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(ScreenCrush)   A look at the back-up Star Wars sequel prepared in case the first one flopped   (screencrush.com) divider line 40
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2014-05-02 02:26:59 PM
Does it involve Life Day and Bea Arthur?
 
2014-05-02 02:37:11 PM
God damn, stop biatching about the Expanded Universe.

Not all of us had the money or time to invest in it.

And some of it was stupid and felt off.

/liked some of it. Especially Dark Horse stuff.

//saw Star Wars in 77 when I was 9 years old.

///Get Off My Moisture Farm!
 
2014-05-02 02:43:34 PM

Darth_Lukecash: God damn, stop biatching about the Expanded Universe.


Shadows of the Empire wasn't bad. The video game  was great. Splinter of the Mind's Eye was okay, I guess. I read it as a kid, after Empire so the Luke/Leia stuff was weird. The Zahn Trilogy was mediocre. Didn't read anything else except something with the Vong or something, read it on a plane. Didn't dig it.
 
2014-05-02 03:18:45 PM

Mugato: Darth_Lukecash: God damn, stop biatching about the Expanded Universe.

Shadows of the Empire wasn't bad. The video game  was great. Splinter of the Mind's Eye was okay, I guess. I read it as a kid, after Empire so the Luke/Leia stuff was weird. The Zahn Trilogy was mediocre. Didn't read anything else except something with the Vong or something, read it on a plane. Didn't dig it.


StarWars Tales was good. Featuring alternate takes on the characters, parodies, filling in some gaps. Great series.

Get it before Dark Horse loses the licenses.

Plus they are doing The Star Wars. Based on Lucas original treatment and original Ralph Macquarie designs.

I got to meet Ralph Macquarie at a convention. Nice guy.
 
2014-05-02 04:10:17 PM
I read that book in 1978, when I was 12, but can't remember a thing about it.
 
2014-05-02 05:23:00 PM
Wait, we could have had Star Wars twincest from almost the very beginning?  Dammit, why didn't anyone tell me this?
 
2014-05-02 05:24:20 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-02 05:26:17 PM

Triumph: I read that book in 1978, when I was 12, but can't remember a thing about it.


I read it and I think it was1978.  It would have made a good movie.
 
2014-05-02 05:33:15 PM

Triumph: I read that book in 1978, when I was 12, but can't remember a thing about it.


So did I. It had swamps and stuff in it and a priceless gem.
 
2014-05-02 05:38:17 PM
I read it back in 78 because I thought it would be the next movie. I wanted to get the jump on all my friends.
 
jvl
2014-05-02 05:40:45 PM

Triumph: I read that book in 1978, when I was 12, but can't remember a thing about it.


It's very Alan Dean Foster: Guy gets lost on a planet. There are interesting Alien monsters. In the last chapter, we get back to the point of the book.
 
2014-05-02 05:47:16 PM

img3.wikia.nocookie.net


"People complaining about the Expanded Universe being wiped away can kiss my furry green rabbit butt."


- Jaxxon

 
2014-05-02 05:51:45 PM

hasty ambush: Triumph: I read that book in 1978, when I was 12, but can't remember a thing about it.

I read it and I think it was 1978.  It would have made a good movie.


I too read it when I was 12, in 1985. I remember enjoying it.
 
2014-05-02 05:56:20 PM
I read it. I only remember y-wings and a swamp planet.
 
2014-05-02 05:56:26 PM
Read that too.  I liked it when I was young.
 
2014-05-02 05:57:52 PM
Lucas's plans my ass that dead woman Leigh Brackett wrote Empire
 
2014-05-02 06:26:55 PM

Metaluna Mutant: [i.imgur.com image 800x1026]


Wow, did I just have a Mad Magazine flashback.

/I can even smell the comic book store where I would buy it.
 
2014-05-02 06:49:15 PM

Triumph: I read that book in 1978, when I was 12, but can't remember a thing about it.


Me too. I still have it on an old dusty bookshelf.
 
2014-05-02 06:54:50 PM

Savage Belief: Triumph: I read that book in 1978, when I was 12, but can't remember a thing about it.

Me too. I still have it on an old dusty bookshelf.


