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2014-05-02 03:05:16 PM  
My blood is literally* boiling. This is f*cked up.

*okay okay. but figuratively boiling is boring!
 
2014-05-02 03:06:32 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Well, that's the question.  On the one hand he says life begins at the quickening.  But then goes on to say it begins at conception.  I'm pretty sure he has no idea that these are different, though, so vote Republican.


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2014-05-02 03:06:38 PM  
I'd like to think this new level of loudness from these Christian Identity folks means that secularism is winning the day here in America, but I'm not holding my breath.
 
2014-05-02 03:06:45 PM  
Well let's see, the first Europeans over hear where either catholics or pagans (depending on the book you read).  Before them was the native americans.Therefore, by his reasoning, I'm willing to give credence to any of those three before this asshat.
 
2014-05-02 03:07:52 PM  

King Something: phenn: Mad Scientist: James!: Roy Moore is a farking idiot.

The bigger morans are the ones who keep electing him.

Was this an elected or appointed seat? Does Alabama have a recall or impeachment mechanism? If so, it might behoove them to use it.

Do you really think Alabama would want to get rid of this guy?


I've not spent a ton of time in Alabama and therefore won't pass judgment on the people who live there. That said, I cannot - for the farking life of me - imagine anyone in that state would be comfortable with a judge who doesn't even comprehend the Bill of Rights.

Scary shiat, if you ask me.
 
2014-05-02 03:07:56 PM  
"in the law, [talking about God] just isn't politically correct."

uh ... IANAL so correct me if I'm wrong, but unless it's a First Amendment or Article VI Constitutional question, talking about God in the law isn't legally correct, is it?

...he would be publishing a pamphlet "this week, maybe next" that contained copies of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution

$10 says his edition conveniently omits that last bit of Article VI
 
2014-05-02 03:09:28 PM  

phenn: King Something: phenn: Mad Scientist: James!: Roy Moore is a farking idiot.

The bigger morans are the ones who keep electing him.

Was this an elected or appointed seat? Does Alabama have a recall or impeachment mechanism? If so, it might behoove them to use it.

Do you really think Alabama would want to get rid of this guy?

I've not spent a ton of time in Alabama and therefore won't pass judgment on the people who live there. That said, I cannot - for the farking life of me - imagine anyone in that state would be comfortable with a judge who doesn't even comprehend the Bill of Rights.

Scary shiat, if you ask me.


They're comfortable with him because they're morans. Trust me on this.
 
2014-05-02 03:09:53 PM  

meat0918: I'd like to think this new level of loudness from these Christian Identity folks means that secularism is winning the day here in America, but I'm not holding my breath.


It looks just like the civil rights movement. Same bigoted idiots kicking and fighting to the death to remain bigots.
 
2014-05-02 03:09:55 PM  
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I read this in the Hyper-chicken's voice:  "Now," he continued, "if technology's supposed to increase our knowledge, how did we become so stupid?"
 
2014-05-02 03:10:32 PM  

mediablitz: More proof Christians are persecuted in this nation.


They've got it worse than the Jews in the Holocaust.  The Jews only had to hide themselves or be put in camps and killed; the good Christians of the US are forced to abstain from school led prayer, forced to endure people of other faiths not wishing them Merry Christmas, and they aren't even allowed to persecute the homosexuals.
 
2014-05-02 03:10:49 PM  

phenn: King Something: phenn: Mad Scientist: James!: Roy Moore is a farking idiot.

The bigger morans are the ones who keep electing him.

Was this an elected or appointed seat? Does Alabama have a recall or impeachment mechanism? If so, it might behoove them to use it.

Do you really think Alabama would want to get rid of this guy?

I've not spent a ton of time in Alabama and therefore won't pass judgment on the people who live there. That said, I cannot - for the farking life of me - imagine anyone in that state would be comfortable with a judge who doesn't even comprehend the Bill of Rights.

Scary shiat, if you ask me.


My ex fiance is from "LA".  That's lower Alabama.  Trust me, they'll be fine with it.
 
