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(MSNBC)   Kentucky embroidery shop clarifies its policy: "We reserve the right to refuse to produce promotional products that promote homosexuality and freemasonry." Wait, freemasonry?   (msnbc.com) divider line 152
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2014-05-01 09:39:56 AM  
i51.tinypic.com
 
2014-05-01 09:42:36 AM  
What about the Stonecutters?
 
2014-05-01 09:51:56 AM  
Bye bye military contracts.
 
2014-05-01 09:56:43 AM  
I am TOTALLY cool with this.

P.M. Anson 575  A.F. & A.M.
 
2014-05-01 10:01:10 AM  
That's an unwise decision. The gays & the masons are probably the biggest demographics for embroidery.

/yeah-yeah, I'm off to the review board for a scolding.
 
2014-05-01 10:05:05 AM  

James!: What about the Stonecutters?


Like Roscoe?
 
2014-05-01 10:09:16 AM  
Is anyone here actually a freemason or knows one?  Am I wrong in thinking that they're basically just like the Elks or any other lodge, a drinking club that maybe has some rituals and charity stuff?
 
2014-05-01 10:10:51 AM  
Freemasonry.  Sounds communist.  The last time I hired a mason it cost me a fortune.
 
2014-05-01 10:15:00 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: James!: What about the Stonecutters?

Like Roscoe?


The Great and Beneficent council of the No-Homers.
 
2014-05-01 10:15:21 AM  
And once again the Dutch get a free pass.
 
2014-05-01 10:18:56 AM  
Embroidery is already a little gay
 
2014-05-01 10:19:15 AM  

Diogenes: And once again the Dutch get a free pass.


img.fark.net

approves.
 
2014-05-01 10:19:32 AM  
Maybe they just don't allow happy people.
 
2014-05-01 10:22:15 AM  
The question I wonder; is do the signs increase sales to people that hold similar opinions? If not why go with something that may discourage sales, the standard practice of ignoring people or providing poor service would work just as well. A small embroidery shop in KY that few people had heard of before did make a national site,  the Palin school of marketing is becoming widespread. Marketing via hate with the veil of religion to hide behind, with the supplemental bonus of wrapping themselves in the flag.
 
2014-05-01 10:37:18 AM  
They're being unnecessarily trolly about it, but as long as they're willing to serve gay customers (as well as masons I suppose) they should be OK.

As long as a gay person or couple can go in and buy anything that a straight person or couple could buy there, it's not discriminatory in the strictest sense.

Of course , the devil is in the details. No one should say that they should be required to embroider a Tom of Finland design on a pillow for example, but if they're willing to do 'John and Carolyn True Love Forever' they shouldn't be able to refuse 'John and Peter True Love Forever' either.
 
2014-05-01 10:43:08 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: They're being unnecessarily trolly about it, but as long as they're willing to serve gay customers (as well as masons I suppose) they should be OK.

As long as a gay person or couple can go in and buy anything that a straight person or couple could buy there, it's not discriminatory in the strictest sense.

Of course , the devil is in the details. No one should say that they should be required to embroider a Tom of Finland design on a pillow for example, but if they're willing to do 'John and Carolyn True Love Forever' they shouldn't be able to refuse 'John and Peter True Love Forever' either.


Look, if I can't go in there and spray the place down with my plentiful, very gay sperm, I say fark 'em.  I'm tired of being told I should go to the back of the bus.
 
2014-05-01 10:45:01 AM  
I'm straight but I like to sling hod in bib overalls with "Power Bottom" embroidered on the rump.

Would this place consider a minor text edit on my Carhartt's? Is that still in play?
 
2014-05-01 10:45:57 AM  

Diogenes: TuteTibiImperes: They're being unnecessarily trolly about it, but as long as they're willing to serve gay customers (as well as masons I suppose) they should be OK.

As long as a gay person or couple can go in and buy anything that a straight person or couple could buy there, it's not discriminatory in the strictest sense.

Of course , the devil is in the details. No one should say that they should be required to embroider a Tom of Finland design on a pillow for example, but if they're willing to do 'John and Carolyn True Love Forever' they shouldn't be able to refuse 'John and Peter True Love Forever' either.

Look, if I can't go in there and spray the place down with my plentiful, very gay sperm, I say fark 'em.  I'm tired of being told I should go to the back of the bus.


And that's why you're not allowed back in the Arbys.
 
2014-05-01 10:49:01 AM  
fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net
 
2014-05-01 10:52:12 AM  
Last month, Kentucky lawmakers voted to override Gov. Steve Beshear's veto of controversial religious freedom bill

Last month?  This shiat's been legal in Kentucky since June.

If the shop's owners have "sincerely held religious beliefs", and there's no "compelling governmental interest", Kentucky lawmakers said they are free to discriminate.

