sign at a rally, that's for sure.
 
2014-05-02 04:37:57 PM  

Cagey B: That headline is garbled and mistake-filled enough to be on a teabagger's sign at a rally, that's for sure.


I was wondering:  Remove Robert's what?

I know teabaggers can be an angry bunch, but that seems a little extreme.
 
2014-05-02 04:45:16 PM  
i232.photobucket.com
 
2014-05-02 05:04:11 PM  

Diogenes: Cagey B: That headline is garbled and mistake-filled enough to be on a teabagger's sign at a rally, that's for sure.

I was wondering:  Remove Robert's what?

I know teabaggers can be an angry bunch, but that seems a little extreme.


It's got some odd capitalization going on at the beginning, but otherwise it's actually fine.
 
2014-05-02 05:19:12 PM  

Delta1212: Diogenes: Cagey B: That headline is garbled and mistake-filled enough to be on a teabagger's sign at a rally, that's for sure.

I was wondering:  Remove Robert's what?

I know teabaggers can be an angry bunch, but that seems a little extreme.

It's got some odd capitalization going on at the beginning, but otherwise it's actually fine.


I meant the incorrect possessive "trying to get Robert's removed".

But whatever.  Challenger's got a point, it would seem.
 
2014-05-02 05:21:01 PM  
I'm waiting for the day that a Kansas Republican charges his primary opponent with being a socialist RINO because he lives in Liberal
 
2014-05-02 05:28:11 PM  
 
2014-05-02 05:35:43 PM  

Delta1212: Diogenes: Cagey B: That headline is garbled and mistake-filled enough to be on a teabagger's sign at a rally, that's for sure.

I was wondering:  Remove Robert's what?

I know teabaggers can be an angry bunch, but that seems a little extreme.

It's got some odd capitalization going on at the beginning, but otherwise it's actually fine.


No, it's got a hell of a lot more wrong with it than that:

KS. KS [no period--or just "Kansas"] Senator Pat Robert's Roberts' Tea Party primary Challenger challenger is trying to get Robert's Roberts removed from the ballot as ineligible on the grounds that Roberts doesn't own a home in KS and appears to have never stayed at the rented room he calls his "residence"
 
2014-05-02 05:40:54 PM  
Rick Santorum chuckles quietly in the background.
 
2014-05-02 05:43:02 PM  
Wait a minute, didn't we have a story just the other day about some guy who was running for office in, like, four different states?


When Senator Roberts files his paperwork later today, he will likely use the address [for] a single-family home in Dodge City where he claims to rent a bedroom

So it looks like Pat... got outta Dodge.
 
2014-05-02 05:51:55 PM  
cdn.themetapicture.com
 
2014-05-02 05:53:15 PM  
Ooops, wrong image. Let's try this again ...

www.uselesstshirts.com
 
2014-05-02 05:54:58 PM  
Have YOU been to Kansas?
 
2014-05-02 05:55:11 PM  

Diogenes: Challenger's got a point, it would seem.


Indeed. I imagine it's difficult to find a hat that fits it.

/but yeah, senator should probably actually live in the state
 
2014-05-02 05:55:47 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Rick Santorum chuckles quietly in the background.


Rahm Emanuel chuckles from his mayoral chair; "Haa, haa, haa... I 'resided in Illinois' but was sleeping in VA/ Wash DC while being Obama's chief of staff..."
 
2014-05-02 06:02:11 PM  
I thought Challenger had been gone since like '87
 
2014-05-02 06:05:39 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Have YOU been to Kansas?


I live in Kansas. As embarrassed as I am to call Pat Roberts one of my Senators, I would be even more embarrassed to call Milton Wolf one of my Senators. I would consider committing seppuku if that happened.
 
2014-05-02 06:09:00 PM  

fusillade762: Wait a minute, didn't we have a story just the other day about some guy who was running for office in, like, four different states?


Yup.  The Tea Partier is right...and wrong.  Clearly, if what he says in the letter is even mostly true, Roberts doesn't live in Kansas according to the rules.

However, the residence requirement is what state you live in  on election day.  So, any challenge would have to take place  after the election happens.  (The guy running in four states was going to move to whichever state he won the nomination in if he actually did so.)
 
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2014-05-02 06:12:13 PM  

Serious Black: TheShavingofOccam123: Have YOU been to Kansas?

I live in Kansas. As embarrassed as I am to call Pat Roberts one of my Senators, I would be even more embarrassed to call Milton Wolf one of my Senators. I would consider committing seppuku if that happened.


I live in the US. I'm embarrassed to call Kansas one of our states.
 