I saw Star Wars in the Theater in 1977 (age 7) or so then Return of the Jedi when It came out (about age 14) but never saw Empire in the theater.  Never saw it until in college several years after Jedi.  So my Star Wars was Star Wars, Splinter (only book of Star Wars I ever read), then Jedi.  It fit just fine.

Things I remember about it.
1. Leia does a bunch of fighting.
2. It would appear many people can use the force to some extent.  It is hinted If I remember correctly that Han Solo has some powers.
3. Everything was inconclusive and well there was no real point to it.
 
2014-05-02 08:09:00 PM

brandent: Savage Belief: Triumph: I read that book in 1978, when I was 12, but can't remember a thing about it.

Me too. I still have it on an old dusty bookshelf.

I saw Star Wars in the Theater in 1977 (age 7) or so then Return of the Jedi when It came out (about age 14) but never saw Empire in the theater.  Never saw it until in college several years after Jedi.  So my Star Wars was Star Wars, Splinter (only book of Star Wars I ever read), then Jedi.  It fit just fine.

Things I remember about it.
1. Leia does a bunch of fighting.
2. It would appear many people can use the force to some extent.  It is hinted If I remember correctly that Han Solo has some powers.
3. Everything was inconclusive and well there was no real point to it.


Isn't that book where from which came the whole Darth Vader vs. Obi-Wan over a pit of lava thing? I seem to remember that being a big deal when the book came out - finding out how Vader ended up in the suit, and getting a little backstory on "he was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil."
 
2014-05-02 08:16:22 PM
I'd have been happy with Hardware Wars


image1.frequency.com
 
2014-05-02 08:41:36 PM

Savage Belief: Triumph: I read that book in 1978, when I was 12, but can't remember a thing about it.

Me too. I still have it on an old dusty bookshelf.


It's kind of ironic, given the title.
 
2014-05-02 08:48:08 PM

moothemagiccow: Lucas's plans my ass that dead woman Leigh Brackett wrote Empire


No she didn't.

Almost nothing of what she wrote survived the final screenplay for TESB.

After she died, Lucas insisted she get credit to honor her memory. I know, such a bastard, right?

/farking fanboys
 
2014-05-02 09:10:49 PM

100 Watt Walrus: Isn't that book where from which came the whole Darth Vader vs. Obi-Wan over a pit of lava thing? I seem to remember that being a big deal when the book came out - finding out how Vader ended up in the suit, and getting a little backstory on "he was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil."


My first exposure to that storyline was in the novelization of Star Wars...probably read that back in 81-82?
 
2014-05-02 09:55:07 PM

Mugato: Darth_Lukecash: God damn, stop biatching about the Expanded Universe.

Shadows of the Empire wasn't bad. The video game  was great. Splinter of the Mind's Eye was okay, I guess. I read it as a kid, after Empire so the Luke/Leia stuff was weird. The Zahn Trilogy was mediocre. Didn't read anything else except something with the Vong or something, read it on a plane. Didn't dig it.


For all the things I've fussed at for the prequels, I don't miss dumping the EU. It's not like elements can't be brought back anyway when they need them, ask the creative teams at marvel and DC how long it lasts before they start winking and nodding at the fans and then just wholesale putting it back in. EU was a stopgap measure until we got more real Star Wars stuff. It was dark days after ROTJ, and all the Trekkies were still getting movies and shows.
 
2014-05-02 10:16:00 PM
That's why the Zahn stuff is looked upon so fondly. Beside west end books it was all we had.
 
2014-05-02 11:54:55 PM

Fano: Mugato: Darth_Lukecash: God damn, stop biatching about the Expanded Universe.

Shadows of the Empire wasn't bad. The video game  was great. Splinter of the Mind's Eye was okay, I guess. I read it as a kid, after Empire so the Luke/Leia stuff was weird. The Zahn Trilogy was mediocre. Didn't read anything else except something with the Vong or something, read it on a plane. Didn't dig it.

For all the things I've fussed at for the prequels, I don't miss dumping the EU. It's not like elements can't be brought back anyway when they need them, ask the creative teams at marvel and DC how long it lasts before they start winking and nodding at the fans and then just wholesale putting it back in. EU was a stopgap measure until we got more real Star Wars stuff. It was dark days after ROTJ, and all the Trekkies were still getting movies and shows.


