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(The Raw Story)   Chief Justice of Alabama Supreme Court claims 1st Amendment only applies to Christians because there were no Korans on the Mayflower and Buddha didn't create America   (rawstory.com) divider line 69
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2014-05-02 01:16:28 PM  
10 votes:
Oh - and this little gem -

He later said that "you can't be happy unless you follow God's law, and if you follow God's law, you can't help but be happy."

I can honestly say, the most miserable people I've ever known were religious fundamentalists who were scrupulous about following their god's law.
2014-05-02 02:03:39 PM  
9 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: Magorn: Benevolent Misanthrope: Chief Justice Moore later defined "life" via Blackstone's Law - a book that American lawyers have "sadly forgotten" - as beginning when "the baby kicks." "Today," he said, "our courts say it's not alive 'til the head comes out."

"Now," he continued, "if technology's supposed to increase our knowledge, how did we become so stupid?" Discussing Thomas Jefferson's use of "life" in the Declaration of Independence, he said that "when [Jefferson] put 'life' in there, it was in the womb - we know it begins at conception. Why aren't we going the right way instead of the wrong way?"

So, which is it?  At conception, or when the baby kicks?  And how do you feel about science knowing that babies move before they kick - is this a gray area for you?  Some babies kick earlier than others - are you going to write a law that gives a time frame, or rely on the mother to accurately report the kicking?

In other words, You're an idiot.

So in other words he supports  Roe v.Wade. which held that during the first trimester,  no restrictions could be placed on abortions, and it was only until the second trimester (which is roughly when Blacktstone's "quickening" occurs) that the state could assert an interest in the life of the potential child

Well, that's the question.  On the one hand he says life begins at the quickening.  But then goes on to say it begins at conception.  I'm pretty sure he has no idea that these are different, though, so vote Republican.


Give Ray Moore Cedit for knowing anything is a stretch .  It really is a travesty that he's not only a judge but the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama.....that's almost unbelievable to me.

And on the list of things he knows jack shiat about add this:
"They didn't bring the Koran over on the pilgrim ship," he continued. "Let's get real, let's go back and learn our history. Let's stop playing games."

well, perhaps not on the   Mayflower itself but that was hardly the first group of colonists in America, and the Koran actually was a pretty common book in colonial times.  This one belonged to someone Ray Moore may recognize named Thomas Jefferson what with him  being a Founding Father and all:
bokertov.typepad.com

And these two have been here since 1683:
disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com
2014-05-02 01:14:38 PM  
7 votes:
Chief Justice Moore later defined "life" via Blackstone's Law - a book that American lawyers have "sadly forgotten" - as beginning when "the baby kicks." "Today," he said, "our courts say it's not alive 'til the head comes out."

"Now," he continued, "if technology's supposed to increase our knowledge, how did we become so stupid?" Discussing Thomas Jefferson's use of "life" in the Declaration of Independence, he said that "when [Jefferson] put 'life' in there, it was in the womb - we know it begins at conception. Why aren't we going the right way instead of the wrong way?"


So, which is it?  At conception, or when the baby kicks?  And how do you feel about science knowing that babies move before they kick - is this a gray area for you?  Some babies kick earlier than others - are you going to write a law that gives a time frame, or rely on the mother to accurately report the kicking?

In other words, You're an idiot.
2014-05-02 02:38:09 PM  
6 votes:
Is he even aware of why the Pilgrims left England in the first place?
2014-05-02 01:16:33 PM  
6 votes:
Roy Moore is a disgrace to the legal profession.

He's the judge who had the Ten Commandments put in front of his court, and had to be sued in order to have them removed.

He is, to put it bluntly, a clown who cares more about enforcing what he thinks is God's law than Man's law, which he swore an oath to uphold.
2014-05-02 01:15:49 PM  
6 votes:
FTFA: "Watch Chief Justice Roy Moore's entire speech below."

NOPE

But fark this guy. Maybe he should go re-read the Treaty of Tripoli. Also, the freaks on the Mayflower didn't form the nation either. It isn't like there weren't any people here already. fark the Puritans, they're terrible and the fact that people still reference their really stupid philosophies is a good part of what's holding this nation back in the modern world.
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-05-02 04:24:28 PM  
5 votes:
Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.


-Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom
2014-05-02 02:50:42 PM  
5 votes:
Evangelical Christianity is a cancer on society...
2014-05-02 01:13:11 PM  
5 votes:
Roy Moore is a farking idiot.
2014-05-02 02:52:58 PM  
4 votes:
The Christian Taliban.
2014-05-02 03:14:38 PM  
3 votes:

Waldo Pepper: Rincewind53: Roy Moore is a disgrace to the legal profession and to Christianity

He's the judge who had the Ten Commandments put in front of his court, and had to be sued in order to have them removed.

He is, to put it bluntly, a clown who cares more about enforcing what he thinks is God's law than Man's law, which he swore an oath to uphold.

FTFY

I Said: Ah right. I knew I recognized this asshats name

The really funny thing about the Ten Commandments statue (and to add weight to Waldo Pepper's FTFY correction to Rincewind53) is that it not only violates Separation of Church and State and the First Amendment Establishment Clause, but it even violates itself!

Specifically, Commandment #2 of the traditional list (from Genesis Chapter 20 [though that is not the list that the Bible itself actually calls "the Ten Commandments" but that's another rant], the list that the statue itself was of) states:
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven [engraved, carved, sculpted ― including by definition any and all statues!] image or any likeness of anything
that is in the heavens above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters under the earth. ...
Assuming that the Bible is literally true, the stone tablets of the Ten Commandments were placed in the Ark of the Covenant, which in turn was placed in the Holy of Holies in first the Tabernacle and then in Solomon's Temple. When Babylon conquered Jerusalem and took its people captive, they destroyed Solomon's Temple and the Ark of the Covenant was lost. Two subsequent Temples were built to replace the destroyed Solomon's Temple (the one at the time of Christ was Herod's Temple), but they lacked the Ark.

So what happened to the Ark of the Covenant? Well, maybe God took it up into Heaven. Or maybe, as a certain blockbuster movie implied a couple decades ago, it was hidden on or under the ground somewhere. Or maybe some Priests or Levites smuggled it out and onto a ship, which was later sunk at sea.

But all three of those possibilities are accounted for in the Second Commandment itself! Regardless of which of those three is correct, the Ark, and therefore the Stone Tablets of the Ten Commandments, are indeed included in "...anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters under the earth"! It's flatly forbidden to make any "graven" or otherwise image of anything in any of those places, according to the literal wording thereof!
2014-05-02 03:00:44 PM  
3 votes:
Roy Moore is Exhibit A in "Why Judges Should Not Be Elected".
2014-05-02 01:13:05 PM  
3 votes:
"Now," he continued, without a hint of irony, "if technology's supposed to increase our knowledge, how did we become so stupid?
2014-05-02 04:17:24 PM  
2 votes:

d23: Johnny_Whistle: Bathia_Mapes: Is he even aware of why the Pilgrims left England in the first place?

Because they couldn't force everyone in England to follow their puritanical rules?

Unfortunately that is mostly true.  They did seem to forget about the golden rule as soon as they stepped off the boat.


Dude, the puritans were such colossal assholes *the Dutch* got sick of their shiat and kicked them out.
2014-05-02 04:07:46 PM  
2 votes:
The whole life-begins-at-birth-abortion-is-evil is not based on Christianity.  The bible does not support that assertion.  God repeatedly calls for the wholesale slaughter of people, and even takes pains to mention killing infants.  Before the jewish trek of the desert, god tells them to count their numbers, excepting infants less than a month old.  They didn't count.  And for the final nail in that particular coffin, read Numbers 5.  Specifically, the latter two thirds, where, in the bible itself here, it gives you the instructions on how to perform an abortion.  On a woman presumed to be unfaithful.  By a priest.  In a church.  Think the while life VS choice debate is rooted in religion?  It isn't.  You are being lied to.
2014-05-02 03:51:40 PM  
2 votes:

d23: Lost Thought 00: This is a major reason why Alabama is always in a race to the bottom to be the worst state in the nation

Time for a new marketing slogan:

Alabama: Proud To Make Indiana Look Progressive By Comparison.


Alabama: Trying to out Arizona Mississippi.
2014-05-02 03:02:21 PM  
2 votes:
fark this asshole and fark the idiots that voted for him.
2014-05-02 03:02:05 PM  
2 votes:

TheShavingofOccam123: [judicial.alabama.gov image 516x387]

These kinds of statements are often cover for other more serious bigoted views. Looking at the court, I would think blacks in Alabama should be very afraid of being bigoted to death by mobs again.


