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(Toqueland)   Ex-chef Anthony Bourdain on life as celebrity: "It's easier than filling up the steam table in a shiatty restaurant you don't like in the morning knowing you're about to cook food that you hate for people you hate. Brunch is hard, you know?"   (toqueland.com ) divider line
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2014-05-02 02:56:26 PM  
Only did line cook work for two years but I wholeheartedly agree
 
2014-05-02 02:59:19 PM  
Being a celebrity sure beats working for a living.  Especially in the restaurant biz.  Ug.
 
2014-05-02 03:26:21 PM  
At least he finally admits he is not a chef.
 
2014-05-02 03:57:30 PM  

BalugaJoe: At least he finally admits he is not a chef.


I don't think he ever had pretensions about being some great chef. He wrote a book about working in the restaurant business for decades and became famous for that.
 
2014-05-02 04:05:24 PM  
I give him credit for ingesting some of the most vile things I've ever seen. One example that comes to mind is when he traveled to Vietnam and drank shots of some hard liquor that had dead birds steeping it it. I have yet to read Kitchen Confidential, but it's on my list.
 
2014-05-02 04:06:59 PM  
I washed dishes one night.  I vowed to go to college after that experience.
 
Ant
2014-05-02 04:07:02 PM  

BalugaJoe: At least he finally admits he is not a chef.


He was a chef, now he's not. He's never pretended to be a master chef or anything. I don't know where people get this idea.
 
2014-05-02 04:07:52 PM  

Atomic Spunk: One example that comes to mind is when he traveled to Vietnam and drank shots of some hard liquor that had dead birds steeping it it.


the mostly raw pig butthole with sand and charcoal seasoning in namibia was up there
 
2014-05-02 04:08:26 PM  
Wut? I actually feel for him on this one. I was fortunate enough to work in a few places that did fantasical, beautiful wonderlands of brunch.
 
2014-05-02 04:09:08 PM  

Atomic Spunk: I have yet to read Kitchen Confidential, but it's on my list.


I'm a slow reader and I devoured it; it's a fun and easy read.

/If I look real hard, I can probably find it on the shelf 15 feet in front of me.
 
Ant
2014-05-02 04:09:43 PM  

sprawl15: the mostly raw pig butthole with sand and charcoal seasoning in namibia was up there


They were farking with him.

Tribesmen: "Holy shiat! He ate it!"
 
2014-05-02 04:09:45 PM  

BalugaJoe: At least he finally admits he is not a chef.


Except...he was one? And he admits his hands aren't up to the task and he has no place in a kitchen anymore.

Do you do a stream of consciousness thing when you type, or do your fingers just metaphorically vomit up letters that *happen* to make you look like you don't know what you're talking about?
 
2014-05-02 04:11:07 PM  

sprawl15: the mostly raw pig butthole with sand and charcoal seasoning in namibia was up there


I think I still have nightmares about that one.
 
2014-05-02 04:11:08 PM  

Ant: BalugaJoe: At least he finally admits he is not a chef.

He was a chef, now he's not. He's never pretended to be a master chef or anything. I don't know where people get this idea.


Eh, you don't have to be a master chef if the owner has the place as more of a hobby and lives and breathes fine dining with many options that people will drive 50 miles for.
 
2014-05-02 04:12:29 PM  

mekkab: Atomic Spunk: I have yet to read Kitchen Confidential, but it's on my list.

I'm a slow reader and I devoured it; it's a fun and easy read.

/If I look real hard, I can probably find it on the shelf 15 feet in front of me.


Check out a graphic novel he co-wrote:

i.usatoday.net

Yojimbo, with foodies, vegans and the like instead of yakuza.

And the decapitation of anyone who dunks their sushi in wasabi.
 
2014-05-02 04:13:39 PM  

Capo Del Bandito: BalugaJoe: At least he finally admits he is not a chef.

Except...he was one? And he admits his hands aren't up to the task and he has no place in a kitchen anymore.

Do you do a stream of consciousness thing when you type, or do your fingers just metaphorically vomit up letters that *happen* to make you look like you don't know what you're talking about?


Once a chef always a chef, tho you may get out of the kitchen. It truely can be one of the Arts.
 
2014-05-02 04:23:07 PM  

lindalouwho: Capo Del Bandito: BalugaJoe: At least he finally admits he is not a chef.

Except...he was one? And he admits his hands aren't up to the task and he has no place in a kitchen anymore.

Do you do a stream of consciousness thing when you type, or do your fingers just metaphorically vomit up letters that *happen* to make you look like you don't know what you're talking about?