/Thanks, Baptists.
//assholes
 
2014-05-01 10:59:07 AM  
That's kind of refreshing. Usually they discriminate against Catholic secret societies in the South.
 
2014-05-01 10:59:17 AM  
What about members of the Loyal Order of Moose? I'm a Moose. I did not bite your sister.
 
2014-05-01 11:01:54 AM  

scottydoesntknow: [fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net image 403x168]




The handshake is a dead giveaway.

freemasonry.bcy.ca
 
2014-05-01 11:03:08 AM  

eurotrader: The question I wonder; is do the signs increase sales to people that hold similar opinions? If not why go with something that may discourage sales, the standard practice of ignoring people or providing poor service would work just as well. A small embroidery shop in KY that few people had heard of before did make a national site,  the Palin school of marketing is becoming widespread. Marketing via hate with the veil of religion to hide behind, with the supplemental bonus of wrapping themselves in the flag.


I think there's actually a concerted effort among certain types of social conservatives to only buy from ostensibly 'Christian' merchants, and to try to establish a somewhat separate economy that doesn't have to deal with all of Those People.
 
2014-05-01 11:04:30 AM  

scottydoesntknow: [fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net image 403x168]


Well, if it's that well-known, then it's hardly a SECRET society, now is it?
 
2014-05-01 11:04:34 AM  

Walker: What about members of the Loyal Order of Moose? I'm a Moose. I did not bite your sister.


I am also a Moose and I did bite his sister.  It was nasti.
 
2014-05-01 11:05:15 AM  
Freemasonry is gay, subby.
 
2014-05-01 11:05:35 AM  

Walker: What about members of the Loyal Order of Moose? I'm a Moose. I did not bite your sister.


Sure, that's EXACTLY the kind of thing a Moose WOULD say.
 
2014-05-01 11:06:27 AM  

nekom: Is anyone here actually a freemason or knows one?  Am I wrong in thinking that they're basically just like the Elks or any other lodge, a drinking club that maybe has some rituals and charity stuff?


I have friends who are Freemasons. According to some nutjobs, the Freemasons are all tied up in the illuminati, the NWO, and crap like that. In reality, they do a lot of stuff for the Shriners and disabled children.
 
2014-05-01 11:06:33 AM  
Doesn't matter, Kentucky was already on the "States not to live in" list.  I will probably have to visit at least once to do the bourbon trail but that's about it.  Saw the mammoth caves as a kid.
 
2014-05-01 11:07:09 AM  
One of my neighbors was a free mason.  I think it consisted of drinking all weekend and falling down.  Or maybe that was just because he was a Scot.  Drank with him and his wife once in their basement bar....Don't remember leaving, but I did at some point.
 
2014-05-01 11:07:48 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: They're being unnecessarily trolly about it, but as long as they're willing to serve gay customers (as well as masons I suppose) they should be OK.


That's the question. The headline on the article, as well as the lead, goes all trolly, claiming they won't serve gay people at all, but that's not what the sign actually says:

While we will serve all customers who treat our place of business with respect, we reserve the right to refuse to produce promotional products that promote ideas that are not in keeping with our consciences.

Of course, it's entirely possible (some may claim it's likely or even certain) that that's just code for "gays keep out." It's easy to interpret the part I bolded as "weasel words" that would allow them to say they interpret someone with any of the stereotypical traits of homosexuality as somehow disrespecting the place simply by walking in even if they're ordering sleeve patches for their bowling team. In fact, it's kind of hard for me not to think that, and fairly strongly. But not having talked to those in charge and getting a sense of what they're actually like in person, I'm reserving judgment.
 
2014-05-01 11:08:38 AM  

QueenMamaBee: nekom: Is anyone here actually a freemason or knows one?  Am I wrong in thinking that they're basically just like the Elks or any other lodge, a drinking club that maybe has some rituals and charity stuff?

I have friends who are Freemasons. According to some nutjobs, the Freemasons are all tied up in the illuminati, the NWO, and crap like that. In reality, they do a lot of stuff for the Shriners and disabled children.


And walls.  They build lots and lots of walls.  For free.
 
2014-05-01 11:09:10 AM  
Oak Grove? All of their business is coming from Ft. Campbell. 100% of it. Time to email the Inspector General and have this shop added to the Off-Limits Area list.

Gays can openly serve in the military now. This shop refuses to serve a portion of Ft. Campbell's personnel. Therefore, it's engaging in prejudicial behavior against US soldiers. Therefore, it should be off-limits. Cut and dried.
 
2014-05-01 11:09:39 AM  

Maud Dib: scottydoesntknow: [fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net image 403x168]

The handshake is a dead giveaway.

[freemasonry.bcy.ca image 670x510]


It opens doors, I'm telling you!
 
2014-05-01 11:11:04 AM  
If I recall the motto of the masons is In hoc signo vinces which in Latin means "In this sign [of the cross] you will conquer"

Christians hating Christians or anyone else by denying them from getting their initials embroidered on their undies is just stupid.
 
