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(BBC-US)   Jeremy Clarkson forced to apologize for something offensive he said. This is not a repeat of every time he's opened his mouth   (bbc.com) divider line 93
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2014-05-02 08:58:39 AM
www.peoplespharmacy.com

And the Brazil Nut Growers Association still goes unsatisfied.

/father used to call them that all time
//irritated the shiat out of me
///probably why he did it
 
2014-05-02 09:13:36 AM

Diogenes: [www.peoplespharmacy.com image 300x200]

And the Brazil Nut Growers Association still goes unsatisfied.

/father used to call them that all time
//irritated the shiat out of me
///probably why he did it


Your father called them Brazil nuts, in all likelihood, because they are called "Brazil nuts".
 
2014-05-02 09:16:09 AM
Oh FFS.... it was a popular rhyme used by millions of kids for years. Can we please have some perspective here and look at things in context?

No? OK, well carry on being outraged then.
 
2014-05-02 09:19:49 AM

Marcus Aurelius: Diogenes: [www.peoplespharmacy.com image 300x200]

And the Brazil Nut Growers Association still goes unsatisfied.

/father used to call them that all time
//irritated the shiat out of me
///probably why he did it

Your father called them Brazil nuts, in all likelihood, because they are called "Brazil nuts".


Eddie Adams from Torrance: Oh FFS.... it was a popular rhyme used by millions of kids for years. Can we please have some perspective here and look at things in context?

No? OK, well carry on being outraged then.


You guys think it's OK to use the term "Successful and Attractive African American toes" to your kids?
 
2014-05-02 09:20:12 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Oh FFS.... it was a popular rhyme used by millions of kids for years. Can we please have some perspective here and look at things in context?

No? OK, well carry on being outraged then.


This is the same country that the phrase "nanny state" was invented for.  They gasp if you so much as fart in the men's room, I kid you not.
 
2014-05-02 09:21:55 AM
The article sort of glosses over a fact lost on most Americans: in the UK, the chant doesn't go "Eenie-meenie-minee-moe/Catch a *tiger* by its toe."

There goes my childhood innocence.

/Now I'm left wondering what exactly an "Ocka-bocka soda crocka" is.
 
2014-05-02 09:24:00 AM

Diogenes: You guys think it's OK to use the term "Successful and Attractive African American toes" to your kids?


That would depend on the context, and whether the child is old enough to know what "kitchen talk" means.  But rude nursery rhymes are typically not perpetuated by adults, Jeremy Clarkson being the apparent exception.
 
2014-05-02 09:24:40 AM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The article sort of glosses over a fact lost on most Americans: in the UK, the chant doesn't go "Eenie-meenie-minee-moe/Catch a *tiger* by its toe."

There goes my childhood innocence.

/Now I'm left wondering what exactly an "Ocka-bocka soda crocka" is.


You have to go to the linked article.  When I read the primary article I was scratching my head and saying "What's wrong with 'Neeny?'"
 
2014-05-02 09:33:45 AM

Diogenes: You guys think it's OK to use the term "Successful and Attractive African American toes" to your kids?


Clarkson wasn't talking to my kids. He made the comment on a TV show targeted towards adults.
Any kid that's watching Top Gear is probably old enough to have heard the dreaded "N-WORD!11" plenty of times.

It's not like he was watching Lionel Ritchie in the reasonably priced car and exclaimed "Wow... look at that n***er go!"
 
2014-05-02 09:43:56 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Diogenes: You guys think it's OK to use the term "Successful and Attractive African American toes" to your kids?

Clarkson wasn't talking to my kids. He made the comment on a TV show targeted towards adults.
Any kid that's watching Top Gear is probably old enough to have heard the dreaded "N-WORD!11" plenty of times.

It's not like he was watching Lionel Ritchie in the reasonably priced car and exclaimed "Wow... look at that n***er go!"


Well, and I know I wasn't entirely clear about this, I was referring to saying the original rhyme to your own kids.  But in any case, difference of opinion.  Use of the word is OK in certain contexts (racial humor that makes fun of the racist and not the race - ala Blazing Saddles or All In The Family).  This was not the case here.
 
2014-05-02 09:53:30 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Diogenes: You guys think it's OK to use the term "Successful and Attractive African American toes" to your kids?