Why?  Because they don't have a black person on the court?  I think one look at the SCOTUS would tell you, that's no guarantee of a respect for rights and freedoms...
2014-05-02 02:59:25 PM  
2 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Is he even aware of why the Pilgrims left England in the first place?


I'm guessing he thinks (as I was taught at my Baptist school) it's because god called them to, because they were being persecuted for their true faith, as Christians still are today.
2014-05-02 02:59:13 PM  
2 votes:
Oh man, Judge Roy Moore. This is the guy who raped that baby and said it was okay because of the Binding of Isaac.
2014-05-02 02:54:01 PM  
2 votes:
Christ, what an asshole.
2014-05-02 01:53:49 PM  
2 votes:

Magorn: Benevolent Misanthrope: Chief Justice Moore later defined "life" via Blackstone's Law - a book that American lawyers have "sadly forgotten" - as beginning when "the baby kicks." "Today," he said, "our courts say it's not alive 'til the head comes out."

"Now," he continued, "if technology's supposed to increase our knowledge, how did we become so stupid?" Discussing Thomas Jefferson's use of "life" in the Declaration of Independence, he said that "when [Jefferson] put 'life' in there, it was in the womb - we know it begins at conception. Why aren't we going the right way instead of the wrong way?"

So, which is it?  At conception, or when the baby kicks?  And how do you feel about science knowing that babies move before they kick - is this a gray area for you?  Some babies kick earlier than others - are you going to write a law that gives a time frame, or rely on the mother to accurately report the kicking?

In other words, You're an idiot.

So in other words he supports  Roe v.Wade. which held that during the first trimester,  no restrictions could be placed on abortions, and it was only until the second trimester (which is roughly when Blacktstone's "quickening" occurs) that the state could assert an interest in the life of the potential child


Well, that's the question.  On the one hand he says life begins at the quickening.  But then goes on to say it begins at conception.  I'm pretty sure he has no idea that these are different, though, so vote Republican.
2014-05-02 01:44:29 PM  
2 votes:
i knew it was roy moore before clicking. he is unfit to sit on the bench and should be impeached.
2014-05-02 01:18:37 PM  
2 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh - and this little gem -

He later said that "you can't be happy unless you follow God's law, and if you follow God's law, you can't help but be happy."

I can honestly say, the most miserable people I've ever known were religious fundamentalists who were scrupulous about following their god's law.


You've got to understand that their definition of "happy" is about as accurate as their definitions of "theory" and "thought" and "right" and "wrong." That is, their definition is as unrelated to reality as anything else they believe.
2014-05-02 01:17:37 PM  
2 votes:
Also, if I were ever a non-Christian who had to deal with a First Amendment challenge before him, I'd be kicking and screaming bloody murder if he refused to recuse himself.
2014-05-03 10:16:02 AM  
1 votes:

TV's Vinnie: Bathia_Mapes: Is he even aware of why the Pilgrims left England in the first place?

To hang people for witchcraft, obviously.


It has always seemed odd to me that both the Unitarians & the United Church of Christ have Puritan roots ( both are as far away from the 'Fundie crowd as one can get, IMHO).  Time changes all things, I guess....
2014-05-03 09:27:09 AM  
1 votes:

jaerik: And the more they double down on this line of rhetoric, they faster they bend the curve.  It's like a crack addict who needs more and more outrage to get the same high, and now they're at the point where the required dose is threatening to outright kill them.


Excellent analogy.

/ fundamentalist religions do share some traits with drug addiction, IMHO...
2014-05-03 07:46:02 AM  
1 votes:

techgeek07: Well let's see, the first Europeans over hear where either catholics or pagans (depending on the book you read).  Before them was the native americans.Therefore, by his reasoning, I'm willing to give credence to any of those three before this asshat.


Don't worry about who was first.  Catholics (French, Italians and Spaniards), what we now call Episcopalians, Dutch Reformists, Norse Pagans (we assume) and Native Americans all beat him to that historical punch, one way or another.  But as that gets covered in the first week of American History classes and then never discussed again, I understand how he missed it.

Someone needs to run a spirit horse through his office.  Preferably an unbroken one.
2014-05-03 02:35:01 AM  
1 votes:

kronicfeld: "Now," he continued, without a hint of irony, "if technology's supposed to increase our knowledge, how did we become so stupid?


