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(The Raw Story)   Chief Justice of Alabama Supreme Court claims 1st Amendment only applies to Christians because there were no Korans on the Mayflower and Buddha didn't create America   (rawstory.com) divider line 148
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2014-05-02 01:09:47 PM  
I actually graduated high school with this clowns wife.
 
2014-05-02 01:13:05 PM  
"Now," he continued, without a hint of irony, "if technology's supposed to increase our knowledge, how did we become so stupid?
 
2014-05-02 01:13:09 PM  
Let's just ignore that whole "ALL men are created equal" part, shall we...
 
2014-05-02 01:13:11 PM  
Roy Moore is a farking idiot.
 
2014-05-02 01:14:38 PM  
Chief Justice Moore later defined "life" via Blackstone's Law - a book that American lawyers have "sadly forgotten" - as beginning when "the baby kicks." "Today," he said, "our courts say it's not alive 'til the head comes out."

"Now," he continued, "if technology's supposed to increase our knowledge, how did we become so stupid?" Discussing Thomas Jefferson's use of "life" in the Declaration of Independence, he said that "when [Jefferson] put 'life' in there, it was in the womb - we know it begins at conception. Why aren't we going the right way instead of the wrong way?"


So, which is it?  At conception, or when the baby kicks?  And how do you feel about science knowing that babies move before they kick - is this a gray area for you?  Some babies kick earlier than others - are you going to write a law that gives a time frame, or rely on the mother to accurately report the kicking?

In other words, You're an idiot.
 
2014-05-02 01:15:49 PM  
FTFA: "Watch Chief Justice Roy Moore's entire speech below."

NOPE

But fark this guy. Maybe he should go re-read the Treaty of Tripoli. Also, the freaks on the Mayflower didn't form the nation either. It isn't like there weren't any people here already. fark the Puritans, they're terrible and the fact that people still reference their really stupid philosophies is a good part of what's holding this nation back in the modern world.
 
2014-05-02 01:16:28 PM  
Oh - and this little gem -

He later said that "you can't be happy unless you follow God's law, and if you follow God's law, you can't help but be happy."

I can honestly say, the most miserable people I've ever known were religious fundamentalists who were scrupulous about following their god's law.
 
2014-05-02 01:16:33 PM  
Roy Moore is a disgrace to the legal profession.

He's the judge who had the Ten Commandments put in front of his court, and had to be sued in order to have them removed.

He is, to put it bluntly, a clown who cares more about enforcing what he thinks is God's law than Man's law, which he swore an oath to uphold.
 
2014-05-02 01:17:37 PM  
Also, if I were ever a non-Christian who had to deal with a First Amendment challenge before him, I'd be kicking and screaming bloody murder if he refused to recuse himself.
 
2014-05-02 01:18:37 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh - and this little gem -

He later said that "you can't be happy unless you follow God's law, and if you follow God's law, you can't help but be happy."

I can honestly say, the most miserable people I've ever known were religious fundamentalists who were scrupulous about following their god's law.


You've got to understand that their definition of "happy" is about as accurate as their definitions of "theory" and "thought" and "right" and "wrong." That is, their definition is as unrelated to reality as anything else they believe.
 
2014-05-02 01:43:29 PM  

Rincewind53: Roy Moore is a disgrace to the legal profession.

He's the judge who had the Ten Commandments put in front of his court, and had to be sued in order to have them removed.

He is, to put it bluntly, a clown who cares more about enforcing what he thinks is God's law than Man's law, which he swore an oath to uphold.


Ah right. I knew I recognized this asshats name
 
2014-05-02 01:44:29 PM  
i knew it was roy moore before clicking. he is unfit to sit on the bench and should be impeached.
 
2014-05-02 01:45:35 PM  
forum.maplewoodonline.com
 
2014-05-02 01:46:51 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh - and this little gem -

He later said that "you can't be happy unless you follow God's law, and if you follow God's law, you can't help but be happy."


Wonderful. As if the asshattery weren't enough, he has to toss in an earworm to boot.
 
