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2014-05-02 06:40:37 AM  

Friction8r: Sounds like another undereducated young Fark lib voter to me. Part of the FECKLESS crowd.


t1.rbxcdn.com
 
Skr
2014-05-02 06:44:31 AM  
This is his second chance at life, no way he would have lived through all that. Hope he gets the help he so obviously needs.
 
2014-05-02 06:47:08 AM  

Skr: This is his second chance at life, no way he would have lived through all that. Hope he gets the help he so obviously needs.


In America?  Likely he'll be sent to prison, to be passed around like a joint.
 
2014-05-02 06:49:38 AM  

skygod: Friction8r: Sounds like another undereducated young Fark lib voter to me. Part of the FECKLESS crowd.

You are stupidity, stuffed in idiocy, all stuffed inside a giant dumb. You are the turducken of stupid.


Smart enough to bait you.

/just saying.
 
2014-05-02 06:52:03 AM  
Thank goodness for that nosy person who saw him go in the storage area and calling in. Seems like without that person calling in, nobody would have known what was going to happen until it was too late.

/and
//What a little farking asshole.
 
2014-05-02 06:54:23 AM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Thank goodness for that nosy person who saw him go in the storage area and calling in. Seems like without that person calling in, nobody would have known what was going to happen until it was too late.

/and
//What a little farking asshole.


He was cutting through her backyard.
 
2014-05-02 06:57:42 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: What's he got here?

[previous.presstv.ir image 650x365]
The gun, not the animal.

 M-14.
 
2014-05-02 07:02:22 AM  
Was he one of the Trailer Park Boys?
 
2014-05-02 07:05:48 AM  
This might as well have happened anyway as no one from the school or family noticed anything going on with this kid.  Would've been a different outcome if that storage unit person didn't give a shiat about the kid.

Anyway, who the fark writes their whole plan for destruction in a journal anyway?
 
2014-05-02 07:05:50 AM  

stonelotus: zarker: It does make me kinda happy to think about how, wow, we could've heard about a farking horrible thing in a week, and now we won't.

we still can.  we don't get immunity for a week because one person was stopped.


media.nj.com

"Immunity! Save from talking heads on TV and random harassment of unpopular students!"
 
2014-05-02 07:08:28 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Gun safe in his room suggests the parents knew he had the weapons. I mean, if no one knows you have them there's not much need for a safe, is there?

[media.liveauctiongroup.net image 850x850]
One of these?


What is the fourth one down?
 
2014-05-02 07:12:04 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: What's he got here?

[previous.presstv.ir image 650x365]
The gun, not the animal.


It always starts with killing animals.
 
2014-05-02 07:13:40 AM  

August11: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Gun safe in his room suggests the parents knew he had the weapons. I mean, if no one knows you have them there's not much need for a safe, is there?

[media.liveauctiongroup.net image 850x850]
One of these?

What is the fourth one down?


Ishevsk Model: 1944

I guess just the top two are SKS.
 
2014-05-02 07:16:36 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: August11: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Gun safe in his room suggests the parents knew he had the weapons. I mean, if no one knows you have them there's not much need for a safe, is there?

[media.liveauctiongroup.net image 850x850]
One of these?

What is the fourth one down?

Ishevsk Model: 1944

I guess just the top two are SKS.


Thanks!
 
2014-05-02 07:18:31 AM  

rattchett: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: What's he got here?

[previous.presstv.ir image 650x365]
The gun, not the animal.
 M-14.


Springfield M1a. So his parents have money to throw around. Most teens aren't hunting with 2000 dollars worth of nostalgic gun wankery
 
2014-05-02 07:24:19 AM  

fusillade762: Where the F*CK are this kid's parents??


Where should they be? He's seventeen (17) years old. By them most kids have outgrown the dog kennels. And them durn libruls done made chaining them in the basement illegal, of all things.

I know: let's implant tiny devices in people's heads that will tell The Proper Authorities what they're doing and thinking every second, including not only a GPS tracker but also a Voice Of Authority that will tell them to stop right here and turn themselves in just in case Concerned Citizen has thought they "look suspicious" yet.

Lsherm: "Once there, detectives say LaDue detailed an elaborate plot that started with murdering his mother, father and sister with a .22 caliber firearm. LaDue then planned to go to a remote area outside Waseca to start fires that would pull first responders out of town. At that time, investigators say, LaDue planned to go to the middle and high school campus during lunch and set off pressure cooker bombs to kill students. When the school police liaison officer responded, LaDue planned to shoot him, and then open fire on more students."