Become?  That dude has always been so stupid.
2014-05-03 02:28:26 AM  
1 votes:
That nutbag needs to be removed from the bench.  Again.
2014-05-02 10:08:09 PM  
1 votes:
I'm still facepalming that this goosestepping butthole was voted back into power. WTF was Alabama thing? Was Alabama thinking, period??
2014-05-02 07:32:52 PM  
1 votes:
Having cooled off slightly...

Look, if you want to claim authority from a bunch of theocratic numbnuts who left Europe because they couldn't turn London OR Amsterdam into some sort of Puritanical Utopia, for goodness sakes don't be some idiot from Alabama.

As a judge might say, you have no standing whatsoever. For that matter, the Mayflower cadre was right up there with the Mormons in the anti-democracy crew.
2014-05-02 07:18:51 PM  
1 votes:
I recently scanned a document transcribed by a friend's family member that described the Mayflower Compact from someone who participated in creating it.

Most boring thing ever. Didn't have a lot to say about running a nation either. I'm willing to bet some drawling jackass from Alabama didn't have much to do with *anything* Mayflower related, unlike my libby-lib self with umpteen D.A.R. members in the family, but hey, what would I know?
2014-05-02 06:42:34 PM  
1 votes:

flondrix: Benevolent Misanthrope: This guy probably conflates the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence regularly as well.

So does Rolling Stone magazine, but at least they have drugs for an excuse.


And they're not Supreme Court justices, or even other elected officials.
2014-05-02 06:29:41 PM  
1 votes:

d23: Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.


-Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom


i232.photobucket.com
2014-05-02 06:22:47 PM  
1 votes:
"Mommy, why is everyone laughing at me?"

"Well, honey, you're stupid. I know we should have told you earlier, but the doctors said there might be a chance, and when it turned out it was chronic...well, we just couldn't face telling you the truth."
2014-05-02 06:18:33 PM  
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: This guy probably conflates the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence regularly as well.


So does Rolling Stone magazine, but at least they have drugs for an excuse.
2014-05-02 05:27:26 PM  
1 votes:
THIS IS WHAT AN "ACTIVIST JUDGE" ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE

/welcome to the new normal
2014-05-02 04:10:36 PM  
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Is he even aware of why the Pilgrims left England in the first place?


Because they wanted to go somewhere they could be intolerant to non-Puritans, and in England they weren't allowed to? Sounds exactly like his sort of people to be honest.
2014-05-02 03:59:28 PM  
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Is he even aware of why the Pilgrims left told to leave England in the first place?


FTFY
2014-05-02 03:52:08 PM  
1 votes:

azazyel: Muslims have been in the US since before it was the US.


Creeping sharia!
2014-05-02 03:51:06 PM  
1 votes:
I'm sure walktoanarcade will be in to tell is how the theocratic Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court is much less dangerous than a Muslim janitor in Dearborn.
2014-05-02 03:43:19 PM  
1 votes:

jaerik: If you want to win an election, then railing about "political correctness" is pretty much identical to railing against "the correct way to get elected."  That's why they call it that, dumbass.

You're trying to get a majority of people to vote for you.  To do that, you have to at least pretend like you represent them.  If they care about what you say, no matter if you think it's silly, proudly saying their feelings on the matter are meaningless and stupid and not actually problems is, indeed, not the correct way -- politically -- to get yourself elected.

It's the most amazingly self-defeating strategy I've ever seen.  It's like straight-up saying "You should vote for me because I don't think a majority of people should vote for me."  It only works if you think you can play one demographic off against ALL the others, and still have enough to win.  But then it becomes a numbers game, and these guys already lost the numbers game.  So now it's just stupid.


Unless, of course, "political correctness" means "not being able to publicly be a racist, sexist, or homophobe" in your district, in which case, it's likely to be a very good strategy indeed in certain districts.
2014-05-02 03:43:02 PM  
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Is he even aware of why the Pilgrims left England in the first place?


Because they couldn't force everyone in England to follow their puritanical rules?
2014-05-02 03:38:38 PM  
1 votes:

Rapmaster2000: [plasticbunnies.files.wordpress.com image 295x378]
I read this in the Hyper-chicken's voice:  "Now," he continued, "if technology's supposed to increase our knowledge, how did we become so stupid?"