Clarkson wasn't talking to my kids. He made the comment on a TV show targeted towards adults.
Any kid that's watching Top Gear is probably old enough to have heard the dreaded "N-WORD!11" plenty of times.

It's not like he was watching Lionel Ritchie in the reasonably priced car and exclaimed "Wow... look at that n***er go!"


I would pay good money to see that.
 
2014-05-02 10:00:56 AM
Last one to the nut store is a vegetarian!
 
2014-05-02 10:01:38 AM

Diogenes: You guys think it's OK to use the term "Successful and Attractive African American toes" to your kids?


I had no idea that term only applied to African Americans. What do they call the African British? (is that even anything?)
 
2014-05-02 10:04:43 AM
I dug Clarkson's work on Fringe; personally I still think Abrams should have cast in as Jim Kirk instead of Chris Pine.
/let's see whose had coffee this Friday morning
 
2014-05-02 10:04:44 AM
Can't we all just accept the fact that Jeremy Clarkson is a giant twat? He readily admits it himself.
 
2014-05-02 10:09:55 AM

Dreyelle: Diogenes: You guys think it's OK to use the term "Successful and Attractive African American toes" to your kids?

I had no idea that term only applied to African Americans. What do they call the African British? (is that even anything?)


They call them 'British'. Does the race really need to be specified?
 
2014-05-02 10:11:42 AM
CSB:
For his generation in Europe it wasn't considered a huge curse word, like it is here in the US.  My mother is French, approximately the same age as Clarkson.  Pretty much any African or SW Asian/middle eastern could be described as that.  She has an early edition copy of Agatha Christie's "Ten Little Indians."  Except the it wasn't called "Ten Little Indians" back then.
 
2014-05-02 10:11:43 AM

phimuskapsi: Dreyelle: Diogenes: You guys think it's OK to use the term "Successful and Attractive African American toes" to your kids?

I had no idea that term only applied to African Americans. What do they call the African British? (is that even anything?)

They call them 'British'. Does the race really need to be specified?


OMG - are you both unaware of the Fark filters?
 
2014-05-02 10:12:45 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Oh FFS.... it was a popular rhyme used by millions of kids for years. Can we please have some perspective here and look at things in context?


Right. Because what better context is there for using the N-word than in a review for two Japanese cars on a British motoring show...

And popularity doesn't make it right nor is "because it's been that way in the past" ever a valid excuse on its own. For anything.

He was just being an asshole because he's an asshole and he got yelled at for it this time because he was being too MUCH of an asshole. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.
 
2014-05-02 10:14:48 AM
This sounds like Clarkson being Clarkson...except in this instance, even he didn't like where it was going, hence the three takes.

This also sounds like someone out in Britain's holding a bit of a grudge...

/Seriously?  An outtake?  It would be one thing if it aired...but it was a goddamn outtake.
//My guess is someone wanted to have their own Donald Sterling moment.
 
2014-05-02 10:17:24 AM

Dreyelle: I had no idea that term only applied to African Americans. What do they call the African British? (is that even anything?)


"Black".  We don't have anything as retarded as "African American".

/Learned the rhyme as been "tigger" in the UK, wondered what Winnie the Pooh had to do with it, but didn't question
 
2014-05-02 10:17:50 AM

Diogenes: phimuskapsi: Dreyelle: Diogenes: You guys think it's OK to use the term "Successful and Attractive African American toes" to your kids?

I had no idea that term only applied to African Americans. What do they call the African British? (is that even anything?)

They call them 'British'. Does the race really need to be specified?

OMG - are you both unaware of the Fark filters?


Wat?
 
2014-05-02 10:20:44 AM

phimuskapsi: Wat?


Precisely.
 
2014-05-02 10:22:45 AM

Clutch2013: This sounds like Clarkson being Clarkson...except in this instance, even he didn't like where it was going, hence the three takes.

This also sounds like someone out in Britain's holding a bit of a grudge...

/Seriously?  An outtake?  It would be one thing if it aired...but it was a goddamn outtake.
//My guess is someone wanted to have their own Donald Sterling moment.


yeah, it sounds like they set it up as a 'clarkson almost says it, then doesn't because that rhyme is now considered offensive' and after trying it, they all just felt it was not appropriate and scrapped the entire thing. years later, someone digs it up from the cutting room floor and makes a big stink out of it
 
2014-05-02 10:25:10 AM
He probably still has this on his bookshelf.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-05-02 10:25:14 AM

oldfarthenry: Can't we all just accept the fact that Jeremy Clarkson is a giant twat? He readily admits it himself.


