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(New Zealand Herald)   Earliest image of Jesus found, appears to be a Selfie   (nzherald.co.nz) divider line 99
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2014-04-30 07:52:10 PM
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Looks like she was closer than we thought.
 
2014-04-30 07:55:42 PM
One of the earliest, subby, one of. It's obviously not Jesus, that's not a blond haired, blue eyed, 'Merican.
 
2014-04-30 07:59:57 PM
So from what i gather it may be an image of Jesus because they think it would be cool if it was an image of Jesus? That's their evidence?

/then again this article is from the future, so maybe they know something i don't know
 
2014-04-30 08:02:30 PM
FTA "Once inside, the team found five or six coats of paint on the walls, the last of which was from the Coptic period of the first Christians."

I'm always fascinated by how they will discard all the history following in order to see the original which they preserve in perpetuity. Did all those other paint layers which possibly represented hundreds of years of experiences not matter because you found the original layer and that is all that can tell us anything?

Not to mention the 45 tonnes of rock they had to move to get there. People don't move 45 tonnes of rock for the fun of it do they? What does that tell us, and what have you erased from the annals of time by moving it?
 
2014-04-30 08:18:51 PM
Experts at the University of Barcelona discovered an underground structure in the ancient Egyptian city of Oxyrhynchu which may have acted as a resting place for a number of priests.

Oxyrhynchu happens to be the name of my Pokemon.
 
2014-04-30 08:19:49 PM
So Jesus actually looked like Angus Young. I love God's sense of humor.
 
2014-04-30 08:24:45 PM
I expected someone taller
 
2014-04-30 08:29:51 PM
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2014-04-30 08:41:28 PM

AliceBToklasLives: [media.nzherald.co.nz image 619x310][gamedayr.com image 500x277]


So you're saying this is actually a picture of the antichrist.
 
2014-04-30 08:58:33 PM
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2014-04-30 09:13:01 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I expected someone taller


He's Jesus, not a stormtrooper.
 
2014-04-30 09:21:43 PM
Looks like Jesus is giving the Vulcan high-five
 
2014-04-30 09:25:21 PM

InterruptingQuirk: FTA "Once inside, the team found five or six coats of paint on the walls, the last of which was from the Coptic period of the first Christians."

I'm always fascinated by how they will discard all the history following in order to see the original which they preserve in perpetuity. Did all those other paint layers which possibly represented hundreds of years of experiences not matter because you found the original layer and that is all that can tell us anything?

Not to mention the 45 tonnes of rock they had to move to get there. People don't move 45 tonnes of rock for the fun of it do they? What does that tell us, and what have you erased from the annals of time by moving it?


That, unfortunately, is how archeology works a lot of the time. lots of shiat gets broken up and destroyed.
 
2014-04-30 09:25:31 PM
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2014-04-30 09:26:11 PM
Is there a title or name printed or did they just find an image of a person making a blessing and jump to the conclusion it was Jesus. Lots of people lived in the coptic period who would have been worthy of a painting
 
2014-04-30 09:26:40 PM
Mr Padro said he believed the archaeological remains allowed them to conclude the writer was aged around seventeen years.

Tagger
 
2014-04-30 09:29:31 PM
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2014-04-30 09:29:34 PM

InterruptingQuirk: FTA "Once inside, the team found five or six coats of paint on the walls, the last of which was from the Coptic period of the first Christians."

I'm always fascinated by how they will discard all the history following in order to see the original which they preserve in perpetuity. Did all those other paint layers which possibly represented hundreds of years of experiences not matter because you found the original layer and that is all that can tell us anything?

Not to mention the 45 tonnes of rock they had to move to get there. People don't move 45 tonnes of rock for the fun of it do they? What does that tell us, and what have you erased from the annals of time by moving it?


I took it as the 6th layer or 'last' layer was the outside one.  i.e. there were several coats, all pre-dating that time.  The last one was this one then the room was sealed nearly 2000 years ago.
 
2014-04-30 09:32:17 PM

rev. dave: Is there a title or name printed or did they just find an image of a person making a blessing and jump to the conclusion it was Jesus. Lots of people lived in the coptic period who would have been worthy of a painting


Presumably bad article is bad and there are other obvious things.  Like it is a room where 45 priests are buried that were early Christians (article alludes to this but not well), or other such circumstantial evidence pointing that direction whilst they await translation/analysis of what they found.
 