2014-05-01 11:11:08 AM  

MFAWG: eurotrader: The question I wonder; is do the signs increase sales to people that hold similar opinions? If not why go with something that may discourage sales, the standard practice of ignoring people or providing poor service would work just as well. A small embroidery shop in KY that few people had heard of before did make a national site,  the Palin school of marketing is becoming widespread. Marketing via hate with the veil of religion to hide behind, with the supplemental bonus of wrapping themselves in the flag.

I think there's actually a concerted effort among certain types of social conservatives to only buy from ostensibly 'Christian' merchants, and to try to establish a somewhat separate economy that doesn't have to deal with all of Those People.


There is: https://2ndvote.com

I use an app to frequent progressive businesses. It's a free country.

/or so I was once told
 
2014-05-01 11:11:16 AM  
What about the Benevolent Order of Antelope?
 
2014-05-01 11:11:24 AM  

abfalter: QueenMamaBee: nekom: Is anyone here actually a freemason or knows one?  Am I wrong in thinking that they're basically just like the Elks or any other lodge, a drinking club that maybe has some rituals and charity stuff?

I have friends who are Freemasons. According to some nutjobs, the Freemasons are all tied up in the illuminati, the NWO, and crap like that. In reality, they do a lot of stuff for the Shriners and disabled children.

And walls.  They build lots and lots of walls.  For free.


flatbrokebride.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-05-01 11:11:42 AM  

nekom: Is anyone here actually a freemason or knows one?  Am I wrong in thinking that they're basically just like the Elks or any other lodge, a drinking club that maybe has some rituals and charity stuff?


I happen to be a mason, but it's the shriners who are more the drinking club since regular masons don't party that hard... But yes...

And as I told my son, when he saw my ring and said "Ha ha, you joined the illuminati", I said "It's not much of a secret society if you can see our rings, emblems on our cars, and so on"...

And after reading that article, I saw nothing about masons in it... Am I the only one?
 
2014-05-01 11:11:44 AM  

ciberido: Walker: What about members of the Loyal Order of Moose? I'm a Moose. I did not bite your sister.

Sure, that's EXACTLY the kind of thing a Moose WOULD say.


Don't piss me off or I'm dropping ping pong balls on your head.

healingminds.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-05-01 11:12:41 AM  

nekom: Is anyone here actually a freemason or knows one?  Am I wrong in thinking that they're basically just like the Elks or any other lodge, a drinking club that maybe has some rituals and charity stuff?


Yep. My Grandfather was 32 deg. Scottish Rite. It's just a social club.

A concept that is, unfortunately, dying out with the loss of that generation...
 
2014-05-01 11:16:11 AM  
nekom

Am I wrong in thinking that they're basically just like the Elks or any other lodge, a drinking club that maybe has some rituals and charity stuff?

That's what they want you to think.

More seriously, there are lodges that are just that, but there are lodges that have some mystical stuff going on as well.
 
2014-05-01 11:17:05 AM  
Every time they accept a cash sale, they promote freemasonry.

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-05-01 11:17:31 AM  
I like the part about "immodesty."  When the Crazy Christers realize they have more in common fundamentalist Muslims than they do with secular Americans, we are all in trouble.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-05-01 11:19:51 AM  

gshepnyc: I like the part about "immodesty."  When the Crazy Christers realize they have more in common fundamentalist Muslims than they do with secular Americans, we are all in trouble.


these people make INSOC look straight thinking individuals.
 
2014-05-01 11:20:58 AM  

Arcturus72: I happen to be a mason, but it's the shriners who are more the drinking club since regular masons don't party that hard.


My grandfather was a Mason, he refereed to Shriners as "Masons with more money than sense"
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-05-01 11:21:53 AM  

LostInTO: One of my neighbors was a free mason.  I think it consisted of drinking all weekend and falling down.  Or maybe that was just because he was a Scot.  Drank with him and his wife once in their basement bar....Don't remember leaving, but I did at some point.


No... masons falling down drunk is pretty much the gist of it.  Being a Scot just enhances the behavior.
 
2014-05-01 11:22:11 AM  
Masonry opens doors. Including back doors. You see how this all hangs together now?
 
2014-05-01 11:24:19 AM  

gilatrout: If I recall the motto of the masons is In hoc signo vinces which in Latin means "In this sign [of the cross] you will conquer"


That'd be "Knights Templar" which is a subset group of Masons (all K.T. are Masons, most Masons are not K.T.).  KT requires you to profess Christianity, basic lodge Masonry can (theoretically) have Muslims, Jews, Deists, etc (no atheists, but it's on your say-so). Realistically, in lodges of 80-year-old white guys, a 20-something Muslim guy is going to get black-balled from joining every single time.
 
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