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(The New York Observer)   Rex Reed's spoiler-filled review of The Amazing Spider-Man 2, a film that is a "retread of tired material in a franchise more than ready for the big comic book bonfire; there is nothing amazing about it"   (observer.com) divider line 129
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2014-05-02 06:48:01 AM
Trailer:

"Why are you covered in dirt?"

"I was cleaning the chimney!"

"We don't have a chimney."

"Whaaa-???"


Gave up RIGHT there...
 
2014-05-02 07:56:39 AM
They need to let Spider-Man's rights revert to Marvel/Disney so he can be integrated into their cinematic universe.
 
2014-05-02 08:12:46 AM

gopher321: Trailer:

"Why are you covered in dirt?"

"I was cleaning the chimney!"

"We don't have a chimney."

"Whaaa-???"


Gave up RIGHT there...


Peter used to be smart.
 
2014-05-02 08:46:54 AM

ManateeGag: Peter used to be smart.


Girls aged 12-20 don't swoon over "smart".  Because focus groups.
 
2014-05-02 08:51:39 AM
Rex Reed is still alive?
 
2014-05-02 08:52:45 AM
Let spidey back in to the expanded universe and make all future spider man movies in the mold of Marvel Team Up.
 
2014-05-02 08:55:29 AM

kronicfeld: They need to let Spider-Man's rights revert to Marvel/Disney so he can be integrated into their cinematic universe.


They need to let Emma Stone be integrated into my pants.
 
2014-05-02 08:55:32 AM
Message to all who will complain about the movie in this thread: you'll all see it, they'll get your money, that's all they care about

Proceed
 
2014-05-02 08:58:11 AM

natural316: Message to all who will complain about the movie in this thread: you'll all see it, they'll get your money, that's all they care about

Proceed


Poo to that. If it ain't Batman, I don't get out of bed.

Having said that, Heisenberg vs. Godzilla is definitely on my to-do list. In red ink.
 
2014-05-02 08:58:33 AM

natural316: Message to all who will complain about the movie in this thread: you'll all see it, they'll get your money, that's all they care about

Proceed


I saw the first one on a bus. It was lame even for a bus movie.
 
2014-05-02 08:59:25 AM

natural316: Message to all who will complain about the movie in this thread: you'll all see it, they'll get your money, that's all they care about

Proceed


In spite of how much of a Spider Man fan I was as a kid, the last Spider Man movie I've seen was the 2002 film, and it wasn't in the theater.  I found it disappointing.
 
2014-05-02 09:00:41 AM
That review wasn't nearly as spoiler-iffic as it could have been.  But he was actually kind giving it two stars out of four.  It felt like the worst parts of Spider-man 3 combined with the worst parts of Batman and Robin.  Hell, for a while there Electro looked just like Schwarzenegger as Mr. Freeze.

It doesn't hold a candle to the worst film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

And don't concern yourself with the mid-credits stuff.  It's literally a badly edited commercial with a payoff shot you've already seen.
 
2014-05-02 09:02:33 AM

natural316: Message to all who will complain about the movie in this thread: you'll all see it, they'll get your money, that's all they care about

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Saw it for free.  Am I allowed to post, master?

Also, get bent.
 
2014-05-02 09:03:32 AM
I'll do what i did for all of the other Spiderman movies, wait for it to hit cable.

Nothing about the movies/characters is worth me leaving the house for.
 
2014-05-02 09:05:08 AM
Marvel, take Spider-man back, please.  There was some cool stuff, but my 11-year-old daughter (who loves Spider-man) fell asleep through the exhausting teen romance bits.  My younger daughter, "Ugh, so much kissing.  It's supposed to be Spider-man!"   Whereas I was just wondering why we wandered so far off into sub-plot territory for no pay-off, when the pay-off was sitting right there and could have been interesting.

General spoilers:


I enjoyed Electro, though I think some scenes were cut that the character needed.  What little there is of Goblin is bad and unnecessary.  Rhino was also bad and unnecessary.  Garfield does a good as Peter Parker, but the whole thing is just targeted at the pop-culture teens, some of his dialogue - do teens really think they talk like that?  And the big not-a-surprise-for-any-Spidey-fan climax could easily have held off to another movie for greater impact.

Spidey has never looked so good swinging through the city though, so that was fun.  The suit is good.  I like that you can still tell it is Garfield in the suit by mannerism and movement.  Aunt May is wasted, and should never be wasted.

