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(Russia Today)   The Battle of Slavyansk has begun. One helicopter pilot confirmed dead, with as many as four helicopters shot down   (rt.com) divider line 300
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2014-05-02 09:33:12 AM  
So much for Russia's claims that the pro-Russian faction is just made up of simple civilians.

The Ukranian helicopters were shot down with surface to air missiles.
 
2014-05-02 09:51:03 AM  

RexTalionis: So much for Russia's claims that the pro-Russian faction is just made up of simple civilians.

The Ukranian helicopters were shot down with surface to air missiles.


That's right, the helicopters were shot down by SAMs. And what, besides a Joe, is more of an Average Joe than a Sam?

Between a bunch of Sams and a guy named "Arsen Avakov" who do you think is the ragtag group of underdog civilian heroes and who is the villain? You've got a good solid American name versus a first name that's a misspelled felony and a last name that ends in "kov." I've seen enough movies to know who we're meant to root for in this scenario.
 
2014-05-02 10:58:15 AM  
forum.maplewoodonline.com
 
2014-05-02 10:58:26 AM  
we are linking to RT now?  What, was Volkischer Beobachter's site down?
 
2014-05-02 10:58:29 AM  
Since a lot of the equipment in Ukraine is from Russia I wonder how losses will be replaced?
 
2014-05-02 10:58:57 AM  
what's the under/over on how long it takes Putin to send in a "security force" to put down this "insurgency"
 
2014-05-02 10:59:16 AM  

Delta1212: RexTalionis: So much for Russia's claims that the pro-Russian faction is just made up of simple civilians.

The Ukranian helicopters were shot down with surface to air missiles.

That's right, the helicopters were shot down by SAMs. And what, besides a Joe, is more of an Average Joe than a Sam?

Between a bunch of Sams and a guy named "Arsen Avakov" who do you think is the ragtag group of underdog civilian heroes and who is the villain? You've got a good solid American name versus a first name that's a misspelled felony and a last name that ends in "kov." I've seen enough movies to know who we're meant to root for in this scenario.


I'm confused.  And scared.

Hold me.
 
2014-05-02 10:59:39 AM  
I have no doubt that anti-aircraft missiles are available in any Ukrainian convenience store and this is not indicative of anything whatsoever.
 
2014-05-02 10:59:51 AM  
It's a conspiracy by Call of Duty's level designers.
 
2014-05-02 11:00:33 AM  
Obama finally did it! He started World War III !
 
2014-05-02 11:00:56 AM  
Who starts a battle on a  Friday? I mean it's the weekend, chill out guys. Wait till Monday.
 
2014-05-02 11:01:15 AM  
Breathlessly awaiting up to the minute BS reports from RT's mouthpieces on Fark.  They must be waiting for the talking points to be issued from Moscow.
 
2014-05-02 11:01:28 AM  

RexTalionis: So much for Russia's claims that the pro-Russian faction is just made up of simple civilians.

The Ukranian helicopters were shot down with surface to air missiles.


I saw Russian claims that the helos were shot down by small arms fire- that appears to be the official Kremlin line.
 
2014-05-02 11:02:32 AM  
Ukraine's president is claiming 'many' pro-Russian protesters have been killed in these attacks. It's like he's daring Russia to invade.
 
2014-05-02 11:02:50 AM  
generallyso: I have no doubt that anti-aircraft missiles are available in any Ukrainian convenience store and this is not indicative of anything whatsoever.

actually, that's far less damning of the russians than the AK-100 weapons.   RPGs might conceivably been part of the arsenal of the Ukrainian army.  However, no forces of any sort in Ukraine had AK-100s until in the early days of the invasion of eastern ukraine did 'green men' suddenly have them.  russia has since corrected its oversight, but the photos are there.   only russia's forces, and even then only a small part of them, have AK-100 series weapons in the region.

Lavrov Goebbels says that the ukrainians built them of pots and pans, I'm sure.
 
2014-05-02 11:03:13 AM  
Begun, The Battle of Slavyansk has begun.

FTFY

/pyet pyeav
 
2014-05-02 11:03:27 AM  
It's time for European countries like France and Germany to step up and do more to help them. It's THEIR backyard.
 
2014-05-02 11:03:30 AM  

Walker: Who starts a battle on a  Friday? I mean it's the weekend, chill out guys. Wait till Monday.


Monday is blue and Tuesdays black.
 
2014-05-02 11:03:44 AM  

Zarquon's Flat Tire: It's a conspiracy by Call of Duty's level designers.


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2014-05-02 11:03:53 AM  
 
2014-05-02 11:03:54 AM  
stream1.gifsoup.com
 
2014-05-02 11:04:13 AM  

Phoenix_M: Obama finally did it! He started World War III !


I know the obvious rejoiner, but......

multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk

/I'll be in my bunk---er
 
2014-05-02 11:04:25 AM  
There's going to be a lot of coffins.  Hopefully if enough Russian coffins feel up, Putin will find himself dealing with riots in Moscow.  Massive civil unrest may be the only thing that checks his ego.
 
2014-05-02 11:04:32 AM  

cgraves67: Ukraine's president is claiming 'many' pro-Russian protesters have been killed in these attacks. It's like he's daring Russia to invade.


It may not seem like a big deal to Americans, but most people consider territorial sovereignty a big deal.
 
2014-05-02 11:04:46 AM  
If they have the capability to shoot down two helicopters so quickly, they probably aren't really just protestors, but professional soldiers....Russian professional soldiers.
 