2014-05-02 06:12:41 PM  
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2014-05-02 06:14:35 PM  
Agreeing that he may have a point is making me feel all icky....
 
2014-05-02 06:20:04 PM  

jbc: Serious Black: TheShavingofOccam123: Have YOU been to Kansas?

I live in Kansas. As embarrassed as I am to call Pat Roberts one of my Senators, I would be even more embarrassed to call Milton Wolf one of my Senators. I would consider committing seppuku if that happened.

I live in the US. I'm embarrassed to call Kansas one of our states.


I live in Arizona. I keep my mouth shut.
 
2014-05-02 06:25:56 PM  
Remember, only property owners are allowed to be elected (or vote, or have opinions that matter).

/renter for first time in years
//so frustrated I'm seriously considering starting a tenants rights movement in my town
///property management company has one star on Yelp
 
2014-05-02 06:28:54 PM  

WTF Indeed: Carpetbagging: A tradition has American as idolizing rich families.


He's really not though. He grew up in Kansas, went to Kansas State. He simply moved to DC when he was elected rather than go back and forth and hold multiple residences.
 
2014-05-02 06:29:02 PM  
Well... yeah, it's flat-out illegal to run for senate in most states if you haven't lived in that state for some amount of time, usually something like 1/3 of each of the previous two years.

Some states make exceptions for people that are already holding the senate position, but most do not.  You can't just get a senate job and then go to DC and never come back or hold any interests in the state you represent.
 
2014-05-02 06:29:16 PM  
I wonder if changing the law to require the state where you file your tax returns as the criteria would solve any issues.
 
2014-05-02 06:43:05 PM  
This kind of carpetbagging, in a way, helped put Obama in the White House (for what that may
be worth).  Before he ran for President, he was IL's junior senator, and in 2004, the IL Republicans
put Alan Keyes up against him, even though he was living in Maryland.  (Keyes was a black Republican
in the vein of Herman Cain and Allen West, and the party hoped African-Americans would simply
vote along racial lines.  BTW - Allen West? A black Republican from Florida who once screamed
about Obama in Congress and threatened to have him deported.)
 
2014-05-02 06:44:44 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Well... yeah, it's flat-out illegal to run for senate in most states if you haven't lived in that state for some amount of time, usually something like 1/3 of each of the previous two years.

Some states make exceptions for people that are already holding the senate position, but most do not.  You can't just get a senate job and then go to DC and never come back or hold any interests in the state you represent.


And all that means jack-all.  SCOTUS has on more than one occasion said that states cannot add more requirements to being elected to a federal office than the Constitution lays out.  And that the Constitution does not specify how long you must be a resident of a state to be elected, just that you are a resident on election day.  A state could write a law saying whatever they wanted with regards to residency length, but it has no force.  You could, in the most extreme example, never set foot inside Kansas in your entire life, run remotely from Maine, fly into Topeka the Monday night before the election and sign a lease at 11:59pm, and be just as valid a candidate for the Senate as a person who has never left the stat's boundaries for any reason whatsoever (and who's ancestors for 3 generations have never left the state's boundaries for any reason whatsoever).  You can argue about whether it is right, but unless you get an amendment to the Constitution passed, it is completely and utterly legal.
 
2014-05-02 06:45:41 PM  

MindStalker: WTF Indeed: Carpetbagging: A tradition has American as idolizing rich families.

He's really not though. He grew up in Kansas, went to Kansas State. He simply moved to DC when he was elected rather than go back and forth and hold multiple residences.


You should probably add a "which explicitly excludes him from being able to run for re-election by KS law" to the end of that, since that's the challenger's point.
 
2014-05-02 06:46:32 PM  

MindStalker: WTF Indeed: Carpetbagging: A tradition has American as idolizing rich families.

He's really not though. He grew up in Kansas, went to Kansas State. He simply moved to DC when he was elected rather than go back and forth and hold multiple residences.


I think he actually does own a house there, too, he just rents it out because he's in DC all the time.

I wouldn't mind seeing Roberts go down at some point (he's a decent Senator and all but he's been in DC since 1980 and sometimes it's nice to get new blood in there) but Wolf is a farking psycho.
 
2014-05-02 06:49:16 PM  

Li'l Robbie: This kind of carpetbagging, in a way, helped put Obama in the White House (for what that may
be worth).  Before he ran for President, he was IL's junior senator, and in 2004, the IL Republicans
put Alan Keyes up against him, even though he was living in Maryland.