After centuries of chicken farking, the GOP finally managed to reproduce with one.
2014-05-02 03:21:05 PM  
1 votes:

kronicfeld: "Now," he continued, without a hint of irony, "if technology's supposed to increase our knowledge, how did we become so stupid?


I'm amused. I bet he has a huge library of books. Encyclopedias, dictionaries, Law books. On and on. And yet how is he so stupid.

Owning a smartphone does not make one smart
Owning an encyclopedia does not make one encyclopedic.

/stupid sayings for 200, alex
2014-05-02 03:20:57 PM  
1 votes:
This is a major reason why Alabama is always in a race to the bottom to be the worst state in the nation
2014-05-02 03:20:00 PM  
1 votes:

wellreadneck: Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh - and this little gem -

He later said that "you can't be happy unless you follow God's law, and if you follow God's law, you can't help but be happy."

I can honestly say, the most miserable people I've ever known were religious fundamentalists who were scrupulous about following their god's law.

Miserable now, happy for all of eternity. That's the bargain.


Yep. "Hey, we are going to f*ck you over and rig this system against you. But hey, Heaven awaits. Don't get caught up in how we could make this country a bit better. We could probably improve your life. But don't worry your pretty little head about these big issues. Jesus is on your side and everything will be amazing when you die."

a bit jaded, but religion is a long con.
2014-05-02 03:18:28 PM  
1 votes:

Cheron: Elected judges is a solution to life time appointment


In much the same way that one solves a termite infestation by napalming one's house.
2014-05-02 03:15:42 PM  
1 votes:

jayhawk88: Karma Curmudgeon: Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh - and this little gem -

He later said that "you can't be happy unless you follow God's law, and if you follow God's law, you can't help but be happy."

Wonderful. As if the asshattery weren't enough, he has to toss in an earworm to boot.

"Clap along, if you feel, like stoning your neighbors who wear polyester while eating shrimp"


i1214.photobucket.com
2014-05-02 03:14:48 PM  
1 votes:

techgeek07: phenn: King Something: phenn: Mad Scientist: James!: Roy Moore is a farking idiot.

The bigger morans are the ones who keep electing him.

Was this an elected or appointed seat? Does Alabama have a recall or impeachment mechanism? If so, it might behoove them to use it.

Do you really think Alabama would want to get rid of this guy?

I've not spent a ton of time in Alabama and therefore won't pass judgment on the people who live there. That said, I cannot - for the farking life of me - imagine anyone in that state would be comfortable with a judge who doesn't even comprehend the Bill of Rights.

Scary shiat, if you ask me.

My ex fiance is from "LA".  That's lower Alabama.  Trust me, they'll be fine with it.


They'll even celebrate it.
2014-05-02 03:14:48 PM  
1 votes:
Elected judges is a solution to life time appointment
2014-05-02 03:13:43 PM  
1 votes:
According to this, a justice of the Alabama Supreme Court has to be licensed to practice law in Alabama.

http://www.sos.state.al.us/elections/minqualifications.aspx

Well, good luck disbarring him, Alabama. And we're all counting on you.
2014-05-02 03:07:56 PM  
1 votes:
"in the law, [talking about God] just isn't politically correct."

uh ... IANAL so correct me if I'm wrong, but unless it's a First Amendment or Article VI Constitutional question, talking about God in the law isn't legally correct, is it?

...he would be publishing a pamphlet "this week, maybe next" that contained copies of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution

$10 says his edition conveniently omits that last bit of Article VI
2014-05-02 03:06:38 PM  
1 votes:
I'd like to think this new level of loudness from these Christian Identity folks means that secularism is winning the day here in America, but I'm not holding my breath.
2014-05-02 03:06:32 PM  
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: Well, that's the question.  On the one hand he says life begins at the quickening.  But then goes on to say it begins at conception.  I'm pretty sure he has no idea that these are different, though, so vote Republican.


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2014-05-02 03:00:44 PM  
1 votes:
he would be publishing a pamphlet "this week, maybe next" that contained copies of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, thereby proving that all the people "who found this nation - black, white, all people, all religions, all faiths" knew that America was "about God."

Is this like the argument that gay people can marry anyone they want of the opposite gender, or that it's also illegal for millionaires to sleep under bridges? See? The law is equal for everyone!
2014-05-02 02:59:49 PM  
1 votes:

phenn: Mad Scientist: James!: Roy Moore is a farking idiot.