2014-05-02 01:50:34 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Chief Justice Moore later defined "life" via Blackstone's Law - a book that American lawyers have "sadly forgotten" - as beginning when "the baby kicks." "Today," he said, "our courts say it's not alive 'til the head comes out."

"Now," he continued, "if technology's supposed to increase our knowledge, how did we become so stupid?" Discussing Thomas Jefferson's use of "life" in the Declaration of Independence, he said that "when [Jefferson] put 'life' in there, it was in the womb - we know it begins at conception. Why aren't we going the right way instead of the wrong way?"

So, which is it?  At conception, or when the baby kicks?  And how do you feel about science knowing that babies move before they kick - is this a gray area for you?  Some babies kick earlier than others - are you going to write a law that gives a time frame, or rely on the mother to accurately report the kicking?

In other words, You're an idiot.


So in other words he supports  Roe v.Wade. which held that during the first trimester,  no restrictions could be placed on abortions, and it was only until the second trimester (which is roughly when Blacktstone's "quickening" occurs) that the state could assert an interest in the life of the potential child
 
2014-05-02 01:53:49 PM  

Magorn: Benevolent Misanthrope: Chief Justice Moore later defined "life" via Blackstone's Law - a book that American lawyers have "sadly forgotten" - as beginning when "the baby kicks." "Today," he said, "our courts say it's not alive 'til the head comes out."

"Now," he continued, "if technology's supposed to increase our knowledge, how did we become so stupid?" Discussing Thomas Jefferson's use of "life" in the Declaration of Independence, he said that "when [Jefferson] put 'life' in there, it was in the womb - we know it begins at conception. Why aren't we going the right way instead of the wrong way?"

So, which is it?  At conception, or when the baby kicks?  And how do you feel about science knowing that babies move before they kick - is this a gray area for you?  Some babies kick earlier than others - are you going to write a law that gives a time frame, or rely on the mother to accurately report the kicking?

In other words, You're an idiot.

So in other words he supports  Roe v.Wade. which held that during the first trimester,  no restrictions could be placed on abortions, and it was only until the second trimester (which is roughly when Blacktstone's "quickening" occurs) that the state could assert an interest in the life of the potential child


Well, that's the question.  On the one hand he says life begins at the quickening.  But then goes on to say it begins at conception.  I'm pretty sure he has no idea that these are different, though, so vote Republican.
 
2014-05-02 02:02:31 PM  
"They didn't bring the Koran over on the pilgrim ship"

He sounds smart.
 
2014-05-02 02:03:39 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Magorn: Benevolent Misanthrope: Chief Justice Moore later defined "life" via Blackstone's Law - a book that American lawyers have "sadly forgotten" - as beginning when "the baby kicks." "Today," he said, "our courts say it's not alive 'til the head comes out."

"Now," he continued, "if technology's supposed to increase our knowledge, how did we become so stupid?" Discussing Thomas Jefferson's use of "life" in the Declaration of Independence, he said that "when [Jefferson] put 'life' in there, it was in the womb - we know it begins at conception. Why aren't we going the right way instead of the wrong way?"

So, which is it?  At conception, or when the baby kicks?  And how do you feel about science knowing that babies move before they kick - is this a gray area for you?  Some babies kick earlier than others - are you going to write a law that gives a time frame, or rely on the mother to accurately report the kicking?

In other words, You're an idiot.

So in other words he supports  Roe v.Wade. which held that during the first trimester,  no restrictions could be placed on abortions, and it was only until the second trimester (which is roughly when Blacktstone's "quickening" occurs) that the state could assert an interest in the life of the potential child

Well, that's the question.  On the one hand he says life begins at the quickening.  But then goes on to say it begins at conception.  I'm pretty sure he has no idea that these are different, though, so vote Republican.


Give Ray Moore Cedit for knowing anything is a stretch .  It really is a travesty that he's not only a judge but the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama.....that's almost unbelievable to me.

