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(BBC-US)   Another week, another mass knife attack and bombing in Chinese train station that kills 3 and wounds 79   (bbc.com) divider line 17
    More: Scary, Han Chinese, Xinjiang, Xi Jinping, Uighurs, Train K453, long-term stability, ethnic tension, Urumqi  
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2014-05-01 02:39:17 AM  
5 votes:
Part of me wants China to take over the War on Terror. Just so I can stand back, give a little wave to the Middle East, and say: "Have fun!"
2014-05-01 12:35:48 AM  
3 votes:

cretinbob: Just think how much better China would be if they could own guns.


Imagine how much better China would be if they had basic human rights.
2014-05-01 02:46:05 AM  
2 votes:
cretinbob:   Just think how much better China would be if they could own guns.


I have no way to prove my theory on this but if Chinese citizens were allowed to own guns I'd say apart from the model cities of Beijing and Shanghai, many Chinese cities (especially in the industrial south near Hong Kong and the interior) would have a pretty decent homicide rate.  I'm not saying it would be like the US, but some parts of it wouldn't be terribly safe.

With one and a half billion folks, you're gonna have your fair share of  murderers, serial killers, scam artists, crimes of passion, etc.  Atleast in Southern China, there is no shortage of reported lurid stories about kidnappers, murders, robberies, etc.  Most Westerners don't know about it because a) state media avoids reporting such stuff; b) foreigners don't generally travel around the gritty industrial areas; and c)  crooks don't target Westerners because they'll get extra heat from the local cops.
2014-05-01 12:09:42 AM  
2 votes:
Seriously... how busy do you have to get to cut that many people? That's gotta take at least a little bit of time.
2014-05-01 11:17:31 PM  
1 votes:

Super_pope: ZeroPly: Super_pope: Like any other approval I'm sure you could file suit to create pressure, but you're sighting ONE man's case on an issue that was absolutely fraught with hysteria for years.  I'm sure others who are mistakenly on the no fly list didn't take a decade to get off.

This is why I don't talk to idiots like you. You're sure you could "file suit to create pressure". Yeah,bud, it's just a matter of filling up the I-HATE-FEDS-18J form at the local courthouse. Look, let me break this down for you Barney style:

(1) Rahinah Ibrahim is a woman, not a man. She's a Muslim scholar from Malaysia.You might want to read this: http://www.wired.com/2014/02/no-fly-coverup/ before you continue arguing about something you apparently know zilch about.

(2) She's an outlier because she's the ONLY one in 9 years who's managed to get themselves removed from the no-fly list. That's right, no one else has succeeded. You are completely wrong. Even worse, you are some soft handed cretin who has never dealt with the federal paperwork.

(3) Have you ever had a security clearance? If not, stop talking about them because you're making yourself look like a f*cking idiot to those of us who had one. I got mine through the US Army. It was still a mess.

You sound like some clueless twenty-something that's never owned a gun, and whose experience in these matters is limited to Internet discussions. Go talk to some people or read some books or something, because right now you're not helping the gun control argument at all.

Or in other words - you need to stop being an ignorant buffoon before you enter this grand conversation. Your ignorance is not as good as other people's knowledge.

WE LICENSE PEOPLE TO DO A MILLION DANGEROUS THINGS BUT GUNS ARE UNIQUE! BUREAUCRACY NO FLY LIST IM SMART!"


I submit that you've corroborated my viewpoint beyond my wildest expectations:

1. Hoplophobe wants a "reasonable" discussion on gun control.
2. Gun nut asks for a concrete plan.
3. Hoplophobe provides a half-baked plan without any details, relying on the efficiency of a nebulous and benevolent bureaucracy.
4. Gun nut points out several glaring holes in the plan, giving specific scenarios.
5. Hoplophobe has no clue how to answer any of these points, and starts appealing to emotion. Because children are dying!
6. Gun nut points out that hoplophobe has no knowledge of the area he is debating. (refer to: security clearances)
7. Hoplophobe gets defensive, and starts screaming incoherently in ALL CAPS BECAUSE IT'S A F*CKING KILING MACHINE!!1!

Did I miss anything? No, well here's my summary:

You're a moron. You're clueless. You have no experience. You don't think deep. You don't pay attention to details.  I think everyone reading this thread can see that. Learn something about guns (and maybe security clearances). I think you've embarassed yourself enough for one day.
2014-05-01 03:34:59 PM  
1 votes:

Super_pope: Like any other approval I'm sure you could file suit to create pressure, but you're sighting ONE man's case on an issue that was absolutely fraught with hysteria for years.  I'm sure others who are mistakenly on the no fly list didn't take a decade to get off.


This is why I don't talk to idiots like you. You're sure you could "file suit to create pressure". Yeah,bud, it's just a matter of filling up the I-HATE-FEDS-18J form at the local courthouse. Look, let me break this down for you Barney style:

(1) Rahinah Ibrahim is a woman, not a man. She's a Muslim scholar from Malaysia.You might want to read this: http://www.wired.com/2014/02/no-fly-coverup/ before you continue arguing about something you apparently know zilch about.

