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(The Raw Story)   OH private school has decided to do a blanket drug test of every single student starting this fall purely as a "preventative measure." That the school president's brother is the CEO of the company that makes the testing kits is pure coincidence   (rawstory.com) divider line 119
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2014-05-01 01:22:48 PM
Gov. Rick Scott would be pleased.
 
2014-05-01 01:25:10 PM
It's a private school, then let them do what they want.

And then the parents can respond appropriately, ideally by firing this asshat.
 
2014-05-01 01:25:57 PM
It's a private school.  I'm sure the parents are either happy about the testing or taking their children somewhere else.
 
2014-05-01 01:34:49 PM

BMFPitt: It's a private school, then let them do what they want.

And then the parents can respond appropriately, ideally by firing this asshat.


Yes they can, and honestly they often get their results.
 
2014-05-01 01:35:02 PM

BMFPitt: It's a private school, then let them do what they want.

And then the parents can respond appropriately, ideally by firing this asshat.


James!: It's a private school.  I'm sure the parents are either happy about the testing or taking their children somewhere else.


These.
 
2014-05-01 01:39:41 PM
Anyone who's  ever walked through the naked machine at the airport can shut the fark up.

That thing is produced by a company owned in part by Michael Chertoff, who was head of Homeland Security at the time.

No other countries use it. There have been not peer reviewed tests of it's safety.
 
2014-05-01 01:40:42 PM
Well now that is what I would call a misuse of power.

Someone needs to have their ass fired.
 
2014-05-01 01:45:58 PM

Diogenes: Gov. Rick Scott would be pleased.


Done in one.
 
2014-05-01 01:51:54 PM

BMFPitt: It's a private school, then let them do what they want.

And then the parents can respond appropriately, ideally by firing this asshat.


You haven't spent much time with the kind of parents that send their kids to private school have you?
 
2014-05-01 02:00:32 PM

cman: Well now that is what I would call a misuse of power.

Someone needs to have their ass fired.


Or he's getting a deal on tests to keep his precious snowflakes safe from the kinds of dangers you find in public schools.

It's all a matter of perspective.
 
2014-05-01 02:01:09 PM
"This came about as a proactive, preventative measure," said K.C. McKenna

No it didn't, you farking liar.
 
2014-05-01 02:01:23 PM
What are blanket drugs and why have I not be told of them before?  They sound fun.
 
2014-05-01 02:02:45 PM

sammyk: BMFPitt: It's a private school, then let them do what they want.

And then the parents can respond appropriately, ideally by firing this asshat.

You haven't spent much time with the kind of parents that send their kids to private school have you?


I sent my children to private schools.  I wouldn't stand for this.  I spent all that money so the school would kiss my ass, not the other way around.
 
2014-05-01 02:08:24 PM

James!: Or he's getting a deal on tests


No way.  The drug testing companies need to expand their markets, because just about everyone that can be drug tested, is already being drug tested.  They will try to expand this program to every welfare recipient, school child, social security beneficiary, and anyone else they can shove their crappy tests onto, all in the name of capitalism.

Without market growth, you wither and die.

Of course they're not going to drug test the people that really need it: the administrators.
 
2014-05-01 02:10:20 PM

what_now: Anyone who's  ever walked through the naked machine at the airport can shut the fark up.

That thing is produced by a company owned in part by Michael Chertoff, who was head of Homeland Security at the time.

No other countries use it. There have been not peer reviewed tests of it's safety.


Our illusion of security is making a some lucky people a whole lot of money.
 
2014-05-01 02:11:08 PM

Marcus Aurelius: James!: Or he's getting a deal on tests

No way.  The drug testing companies need to expand their markets, because just about everyone that can be drug tested, is already being drug tested.  They will try to expand this program to every welfare recipient, school child, social security beneficiary, and anyone else they can shove their crappy tests onto, all in the name of capitalism.

Without market growth, you wither and die.

Of course they're not going to drug test the people that really need it: the administrators.


Were you always this paranoid or did someone introduce you to weed?
 
2014-05-01 02:13:28 PM

James!: Marcus Aurelius: James!: Or he's getting a deal on tests

No way.  The drug testing companies need to expand their markets, because just about everyone that can be drug tested, is already being drug tested.  They will try to expand this program to every welfare recipient, school child, social security beneficiary, and anyone else they can shove their crappy tests onto, all in the name of capitalism.