And on the list of things he knows jack shiat about add this:
"They didn't bring the Koran over on the pilgrim ship," he continued. "Let's get real, let's go back and learn our history. Let's stop playing games."

well, perhaps not on the   Mayflower itself but that was hardly the first group of colonists in America, and the Koran actually was a pretty common book in colonial times.  This one belonged to someone Ray Moore may recognize named Thomas Jefferson what with him  being a Founding Father and all:
bokertov.typepad.com

And these two have been here since 1683:
disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2014-05-02 02:09:39 PM  

Magorn: Give Ray Moore Cedit for knowing anything is a stretch . It really is a travesty that he's not only a judge but the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama.....that's almost unbelievable to me.



Unfortunately, it's not that weird to me, being Alabama and what with the political/judicial situation being as it is in the US...  I do find it somewhat disturbing that he doesn't know the name of "the pilgrim ship", though.  This guy probably conflates the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence regularly as well.

Sad, really, what the judiciary is coming to.
 
2014-05-02 02:10:02 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh - and this little gem -

He later said that "you can't be happy unless you follow God's law, and if you follow God's law, you can't help but be happy."

I can honestly say, the most miserable people I've ever known were religious fundamentalists who were scrupulous about following their god's law.


I'm guessing there was quite a few crying jags in Rev. Ted Haggard's house, once the post-orgasmic bliss of snorting meth out of the crack of a rentboy's ass wore off.
 
2014-05-02 02:30:28 PM  
With the current group of Supreme Court Justices, they may have the five to sustain this.
 
2014-05-02 02:35:44 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh - and this little gem -

He later said that "you can't be happy unless you follow God's law, and if you follow God's law, you can't help but be happy."



Cliven Bundy was RIGHT! (Too big for Fark)
 
2014-05-02 02:38:09 PM  
Is he even aware of why the Pilgrims left England in the first place?
 
2014-05-02 02:50:42 PM  
Evangelical Christianity is a cancer on society...
 
2014-05-02 02:50:51 PM  
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

So this really means "Congress shall make no law respecting of an establishment of any non-Christian religion, or prohibiting the free exercise of Christianity."

War is peace.
Slavery is freedom.
Ignorance is strength.
 
2014-05-02 02:52:58 PM  
The Christian Taliban.
 
2014-05-02 02:53:00 PM  

James!: Roy Moore is a farking idiot.


The bigger morans are the ones who keep electing him.
 
2014-05-02 02:53:11 PM  
QFTA:

Speaking at the Pastor for Life Luncheon, which was sponsored by Pro-Life Mississippi, Chief Justice Roy Moore of the Alabama Supreme Court declared that the First Amendment only applies to Christians because "Buddha didn't create us, Mohammed didn't create us, it was the God of the Holy Scriptures" who created us.
"They didn't bring the Koran over on the pilgrim ship," he continued. "Let's get real, let's go back and learn our history. Let's stop playing games."


Okay, Chief, I'll start stacking the wood, you go and get some heretics rounded up. Don't forget some matches.

/you know, you may not be able to remove the guy from the bench but you might be able to disbar him which might affect his qualification to serve as a judge.
/please disbar this guy if he does indeed belong to the bar of Alabama.
 
2014-05-02 02:54:01 PM  
Christ, what an asshole.
 
2014-05-02 02:54:14 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Is he even aware of why the Pilgrims left England in the first place?


Because the Government cracked down on their religious leadership and threw them off the Island?
 
2014-05-02 02:55:16 PM  

Rincewind53: Roy Moore is a disgrace to the legal profession and to Christianity

He's the judge who had the Ten Commandments put in front of his court, and had to be sued in order to have them removed.

He is, to put it bluntly, a clown who cares more about enforcing what he thinks is God's law than Man's law, which he swore an oath to uphold.


FTFY
 
2014-05-02 02:55:37 PM  
"Let's get real, let's go back and learn our history."

Yes, Dumas. Let's.
/Ctrl+F for "Christian" in Bill of Rights gave 0 results. Weird.
 
2014-05-02 02:55:39 PM  
Why can't you stupid libby libs accept that our made up nonsense is more real than their made up nonsense?
 
2014-05-02 02:57:10 PM  

Mad Scientist: James!: Roy Moore is a farking idiot.

The bigger morans are the ones who keep electing him.


Was this an elected or appointed seat? Does Alabama have a recall or impeachment mechanism? If so, it might behoove them to use it.
 