Once a chef always a chef, tho you may get out of the kitchen. It truely can be one of the Arts.


Bourdain himself disagrees: I think it was on the No Reservations ep where he did a whole "Godfather" motif, he was saying his hands weren't 'chef material' anymore, out of practice, etc.
 
2014-05-02 04:35:49 PM  
I was watching a few episodes of his new show, and he described himself as a "former utility chef". Seems humble enough to me.
 
2014-05-02 04:36:23 PM  
People get cranky when they are hungry
They are cranky when you wake them up.
They are hungry and cranky first thing in the morning.

Breakfast is the suckiest thing to cook for people.
Dinner, they drink, and they are more forgiving.
Lunch, they just want to slam something in the belly and go. Breakfast, suddenly they are spoiled little shaits.
My eggs are too runny, My eggs aren't runny enough.
I said over easy.

I have a lot of respect for a breakfast cook and I give them a lot of slack.
/Likes my dippy eggs.
 
2014-05-02 04:36:32 PM  
Brunch sucks.  It's too expensive compared to lunch and dinner for its quality and everybody tries too hard to be unique.

"Make your own bloody mary bars" suck.  What the hell am I paying you people for?   Also, a mimosa is a terrible drink.  Even worse is the "bottomless" version of either.  It's mostly bottomless bloody mary mix or bottomless OJ bar mixer.  You'll get high blood pressure or diabetes before you get drunk.

I don't need to pay too much for a whimsical twist on eggs benedict to get to the point of what brunch is really about - getting drunk by 3pm.
 
2014-05-02 04:40:47 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Also, a mimosa is a terrible drink.


Compared to vodka-and-spicy-tomato-juice, it's the farking gods' elixir.
 
2014-05-02 04:50:34 PM  
My favorite scene was when he was in a desert near Lebanon and said "I've been a farkup my entire life, I don't know how I deserve something this good" or something to that effect.
 
2014-05-02 04:51:45 PM  

Ant: BalugaJoe: At least he finally admits he is not a chef.

He was a chef, now he's not. He's never pretended to be a master chef or anything. I don't know where people get this idea.


He probably made fun of something that they like on one of his shows.

I for one would love to have his life.
 
2014-05-02 04:55:23 PM  
I remember an episode where he commented about his gig as a TV celeb along the lines of "I'm going to ride this pony as far as I can" which was refreshingly honest. I find him engaging and human. People who dislike him? Well, there's the remote and eight hundred cable channels - knock yourself out.
 
2014-05-02 04:55:37 PM  

lindalouwho: Once a chef always a chef, tho you may get out of the kitchen. It truely can be one of the Arts.


Gotta disagree.  I've been pretty damn good at a few arts, but have since abandoned them.  No way I could go back and be as good as I was in my 20s.  You certainly can lose your skills if you don't keep using them.
 
2014-05-02 05:01:58 PM  

sprawl15: Atomic Spunk: One example that comes to mind is when he traveled to Vietnam and drank shots of some hard liquor that had dead birds steeping it it.

the mostly raw pig butthole with sand and charcoal seasoning in namibia was up there


Last time I was in Vietnam, a local colleague took me and other visitors out for beers to celebrate a successful trip.  Beer was fine.  The sort of jerky snacks were good, then there was this odd spicy fried chicken elbow thing.  Seriously... deep-fried, spicy, cartilage.  At first I thought I just got a bad bit and was about to get it out of my mouth, but I was assured that was the snack.
 
2014-05-02 05:08:55 PM  

BalugaJoe: At least he finally admits he is not a chef.


Are you claiming that he isn't now, or that he never was?
 
2014-05-02 05:27:16 PM  
Is this the thread where we argue about the definition of the word "chef"?
 
2014-05-02 05:28:05 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Brunch sucks.  It's too expensive compared to lunch and dinner for its quality and everybody tries too hard to be unique.

"Make your own bloody mary bars" suck.  What the hell am I paying you people for?   Also, a mimosa is a terrible drink.  Even worse is the "bottomless" version of either.  It's mostly bottomless bloody mary mix or bottomless OJ bar mixer.  You'll get high blood pressure or diabetes before you get drunk.

I don't need to pay too much for a whimsical twist on eggs benedict to get to the point of what brunch is really about - getting drunk by 3pm.


Yep.  Sunday brunch is basically a cost savings for the restaurant where they get to "recreate"  their Friday and Saturday Night leftovers, usually with some sort of sauce or dressing to disguise it, and charge outrageous markup for cooked eggs.   Also the best cooks are working Friday and Saturday dinner service.   Sunday brunch?    You're getting the junior varsity team.
 