Without market growth, you wither and die.

Of course they're not going to drug test the people that really need it: the administrators.

Were you always this paranoid or did someone introduce you to weed?


How dare you befoul weed?
 
2014-05-01 02:19:32 PM

Nabb1: what_now: Anyone who's  ever walked through the naked machine at the airport can shut the fark up.

That thing is produced by a company owned in part by Michael Chertoff, who was head of Homeland Security at the time.

No other countries use it. There have been not peer reviewed tests of it's safety.

Our illusion of security is making a some lucky people a whole lot of money.



But we *do* have a "naked machine".  I'm *sure* it has some productive use somewhere.
 
2014-05-01 02:20:12 PM

cman: James!: Marcus Aurelius: James!: Or he's getting a deal on tests

No way.  The drug testing companies need to expand their markets, because just about everyone that can be drug tested, is already being drug tested.  They will try to expand this program to every welfare recipient, school child, social security beneficiary, and anyone else they can shove their crappy tests onto, all in the name of capitalism.

Without market growth, you wither and die.

Of course they're not going to drug test the people that really need it: the administrators.

Were you always this paranoid or did someone introduce you to weed?

How dare you befoul weed?


Don't get all reefer crazy, stony.  I have a packet of Ho-Hos if you'll just leave me and my family alone.
 
2014-05-01 02:20:50 PM

what_now: Anyone who's  ever walked through the naked machine at the airport can shut the fark up.

That thing is produced by a company owned in part by Michael Chertoff, who was head of Homeland Security at the time.

No other countries use it. There have been not peer reviewed tests of it's safety.


Not only that, they don't even work. If they dialed the resolution down like they showed the media, you could smuggle a bowling ball through. Even dialed up, they have so many false positives as to be useless.
 
2014-05-01 02:22:00 PM
and that's the difference between public schools and private schools.  when someone has a conflict of interest like this, the response is swift and effective in the private sector.  the president is replaced.  the private sector immediately corrects itself.

in the public sector, the issue becomes mired in years of expensive bureaucracy and the offender fails upward.
 
2014-05-01 02:27:59 PM

SlothB77: and that's the difference between public schools and private schools.  when someone has a conflict of interest like this, the response is swift and effective in the private sector.  the president is replaced.  the private sector immediately corrects itself.

in the public sector, the issue becomes mired in years of expensive bureaucracy and the offender fails upward.


Private school administrators have more authority to radically change policy leaving parents to either suck it up or scramble to find different schooling for their children.
 
2014-05-01 02:29:53 PM

Marcus Aurelius: sammyk: BMFPitt: It's a private school, then let them do what they want.

And then the parents can respond appropriately, ideally by firing this asshat.

You haven't spent much time with the kind of parents that send their kids to private school have you?

I sent my children to private schools.  I wouldn't stand for this.  I spent all that money so the school would kiss my ass, not the other way around.


There is also people like my in-laws that would think they are keeping their kids in a drug free environment and eat this up.

Agreed, If it was my kid I'd tell them to get bent.
 
2014-05-01 02:40:31 PM
I work for an insurance company and by law we have to offer "Drug Free Workplace" credits to companies that make those qualifications by the state. You know the actual difference of workplace losses that happen between those that are and those that aren't? Zero. The math is there that a place that does drug tests has an equal amount of losses against a business that doesn't.

Personally, I don't do drugs, I rarely drink, but how about we start treating adults like adults and let them make their own mind up what they want to do to themselves.
 
2014-05-01 02:49:15 PM

James!: Marcus Aurelius: James!: Or he's getting a deal on tests

No way.  The drug testing companies need to expand their markets, because just about everyone that can be drug tested, is already being drug tested.  They will try to expand this program to every welfare recipient, school child, social security beneficiary, and anyone else they can shove their crappy tests onto, all in the name of capitalism.

Without market growth, you wither and die.

Of course they're not going to drug test the people that really need it: the administrators.

Were you always this paranoid or did someone introduce you to weed?


Paranoid?  Are you kidding?  Florida's governor already tried to test all welfare recipients, mostly because he owns a drug testing company.