Okay, biggest pet-peeve - I think the entire movie was sound-scored to dub-step.  !Dramatic Moment![BWAAAAAGH]  Waht?
 
2014-05-02 09:06:07 AM
My son wants to see it. I am telling him wait till Redbox because I can't in good faith waste money on Spiderman in the theater. I even explained the whole if no one goes to see it, it MAY get bought back by Disney. He kind of gets that. I basically said, you want a movie like Lego Marvel on PS3? Then we wait. And he even hated the last one too.
 
2014-05-02 09:06:59 AM
So the av club said it was refreshingly different from the original trilogy.

I've got a feeling people will try to find excuses to not like this movie.

That being said, it might still be a bad movie. I don't know yet
 
2014-05-02 09:13:45 AM
i have heard from a co-worker who went to see it last night that this movie was not good...incohesive, trite, teen-romancy, etc.

i won't be seeing it, and i didn't see the first amazing spiderman...simply because for me it's too soon...tobey is still spidey/peter parker to me, and kirsten, whether she was actually good in the role or not, is still the wet-shirt-in-the-rain, drooooool...er i mean maryjane to me.
 
2014-05-02 09:17:02 AM

scarmig: Okay, biggest pet-peeve - I think the entire movie was sound-scored to dub-step.  !Dramatic Moment![BWAAAAAGH]  Waht?


I think that was just Electro's scenes.  Because electro is close to dubstep, right?  I think the worst bit was when Electro started playing "The Itsy Bitsy Spider" like a tesla coil.

Also, did you see it in 2D or 3D?  I thought the swinging around stuff looked awful in 2D, but I assumed it was because it was intended for 3D.  It felt like they were trying too hard to overcompensate for the f-stop or two you lose because of the 3D glasses.  Or maybe the costume was just too dang red.
 
2014-05-02 09:24:35 AM
I don't generally give much "film taste" credence to anyone whose major movie credit is "Myra Breckenridge". It's just a rule of mine.

That said, I'm far more revved about the fact that "Under the Skin" is opening in my local art theatre today. Artsy sci-fi with a naked Scarlett Johansson. Yee-ha!
 
2014-05-02 09:31:29 AM
I saw it in 2d, but i agree it was intended for 3d.  Also the theater where I was had the volume turned *down* too low.

It did have some funny bits that made us laugh.  I mean, it wasn't a bad experience.  I just know that it can be done so much better.
 
2014-05-02 09:34:45 AM
I didn't read the review.  I don't care, I'm going to see it regardless.  I enjoyed the first one, tolerating the horrible Lizard design.  I like Andrew Garfield's take on the character a hell of a lot better than Tobey Maguire's.  At least the web shooters aren't organic.
 
2014-05-02 09:37:27 AM

markfara: I don't generally give much "film taste" credence to anyone whose major movie credit is "Myra Breckenridge". It's just a rule of mine.


His, and John Simon's, brand of cattiness was considered subversive back in the 70s.

Forty years later, he comes across as a rank amateur.
 
2014-05-02 09:38:40 AM

thecpt: So the av club said it was refreshingly different from the original trilogy.

I've got a feeling people will try to find excuses to not like this movie.

That being said, it might still be a bad movie. I don't know yet


It's not a bad movie.  It's just not a very good one either.

This is a franchise that has lost its way.
 
2014-05-02 09:42:18 AM
 
2014-05-02 09:43:57 AM
Oh let me guess - the following reactions are listed under the review from the legions of farking loser fanboys

'Shut up you are a ghey'
'Not every movie has to be [insert name of movie with a plot, aka pretentious]'
'I'm going to see it anyway I dont care about your stoopid review'
'Critics are idiots, wen they say a movie sux I always like it'
'Yer stoopid Spiderman doesnt [insert comic book factoid no one cares about]'
'Dont review these movies if you dont like them'

Think that should cover most of it.
 
2014-05-02 09:44:21 AM

natural316: Message to all who will complain about the movie in this thread: you'll all see it, they'll get your money, that's all they care about

Proceed


Not I. I haven't seen a Spidey movie since Doc Ock.
 
2014-05-02 09:45:42 AM
Amazing Spiderman 2 was much better than the last Amazing Spiderman movie.  Still pretty bad.
 