2014-05-02 02:58:38 PM  
judicial.alabama.gov

These kinds of statements are often cover for other more serious bigoted views. Looking at the court, I would think blacks in Alabama should be very afraid of being bigoted to death by mobs again.
 
2014-05-02 02:58:59 PM  
NO

IT

DOESN'T
 
2014-05-02 02:58:59 PM  

phenn: Mad Scientist: James!: Roy Moore is a farking idiot.

The bigger morans are the ones who keep electing him.

Was this an elected or appointed seat? Does Alabama have a recall or impeachment mechanism? If so, it might behoove them to use it.


I think most Southern states allow election of state court judges (because how else will you keep the black man down?). Even if they do, you're forgetting something -- the citizens of Alabama keep electing this guy for a reason, and that reason is that a majority of them think like he does. He won't be ousted in a recall, and trying one can only damage and dispirit the progressive movement in Alabama.
 
2014-05-02 02:59:13 PM  
Oh man, Judge Roy Moore. This is the guy who raped that baby and said it was okay because of the Binding of Isaac.
 
2014-05-02 02:59:25 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Is he even aware of why the Pilgrims left England in the first place?


I'm guessing he thinks (as I was taught at my Baptist school) it's because god called them to, because they were being persecuted for their true faith, as Christians still are today.
 
2014-05-02 02:59:49 PM  

phenn: Mad Scientist: James!: Roy Moore is a farking idiot.

The bigger morans are the ones who keep electing him.

Was this an elected or appointed seat? Does Alabama have a recall or impeachment mechanism? If so, it might behoove them to use it.


Do you really think Alabama would want to get rid of this guy?
 
2014-05-02 02:59:59 PM  
He later said that "you can't be happy unless you follow God's law, and if you follow God's law, you can't help but be happy."

Deut 22:28-29 (NIV) - If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver.  He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her.  He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

Hooray God's law!  Everybody's happy!
 
2014-05-02 03:00:04 PM  
This article is so awesome! It made my Friday.

The best part:

Discussing Thomas Jefferson's use of "life" in the Declaration of Independence, he said that "when [Jefferson] put 'life' in there, it was in the womb - we know it begins at conception.
 
2014-05-02 03:00:23 PM  
He's coming to Seattle, too

Lot of speaking engagements for a State Supreme Court Chief Justice. Wonder if he's going to run for something.
 
2014-05-02 03:00:27 PM  
just farking secede already!
 
2014-05-02 03:00:39 PM  

dr_blasto: FTFA: "Watch Chief Justice Roy Moore's entire speech below."

NOPE

But fark this guy. Maybe he should go re-read the Treaty of Tripoli. Also, the freaks on the Mayflower didn't form the nation either. It isn't like there weren't any people here already. fark the Puritans, they're terrible and the fact that people still reference their really stupid philosophies is a good part of what's holding this nation back in the modern world.


*standing slow clap*
 
2014-05-02 03:00:44 PM  
he would be publishing a pamphlet "this week, maybe next" that contained copies of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, thereby proving that all the people "who found this nation - black, white, all people, all religions, all faiths" knew that America was "about God."

Is this like the argument that gay people can marry anyone they want of the opposite gender, or that it's also illegal for millionaires to sleep under bridges? See? The law is equal for everyone!
 
2014-05-02 03:00:44 PM  
Roy Moore is Exhibit A in "Why Judges Should Not Be Elected".
 
2014-05-02 03:01:27 PM  
If he's an elected judge in AL you will NEVER unseat him. Probably not if he's appointed either, not unless you can prove some seriously heinous crime he's committed.
 
2014-05-02 03:02:05 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: [judicial.alabama.gov image 516x387]

These kinds of statements are often cover for other more serious bigoted views. Looking at the court, I would think blacks in Alabama should be very afraid of being bigoted to death by mobs again.


Why?  Because they don't have a black person on the court?  I think one look at the SCOTUS would tell you, that's no guarantee of a respect for rights and freedoms...
 
2014-05-02 03:02:21 PM  
fark this asshole and fark the idiots that voted for him.
 
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