No, I'm not paranoid.  I am old enough, though, to know that if you assume the worst, you won't be far off the mark.  The entire point of these drug tests is for the principal to hand his brother $100,000 a year worth of business.
 
2014-05-01 02:51:59 PM

Nabb1: what_now: Anyone who's  ever walked through the naked machine at the airport can shut the fark up.

That thing is produced by a company owned in part by Michael Chertoff, who was head of Homeland Security at the time.

No other countries use it. There have been not peer reviewed tests of it's safety.

Our illusion of security is making a some lucky people a whole lot of money.


Yup. I travel pretty frequently, and I always get my complimentary molesting. Every so often, the TSA person will assure me that the machine is "Safe".  I usually polity explain that I don't trust her word, and they are often shocked, as if I'm in some sort of trustful relationship with the person checking to see if I have dynamite strapped to my tits
 
2014-05-01 03:01:52 PM
It is a private school.  The market will decide whether this a good thing or not.
 
2014-05-01 03:03:55 PM

Marcus Aurelius: sammyk: BMFPitt: It's a private school, then let them do what they want.

And then the parents can respond appropriately, ideally by firing this asshat.

You haven't spent much time with the kind of parents that send their kids to private school have you?

I sent my children to private schools.  I wouldn't stand for this.  I spent all that money so the school would kiss my ass, not the other way around.


Same here.
 
2014-05-01 03:04:28 PM
I've got a couple tests of my own that I would like to conduct on that redhead.
 
2014-05-01 03:04:36 PM

SlothB77: and that's the difference between public schools and private schools.


the other difference is they immediately expel any problem kids to public school so comparatively it's cake walk for them to operate.
 
2014-05-01 03:05:46 PM

James!: It's a private school.  I'm sure the parents are either happy about the testing or taking their children somewhere else.


Why not neither?

"It's the best chance for Johnny and Mary Sue to get into Yale!"
 
2014-05-01 03:06:03 PM
Also...

lolheaven.com
 
2014-05-01 03:08:05 PM

James!: cman: James!: Marcus Aurelius: James!: Or he's getting a deal on tests

No way.  The drug testing companies need to expand their markets, because just about everyone that can be drug tested, is already being drug tested.  They will try to expand this program to every welfare recipient, school child, social security beneficiary, and anyone else they can shove their crappy tests onto, all in the name of capitalism.

Without market growth, you wither and die.

Of course they're not going to drug test the people that really need it: the administrators.

Were you always this paranoid or did someone introduce you to weed?

How dare you befoul weed?

Don't get all reefer crazy, stony.  I have a packet of Ho-Hos if you'll just leave me and my family alone.



As a matter of fact, I'm after you and your family as well. About those Ho-ho's....
 
2014-05-01 03:09:08 PM
Anyone else notice the poppyseed bun or bagel has all but disappeared? I say bring 'em back, make sure everyone blows the drug testing kits.
 
2014-05-01 03:09:53 PM
It totally makes sense to discipline people who, despite otherwise demonstrating good behavior, have drug metabolites in their system.
 
2014-05-01 03:10:13 PM

sammyk: BMFPitt: It's a private school, then let them do what they want.

And then the parents can respond appropriately, ideally by firing this asshat.

You haven't spent much time with the kind of parents that send their kids to private school have you?


Actually we look just like the parents who don't send their kids to private schools most of the time, except we just choose to sacrifice some cash in order to get more than the bare minimum in education.  If you have the resources why shouldn't you?  Why would you judge someone else for trying to go above and beyond in order to give their kid the best chance possible at being successful?  Sure, private school is no guarantee for the future and plenty of successful people attend public schools.  It just seems kind of silly to not at least try to stack the deck a bit if you have the ability to.  A smart person would hedge their bets in any other scenario.  This is no different.

BTW not all private school kids come from "rich" families.
 
2014-05-01 03:10:27 PM

Diogenes: What are blanket drugs and why have I not be told of them before?  They sound fun.


Really big sheets of LSD
 
2014-05-01 03:10:53 PM
I don't so much mind the drug test as the way it's going to be used.

Regular student: Expelled.
Stinking rich student: Thanks for your donation.
 
2014-05-01 03:11:05 PM
I can pass a drug test, because I'm no fun.  I also accept free tuition and stuff so seek me out brah!
 