2014-05-02 09:46:27 AM

bungle_jr: i have heard from a co-worker who went to see it last night that this movie was not good...incohesive, trite, teen-romancy, etc.

i won't be seeing it, and i didn't see the first amazing spiderman...simply because for me it's too soon...tobey is still spidey/peter parker to me, and kirsten, whether she was actually good in the role or not, is still the wet-shirt-in-the-rain, drooooool...er i mean maryjane to me.


Sadly, though, I predict this movie will make at least a bajillion dollars. I'm tempted to go to the theaters and see Captain America: The Winter Soldier again just so I can help keep that movie alive in theaters for as long as possible. Goddamn, now THAT is an awesome movie.
 
2014-05-02 09:46:40 AM

scarmig: Aunt May is wasted, and should never be wasted.


If you had to be in a Spider-Man movie you'd drink heavily too.
 
2014-05-02 09:47:49 AM
More like THE AMAZING PILE OF SH*T

/high five
 
2014-05-02 09:48:09 AM
I was going to come in and say I wasn't going to see it, but I will. I'm a whore that way.
 
2014-05-02 09:50:39 AM

markfara: I don't generally give much "film taste" credence to anyone whose major movie credit is "Myra Breckenridge". It's just a rule of mine.

That said, I'm far more revved about the fact that "Under the Skin" is opening in my local art theatre today. Artsy sci-fi with a naked Scarlett Johansson. Yee-ha!


Saw Under the Skin last night, it's quite good. A combination of Lifeforce and The Man Who Fell To Earth by the guy who directed Sexy Beast. And Johansson is nude in no uncertain terms.
 
2014-05-02 09:54:18 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: markfara: I don't generally give much "film taste" credence to anyone whose major movie credit is "Myra Breckenridge". It's just a rule of mine.

That said, I'm far more revved about the fact that "Under the Skin" is opening in my local art theatre today. Artsy sci-fi with a naked Scarlett Johansson. Yee-ha!

Saw Under the Skin last night, it's quite good. A combination of Lifeforce and The Man Who Fell To Earth by the guy who directed Sexy Beast. And Johansson is nude in no uncertain terms.



O RLY? Intredasting...

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-05-02 09:54:53 AM

CarnySaur: kronicfeld: They need to let Spider-Man's rights revert to Marvel/Disney so he can be integrated into their cinematic universe.

They need to let Emma Stone be integrated into my pants.


you're such a romantic.
 
2014-05-02 09:56:23 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: It broke Movie Bob.


{Insert "Grumpy Cat GOOD.gif" here}

/used to be a fan, got tired of his schtick pretty quick
//NOT defending the new Spiderman crapola - I agree with Chipman about most of it. But if Chipman's various personas were to vanish, nothing of value would be lost.
 
2014-05-02 09:56:35 AM
I don't care about this movie in any way. I didn't see the first (fourth?) one, and I won't see this.

I don't want Spidey back in the MCU, either.  The MCU has been helped--forced to make better movies--by the lack of "well-known" characters. If Spidey was in the MCU, they could churn out any old dreck and say "Spider-Man!!!!!" and all the lame frat boys and sophomores would see it. This movie and Spidey 4 proves it.
 
2014-05-02 10:01:48 AM

natural316: Message to all who will complain about the movie in this thread: you'll all see it, they'll get your money, that's all they care about

Proceed


I love Spider-Man comics. I was on the fence about the last one and only saw it with my nephews. It wasn't terrible but also not great - not really needed.
The ensuing plans Sony has been laying out for a Spidey Universe of films, along with every trailer I've seen for this, is actually making me choose not to see this. It's not a knee jerk reaction - I don't like what they're doing and don't plan on supporting it.
Meanwhile, lots of Spidey digital comics on sale this weekend.
 
2014-05-02 10:06:05 AM

Courtney Love's Genital Warts: I don't want Spidey back in the MCU, either.  The MCU has been helped--forced to make better movies--by the lack of "well-known" characters. If Spidey was in the MCU, they could churn out any old dreck and say "Spider-Man!!!!!" and all the lame frat boys and sophomores would see it. This movie and Spidey 4 proves it.

I want to believe that the folks running the MCU would try to be better than that, but free money is free money.  You're right, though.  If they had Spiderman, I would never be treated to a film with a machine gun toting raccoon (which I didn't realize I needed as badly as I do).  They wouldn't be forced to take risks with the B team.