2014-05-02 03:13:19 PM  

Karma Curmudgeon: Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh - and this little gem -

He later said that "you can't be happy unless you follow God's law, and if you follow God's law, you can't help but be happy."

Wonderful. As if the asshattery weren't enough, he has to toss in an earworm to boot.


"Clap along, if you feel, like stoning your neighbors who wear polyester while eating shrimp"
 
2014-05-02 03:13:43 PM  
According to this, a justice of the Alabama Supreme Court has to be licensed to practice law in Alabama.

http://www.sos.state.al.us/elections/minqualifications.aspx

Well, good luck disbarring him, Alabama. And we're all counting on you.
 
2014-05-02 03:14:38 PM  

Waldo Pepper: Rincewind53: Roy Moore is a disgrace to the legal profession and to Christianity

He's the judge who had the Ten Commandments put in front of his court, and had to be sued in order to have them removed.

He is, to put it bluntly, a clown who cares more about enforcing what he thinks is God's law than Man's law, which he swore an oath to uphold.

FTFY

I Said: Ah right. I knew I recognized this asshats name

The really funny thing about the Ten Commandments statue (and to add weight to Waldo Pepper's FTFY correction to Rincewind53) is that it not only violates Separation of Church and State and the First Amendment Establishment Clause, but it even violates itself!

Specifically, Commandment #2 of the traditional list (from Genesis Chapter 20 [though that is not the list that the Bible itself actually calls "the Ten Commandments" but that's another rant], the list that the statue itself was of) states:
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven [engraved, carved, sculpted ― including by definition any and all statues!] image or any likeness of anything
that is in the heavens above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters under the earth. ...
Assuming that the Bible is literally true, the stone tablets of the Ten Commandments were placed in the Ark of the Covenant, which in turn was placed in the Holy of Holies in first the Tabernacle and then in Solomon's Temple. When Babylon conquered Jerusalem and took its people captive, they destroyed Solomon's Temple and the Ark of the Covenant was lost. Two subsequent Temples were built to replace the destroyed Solomon's Temple (the one at the time of Christ was Herod's Temple), but they lacked the Ark.

So what happened to the Ark of the Covenant? Well, maybe God took it up into Heaven. Or maybe, as a certain blockbuster movie implied a couple decades ago, it was hidden on or under the ground somewhere. Or maybe some Priests or Levites smuggled it out and onto a ship, which was later sunk at sea.

But all three of those possibilities are accounted for in the Second Commandment itself! Regardless of which of those three is correct, the Ark, and therefore the Stone Tablets of the Ten Commandments, are indeed included in "...anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters under the earth"! It's flatly forbidden to make any "graven" or otherwise image of anything in any of those places, according to the literal wording thereof!
 
2014-05-02 03:14:48 PM  
Elected judges is a solution to life time appointment
 
2014-05-02 03:14:48 PM  

techgeek07: phenn: King Something: phenn: Mad Scientist: James!: Roy Moore is a farking idiot.

The bigger morans are the ones who keep electing him.

Was this an elected or appointed seat? Does Alabama have a recall or impeachment mechanism? If so, it might behoove them to use it.

Do you really think Alabama would want to get rid of this guy?

I've not spent a ton of time in Alabama and therefore won't pass judgment on the people who live there. That said, I cannot - for the farking life of me - imagine anyone in that state would be comfortable with a judge who doesn't even comprehend the Bill of Rights.

Scary shiat, if you ask me.

My ex fiance is from "LA".  That's lower Alabama.  Trust me, they'll be fine with it.


They'll even celebrate it.
 
2014-05-02 03:15:01 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh - and this little gem -

He later said that "you can't be happy unless you follow God's law, and if you follow God's law, you can't help but be happy."

I can honestly say, the most miserable people I've ever known were religious fundamentalists who were scrupulous about following their god's law.


Miserable now, happy for all of eternity. That's the bargain.
 
2014-05-02 03:15:34 PM  
"They didn't bring the Koran over on the pilgrim ship," he continued. "Let's get real, let's go back and learn our history. Let's stop playing games."