A+ for ambition.  He thought through more things than most school shooters do.


Wasn't most of this in at least one movie?

SpdrJay: Oh, so were arresting people for just planning to bomb and kill now????

Thought-crime 1984, anyone?


Lots of people need an excuse to let The Authorities do their thinking for them. Big Fear is one such. But it's got to be reinforced every now and then or people will start listening to some imitation Jesus or something.

Ergo "Look how well we're keeping you safe! We get the massacres before they're started!" Along with, of course, a Concerned Citizen who thought something somebody did "looked suspicious" and did his snitchly duty. And underlying it all is Big Fear: "See what horrible things would happen to you if you stop giving us so much power and money?!?"

He could have just planned to build a mosque near "Ground Zero," but that's getting tired.

Then too there's this, from a Star Tribune article:

"We have escaped what could have been a horrific experience. We can either believe this occurred because of a lucky break or, as I do, choose to believe that God was looking out for all of us."

And God's chosen agents are the Police. Mark that.

Alphax: Skr: This is his second chance at life, no way he would have lived through all that. Hope he gets the help he so obviously needs.

In America?  Likely he'll be sent to prison, to be passed around like a joint.


For being a pathetic loser who can't use a calendar, among other things, and then blabs everything to police to make sure we know who he is.

A pathetic mastermind for a pathetic public. Sheesh.

Now you brain-starved masses can go back to shaming Lindsay Lohan for just wanting to have fun. "She drinks! She goes to trendy clubs! She has sex! How totally unlike us that evil woman is!"
 
2014-05-02 07:29:53 AM  

strangeluck: fusillade762: Where the F*CK are this kid's parents??

I'm wondering this as well. I mean yeah, its not impossible to keep secrets from your family, but to have amassed so many weapons, how the hell did he get his hands on this stuff?


Wonder how he came up with the money to get all that stuff?  His parents?  It's not cheap. Plus, in most states don't you have to be 18 to purchase handguns?  No wonder they're not talking.
 
2014-05-02 07:31:23 AM  

Subtle_Canary: rattchett: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: What's he got here?

[previous.presstv.ir image 650x365]
The gun, not the animal.
 M-14.

Springfield M1a. So his parents have money to throw around. Most teens aren't hunting with 2000 dollars worth of nostalgic gun wankery


An underpowered pistol bullet taking down a big deer? Must have been a lucky shot. Hell, it could be anything, it's a common style. And a good gimmick: they make shotguns that look like AK 47s too.

By the way, ain't that photo sweet? It's almost like the dead deer is a pet now.
 
2014-05-02 07:33:27 AM  

The One True TheDavid: Subtle_Canary: rattchett: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: What's he got here?

[previous.presstv.ir image 650x365]
The gun, not the animal.
 M-14.

Springfield M1a. So his parents have money to throw around. Most teens aren't hunting with 2000 dollars worth of nostalgic gun wankery

An underpowered pistol bullet taking down a big deer? Must have been a lucky shot. Hell, it could be anything, it's a common style. And a good gimmick: they make shotguns that look like AK 47s too.

By the way, ain't that photo sweet? It's almost like the dead deer is a pet now.


Bigger pic.

stmedia.startribune.com
 
2014-05-02 07:34:40 AM  

Subtle_Canary: rattchett: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: What's he got here?

[previous.presstv.ir image 650x365]
The gun, not the animal.
 M-14.

Springfield M1a. So his parents have money to throw around. Most teens aren't hunting with 2000 dollars worth of nostalgic gun wankery


Could be a Polyetch or Norinco M14 clone.

What ever brand it is, I am glad he did not get the chance to use it.
 
2014-05-02 07:37:01 AM  
Thanks, NSA
 
2014-05-02 07:40:41 AM  

The One True TheDavid: Subtle_Canary: rattchett: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: What's he got here?

[previous.presstv.ir image 650x365]
The gun, not the animal.
 M-14.

Springfield M1a. So his parents have money to throw around. Most teens aren't hunting with 2000 dollars worth of nostalgic gun wankery

An underpowered pistol bullet taking down a big deer? Must have been a lucky shot. Hell, it could be anything, it's a common style. And a good gimmick: they make shotguns that look like AK 47s too.

By the way, ain't that photo sweet? It's almost like the dead deer is a pet now.


It's .308.  A perfect calibre for deer.
 
2014-05-02 07:41:24 AM  

August11: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Gun safe in his room suggests the parents knew he had the weapons. I mean, if no one knows you have them there's not much need for a safe, is there?

[media.liveauctiongroup.net image 850x850]
One of these?