He punched Piers Morgan. That built a lot of pre-forgiveness for future twaterry

/2 "r's" in twaterry?
 
2014-05-02 10:25:48 AM

Dreyelle: Diogenes: You guys think it's OK to use the term "Successful and Attractive African American toes" to your kids?

I had no idea that term only applied to African Americans. What do they call the African British? (is that even anything?)


They call them "darkies".
 
2014-05-02 10:28:29 AM
I dont care if he killed a man in a drunken binge

I dont go to my entertainers for moral guidance, i go to them for entertainment.

I like clarkson's offensive self right on top gear where he belongs

/dont give a shiat about mel gibson drama either
//only thing im outraged about is all this feigned outrage
 
2014-05-02 10:30:13 AM

Diogenes: And the Brazil Nut Growers Association still goes unsatisfied.

/father used to call them that all time
//irritated the shiat out of me
///probably why he did it


I don't get this at all, is supposed to be racist?
 
2014-05-02 10:30:42 AM
CSB:  I have a first edition print of Little Black Sambo.

I'm thinking of donating it to a museum or school or something.
 
2014-05-02 10:31:01 AM
Where was the outrage for this?

i521.photobucket.com

Oh that's right, everyone knows it's satirical and somewhat true.

But overall this fake outrage is just

i521.photobucket.com
 
2014-05-02 10:31:56 AM

steamingpile: Diogenes: And the Brazil Nut Growers Association still goes unsatisfied.

/father used to call them that all time
//irritated the shiat out of me
///probably why he did it

I don't get this at all, is supposed to be racist?


My father used to call them n*gger toes - as also used in the original rhyme.  Many people did/do.
 
2014-05-02 10:33:40 AM

steamingpile: Diogenes: And the Brazil Nut Growers Association still goes unsatisfied.

/father used to call them that all time
//irritated the shiat out of me
///probably why he did it

I don't get this at all, is supposed to be racist?


"N*gger Nut"

The racist folk in my family (read: 99.9% of them) called 'em that.

/There's one (more [atop the mountain pile]) reason I don't attend family reunions.
 
2014-05-02 10:34:29 AM
Note to self:  Use Tiger next time...

\Of course, that is offensive to Asians.
 
2014-05-02 10:36:41 AM

Clutch2013: This sounds like Clarkson being Clarkson...except in this instance, even he didn't like where it was going, hence the three takes.

This also sounds like someone out in Britain's holding a bit of a grudge...

/Seriously?  An outtake?  It would be one thing if it aired...but it was a goddamn outtake.
//My guess is someone wanted to have their own Donald Sterling moment.


Three takes, and it's an alternate take that was never intended to be aired whatsoever.

However, it's the most successful and watched television program...in the world.

And Clarkson is one of the producers and owns a large stake in it, IIRC.

He isn't going to be removed.

Like James May said, he's a colossal bellend, but I don't believe he's a racist.
 
2014-05-02 10:36:45 AM

Diogenes: steamingpile: Diogenes: And the Brazil Nut Growers Association still goes unsatisfied.

/father used to call them that all time
//irritated the shiat out of me
///probably why he did it

I don't get this at all, is supposed to be racist?

My father used to call them n*gger toes - as also used in the original rhyme.  Many people did/do.


I had no clue this was a racial slur at all, you'd think I would have growing up in the south, unless stereotypes are not absolute.

Most racist people I knew lived in the backwoods of Florida and there's a lot of that in Florida.
 
2014-05-02 10:38:09 AM

Marcus Aurelius: Dreyelle: Diogenes: You guys think it's OK to use the term "Successful and Attractive African American toes" to your kids?

I had no idea that term only applied to African Americans. What do they call the African British? (is that even anything?)

They call them "darkies".


img.fark.net
 
2014-05-02 10:38:18 AM

logieal: Where was the outrage for this?

[i521.photobucket.com image 850x478]

Oh that's right, everyone knows it's satirical and somewhat true.

But overall this fake outrage is just

[i521.photobucket.com image 400x226]


My favorite:
realitypod.com
 
2014-05-02 10:41:04 AM

Diogenes: phimuskapsi: Wat?