Oh you were still getting shows.
i.imgur.com i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-03 12:09:33 AM

100 Watt Walrus: brandent: Savage Belief: Triumph: I read that book in 1978, when I was 12, but can't remember a thing about it.

Me too. I still have it on an old dusty bookshelf.

I saw Star Wars in the Theater in 1977 (age 7) or so then Return of the Jedi when It came out (about age 14) but never saw Empire in the theater.  Never saw it until in college several years after Jedi.  So my Star Wars was Star Wars, Splinter (only book of Star Wars I ever read), then Jedi.  It fit just fine.

Things I remember about it.
1. Leia does a bunch of fighting.
2. It would appear many people can use the force to some extent.  It is hinted If I remember correctly that Han Solo has some powers.
3. Everything was inconclusive and well there was no real point to it.

Isn't that book where from which came the whole Darth Vader vs. Obi-Wan over a pit of lava thing? I seem to remember that being a big deal when the book came out - finding out how Vader ended up in the suit, and getting a little backstory on "he was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil."


Don't remember..was a very long time ago.  I do remember Vader being a large part of the story though.
 
2014-05-03 01:10:00 AM

brandent: 100 Watt Walrus: brandent: Savage Belief: Triumph: I read that book in 1978, when I was 12, but can't remember a thing about it.

Me too. I still have it on an old dusty bookshelf.

I saw Star Wars in the Theater in 1977 (age 7) or so then Return of the Jedi when It came out (about age 14) but never saw Empire in the theater.  Never saw it until in college several years after Jedi.  So my Star Wars was Star Wars, Splinter (only book of Star Wars I ever read), then Jedi.  It fit just fine.

Things I remember about it.
1. Leia does a bunch of fighting.
2. It would appear many people can use the force to some extent.  It is hinted If I remember correctly that Han Solo has some powers.
3. Everything was inconclusive and well there was no real point to it.

Isn't that book where from which came the whole Darth Vader vs. Obi-Wan over a pit of lava thing? I seem to remember that being a big deal when the book came out - finding out how Vader ended up in the suit, and getting a little backstory on "he was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil."

Don't remember..was a very long time ago.  I do remember Vader being a large part of the story though.


Short version:

Luke and Leia crashland on a jungle world that has minimal Imperial control.  In one of the bog towns, they run across some old hag that has a splint of some crystal that amplifies Force powers.  Just the tiny splinter she has is enough to turn her into a mild Force sensitive with minor Force powers.

The crystal it came from, the Mind's Eye crystal amplifies Force powers exponentially.  Those with minor powers become major powers.  Those with major powers become demi-gods.  A Force user like Vader?  You do the math.

So, of course, Vader is hunting the crystal too.

There's some Imperial commander that I can barely remember who had some unique torture device.

It all ends, of course, in the Temple of the Mind's Eye, with Vader and Luke and Leia, and Leia ends up battling Vader and, I believe, cutting his arm off, sending him plummeting into a seemingly bottomless pit.

Lots of 'hindsight' sexual tension that's too weird with the current canon.

Not a bad read, especially since I'm remembering this stuff from when I was about 9 years old.  It stuck.
 
2014-05-03 01:38:37 AM
I remember buying that book when it came out and being surprised that it wasn't the sequel to Star Wars.

I also remember there were these alcoholic swamp creatures who would perform sexual favours in exchange for booze.
 
2014-05-03 01:41:53 AM

The Martian Manhandler: [img3.wikia.nocookie.net image 290x406]
"People complaining about the Expanded Universe being wiped away can kiss my furry green rabbit butt."
- Jaxxon


I loved Bucky O'Hare.
 
2014-05-03 02:25:04 AM
The only thing I really remember from the book when I read it as a 12-year-old was that someone got something jammed into their eye socket.  It was both disgusting and cool.
 
2014-05-03 07:24:56 AM

Ghastly: I remember buying that book when it came out and being surprised that it wasn't the sequel to Star Wars.

I also remember there were these alcoholic swamp creatures who would perform sexual favours in exchange for booze.


That's right ! There was some Dobby-like bar creature that would be degraded for a drink... First time I felt true revulsion at a character in a book.
 
2014-05-03 08:56:03 AM

Infernalist: brandent: 100 Watt Walrus: brandent: Savage Belief: Triumph: I read that book in 1978, when I was 12, but can't remember a thing about it.