2014-04-30 09:32:22 PM

Mega Steve: Looks like Jesus is giving the Vulcan high-five


Vulcan's play sports?
 
2014-04-30 09:33:00 PM

beer4breakfast:


so...He was married?
 
2014-04-30 09:33:12 PM

TheOther: Mr Padro said he believed the archaeological remains allowed them to conclude the writer was aged around seventeen years.

Tagger


"Imprints of my treasure mark your mother's brow"
 
2014-04-30 09:33:17 PM

Mega Steve: Looks like Jesus is giving the Vulcan high-five


That would explain a great deal of Star Trek mythology I think.
 
2014-04-30 09:34:36 PM

Bongo Blue: beer4breakfast:

so...He was married?


Wrong hand.

Duck Face?
 
2014-04-30 09:35:13 PM
And Jesus said unto them: "one in the pink, one in the stink."
 
2014-04-30 09:35:40 PM
I'm not even a king, why does Pilate keep calling me "The King of the Jews"?
After I carry this cross, can we go smoke a cigarette?
I really need one
But first,
LET ME TAKE A SELFIE
 
2014-04-30 09:42:04 PM

Shirley Ujest: Mega Steve: Looks like Jesus is giving the Vulcan high-five

Vulcan's play sports?


Just baseball.

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2014-04-30 09:43:56 PM

brandent: Mega Steve: Looks like Jesus is giving the Vulcan high-five

That would explain a great deal of Star Trek mythology I think.


The Vulcan hand symbol is a Jewish hand signal, possibly from Kabbalah.
 
2014-04-30 09:51:10 PM

InterruptingQuirk: brandent: Mega Steve: Looks like Jesus is giving the Vulcan high-five

That would explain a great deal of Star Trek mythology I think.

The Vulcan hand symbol is a Jewish hand signal, possibly from Kabbalah.


Well since they apparently stole it from the Vulcans during an alternate timeline first contact then sure that makes sense.
 
2014-04-30 09:52:04 PM

InterruptingQuirk: brandent: Mega Steve: Looks like Jesus is giving the Vulcan high-five

That would explain a great deal of Star Trek mythology I think.

The Vulcan hand symbol is a Jewish hand signal, possibly from Kabbalah.


One of the hand symbols used when the "feminine aspect" of god is present, I believe. I'm sure our resident mystics can expand on the symbology ssssssymbolism.
 
2014-04-30 09:53:31 PM
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2014-04-30 09:58:45 PM

SordidEuphemism: InterruptingQuirk: brandent: Mega Steve: Looks like Jesus is giving the Vulcan high-five

That would explain a great deal of Star Trek mythology I think.

The Vulcan hand symbol is a Jewish hand signal, possibly from Kabbalah.

One of the hand symbols used when the "feminine aspect" of god is present, I believe. I'm sure our resident mystics can expand on the symbology ssssssymbolism.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QodqIiZ0ls

Isn't "Jewish TV Network" just stating the obvious?

Zing!
 
2014-04-30 09:58:53 PM
Selfie selfie selfie selfie
 
2014-04-30 09:59:25 PM

beer4breakfast: [img.fark.net image 640x419]

Oh, Jesus Christ!

 
2014-04-30 10:02:13 PM

Witness99: Selfie selfie selfie selfie

 
2014-04-30 10:04:02 PM
Not earliest by a long shot. Dura Europos and Roman catacombs ca. 3rd-4th century.
 
2014-04-30 10:05:52 PM
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2014-04-30 10:05:57 PM
Known affectionately as Jesus "Crazy Eyes" Christ at the time.
 
2014-04-30 10:06:53 PM
"those are balls!"  ~Barry Zuckerkorn
 
2014-04-30 10:08:24 PM

Scaevola: Not earliest by a long shot. Dura Europos and Roman catacombs ca. 3rd-4th century.


The painting does bear some resemblance to the Good Shepherd in the Tomb of Calixtus, I believe.

/Rusty on my early Christian art.
 
2014-04-30 10:08:34 PM

Scaevola: Not earliest by a long shot. Dura Europos and Roman catacombs ca. 3rd-4th century.


Isn't that weird?  Third century!

I mean, think about it.  Imagine that in three to four hundred years from now, a cult of Macaulay Culkin springs up.  And a thousand years from now, he's seen as the one, true, and ever living god.

He banished evil as a child!
 
