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2014-05-02 03:59:28 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Is he even aware of why the Pilgrims left told to leave England in the first place?


FTFY
 
2014-05-02 04:01:28 PM  

Obama's Reptiloid Master: phenn: Mad Scientist: James!: Roy Moore is a farking idiot.

The bigger morans are the ones who keep electing him.

Was this an elected or appointed seat? Does Alabama have a recall or impeachment mechanism? If so, it might behoove them to use it.

I think most Southern states allow election of state court judges (because how else will you keep the black  Poor man down?). Even if they do, you're forgetting something -- the citizens of Alabama keep electing this guy for a reason, and that reason is that a majority of them think like he does. He won't be ousted in a recall, and trying one can only damage and dispirit the progressive movement in Alabama.


FTFY
 
2014-05-02 04:04:51 PM  

jayhawk88: Karma Curmudgeon: Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh - and this little gem -

He later said that "you can't be happy unless you follow God's law, and if you follow God's law, you can't help but be happy."

Wonderful. As if the asshattery weren't enough, he has to toss in an earworm to boot.

"Clap along, if you feel, like stoning your neighbors who wear polyester while eating shrimp"


*clapclap clap, clapclap clap*
 
2014-05-02 04:07:46 PM  
The whole life-begins-at-birth-abortion-is-evil is not based on Christianity.  The bible does not support that assertion.  God repeatedly calls for the wholesale slaughter of people, and even takes pains to mention killing infants.  Before the jewish trek of the desert, god tells them to count their numbers, excepting infants less than a month old.  They didn't count.  And for the final nail in that particular coffin, read Numbers 5.  Specifically, the latter two thirds, where, in the bible itself here, it gives you the instructions on how to perform an abortion.  On a woman presumed to be unfaithful.  By a priest.  In a church.  Think the while life VS choice debate is rooted in religion?  It isn't.  You are being lied to.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-05-02 04:07:49 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: d23: quizzical: I wish that was enough to have him disbarred.

I wish there were people smart enough there to realize how much of an insult to the entire country that line of reasoning is.

Yes, I guess as long as he doesn't take any bribes or in other ways corrupt the legitimacy of the judicial system in this country, he should be free to be paid the public dime while publicly denigrating the laws he's sworn to interpret. And if he's done anything wrong, his God will forgive him in the end. The hell with the citizens whose lives he's helped trouble by using his office to add weight to the idea that non-Christians are fair game for bigot like him.


Yup... and remember, boys and girls, taking money from corporations isn't bribery, it's the free market!
 
2014-05-02 04:09:26 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Let's just ignore that whole "ALL men are created equal" part, shall we...


In fairness, America's founders did too.
 
2014-05-02 04:10:36 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Is he even aware of why the Pilgrims left England in the first place?


Because they wanted to go somewhere they could be intolerant to non-Puritans, and in England they weren't allowed to? Sounds exactly like his sort of people to be honest.
 
2014-05-02 04:17:24 PM  

d23: Johnny_Whistle: Bathia_Mapes: Is he even aware of why the Pilgrims left England in the first place?

Because they couldn't force everyone in England to follow their puritanical rules?

Unfortunately that is mostly true.  They did seem to forget about the golden rule as soon as they stepped off the boat.


Dude, the puritans were such colossal assholes *the Dutch* got sick of their shiat and kicked them out.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-05-02 04:24:28 PM  
Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.


-Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom
 
2014-05-02 04:24:59 PM  

phaseolus: "in the law, [talking about God] just isn't politically correct."

uh ... IANAL so correct me if I'm wrong, but unless it's a First Amendment or Article VI Constitutional question, talking about God in the law isn't legally correct, is it?

...he would be publishing a pamphlet "this week, maybe next" that contained copies of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution

$10 says his edition conveniently omits that last bit of Article VI


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2014-05-02 04:29:26 PM  

fruitloop: He later said that "you can't be happy unless you follow God's law, and if you follow God's law, you can't help but be happy."

Deut 22:28-29 (NIV) - If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver.  He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her.  He can never divorce her as long as he lives.


So sneaky Christian rape is the best rape. Got it.
 
2014-05-02 04:29:55 PM  

busy chillin': Yep. "Hey, we are going to f*ck you over and rig this system against you. But hey, Heaven awaits. Don't get caught up in how we could make this country a bit better. We could probably improve your life. But don't worry your pretty little head about these big issues. Jesus is on your side and everything will be amazing when you die."


Hollow threats and empty promises. What part of "dead" do they not understand?
 
2014-05-02 04:36:21 PM  
ftfa: Speaking at the Pastor for Life Luncheon, which was sponsored by Pro-Life Mississippi

Um don't high-ranking high-profile justices usually not attend partisan events?
 
2014-05-02 04:50:24 PM  
Wow.

He actually said that.

Their chief justice.
 
2014-05-02 05:14:35 PM  

sendtodave: Wow.

He actually said that.

Their chief justice.