Me too. I still have it on an old dusty bookshelf.

I saw Star Wars in the Theater in 1977 (age 7) or so then Return of the Jedi when It came out (about age 14) but never saw Empire in the theater.  Never saw it until in college several years after Jedi.  So my Star Wars was Star Wars, Splinter (only book of Star Wars I ever read), then Jedi.  It fit just fine.

Things I remember about it.
1. Leia does a bunch of fighting.
2. It would appear many people can use the force to some extent.  It is hinted If I remember correctly that Han Solo has some powers.
3. Everything was inconclusive and well there was no real point to it.

Isn't that book where from which came the whole Darth Vader vs. Obi-Wan over a pit of lava thing? I seem to remember that being a big deal when the book came out - finding out how Vader ended up in the suit, and getting a little backstory on "he was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil."

Don't remember..was a very long time ago.  I do remember Vader being a large part of the story though.

Short version:

Luke and Leia crashland on a jungle world that has minimal Imperial control.  In one of the bog towns, they run across some old hag that has a splint of some crystal that amplifies Force powers.  Just the tiny splinter she has is enough to turn her into a mild Force sensitive with minor Force powers.

The crystal it came from, the Mind's Eye crystal amplifies Force powers exponentially.  Those with minor powers become major powers.  Those with major powers become demi-gods.  A Force user like Vader?  You do the math.

So, of course, Vader is hunting the crystal too.

There's some Imperial commander that I can barely remember who had some unique torture device.

It all ends, of course, in the Temple of the Mind's Eye, with Vader and Luke and Leia, and Leia ends up battling Vader and, I believe, cutting his arm off, sending him plummeting into a seemingly bottomless pit.

Lots of 'hindsight' sexual tension that's too weird with the current canon.

Not a bad read, especially since I'm remembering this stuff from when I was about 9 years old.  It stuck.


So Indiana Jones 4.
 
2014-05-03 10:33:03 AM
I enjoyed the X-Wing series of books.

And anyone who thought Lucasfilm/Disney would really restrict themselves to following the EU stuff if they ever did movies again might as well have been living in one of those books.
 
2014-05-03 01:34:54 PM
I'm sort of surprised that no one remembers that the Kaiburr Crystal was found in a temple to Cthulhu.

img1.wikia.nocookie.net

/hot
//the reason was that Foster's first published story was for Arkham Publishing
///can't escape cthulhu
 
2014-05-03 07:19:06 PM

Ghastly: I remember buying that book when it came out and being surprised that it wasn't the sequel to Star Wars.

I also remember there were these alcoholic swamp creatures who would perform sexual favours in exchange for booze.


Licking muddy boots clean = sexual favors?

Exactly what kind of fetishes do you have anyway???
 
2014-05-03 07:22:58 PM

Infernalist: It all ends, of course, in the Temple of the Mind's Eye, with Vader and Luke and Leia, and Leia ends up battling Vader and, I believe, cutting his arm off, sending him plummeting into a seemingly bottomless pit.


Leia gets her ass kicked (slashed). The reason she tries to fight Vader in the first place is because Luke is trapped under a rock.

Luke is freed by one of the Yuzzem (who immediately dies afterwards) and it's he who sends Vader missing an arm into a pit.

Hey, not bad for someone who last read the book in 1979!

/didn't cheat with Wikipedia either
//must have read the book half a dozen times, it was the only STAR WARS outside of comics I had
 
2014-05-04 01:27:08 AM

peterthx: Ghastly: I remember buying that book when it came out and being surprised that it wasn't the sequel to Star Wars.

I also remember there were these alcoholic swamp creatures who would perform sexual favours in exchange for booze.

Licking muddy boots clean = sexual favors?

Exactly what kind of fetishes do you have anyway???


I thought it was implied that some of the regulars have had them perform other private services in exchange for booze.
 
2014-05-04 01:52:45 AM

exparrot: Ghastly: I remember buying that book when it came out and being surprised that it wasn't the sequel to Star Wars.

I also remember there were these alcoholic swamp creatures who would perform sexual favours in exchange for booze.

That's right ! There was some Dobby-like bar creature that would be degraded for a drink... First time I felt true revulsion at a character in a book.


Vease sir, smav drink? Vickerman! Vickerman!
 
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