Do you recall why the Republicans suddenly switched from the primary winner Jack Ryan to Alan Keyes? Could it have been that Jeri "Seven of Nine" Ryan filed for divorce because Jack kept pushing her to have public sex in swing clubs?
 
2014-05-02 06:51:20 PM  

rugman11: I think he actually does own a house there, too, he just rents it out because he's in DC all the time.


fark you, you can't make sense hre. THis is Fark,com
 
2014-05-02 06:57:12 PM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Could it have been that Jeri "Seven of Nine" Ryan filed for divorce because Jack kept pushing her to have public sex in swing clubs?


That was buried in their divorce filing procedures until the Tribune dug it up.  I'm not sure Ryan was winning at that point anyway.

I also think that the force-contenders-off-the-ballot technique was used by Obama against his Democratic primary challengers - not in the general election.
 
2014-05-02 06:59:15 PM  
What's this about the space shuttle?
 
2014-05-02 07:02:20 PM  
If I may for a moment, this article doesn't really seem to indicate the nature of the rented bedroom. It is like above the garage? I lived above my landlord garage for 10 years, I don't think they ever took an accounting of my comings and goings.

That being said, not having an actual residence.... yeah thats a problem.
 
2014-05-02 07:06:09 PM  
 
2014-05-02 07:06:41 PM  

SquiggsIN: Monkeyhouse Zendo: Li'l Robbie: This kind of carpetbagging, in a way, helped put Obama in the White House (for what that may
be worth).  Before he ran for President, he was IL's junior senator, and in 2004, the IL Republicans
put Alan Keyes up against him, even though he was living in Maryland.

Do you recall why the Republicans suddenly switched from the primary winner Jack Ryan to Alan Keyes? Could it have been that Jeri "Seven of Nine" Ryan filed for divorce because Jack kept pushing her to have public sex in swing clubs?


worst main cast character in Star Trek history.  She's the Jar Jar binks of ST, IMO.  Boring, bland, ugly.  Skintight body suits only help so much and if you're watching sci-fi to get your sexual jollies then you've never heard of this thing called internet porn.  The only thing that might make me like that woman would've been to find out that she WAS into swinging.

/oblig  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxYVBNhJ3pc&feature=kp


The jarjar? That was neelix.
 
2014-05-02 07:11:39 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: I wonder if changing the law to require the state where you file your tax returns as the criteria would solve any issues.


So Washington gets no senators then? I don't think I like this idea.

/no state income tax, so no tax return
 
2014-05-02 07:16:55 PM  

Sir Paul: Remember, only property owners are allowed to be elected (or vote, or have opinions that matter).

/renter for first time in years
//so frustrated I'm seriously considering starting a tenants rights movement in my town
///property management company has one star on Yelp


Who gives a positive rating to a property management company? OMG they sent a plumber like they were supposed to. They can't exactly go above and beyond
 
2014-05-02 07:23:21 PM  

SquiggsIN: worst main cast character in Star Trek history.  She's the Jar Jar binks of ST, IMO.


Deanna Troi was worse, at least for most of the series' run.  She got better at the very end, but for most of the show she was all cleavage and no brains.

Wesley of course was much worse, but he wasn't a main character.
 
2014-05-02 07:26:49 PM  

SquiggsIN: worst main cast character in Star Trek history.  She's the Jar Jar binks of ST, IMO.  Boring, bland, ugly.  Skintight body suits only help so much and if you're watching sci-fi to get your sexual jollies then you've never heard of this thing called internet porn.  The only thing that might make me like that woman would've been to find out that she WAS into swinging.


Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion, even if it's wrong. Seven of Nine was infinitely superior to Deanna Troi (whose only redeeming feature was her mother) or, of course, the dreaded Kes (whose only redeeming feature was a freakishly short lifespan).
 
2014-05-02 07:28:13 PM  

moothemagiccow: Who gives a positive rating to a property management company? OMG they sent a plumber like they were supposed to. They can't exactly go above and beyond


I've had excellent property managers - people who kept even their older properties in very, very good shape, had maintenance people out there immediately for any problem, etc.

Maybe it was just because my first apartment managers would take weeks to months to address any issue, and once blamed us for damage caused by their own employee (he cut out a section of wall to fix a leak, and after spending four months asking for them to patch the wall, they tried to bill us for it).
 
2014-05-02 07:38:23 PM  

moothemagiccow: Sir Paul: Remember, only property owners are allowed to be elected (or vote, or have opinions that matter).