2014-05-02 11:04:46 AM  
Get your ghillies suit on and take cover by the ferris wheel. Set up all your C4 and land mines well in front of you to thin them out. Don't let them get above you and don't get cornered. You've got 8 minutes ..
 
2014-05-02 11:04:47 AM  
This in no way would be a propaganda piece with the purpose of justifying a Russian invasion.

Definitely not.
 
2014-05-02 11:04:51 AM  

Phoenix_M: Obama finally did it! He started World War III !


What did you expect? Sarah Palin predicted he would.
 
2014-05-02 11:04:56 AM  
This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.
 
2014-05-02 11:05:11 AM  

MooseBayou: Delta1212: RexTalionis: So much for Russia's claims that the pro-Russian faction is just made up of simple civilians.

The Ukranian helicopters were shot down with surface to air missiles.

That's right, the helicopters were shot down by SAMs. And what, besides a Joe, is more of an Average Joe than a Sam?

Between a bunch of Sams and a guy named "Arsen Avakov" who do you think is the ragtag group of underdog civilian heroes and who is the villain? You've got a good solid American name versus a first name that's a misspelled felony and a last name that ends in "kov." I've seen enough movies to know who we're meant to root for in this scenario.

I'm confused.  And scared.

Hold me.


Looked at your picture.  Sorry to say, you're on your own, buddy boy.  Particularly on the "holding" part.
 
2014-05-02 11:06:07 AM  
Wow, I just flipped through all the major news networks, and not one of them is covering this.
 
2014-05-02 11:06:20 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: Phoenix_M: Obama finally did it! He started World War III !

I know the obvious rejoiner, but......

[multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk image 600x334]

/I'll be in my bunk---er


I'm feeling a bit moist all of the sudden.
 
2014-05-02 11:06:48 AM  

Some Coke Drinking Guy: Wow, I just flipped through all the major news networks, and not one of them is covering this.


Have they found flight 370 yet?
 
2014-05-02 11:07:14 AM  
Something tells me this article is one-sided...
 
2014-05-02 11:07:18 AM  

groppet: Since a lot of the equipment in Ukraine is from Russia I wonder how losses will be replaced?


Half the police departments in the US have MRAPS left over from the GWOT.  I would suggest that they are better used to defend Kiev.
 
2014-05-02 11:07:24 AM  

Some Coke Drinking Guy: Wow, I just flipped through all the major news networks, and not one of them is covering this.


Eh, but it makes front page on all their websites, so I'm guessing it's just the "Cable news sucks" rule continuing to be in play since forever.
 
2014-05-02 11:07:34 AM  
The US better hurry up and get some peace keeping troops over there right away. They just need to pick a side, patch things up and be home by June. Right?
 
2014-05-02 11:07:48 AM  
stream1.gifsoup.com
 
2014-05-02 11:08:04 AM  

ICDedPpl: The US better hurry up and get some peace keeping troops over there right away. They just need to pick a side, patch things up and be home by June. Right?


They will welcome the US troops with open arms. And flowers.
 
2014-05-02 11:08:26 AM  
Also: what genius thought RT was a reliable unbiased source to submit for this particular issue?
 
2014-05-02 11:08:30 AM  
Try to keep in mind the viewpoint of the source here folks.  Read it carefully, you'll see it.
 
2014-05-02 11:08:31 AM  

ikanreed: cgraves67: Ukraine's president is claiming 'many' pro-Russian protesters have been killed in these attacks. It's like he's daring Russia to invade.

It may not seem like a big deal to Americans, but most people consider territorial sovereignty a big deal.


I agree. I said the very thing in the last thread. But I would think a more tactful approach would be to address how much control they have gained rather than something like a body count.
 
2014-05-02 11:08:33 AM  

Russ1642: Some Coke Drinking Guy: Wow, I just flipped through all the major news networks, and not one of them is covering this.

Have they found flight 370 yet?


It's tangled in Jodi Arias' Balloon Boy sculpture of Treyvon Martin.
 
2014-05-02 11:09:01 AM  

TommyJReed: http://www.blacklistednews.com/%E2%80%98Igla%E2%80%99_MANPAD_systems_ s tolen_from_Ukraine%E2%80%99s_military_depots_during_unrests/33514/0/38 /38/Y/M.html
I wonder if these stolen Ukrainian missiles are being used


I'd say "Bingo", if I were you.
 
2014-05-02 11:09:31 AM  
Thanks to whoever posted a link to a Russian propaganda website. At least now I know never to visit a link from RT again.
 
2014-05-02 11:09:35 AM  

fireclown: groppet: Since a lot of the equipment in Ukraine is from Russia I wonder how losses will be replaced?

Half the police departments in the US have MRAPS left over from the GWOT.  I would suggest that they are better used to defend Kiev.


Yeah, but seeing as how the VP is such a VIP, shouldn't we keep the PC on the QT? 'Cause if it leaks to the VC he could end up MIA, and then we'd all be put out in KP.
 
2014-05-02 11:09:57 AM  
From wikipedia:

In 1676 a fortress named Tor was built at the confluence of the Kazenyy Torets and Sukhyy Torets rivers
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-05-02 11:11:00 AM  
RT is not a source of news. Rather, it is an outlet for Putin's lies and propaganda. Nothing they report is true.
 
2014-05-02 11:12:27 AM  

Phoenix_M: Obama finally did it! He started World War III !


static.gamespot.com
 
2014-05-02 11:12:36 AM  
Wolverines!
 
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