Precisely.


But Attractive and Successful African American takes so long to type. If there was a shorthand, something quick, no more than six or seven letters, I could type and Fark would just know to type Attractive and Successful African Americans.

Might be a bad habit once you hit other sites though.
 
2014-05-02 10:42:06 AM

steamingpile: Diogenes: steamingpile: Diogenes: And the Brazil Nut Growers Association still goes unsatisfied.

/father used to call them that all time
//irritated the shiat out of me
///probably why he did it

I don't get this at all, is supposed to be racist?

My father used to call them n*gger toes - as also used in the original rhyme.  Many people did/do.

I had no clue this was a racial slur at all, you'd think I would have growing up in the south, unless stereotypes are not absolute.

Most racist people I knew lived in the backwoods of Florida and there's a lot of that in Florida.


Well, my father was a guinea from NJ, and you know what they're like.

;-)
 
2014-05-02 10:42:10 AM
A history of life ruining by society:

20AD - Being a blasphemer - uttering Yahweh/Jehovah/God within ear shot of someone would get you publicly stoned to death (if I'm to believe Monty Python - by women dressed as men)

1692 - Being accused of witchcraft - your choices were drowning or being burned at the stake. If you died, then you were acquitted.

1950 - Being accused of being a communist - McCarthyism meant if you were labeled a "red" you would be out of a job and good luck finding another one. You'd basically be publicly shunned out of existence.

2014 - Being accused of racism - if you speak one of the forbidden words, in any context, you no longer belong in society and deserve to die in a fire.
 
2014-05-02 10:43:46 AM

GRCooper: He punched Piers Morgan. That built a lot of pre-forgiveness for future twaterry


www.topgearbox.com

Eddie Adams from Torrance: It's not like he was watching Lionel Ritchie in the reasonably priced car and exclaimed "Wow... look at that n***er go!"


Or "Holy crap, the tire just came off that n*****s car!"
 
2014-05-02 11:02:24 AM
Clarkson Top Gear favorite episode:  Biathlon with automatic weapons.

/serious asthmatic episode induced by laughing
 
2014-05-02 11:07:44 AM
Boss at the shop I used to work ordered Golli pens for general sale. We didn't have many black customers, but when one did come in and saw the pens, I got to watch her explain to this black woman that they're acceptable now since they drop the w*g from the name. That was a fun day.

The number of older customers that loved those tatty pens, though... there's a real nostalgia for the doll, which is difficult to understand if you're younger. There doesn't seem to be any nastiness about it.
 
2014-05-02 11:10:10 AM

Marcus Aurelius: But rude nursery rhymes are typically not perpetuated by adults, Jeremy Clarkson being the apparent exception.


Clarkson is many things. An adult is not one of them.
 
2014-05-02 11:12:55 AM
I have no problem imagining Mr. Clarkson going out to lash the wogs.
 
2014-05-02 11:17:44 AM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The article sort of glosses over a fact lost on most Americans: in the UK, the chant doesn't go "Eenie-meenie-minee-moe/Catch a *tiger* by its toe."

There goes my childhood innocence.

/Now I'm left wondering what exactly an "Ocka-bocka soda crocka" is.


My father had a black Lab called "Niger" in the 1930s. Should he not have done that? In his defence, he was a little kid and a quarter of the planet was owned by his homeland of Great Britain.

/different age.
 
2014-05-02 11:20:17 AM

SonsoftheSod: The number of older customers that loved those tatty pens, though... there's a real nostalgia for the doll, which is difficult to understand if you're younger. There doesn't seem to be any nastiness about it.


Hell, I had a golliwog as a kid, and I'm mid-30s.  It was an inherited toy I think, and to me it was just a doll that happened to be black, no big.  Didn't know the word was offensive for a long time, either, it just sounds like one of those nonsense names kids' toys have.  Like my Wurzel Gummage doll.

I was rather surprised on reaching adulthood to find out it was such a taboo thing.
 
2014-05-02 11:23:31 AM
Remember, in the UK you can still advertise "Seeking attractive young woman for front desk receptionist." For all their civilization they can be a bit forthright.
 
2014-05-02 11:25:07 AM

Valiente: My father had a black Lab called "Niger" in the 1930s


Was your dad ultimately a member of the 617 Squadron?
 
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