/renter for first time in years
//so frustrated I'm seriously considering starting a tenants rights movement in my town
///property management company has one star on Yelp

Who gives a positive rating to a property management company? OMG they sent a plumber like they were supposed to. They can't exactly go above and beyond


It comes down to how they compare across the industry:

I had a lease where workman contacted me to set appointments the next day, where they didn't try to withhold my security deposit, and helped you find a replacement if you had to break your lease without a "reassignment fee."  That's a great company.  5/5, would lease again.

Or, you can move in to a place w/o smoke or CO detectors (major building code violation) and wait 10 days (and counting) for the plumber because they "forgot to ask you what make and model the dishwasher is."  We're hitting Comcast levels of service here.
 
2014-05-02 07:40:53 PM  

Sum Dum Gai: SquiggsIN: worst main cast character in Star Trek history.  She's the Jar Jar binks of ST, IMO.

Deanna Troi was worse, at least for most of the series' run.  She got better at the very end, but for most of the show she was all cleavage and no brains.

Wesley of course was much worse, but he wasn't a main character.


And not any good cleavage. And an ugly ass. Why they tried to pass her off as the show's sex symbol is beyond me. Beverly was much hotter. Hell, Nurse Ogawa (sp?) was hotter.
 
2014-05-02 07:53:53 PM  
What boggles me is just how stingy-ass Roberts is on this point.

This is Kansas we're talking about here.  You can buy a house for $20,000 in almost any county in the state.  The one I linked to is in Leavenworth, a 10 minute drive from Kansas City International Airport (Dodge City is much less convenient).  Fly to your "house in Leavenworth" twice a year, mow the yard, and avoid any questions about eligibility.   For $20k cash, about $300 a year in property tax, and maybe $500 a year for someone to check on it.

Roberts is a millionaire several times over.  That's just being a tight-ass.
 
2014-05-02 08:09:36 PM  

cretinbob: w......t...........f?

Holy cats.

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Serious Black: TheShavingofOccam123: Have YOU been to Kansas?

I live in Kansas. As embarrassed as I am to call Pat Roberts one of my Senators, I would be even more embarrassed to call Milton Wolf one of my Senators. I would consider committing seppuku if that happened.


I would say, "I don't think he can win" but then I remember this is Brownbackistan we're talking about.  After the primary he probably could.
 
2014-05-02 08:14:39 PM  

TheBigJerk: cretinbob: w......t...........f?

Holy cats.

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Serious Black: TheShavingofOccam123: Have YOU been to Kansas?

I live in Kansas. As embarrassed as I am to call Pat Roberts one of my Senators, I would be even more embarrassed to call Milton Wolf one of my Senators. I would consider committing seppuku if that happened.

I would say, "I don't think he can win" but then I remember this is Brownbackistan we're talking about.  After the primary he probably could.

Oh biatch I'm so stealing that.
 
2014-05-02 08:19:25 PM  

Smackledorfer: SquiggsIN: Monkeyhouse Zendo: Li'l Robbie: This kind of carpetbagging, in a way, helped put Obama in the White House (for what that may
be worth).  Before he ran for President, he was IL's junior senator, and in 2004, the IL Republicans
put Alan Keyes up against him, even though he was living in Maryland.

Do you recall why the Republicans suddenly switched from the primary winner Jack Ryan to Alan Keyes? Could it have been that Jeri "Seven of Nine" Ryan filed for divorce because Jack kept pushing her to have public sex in swing clubs?


worst main cast character in Star Trek history.  She's the Jar Jar binks of ST, IMO.  Boring, bland, ugly.  Skintight body suits only help so much and if you're watching sci-fi to get your sexual jollies then you've never heard of this thing called internet porn.  The only thing that might make me like that woman would've been to find out that she WAS into swinging.

/oblig  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxYVBNhJ3pc&feature=kp

The jarjar? That was neelix.


There are claims that Jeri Ryan is actually a decent actress underneath the shiatty, shiatty writing.  I hear that even more about Ethan Philips.  Sadly, that does not change the fact that they were terrible characters.

And honestly, Jeri Ryan wasn't super-duper hot to me.  Maybe I'm just spoiled by the internet and its endless cornucopia of sexy lady pictures, but she was just very pretty, not stunning.  She was certainly no Inara.

That said, you're a Republican politician, let alone a "family values" huckster?  You don't do public sex, periodfull stop.  It has the word "public" and the word "sex" in it when you're a part of the Anti-sex league.
And why the fark would you push your (still plenty pretty) woman into having sex with other people when she doesn't want to anyway?
 
2014-05-02 08:25:07 PM  
He might have a shot. California just convicted a Democratic state legislator of perjury and voter fraud for lying about where he lived when he ran for office.
 
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