What? Is the Irony tag broken or something?
 
2014-05-02 03:15:42 PM  

jayhawk88: Karma Curmudgeon: Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh - and this little gem -

He later said that "you can't be happy unless you follow God's law, and if you follow God's law, you can't help but be happy."

Wonderful. As if the asshattery weren't enough, he has to toss in an earworm to boot.

"Clap along, if you feel, like stoning your neighbors who wear polyester while eating shrimp"


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2014-05-02 03:16:21 PM  

Krymson Tyde: phenn: King Something: phenn: Mad Scientist: James!: Roy Moore is a farking idiot.

The bigger morans are the ones who keep electing him.

Was this an elected or appointed seat? Does Alabama have a recall or impeachment mechanism? If so, it might behoove them to use it.

Do you really think Alabama would want to get rid of this guy?

I've not spent a ton of time in Alabama and therefore won't pass judgment on the people who live there. That said, I cannot - for the farking life of me - imagine anyone in that state would be comfortable with a judge who doesn't even comprehend the Bill of Rights.

Scary shiat, if you ask me.

They're comfortable with him because they're morans. Trust me on this.


My wife spent two weeks in Anniston, Alabama for work last month. She can confirm.
 
2014-05-02 03:17:26 PM  

kronicfeld: "Now," he continued, without a hint of irony, "if technology's supposed to increase our knowledge, how did we become so stupid?


God, I thought you were joking. I'd given up on the article before coming across THIS gem.
 
2014-05-02 03:18:08 PM  

keylock71: Evangelical Christianity

Religion  is a cancer on society...

FTFY
 
2014-05-02 03:18:28 PM  

Cheron: Elected judges is a solution to life time appointment


In much the same way that one solves a termite infestation by napalming one's house.
 
2014-05-02 03:19:09 PM  
The dumbest person I've ever worked with moved to Alabama and is happy as shiat to live there.
 
2014-05-02 03:20:00 PM  

wellreadneck: Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh - and this little gem -

He later said that "you can't be happy unless you follow God's law, and if you follow God's law, you can't help but be happy."

I can honestly say, the most miserable people I've ever known were religious fundamentalists who were scrupulous about following their god's law.

Miserable now, happy for all of eternity. That's the bargain.


Yep. "Hey, we are going to f*ck you over and rig this system against you. But hey, Heaven awaits. Don't get caught up in how we could make this country a bit better. We could probably improve your life. But don't worry your pretty little head about these big issues. Jesus is on your side and everything will be amazing when you die."

a bit jaded, but religion is a long con.
 
2014-05-02 03:20:57 PM  
This is a major reason why Alabama is always in a race to the bottom to be the worst state in the nation
 
2014-05-02 03:21:05 PM  

kronicfeld: "Now," he continued, without a hint of irony, "if technology's supposed to increase our knowledge, how did we become so stupid?


I'm amused. I bet he has a huge library of books. Encyclopedias, dictionaries, Law books. On and on. And yet how is he so stupid.

Owning a smartphone does not make one smart
Owning an encyclopedia does not make one encyclopedic.

/stupid sayings for 200, alex
 
2014-05-02 03:22:10 PM  
And okay okay, many Christians do seem to be good people, but these vocal ones (Political people no less) that have twisted the message of love and compassion into hate and division piss me off. And pretty much ruin the whole thing for me.

/namaste
 
2014-05-02 03:26:53 PM  

busy chillin': And okay okay, many Christians do seem to be good people, but these vocal ones (Political people no less) that have twisted the message of love and compassion into hate and division piss me off. And pretty much ruin the whole thing for me.

/namaste


Agreed.  Good things can come from religion if it's taught correctly.  Though I consider myself a reformed catholic, I will say that my priests were good and taught compassion for all.
 
2014-05-02 03:27:57 PM  
I wish that was enough to have him disbarred.
 
2014-05-02 03:29:25 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: TheShavingofOccam123: [judicial.alabama.gov image 516x387]

These kinds of statements are often cover for other more serious bigoted views. Looking at the court, I would think blacks in Alabama should be very afraid of being bigoted to death by mobs again.