2014-05-01 03:11:12 PM

what_now: Anyone who's  ever walked through the naked machine at the airport can shut the fark up.

That thing is produced by a company owned in part by Michael Chertoff, who was head of Homeland Security at the time.

No other countries use it. There have been not peer reviewed tests of it's safety.


Psh. I get PERSONALLY groped by the TSA ... EVERY FARKING TIME
 
2014-05-01 03:13:26 PM
It's fun when your kids get into high school sports around here.  You've coached their little league teams, sat through endless Saturday wrestling meets, gotten to know all of the other parents.  Eventually, those who survive get to play varsity sports and all of that work culminates in the pinnacle of most of their athletic careers.  And then most of those careers come to an abrupt end at the hands of Ed's or Ignatius who will be the first to tell you that they don't recruit athletes.  Just ask 'em.  They'll tell ya!  Seven 350lb offensive linemen, a 4.2 running back, and three 6' 4" receivers in the area just happened to be looking for a superior Catholic education all at the same time, even though they're not Catholic.  Every year.
 
2014-05-01 03:14:55 PM
What's wrong with one family members private business forming contracts with another family members private business?
 
2014-05-01 03:15:53 PM
And this is why private schools shouldn't get vouchers.
 
2014-05-01 03:15:55 PM

James Rieper: I don't so much mind the drug test as the way it's going to be used.

Regular student: Expelled.
Stinking rich student: Thanks for your donation.


How could you possibly come to that conclusion?  Both students are equal sources of income.  To send one off because they're a "regular" student would be stupid.  I can guarantee that the school doesn't care how much money you have, as long as your bill is paid.

I don't agree with the drug test for what it is and the blatant conflict of interest.  Your argument however is just plain dumb.
 
2014-05-01 03:25:11 PM
The primary problem with drug tests is how bad the results are. They are wildly inaccurate, can't tell how much of something you've had, and have massively different detection abilities for different drugs. For example marijuana is easy to detect long after exposure but some really hard drugs are out of your system in a hours or days.
 
2014-05-01 03:29:11 PM

Diogenes: What are blanket drugs and why have I not be told of them before?  They sound fun.


Unless you get them from the British. In that case, the blankets have smallpox, not drugs.
 
2014-05-01 03:29:33 PM

James Rieper: I don't so much mind the drug test as the way it's going to be used.

Regular student: Expelled.
Stinking rich student: Thanks for your donation.


this

it's just a way to make sure the elite bloodline stays pure.
/adjusts tiinfoil
 
2014-05-01 03:31:06 PM
The comments section in the article is chalked full of derp.
 
2014-05-01 03:32:23 PM

BMFPitt: It's a private school, then let them do what they want.

And then the parents can respond appropriately, ideally by firing this asshat.


Liberals are very invested in controlling the private lives of everyone. Right thinking and right behavior must be forced on everyone.
 
2014-05-01 03:34:15 PM

what_now: Yup. I travel pretty frequently, and I always get my complimentary molesting. Every so often, the TSA person will assure me that the machine is "Safe". I usually polity explain that I don't trust her word, and they are often shocked, as if I'm in some sort of trustful relationship with the person checking to see if I have dynamite strapped to my tits


The funny thing is that while it is no doubt safe to the customer because no one flies enough to get significant exposure, it is the TSA operators that would be at risk if it wasn't safe, standing there soaking up low-energy x-rays all day at work.  Of course, they can feel safe knowing that the test data for them is unavailable, at least the last I checked.

wildcardjack: Anyone else notice the poppyseed bun or bagel has all but disappeared? I say bring 'em back, make sure everyone blows the drug testing kits.


Maybe where you live.  I got one yesterday at the deli on the way to work.  They're my favorite.

sethen320: How could you possibly come to that conclusion? Both students are equal sources of income.


The idea being that regular student A pops on the test and gets expelled, while rich student B pops on the test and his parents find a way to make the problem disappear by digging through their checkbook.  Donations above and beyond tuition is how these places thrive.  Just like colleges: you ever notice how every building is named after someone?  Usually it is because that someone wrote a 7-fig check.

My kid's school certainly can't get enough of fund-raising this and that, galas and silent auctions.
 
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