When you genuinely believe in a religion, does that not inherently include the premise that it's the most important thing in the universe?  I try not to judge, but genuine religious convictions are kinda scary.
 
2014-05-02 05:18:51 PM  
Sadly I had a boss like this when I worked as a cook while in college. According to him the freedom of religion granted by the 1st Amendment only applies to Christians, and we just let the other religions worship freely here as a favor; but they do not have the constitutional right to do so.

Yeah total bullshiat but when you make too much sense they tend to talk over you and start making emotional arguments.
 
2014-05-02 05:27:26 PM  
THIS IS WHAT AN "ACTIVIST JUDGE" ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE

/welcome to the new normal
 
2014-05-02 06:00:13 PM  
I was born in Alabama and lived there for 25 years. There are times I miss it (football season and whenever we get 12+ inches of snow), but because of people like Roy Moore, I'm so glad I got the fark out!
 
2014-05-02 06:18:33 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: This guy probably conflates the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence regularly as well.


So does Rolling Stone magazine, but at least they have drugs for an excuse.
 
2014-05-02 06:22:47 PM  
"Mommy, why is everyone laughing at me?"

"Well, honey, you're stupid. I know we should have told you earlier, but the doctors said there might be a chance, and when it turned out it was chronic...well, we just couldn't face telling you the truth."
 
2014-05-02 06:29:41 PM  

d23: Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.


-Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom


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2014-05-02 06:42:34 PM  

flondrix: Benevolent Misanthrope: This guy probably conflates the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence regularly as well.

So does Rolling Stone magazine, but at least they have drugs for an excuse.


And they're not Supreme Court justices, or even other elected officials.
 
2014-05-02 06:54:33 PM  
Then let's see Jesus Christ's boarding pass on the Mayflower or his passport visa allowing Him
to enter the US.  If I remember correctly, He died on the cross more than 1500 years before the
Mayflower's voyage or the American Revolution - so the First Amendment can't apply to
Christians, either, by this goofball's logic.
 
2014-05-02 07:12:33 PM  
Not recalling any red-letter verses in the bible about Democracy in general either...

Come to think of it, I don't think there was anything about paying the salaries of SC judges.
 
2014-05-02 07:18:51 PM  
I recently scanned a document transcribed by a friend's family member that described the Mayflower Compact from someone who participated in creating it.

Most boring thing ever. Didn't have a lot to say about running a nation either. I'm willing to bet some drawling jackass from Alabama didn't have much to do with *anything* Mayflower related, unlike my libby-lib self with umpteen D.A.R. members in the family, but hey, what would I know?
 
2014-05-02 07:32:52 PM  
Having cooled off slightly...

Look, if you want to claim authority from a bunch of theocratic numbnuts who left Europe because they couldn't turn London OR Amsterdam into some sort of Puritanical Utopia, for goodness sakes don't be some idiot from Alabama.

As a judge might say, you have no standing whatsoever. For that matter, the Mayflower cadre was right up there with the Mormons in the anti-democracy crew.
 
2014-05-02 07:39:43 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: He's coming to Seattle, too

Lot of speaking engagements for a State Supreme Court Chief Justice. Wonder if he's going to run for something.


I am sickened that right now I am within 5 miles of Roy Moore.  Blargh.
 
2014-05-02 08:33:10 PM  
Please tell me that the impeachment/conviction process in AL is easy, quick, and well used! Ugh.
 
2014-05-02 08:38:18 PM  

phenn: King Something: phenn: Mad Scientist: James!: Roy Moore is a farking idiot.

The bigger morans are the ones who keep electing him.

Was this an elected or appointed seat? Does Alabama have a recall or impeachment mechanism? If so, it might behoove them to use it.

Do you really think Alabama would want to get rid of this guy?

I've not spent a ton of time in Alabama and therefore won't pass judgment on the people who live there. That said, I cannot - for the farking life of me - imagine anyone in that state would be comfortable with a judge who doesn't even comprehend the Bill of Rights.

Scary shiat, if you ask me.


As a resident of Alabama, I often don't get where all of the crazy people are who elect these whack jobs. Even the Republicans I know are not this right-wing.

But then again, there are people like my mechanic who always charges me a reasonable amount, but is also the kind of Teabagger comedians make fun of.
 
2014-05-02 09:01:30 PM  

thornhill: As a resident of Alabama, I often don't get where all of the crazy people are who elect these whack jobs.


The crazies are typically the only ones motivated enough to vote in something as seemingly unimportant as a judicial election.
 
2014-05-02 09:26:53 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh - and this little gem -

He later said that "you can't be happy unless you follow God's law, and if you follow God's law, you can't help but be happy."

I can honestly say, the most miserable people I've ever known were religious fundamentalists who were scrupulous about following their god's law.


Interesting. My experience has been exactly the opposite.
 
2014-05-02 10:08:09 PM  
I'm still facepalming that this goosestepping butthole was voted back into power. WTF was Alabama thing? Was Alabama thinking, period??
 