Why?  Because they don't have a black person on the court?  I think one look at the SCOTUS would tell you, that's no guarantee of a respect for rights and freedoms...


Justice Wise is kinda hot.
 
2014-05-02 03:35:37 PM  

Rincewind53: Also, if I were ever a non-Christian who had to deal with a First Amendment challenge before him, I'd be kicking and screaming bloody murder if he refused to recuse himself.


typical Musselmann, always with the kicking, screaming and the murder!

Bob Robert: This article is so awesome! It made my Friday.

The best part:

Discussing Thomas Jefferson's use of "life" in the Declaration of Independence, he said that "when [Jefferson] put 'life' in there, it was in the womb - we know it begins at conception.


and take your miscegenist "President" with you!
 
2014-05-02 03:37:26 PM  
If you want to win an election, then railing about "political correctness" is pretty much identical to railing against "the correct way to get elected."  That's why they call it that, dumbass.

You're trying to get a majority of people to vote for you.  To do that, you have to at least pretend like you represent them.  If they care about what you say, no matter if you think it's silly, proudly saying their feelings on the matter are meaningless and stupid and not actually problems is, indeed, not the correct way -- politically -- to get yourself elected.

It's the most amazingly self-defeating strategy I've ever seen.  It's like straight-up saying "You should vote for me because I don't think a majority of people should vote for me."  It only works if you think you can play one demographic off against ALL the others, and still have enough to win.  But then it becomes a numbers game, and these guys already lost the numbers game.  So now it's just stupid.
 
2014-05-02 03:38:38 PM  

Rapmaster2000: [plasticbunnies.files.wordpress.com image 295x378]
I read this in the Hyper-chicken's voice:  "Now," he continued, "if technology's supposed to increase our knowledge, how did we become so stupid?"


After centuries of chicken farking, the GOP finally managed to reproduce with one.
 
2014-05-02 03:40:43 PM  

UncomfortableSilence: After centuries of chicken farking, the GOP finally managed to reproduce with one.


You kind sir are a literary genius.
 
2014-05-02 03:42:10 PM  
Wow.  Time to hit reset on the country.  It's all over.
 
2014-05-02 03:43:02 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Is he even aware of why the Pilgrims left England in the first place?


Because they couldn't force everyone in England to follow their puritanical rules?
 
2014-05-02 03:43:19 PM  

jaerik: If you want to win an election, then railing about "political correctness" is pretty much identical to railing against "the correct way to get elected."  That's why they call it that, dumbass.

You're trying to get a majority of people to vote for you.  To do that, you have to at least pretend like you represent them.  If they care about what you say, no matter if you think it's silly, proudly saying their feelings on the matter are meaningless and stupid and not actually problems is, indeed, not the correct way -- politically -- to get yourself elected.

It's the most amazingly self-defeating strategy I've ever seen.  It's like straight-up saying "You should vote for me because I don't think a majority of people should vote for me."  It only works if you think you can play one demographic off against ALL the others, and still have enough to win.  But then it becomes a numbers game, and these guys already lost the numbers game.  So now it's just stupid.


Unless, of course, "political correctness" means "not being able to publicly be a racist, sexist, or homophobe" in your district, in which case, it's likely to be a very good strategy indeed in certain districts.
 
2014-05-02 03:43:41 PM  

quizzical: I wish that was enough to have him disbarred.


I wish there were people smart enough there to realize how much of an insult to the entire country that line of reasoning is.
 
2014-05-02 03:44:22 PM  

Johnny_Whistle: Bathia_Mapes: Is he even aware of why the Pilgrims left England in the first place?

Because they couldn't force everyone in England to follow their puritanical rules?


Unfortunately that is mostly true.  They did seem to forget about the golden rule as soon as they stepped off the boat.
 
2014-05-02 03:45:27 PM  

Lost Thought 00: This is a major reason why Alabama is always in a race to the bottom to be the worst state in the nation


Time for a new marketing slogan:

Alabama: Proud To Make Indiana Look Progressive By Comparison.
 