What is the fourth one down?


Looks like the shorter version of the Mosin-Nagant.
 
2014-05-02 07:52:44 AM  

The One True TheDavid: An underpowered pistol bullet taking down a big deer?


.308Win is an underpowered pistol round?
 
2014-05-02 07:54:41 AM  

way south: /thankfully his obsession with planning was his downfall.
/using fire, distracting the first responders, explosives.
/a scarily well thought out attack.


It's actually a carbon copy of the Columbine attack.

One of the things people don't realize is that Columbine was a failed *BOMBING*.  Shooting the kids was Plan B, in case the propane tank-based bombs didn't go off, which thankfully, they didn't.  As bad as Columbine was, it could have been much, much worse.
 
2014-05-02 07:55:18 AM  

The One True TheDavid: fusillade762: Where the F*CK are this kid's parents??

Where should they be? He's seventeen (17) years old. By them most kids have outgrown the dog kennels. And them durn libruls done made chaining them in the basement illegal, of all things.

I know: let's implant tiny devices in people's heads that will tell The Proper Authorities what they're doing and thinking every second, including not only a GPS tracker but also a Voice Of Authority that will tell them to stop right here and turn themselves in just in case Concerned Citizen has thought they "look suspicious" yet.

Lsherm: "Once there, detectives say LaDue detailed an elaborate plot that started with murdering his mother, father and sister with a .22 caliber firearm. LaDue then planned to go to a remote area outside Waseca to start fires that would pull first responders out of town. At that time, investigators say, LaDue planned to go to the middle and high school campus during lunch and set off pressure cooker bombs to kill students. When the school police liaison officer responded, LaDue planned to shoot him, and then open fire on more students."

A+ for ambition.  He thought through more things than most school shooters do.

Wasn't most of this in at least one movie?

SpdrJay: Oh, so were arresting people for just planning to bomb and kill now????

Thought-crime 1984, anyone?

Lots of people need an excuse to let The Authorities do their thinking for them. Big Fear is one such. But it's got to be reinforced every now and then or people will start listening to some imitation Jesus or something.

Ergo "Look how well we're keeping you safe! We get the massacres before they're started!" Along with, of course, a Concerned Citizen who thought something somebody did "looked suspicious" and did his snitchly duty. And underlying it all is Big Fear: "See what horrible things would happen to you if you stop giving us so much power and money?!?"

He could have just planned to build a mosque near "Ground Zero," but that's getting tired.

Then too there's this, from a Star Tribune article:

"We have escaped what could have been a horrific experience. We can either believe this occurred because of a lucky break or, as I do, choose to believe that God was looking out for all of us."

And God's chosen agents are the Police. Mark that.

Alphax: Skr: This is his second chance at life, no way he would have lived through all that. Hope he gets the help he so obviously needs.

In America?  Likely he'll be sent to prison, to be passed around like a joint.

For being a pathetic loser who can't use a calendar, among other things, and then blabs everything to police to make sure we know who he is.

A pathetic mastermind for a pathetic public. Sheesh.

Now you brain-starved masses can go back to shaming Lindsay Lohan for just wanting to have fun. "She drinks! She goes to trendy clubs! She has sex! How totally unlike us that evil woman is!"


Lindsey Lohan is legit crazy. If it were drinking or sex, she'd be totally sane. The rest of your post is equally as unenlightened as that part and isn't worth responding to.
 
2014-05-02 07:56:18 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Gun safe in his room suggests the parents knew he had the weapons. I mean, if no one knows you have them there's not much need for a safe, is there?

[media.liveauctiongroup.net image 850x850]
One of these?


That, and the hunting photo on his Facebook page.  I'm thinking that the firearms were probably purchased by the parents for the intent of hunting, and he decided to use them for a more nefarious purpose.  Ammo ain't cheap nowadays, and it's hard to build up a stockpile unnoticed.  That is, unless the parents are completely clueless.
 
2014-05-02 08:01:29 AM  

CivicMindedFive: August11: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Gun safe in his room suggests the parents knew he had the weapons. I mean, if no one knows you have them there's not much need for a safe, is there?

[media.liveauctiongroup.net image 850x850]
One of these?

What is the fourth one down?

Looks like the shorter version of the Mosin-Nagant.


It's a Mosin-Nagant M44. They scaled-down the M91/30 for urban combat.

/love the Mosin
//7.62x54R is cheap and fun to shoot
 
2014-05-02 08:01:56 AM  
So....how long before people want to ban Call of Duty because it's influencing kids


/not because its the same game every year like Madden
 
2014-05-02 08:03:31 AM  

pinchpoint: The One True TheDavid: An underpowered pistol bullet taking down a big deer?