2014-05-02 10:09:17 PM  

cchris_39: Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh - and this little gem -

He later said that "you can't be happy unless you follow God's law, and if you follow God's law, you can't help but be happy."

I can honestly say, the most miserable people I've ever known were religious fundamentalists who were scrupulous about following their god's law.

Interesting. My experience has been exactly the opposite.


Interesting. The worst conservative troll rushes in and claims his fellow lunatics aren't that bad. Thanks!
 
2014-05-02 10:10:00 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Is he even aware of why the Pilgrims left England in the first place?


To hang people for witchcraft, obviously.
 
2014-05-02 10:34:16 PM  

thornhill: phenn: King Something: phenn: Mad Scientist: James!: Roy Moore is a farking idiot.

The bigger morans are the ones who keep electing him.

Was this an elected or appointed seat? Does Alabama have a recall or impeachment mechanism? If so, it might behoove them to use it.

Do you really think Alabama would want to get rid of this guy?

I've not spent a ton of time in Alabama and therefore won't pass judgment on the people who live there. That said, I cannot - for the farking life of me - imagine anyone in that state would be comfortable with a judge who doesn't even comprehend the Bill of Rights.

Scary shiat, if you ask me.

As a resident of Alabama, I often don't get where all of the crazy people are who elect these whack jobs. Even the Republicans I know are not this right-wing.

But then again, there are people like my mechanic who always charges me a reasonable amount, but is also the kind of Teabagger comedians make fun of.


In most elections in Alabama...you have a choice. Really Crazy Republican, Crazy Republican, And Old about to die Republican.
In the "Democratic" section of the you'll see lots of empty space.

Really, if you're from 'bama, Aside from from a few major cities and local elections; look at your ballot...in most races there are NO democrats opposing the seat.
 
2014-05-03 12:14:19 AM  
Strange.  I watched the speech, and at no point did he say, "the 1st Amendment only applies to Christians."
 
2014-05-03 12:20:01 AM  
I'm Catholic and I think he's an idiot. I wonder how he would feel about the Illinois Nazis.
 
2014-05-03 12:27:28 AM  
I wonder if anyone has ever informed him that the ten commandments were only for Jews?
 
2014-05-03 02:28:26 AM  
That nutbag needs to be removed from the bench.  Again.
 
2014-05-03 02:35:01 AM  

kronicfeld: "Now," he continued, without a hint of irony, "if technology's supposed to increase our knowledge, how did we become so stupid?


Become?  That dude has always been so stupid.
 
2014-05-03 03:05:58 AM  

BMFPitt: keylock71: Evangelical Christianity Religion  is a cancer on society...

FTFY


"Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."
- Steven Weinberg
 
2014-05-03 03:09:17 AM  
'It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are 20 gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.'
-Thomas Jefferson
 
2014-05-03 07:03:43 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: According to this, a justice of the Alabama Supreme Court has to be licensed to practice law in Alabama.

http://www.sos.state.al.us/elections/minqualifications.aspx

Well, good luck disbarring him, Alabama. And we're all counting on you.


Well, the bad news is that his term isn't up until 2018. The good news is that he can't run for another term since he'll be over seventy.
 
2014-05-03 07:46:02 AM  

techgeek07: Well let's see, the first Europeans over hear where either catholics or pagans (depending on the book you read).  Before them was the native americans.Therefore, by his reasoning, I'm willing to give credence to any of those three before this asshat.


Don't worry about who was first.  Catholics (French, Italians and Spaniards), what we now call Episcopalians, Dutch Reformists, Norse Pagans (we assume) and Native Americans all beat him to that historical punch, one way or another.  But as that gets covered in the first week of American History classes and then never discussed again, I understand how he missed it.

Someone needs to run a spirit horse through his office.  Preferably an unbroken one.
 
2014-05-03 08:48:51 AM  

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THAT IS BRILLIANT. 
Stolen for future use. The in-laws get mighty Jesusy.
 
2014-05-03 09:27:09 AM  

jaerik: And the more they double down on this line of rhetoric, they faster they bend the curve.  It's like a crack addict who needs more and more outrage to get the same high, and now they're at the point where the required dose is threatening to outright kill them.


Excellent analogy.

/ fundamentalist religions do share some traits with drug addiction, IMHO...
 
2014-05-03 10:16:02 AM  

TV's Vinnie: Bathia_Mapes: Is he even aware of why the Pilgrims left England in the first place?

To hang people for witchcraft, obviously.


It has always seemed odd to me that both the Unitarians & the United Church of Christ have Puritan roots ( both are as far away from the 'Fundie crowd as one can get, IMHO).  Time changes all things, I guess....
 
2014-05-03 10:43:55 AM  

Cheron: Elected judges is a solution to life time appointment


Squirm about this:  When he refused to take down the 10 Commandments statue, he was removed from office.  Then he ran for it again at the next election and was elected again with 52% of the vote.

He's their man, no question about it.
 
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