2014-05-02 03:46:50 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: [judicial.alabama.gov image 516x387]

These kinds of statements are often cover for other more serious bigoted views. Looking at the court, I would think blacks in Alabama should be very afraid of being bigoted to death by mobs again.


What are you talking about? That's a perfect cross-section of Alabama......seen through the eyes of a typical Alabamian.
 
2014-05-02 03:47:17 PM  

techgeek07: phenn: King Something: phenn: Mad Scientist: James!: Roy Moore is a farking idiot.

The bigger morans are the ones who keep electing him.

Was this an elected or appointed seat? Does Alabama have a recall or impeachment mechanism? If so, it might behoove them to use it.

Do you really think Alabama would want to get rid of this guy?

I've not spent a ton of time in Alabama and therefore won't pass judgment on the people who live there. That said, I cannot - for the farking life of me - imagine anyone in that state would be comfortable with a judge who doesn't even comprehend the Bill of Rights.

Scary shiat, if you ask me.

My ex fiance is from "LA".  That's lower Alabama.  Trust me, they'll be fine with it.


The next part of that joke is UCLA stands for "upper corner, lower Alabama".

But yeah. It's Alabama. No way I would ever live there again.
 
2014-05-02 03:49:04 PM  
Muslims have been in the US since before it was the US.
 
2014-05-02 03:51:06 PM  
I'm sure walktoanarcade will be in to tell is how the theocratic Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court is much less dangerous than a Muslim janitor in Dearborn.
 
2014-05-02 03:51:40 PM  

d23: Lost Thought 00: This is a major reason why Alabama is always in a race to the bottom to be the worst state in the nation

Time for a new marketing slogan:

Alabama: Proud To Make Indiana Look Progressive By Comparison.


Alabama: Trying to out Arizona Mississippi.
 
2014-05-02 03:52:08 PM  

azazyel: Muslims have been in the US since before it was the US.


Creeping sharia!
 
2014-05-02 03:56:12 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: jaerik: If you want to win an election, then railing about "political correctness" is pretty much identical to railing against "the correct way to get elected."  That's why they call it that, dumbass.

You're trying to get a majority of people to vote for you.  To do that, you have to at least pretend like you represent them.  If they care about what you say, no matter if you think it's silly, proudly saying their feelings on the matter are meaningless and stupid and not actually problems is, indeed, not the correct way -- politically -- to get yourself elected.

It's the most amazingly self-defeating strategy I've ever seen.  It's like straight-up saying "You should vote for me because I don't think a majority of people should vote for me."  It only works if you think you can play one demographic off against ALL the others, and still have enough to win.  But then it becomes a numbers game, and these guys already lost the numbers game.  So now it's just stupid.

Unless, of course, "political correctness" means "not being able to publicly be a racist, sexist, or homophobe" in your district, in which case, it's likely to be a very good strategy indeed in certain districts.


Absolutely, but that's why I said it becomes a numbers game.  Sure, you'll win your district, but you'll never win nationally.  And eventually, you won't even win your district if the demographic trends are against you -- which they are virtually everywhere right now.

And the more they double down on this line of rhetoric, they faster they bend the curve.  It's like a crack addict who needs more and more outrage to get the same high, and now they're at the point where the required dose is threatening to outright kill them.
 
2014-05-02 03:58:18 PM  

d23: quizzical: I wish that was enough to have him disbarred.

I wish there were people smart enough there to realize how much of an insult to the entire country that line of reasoning is.


Yes, I guess as long as he doesn't take any bribes or in other ways corrupt the legitimacy of the judicial system in this country, he should be free to be paid the public dime while publicly denigrating the laws he's sworn to interpret. And if he's done anything wrong, his God will forgive him in the end. The hell with the citizens whose lives he's helped trouble by using his office to add weight to the idea that non-Christians are fair game for bigot like him.
 
2014-05-02 03:59:28 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Is he even aware of why the Pilgrims left told to leave England in the first place?


FTFY
 
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