2014-05-02 05:41:02 PM  

fusillade762: Is this the thread where we argue about the definition of the word "chef"?


I thought we were arguing verb tense.
 
2014-05-02 05:41:05 PM  

vudukungfu: People get cranky when they are hungry
They are cranky when you wake them up.
They are hungry and cranky first thing in the morning.

Breakfast is the suckiest thing to cook for people.
Dinner, they drink, and they are more forgiving.
Lunch, they just want to slam something in the belly and go. Breakfast, suddenly they are spoiled little shaits.
My eggs are too runny, My eggs aren't runny enough.
I said over easy.

I have a lot of respect for a breakfast cook and I give them a lot of slack.
/Likes my dippy eggs.


I believe you, but personally I am happy with breakfast 99% of the time just with the pleasure of not having to cook and a decent hash brown with my eggs.
 
2014-05-02 05:42:05 PM  

red5ish: I remember an episode where he commented about his gig as a TV celeb along the lines of "I'm going to ride this pony as far as I can" which was refreshingly honest. I find him engaging and human. People who dislike him? Well, there's the remote and eight hundred cable channels - knock yourself out.


I like him to. He has one of the most interesting jobs a man could have and doesn't act like he isn't aware of that fact. I haven't watched his new show on CNN but whenever I catch 'no reservations' on while I'm channel surfing I can usually be pretty sure I'm going to be entertained while learning some cool shiat about other cultures.
 
2014-05-02 05:43:08 PM  
I like him too*. Farking phone.
 
2014-05-02 05:48:45 PM  
Attention whore in pants; sad to say he is a jack ass, and smells like wet jackass rear end; and his complaints/ complaining are worse than donkey braying... "...and then from that point on I have been careful.  I've been very careful." No, you have run off at the mouth every time some one puts a mic or a newspad in front of you. No respect, and doesn't deserve the electrons this fark article are wasting on him.

PS: Started being a foodie back when Julie Childs started the genre, with Yan can Cook (Martin Yan) and the Galloping Gourmet ( Graham Kerr  ). Also liked Jacques Pépin. So, no the food network/food TV did not start with Bourdain, and certainly doesn't need his potty mouth.
 
2014-05-02 05:49:29 PM  

fusillade762: Is this the thread where we argue about the definition of the word "chef"?


Nope.
 
2014-05-02 05:51:01 PM  

red5ish: I remember an episode where he commented about his gig as a TV celeb along the lines of "I'm going to ride this pony as far as I can" which was refreshingly honest.


That's just what my first wife said before our family's tuna cannery closed down.


/Bound to happen at some point.
//Because all the other canneries closed down in the 1930s.
 
2014-05-02 06:05:12 PM  

Swampmaster: Attention whore in pants; sad to say he is a jack ass, and smells like wet jackass rear end; and his complaints/ complaining are worse than donkey braying... "...and then from that point on I have been careful.  I've been very careful." No, you have run off at the mouth every time some one puts a mic or a newspad in front of you. No respect, and doesn't deserve the electrons this fark article are wasting on him.

PS: Started being a foodie back when Julie Childs started the genre, with Yan can Cook (Martin Yan) and the Galloping Gourmet ( Graham Kerr  ). Also liked Jacques Pépin. So, no the food network/food TV did not start with Bourdain, and certainly doesn't need his potty mouth.


Attention whores use the term potty mouth
 
2014-05-02 06:12:22 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: fusillade762: Is this the thread where we argue about the definition of the word "chef"?

I thought we were arguing verb tense.


In most cases the chef is the person who doesnt have to clean up after themselves... everyone else is a cook.

otherwise? they are the kitchen manager. you don't actually need in formal education to be called a chef in that regard. or any regard really
 
2014-05-02 06:17:23 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: In most cases the chef is the person who doesnt have to clean up after themselves... everyone else is a cook.

otherwise? they are the kitchen manager. you don't actually need in formal education to be called a chef in that regard. or any regard really


That's great, but who are The Chefs?


/I think one would be hard pressed to argue that Anthony wasn't a chef. The question is, is he still? Either because he still gets in the kitchen on occasion, or, like "President" or "Captain", it's a title you keep even after leaving the position.
 
2014-05-02 06:25:45 PM  
The food hall where monitors slap you with spatulas.
 
2014-05-02 06:28:36 PM  
Jesus christ lighten the fark up. He's not a chef, the fark is he still complaining about? You tards like this guy?
 
2014-05-02 06:34:50 PM  

moothemagiccow: Jesus christ lighten the fark up.