Hell, I'm more interested in Marvel getting all their theme park rights back.

 
2014-05-02 10:07:50 AM
Apologies.  Apparently I forgot how to Fark.  Damn you, lack of an edit button.

Courtney Love's Genital Warts: I don't want Spidey back in the MCU, either.  The MCU has been helped--forced to make better movies--by the lack of "well-known" characters. If Spidey was in the MCU, they could churn out any old dreck and say "Spider-Man!!!!!" and all the lame frat boys and sophomores would see it. This movie and Spidey 4 proves it.


I want to believe that the folks running the MCU would try to be better than that, but free money is free money.  You're right, though.  If they had Spiderman, I would never be treated to a film with a machine gun toting raccoon (which I didn't realize I needed as badly as I do).  They wouldn't be forced to take risks with the B team.

Hell, I'm more interested in Marvel getting all their theme park rights back.
 
2014-05-02 10:11:21 AM
Saw it. Not a good movie. And the fact that they rushed through what is one of the most iconic deaths in all of comics didn't help matters.

/40 year-old spoilers
//I miss "The Spectacular Spiderman"
 
2014-05-02 10:13:19 AM
I thought Rex Reed died years ago.
 
2014-05-02 10:13:38 AM

whosits_112: bungle_jr: i have heard from a co-worker who went to see it last night that this movie was not good...incohesive, trite, teen-romancy, etc.

i won't be seeing it, and i didn't see the first amazing spiderman...simply because for me it's too soon...tobey is still spidey/peter parker to me, and kirsten, whether she was actually good in the role or not, is still the wet-shirt-in-the-rain, drooooool...er i mean maryjane to me.

Sadly, though, I predict this movie will make at least a bajillion dollars. I'm tempted to go to the theaters and see Captain America: The Winter Soldier again just so I can help keep that movie alive in theaters for as long as possible. Goddamn, now THAT is an awesome movie.


i've been so behind on movies...i haven't seen the FIRST captain america...have it dvr'd though, along with the FIRST hobbits movie. i haven't even seen the avengers...but i've finally seen all 3 iron man flicks
 
2014-05-02 10:14:15 AM
KipKips:
//I miss "The Spectacular Spiderman"

But we have Ultimate Spider-Man, which isn't really about Spider-Man much and makes the Family Guy cut away scenes look like farking Shakespeare.
 
2014-05-02 10:15:57 AM
Am I the only one who would enjoy a Secret Wars, albeit without some of the silliness of the time?
 
2014-05-02 10:16:31 AM

borg: I thought Rex Reed died years ago.


with the alliteration in his name, i always mistake him for a minor super villain
 
2014-05-02 10:16:59 AM

eagles95: My son wants to see it. I am telling him wait till Redbox because I can't in good faith waste money on Spiderman in the theater. I even explained the whole if no one goes to see it, it MAY get bought back by Disney. He kind of gets that. I basically said, you want a movie like Lego Marvel on PS3? Then we wait. And he even hated the last one too.


So much this!
 
2014-05-02 10:19:19 AM

ManateeGag: KipKips:
//I miss "The Spectacular Spiderman"

But we have Ultimate Spider-Man, which isn't really about Spider-Man much and makes the Family Guy cut away scenes look like farking Shakespeare.


Caught a couple of episodes. Sadly accurate.
 
2014-05-02 10:20:11 AM

Usurper4: Am I the only one who would enjoy a Secret Wars, albeit without some of the silliness of the time?


At least they could set up Venom properly...

/just no Secret Wars 2 (even though the last issue was surprisingly insane)
 
2014-05-02 10:21:05 AM

Space Station Wagon: eagles95: My son wants to see it. I am telling him wait till Redbox because I can't in good faith waste money on Spiderman in the theater. I even explained the whole if no one goes to see it, it MAY get bought back by Disney. He kind of gets that. I basically said, you want a movie like Lego Marvel on PS3? Then we wait. And he even hated the last one too.

So much this!


Yeah, my nephews enjoyed the last one well enough once they got past the point that it had nothing to do with the three they grew up with. But the excitement they had after seeing Winter Soldier blew every other film away. I wasn't sure they would appreciate it as much as I did, but it proves that you don't have to keep dumbing these things down for kids and teens: they'll recognize when it's legitmately good.
 
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