.308Win is an underpowered pistol round?


They're confusing the Springfield M1a (which is an M-14 clone firing the .308) with an M1 Carbine (of which the .30 ammo is fairly underpowered).

Of course, it's all "gun semantics".  People TRULY concerned with safety don't let themselves be confused by minutiae like "facts".  For example, from the recently ought-to-be published, Dianne Feinstein's Big Book of Guns That Will Kill Your Children:

i115.photobucket.com
 
2014-05-02 08:03:47 AM  
"LaDue also said he had an assault rifle, a number of handguns and..."


Well there's his problem. He should have gotten assault handguns.
 
2014-05-02 08:04:18 AM  

eagles95: So....how long before people want to ban Call of Duty because it's influencing kids


/not because its the same game every year like Madden


If it's influencing kids, it's making them less violent:

pages.cmns.sfu.ca
 
2014-05-02 08:05:16 AM  

FightDirector: pinchpoint: The One True TheDavid: An underpowered pistol bullet taking down a big deer?

.308Win is an underpowered pistol round?

They're confusing the Springfield M1a (which is an M-14 clone firing the .308) with an M1 Carbine (of which the .30 ammo is fairly underpowered).


Oh, alternate interpretation:  TFA mentions the kid had a .22.  They might be thinking the rifle in the picture is chambered in that rather than the .308.

/these things always occur to me after I've hit "Add Comment" and before the page refreshes.
 
2014-05-02 08:06:40 AM  
August11
2014-05-02 07:08:28 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Gun safe in his room suggests the parents knew he had the weapons. I mean, if no one knows you have them there's not much need for a safe, is there?

[media.liveauctiongroup.net image 850x850]
One of these?

What is the fourth one down?

Mosin nagan m44

The One True TheDavid

An underpowered pistol bullet taking down a big deer? Must have been a lucky shot.

You think that rifle fires an "underpowered pistol" caliber?


CivicMindedFive
2014-05-02 07:41:24 AM

August11: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Gun safe in his room suggests the parents knew he had the weapons. I mean, if no one knows you have them there's not much need for a safe, is there?

[media.liveauctiongroup.net image 850x850]


>>>What is the fourth one down?

Looks like the shorter version of the Mosin-Nagant.
No, it IS a Mosin Nagant m44.
 
2014-05-02 08:11:08 AM  

FightDirector: They're confusing the Springfield M1a (which is an M-14 clone firing the .308) with an M1 Carbine (of which the .30 ammo is fairly underpowered).


The .30 Carbine round isn't *THAT* underpowered:  It's got twice the muzzle energy of a +P 9mm Parabellum, which I think we all agree isn't something to sneeze at.

When used with the proper bullets, it makes an OK short range deer round.  Not spectacular, but certainly good enough.
 
2014-05-02 08:12:24 AM  

pinchpoint: //7.62x54R is cheap and fun to shoot


Not for long....

/Well, it'll always be fun to shoot.
 
2014-05-02 08:17:29 AM  
This is clearly government stopping a law-abiding citizen from exercising his 2nd amendment rights. Until he actually starts killing people, he's a good guy with a gun.
 
2014-05-02 08:19:00 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: The One True TheDavid: fusillade762: Where the F*CK are this kid's parents??

Where should they be? He's seventeen (17) years old. By them most kids have outgrown the dog kennels. And them durn libruls done made chaining them in the basement illegal, of all things.

I know: let's implant tiny devices in people's heads that will tell The Proper Authorities what they're doing and thinking every second, including not only a GPS tracker but also a Voice Of Authority that will tell them to stop right here and turn themselves in just in case Concerned Citizen has thought they "look suspicious" yet.

Lsherm: "Once there, detectives say LaDue detailed an elaborate plot that started with murdering his mother, father and sister with a .22 caliber firearm. LaDue then planned to go to a remote area outside Waseca to start fires that would pull first responders out of town. At that time, investigators say, LaDue planned to go to the middle and high school campus during lunch and set off pressure cooker bombs to kill students. When the school police liaison officer responded, LaDue planned to shoot him, and then open fire on more students."

A+ for ambition.  He thought through more things than most school shooters do.

Wasn't most of this in at least one movie?

SpdrJay: Oh, so were arresting people for just planning to bomb and kill now????

Thought-crime 1984, anyone?

Lots of people need an excuse to let The Authorities do their thinking for them. Big Fear is one such. But it's got to be reinforced every now and then or people will start listening to some imitation Jesus or something.