Physician, heal thyself!

moothemagiccow: He's not a chef


On what grounds?

moothemagiccow: the fark is he still complaining about?


I only got the chance to skim the interview, but I'm pretty sure the answer to your query is: nothing.

moothemagiccow: You tards like this guy?


I will admit to a fair amount of jealousy, if that's what you're asking.
 
2014-05-02 06:36:33 PM  
I adore Bourdain. From what I heard when he was in NOLA he got wasted because he wasn't use to bars that don't close until dawn.  I'd sure as hell like to go eat/parrty with him.
 
2014-05-02 06:57:39 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: Gecko Gingrich: fusillade762: Is this the thread where we argue about the definition of the word "chef"?

I thought we were arguing verb tense.

In most cases the chef is the person who doesnt have to clean up after themselves... everyone else is a cook.

otherwise? they are the kitchen manager. you don't actually need in formal education to be called a chef in that regard. or any regard really


Yeah, its essentially just a title.  If you're the top dog in the kitchen at a 5-star restaurant or a hole in the wall, you're the "chef".

I know a lot of chefs- none of them really care about the title.  Its just something to put on a website next to their photo.

What they do care about (generally) is coming up with a good menu, and making sure people under them execute it properly.
 
2014-05-02 06:58:31 PM  

moothemagiccow: Jesus christ lighten the fark up. He's not a chef, the fark is he still complaining about? You tards like this guy?


Well, that was special.
 
2014-05-02 07:02:43 PM  

Swampmaster: Attention whore in pants; sad to say he is a jack ass, and smells like wet jackass rear end; and his complaints/ complaining are worse than donkey braying... "...and then from that point on I have been careful.  I've been very careful." No, you have run off at the mouth every time some one puts a mic or a newspad in front of you. No respect, and doesn't deserve the electrons this fark article are wasting on him.

PS: Started being a foodie back when Julie Childs started the genre, with Yan can Cook (Martin Yan) and the Galloping Gourmet ( Graham Kerr  ). Also liked Jacques Pépin. So, no the food network/food TV did not start with Bourdain, and certainly doesn't need his potty mouth.


I know, he's a very very bad man. Now would you take this doll and show me where he touched you?
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-05-02 07:10:03 PM  

NuttierThanEver: Only did line cook work for two years but I wholeheartedly agree


Bus Boy for 2 and Waiter for 2 in a Country Club. Brunch was the worst.

The years I spent as a cook weren't in a place that served brunch, but, it was its own small form of hell, but still worlds better than C.C. brunch.
 
2014-05-02 07:10:45 PM  

Phil Clinton: I haven't watched his new show on CNN but whenever I catch 'no reservations' on while I'm channel surfing I can usually be pretty sure I'm going to be entertained while learning some cool shiat about other cultures.


The new show has been pretty good.  This season seems to be more about the food again.  If you only watch one episode of the new show, check out the episode they filmed in Burma.  I think it was the first episode of the first season.  It was amazing.

You can stream it here:
http://www.cnn.com/video/shows/anthony-bourdain-parts-unknown/episod e1 /index.html

Also the Italy episode was funny as shiat, because the local celebrity chef pissed him off by faking catching octopus and whatnot, but throwing frozen fish into the ocean to "catch".  And they fully exposed him for doing that.
 
2014-05-02 07:18:00 PM  

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: Phil Clinton: I haven't watched his new show on CNN but whenever I catch 'no reservations' on while I'm channel surfing I can usually be pretty sure I'm going to be entertained while learning some cool shiat about other cultures.

The new show has been pretty good.  This season seems to be more about the food again.  If you only watch one episode of the new show, check out the episode they filmed in Burma.  I think it was the first episode of the first season.  It was amazing.

You can stream it here:
http://www.cnn.com/video/shows/anthony-bourdain-parts-unknown/episod e1 /index.html

Also the Italy episode was funny as shiat, because the local celebrity chef pissed him off by faking catching octopus and whatnot, but throwing frozen fish into the ocean to "catch".  And they fully exposed him for doing that.


That was epic.
 
2014-05-02 07:21:09 PM  

downstairs: lindalouwho: Once a chef always a chef, tho you may get out of the kitchen. It truely can be one of the Arts.

Gotta disagree.  I've been pretty damn good at a few arts, but have since abandoned them.  No way I could go back and be as good as I was in my 20s.  You certainly can lose your skills if you don't keep using them.


I don't know about that.  I have over 20 years experience.  I took 4 years off about 6 years ago, and when I went back, it was like I never missed a beat.  I'm out for good now, unless I can open up my own place.
 
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