The bigger morans are the ones who keep electing him.

Was this an elected or appointed seat? Does Alabama have a recall or impeachment mechanism? If so, it might behoove them to use it.


Do you really think Alabama would want to get rid of this guy?
2014-05-02 02:58:59 PM  
1 votes:
NO

IT

DOESN'T
2014-05-02 02:58:38 PM  
1 votes:
judicial.alabama.gov

These kinds of statements are often cover for other more serious bigoted views. Looking at the court, I would think blacks in Alabama should be very afraid of being bigoted to death by mobs again.
2014-05-02 02:54:14 PM  
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Is he even aware of why the Pilgrims left England in the first place?


Because the Government cracked down on their religious leadership and threw them off the Island?
2014-05-02 02:53:11 PM  
1 votes:
QFTA:

Speaking at the Pastor for Life Luncheon, which was sponsored by Pro-Life Mississippi, Chief Justice Roy Moore of the Alabama Supreme Court declared that the First Amendment only applies to Christians because "Buddha didn't create us, Mohammed didn't create us, it was the God of the Holy Scriptures" who created us.
"They didn't bring the Koran over on the pilgrim ship," he continued. "Let's get real, let's go back and learn our history. Let's stop playing games."


Okay, Chief, I'll start stacking the wood, you go and get some heretics rounded up. Don't forget some matches.

/you know, you may not be able to remove the guy from the bench but you might be able to disbar him which might affect his qualification to serve as a judge.
/please disbar this guy if he does indeed belong to the bar of Alabama.
2014-05-02 02:50:51 PM  
1 votes:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

So this really means "Congress shall make no law respecting of an establishment of any non-Christian religion, or prohibiting the free exercise of Christianity."

War is peace.
Slavery is freedom.
Ignorance is strength.
2014-05-02 02:10:02 PM  
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh - and this little gem -

He later said that "you can't be happy unless you follow God's law, and if you follow God's law, you can't help but be happy."

I can honestly say, the most miserable people I've ever known were religious fundamentalists who were scrupulous about following their god's law.


I'm guessing there was quite a few crying jags in Rev. Ted Haggard's house, once the post-orgasmic bliss of snorting meth out of the crack of a rentboy's ass wore off.
2014-05-02 02:09:39 PM  
1 votes:

Magorn: Give Ray Moore Cedit for knowing anything is a stretch . It really is a travesty that he's not only a judge but the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama.....that's almost unbelievable to me.



Unfortunately, it's not that weird to me, being Alabama and what with the political/judicial situation being as it is in the US...  I do find it somewhat disturbing that he doesn't know the name of "the pilgrim ship", though.  This guy probably conflates the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence regularly as well.

Sad, really, what the judiciary is coming to.
2014-05-02 02:02:31 PM  
1 votes:
"They didn't bring the Koran over on the pilgrim ship"

He sounds smart.
2014-05-02 01:50:34 PM  
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: Chief Justice Moore later defined "life" via Blackstone's Law - a book that American lawyers have "sadly forgotten" - as beginning when "the baby kicks." "Today," he said, "our courts say it's not alive 'til the head comes out."

"Now," he continued, "if technology's supposed to increase our knowledge, how did we become so stupid?" Discussing Thomas Jefferson's use of "life" in the Declaration of Independence, he said that "when [Jefferson] put 'life' in there, it was in the womb - we know it begins at conception. Why aren't we going the right way instead of the wrong way?"

So, which is it?  At conception, or when the baby kicks?  And how do you feel about science knowing that babies move before they kick - is this a gray area for you?  Some babies kick earlier than others - are you going to write a law that gives a time frame, or rely on the mother to accurately report the kicking?

In other words, You're an idiot.


So in other words he supports  Roe v.Wade. which held that during the first trimester,  no restrictions could be placed on abortions, and it was only until the second trimester (which is roughly when Blacktstone's "quickening" occurs) that the state could assert an interest in the life of the potential child
2014-05-02 01:46:51 PM  
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Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh - and this little gem -

He later said that "you can't be happy unless you follow God's law, and if you follow God's law, you can't help but be happy."


Wonderful. As if the asshattery weren't enough, he has to toss in an earworm to boot.
2014-05-02 01:13:09 PM  
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Let's just ignore that whole "ALL men are created equal" part, shall we...
 
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