Ergo "Look how well we're keeping you safe! We get the massacres before they're started!" Along with, of course, a Concerned Citizen who thought something somebody did "looked suspicious" and did his snitchly duty. And underlying it all is Big Fear: "See what horrible things would happen to you if you stop giving us so much power and money?!?"

He could have just planned to build a mosque near ...


Do you know what is scary?

The past two weeks you and I have always agreed in principle in every thread in which we have both been part
 
2014-05-02 08:20:22 AM  
people are broken #293374756
 
2014-05-02 08:29:33 AM  
Why only 4 counts of attempted first degree murder. I get that he wanted to kill mother,father, sister, police liaison. He however also wanted to kill as many other students as he could. Why didn't they charge him with counts for everyone who would have been in the school.

This little asshole wasn't going for revenge he was going for fame. He was a 17 year old wanting to shoot up an elementary school.

/I blame the Old Testament. No one can read about a god who turns all the members of a town into pillars of salt or floods the entire earth killing everyone except his chosen few and not become a violent sociopath. When will churches stop allowing children to partake in this mind altering pastime.
 
2014-05-02 08:36:58 AM  

Subtle_Canary: Dude was a moron. First responders to a fire aren't the same as the first responders to a school shooting. Starting a fire wouldn't have impacted the response time of a tactical unit making him eat his own bullet by even a minute. If anything, it would hasten it because radio traffic would have other officers more attentive.

There's planning, and then there is PROPER planning. This arse clown had a lot of complicated bullshiat that was counter intuitive to his 'goal'. Doesn't matter how well you plan something if that plan is faulty. you just have a well planned failure at that point.


Waseca isn't that big (20,000 maybe), so let's not assume their PD is particularly huge.
 
2014-05-02 08:41:50 AM  

CraicBaby: I want to know how a 17 yr old was able to get those guns and all that ammo.


Out here in the Mid-West and Great Lakes, at least away from urban areas, even many of our liberals are staunch gun owner and hunters so for a 17yr Minnesotans to get his hands on a bunch of guns and ammo isn't that hard to do also, since being over 16 in Minnesota, he can make most of his gun purchases himself as long as their not handguns or "assault/military" type weapons..
 
2014-05-02 08:46:20 AM  

SpdrJay: Oh, so were arresting people for just planning to bomb and kill now????

Thought-crime 1984, anyone?


Except he had already planted some bombs at the school.

The investigation began March 24, when melting snow revealed a pair of devices on the Hartley Elementary School playground in Waseca. Police say one of the devices had detonated while the second had failed to ignite.
Four days later a third device was found inside of a stuffed toy. It was already detonated.


Now granted, it sounds like these 'bombs' may have not been much more then glorified firecrackers, but he obviously has some sort of mental malfunction.
 
2014-05-02 08:48:49 AM  
Gotta wonder who molested him.
 
2014-05-02 08:51:46 AM  
And the lady in green says, "That's not how any of this works."

Kid already went past his intended "Do Date".
Entire fiasco is the story supposedly given to cops while grilling the kid.
These local cops are religiosis nutbirds.

As the media dies off, exactly what laws did this kid break?
 
2014-05-02 08:54:55 AM  
Ban guns. Problem solved.
 
2014-05-02 08:55:11 AM  

GodComplex: Huh, I thought this sounded familiar.

http://www.kare11.com/story/news/local/2014/03/29/explosives-found-o n- waseca-school-playground/7055059/


Yeah, I remember the Fark thread about that at the time... Most people figured it was just kids playing with firecrackers... Oops, I guess not!
 
2014-05-02 08:55:25 AM  

you are a puppet: zarker: It does make me kinda happy to think about how, wow, we could've heard about a farking horrible thing in a week, and now we won't. Sometimes the world is an okay place

This was a diversionary arrest. The real killer will strike next week.
At least that's how it would go down on Homeland.


And the real target is the hospice/bingo hall
 
2014-05-02 08:55:38 AM  

Inigo: He's the Peter Molyneux of school shooters.


.... Wow ....
Really glad no one was hurt because I don't feel bad at ALL for laughing at this.
 
2014-05-02 08:55:45 AM  

dittybopper: eagles95: So....how long before people want to ban Call of Duty because it's influencing kids


/not because its the same game every year like Madden

If it's influencing kids, it's making them less violent:

[pages.cmns.sfu.ca image 850x625]


I wonder if that downward tick in the early 2000's was when we shipped those boys off to 'Nam?

/I say it's due to that Rock And/Or Roll "music".
 
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