(2) She's an outlier because she's the ONLY one in 9 years who's managed to get themselves removed from the no-fly list. That's right, no one else has succeeded. You are completely wrong. Even worse, you are some soft handed cretin who has never dealt with the federal paperwork.

(3) Have you ever had a security clearance? If not, stop talking about them because you're making yourself look like a f*cking idiot to those of us who had one. I got mine through the US Army. It was still a mess.

You sound like some clueless twenty-something that's never owned a gun, and whose experience in these matters is limited to Internet discussions. Go talk to some people or read some books or something, because right now you're not helping the gun control argument at all.

Or in other words - you need to stop being an ignorant buffoon before you enter this grand conversation. Your ignorance is not as good as other people's knowledge.
2014-05-01 01:26:43 PM  
1 votes:

Super_pope: ZeroPly: to run a secret no-fly list to run a no-gun list.

Why?  A gun is pretty much a total luxury.  Almost nobody ever NEEDS one unless they drive a cab or work at a frequently robbed store etc etc.  If it takes you a year to get approved for guns, or even 2, who cares?  It just doesn't seem like something that's like... actually important.

"HEY I CAN'T GET NO MORE GUNS CAUSE THEYS THINK MAH MILITIA MEMBERSHIP MAKES ME DANGEROUS!  IF I KNEW WHO DENIED ME I'D SHOOT EM!"

- This is what I hear when someone acts like not being able to get a gun the second you want one is a big deal


See, this right here is what the "reasonable" crowd has to offer. And people are surprised that the second amendment people doesn't want to even talk to them?
2014-05-01 09:54:20 AM  
1 votes:
If only a responsible knife owner had been present!
2014-05-01 09:19:52 AM  
1 votes:

Dedmon: Fark It: fusillade762: Fark It: cretinbob: Just think how much better China would be if they could own guns.

We should be more like China when it comes to the rights of the people.

I'd settle for Australia.

Confiscation, eh?  At least you're honest.

I am a gun owner for recreational sporting. My grandfather has thwarted two attempted burglaries, and my whole family likes to hunt. However, I am absolutely sick of the bullshiat that you gun nuts keep spewing. If we can not have a rational discussion about solutions to the problems that guns create, then you can now honestly count me in as a gun grabber.


Australia did have a confiscation program.  It's not paranoia to bring up confiscation when people start arguing to emulate a country that has had confiscation.

I say we amend the constitution to strike the second amendment all together.

randolphmiddleschool.wikispaces.com

So much for that '"rational discussion" you want....

You NRA nut balls have proven that you will not accept any reasonable regulation what so ever, you are now extremist and are completely blinded by your fears.

Not in the NRA, like the overwhelming majority of gun owners.  The extreme position is that of wanting to turn gun ownership into a privilege and advocating for confiscation.
2014-05-01 02:59:41 AM  
1 votes:

optional: Part of me wants China to take over the War on Terror. Just so I can stand back, give a little wave to the Middle East, and say: "Have fun!"


The War on Terror has nothing to do with the Middle East, and everything to do with continuing to fund the military industrial complex and enable the slow, continuing descent into becoming a police state.

If every terrorist in the Middle East were to drop dead tomorrow, rest assured that we would find someone else to shiat our pants over.
2014-05-01 02:30:12 AM  
1 votes:
Beijing blames the violence on separatists from the mainly Muslim Uighur minority.

Is there anybody on the planet the religion of peace isn't pissed off at?
2014-05-01 01:29:10 AM  
1 votes:
If you had universal healthcare people would be less inclinded to go suicidal and murder a bunch of people.
2014-05-01 01:08:00 AM  
1 votes:

Fark It: TuteTibiImperes: Fark It: TuteTibiImperes: When it comes to gun rights, certainly. I'd even compromise for a system like England or Germany.

But in those countries gun ownership is a privilege.

As it should be.

I knew there was a reason I had you on ignore.

/you should look up the word I bolded so you can understand what makes your arguments in bad faith


Ignore lists have never made any sense to me, but what is the point of ignoring your own choice to ignore your ignore list and read ignored comments?

/I really hope this comment doesn't get me ignored!
2014-05-01 12:56:05 AM  
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: Fark It: TuteTibiImperes: When it comes to gun rights, certainly. I'd even compromise for a system like England or Germany.

But in those countries gun ownership is a privilege.

As it should be.


I knew there was a reason I had you on ignore.

/you should look up the word I bolded so you can understand what makes your arguments in bad faith
2014-05-01 12:52:17 AM  
1 votes:

Fark It: TuteTibiImperes: When it comes to gun rights, certainly. I'd even compromise for a system like England or Germany.

But in those countries gun ownership is a privilege.


As it should be.
2014-05-01 12:36:08 AM  
1 votes:
The only way to stop a bad guy with a bomb is a good guy with a bomb.
2014-04-30 11:46:49 PM  
1 votes:
Just think how much better China would be if they could own guns.
 
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