2014-04-30 10:21:44 PM

brandent: rev. dave: Is there a title or name printed or did they just find an image of a person making a blessing and jump to the conclusion it was Jesus. Lots of people lived in the coptic period who would have been worthy of a painting

Presumably bad article is bad and there are other obvious things.  Like it is a room where 45 priests are buried that were early Christians (article alludes to this but not well), or other such circumstantial evidence pointing that direction whilst they await translation/analysis of what they found.


TFA does mention that (though not the number). Image of a guy giving a blessing in a tomb full of early christian priests. There ain't exactly a large number of possibilities for who the painting represents.

Oh, and because the idiot who wrote TFA didn't mention it, this is from the 6th-7th century.
 
2014-04-30 10:21:49 PM
"A team of Catalan archaeologists.."
:
What do these guys usually dig up?
media.liveauctiongroup.net
Old plastic radios?
 
2014-04-30 10:27:11 PM
Is there a selfie of his pet dinosaur, and does it have crazy eyes too?  OMG, that's so ratchet.  I bet his dinosaur had tiny little arms hahaha.

To get serious for a moment....this uncharted territory that everybody's heading into these days....documenting EVERYTHING, making your "diary" public.....and the endless selfies.......

What will the longterm effect be?  This will extend to sex by rule 34, I guess that's what all the amateur porn is about.  I find it interesting how exhibitionist everybody wants to be now.  A bad thing, or not?  Maybe not.
 
2014-04-30 10:27:14 PM

InterruptingQuirk: FTA "Once inside, the team found five or six coats of paint on the walls, the last of which was from the Coptic period of the first Christians."

I'm always fascinated by how they will discard all the history following in order to see the original which they preserve in perpetuity. Did all those other paint layers which possibly represented hundreds of years of experiences not matter because you found the original layer and that is all that can tell us anything?

Not to mention the 45 tonnes of rock they had to move to get there. People don't move 45 tonnes of rock for the fun of it do they? What does that tell us, and what have you erased from the annals of time by moving it?


Welcome to archaeology, dear. You have to destroy the site to see what's in it. Yes, they had to strip those five or six other coats of paint to get to the original layer; and no, they didn't just scale them away willy-nilly; they documented them very carefully, took copious notes and samples, and agonized over what might be under each one if they stopped at layer four and kept that one. Now, I'm guessing that the other layers had nothing of note on them, since nothing was mentioned; very likely just whitewash or paint.

But that's the way it is. If they stopped at, say Hissarlik V, they would never have gotten to Hissarlik VI, which is where the Troy of the Iliad is believed to have been. If they stopped two levels up, Kenyon would not have discovered the lowest and oldest level of Jericho, now known to be the oldest continuously occupied location on earth. Because things are thousands of years old, and history is a series of layers, you have to remove the top to see what's underneath.

It's like a beautiful layer cake: No matter how beautiful the icing is, it's the layers that make it a layer cake, and not just a brick. And leaving the top of a site intact because history means that the bottom remains undiscovered, and unknown.
 
2014-04-30 10:27:59 PM
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2014-04-30 10:43:26 PM
how about his tomb? then we can do a DNA test and finally know every farking thing about him

some people think Jesus was black.  he probably wasn't blond and blue-eyed.
 
2014-04-30 10:49:15 PM
well, i cant see the other hand but is this just a coinkydink?  im looking at you, NDT.

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2014-04-30 10:51:12 PM

jsmilky: how about his tomb? then we can do a DNA test and finally know every farking thing about him

some people think Jesus was black.  he probably wasn't blond and blue-eyed.


What if somehow they found Jesus' tomb with a set of bones - and determine unambiguously that those bones are the remains of the same dude the Gospels are about? I'll bet it would have zero effect on Christians today.

/Highly unlikely they would find him (if he even existed), but possible. Far more unlikely they could identify him as such.
 
2014-04-30 10:57:38 PM

InterruptingQuirk: FTA "Once inside, the team found five or six coats of paint on the walls, the last of which was from the Coptic period of the first Christians."

I'm always fascinated by how they will discard all the history following in order to see the original which they preserve in perpetuity. Did all those other paint layers which possibly represented hundreds of years of experiences not matter because you found the original layer and that is all that can tell us anything?

Not to mention the 45 tonnes of rock they had to move to get there. People don't move 45 tonnes of rock for the fun of it do they? What does that tell us, and what have you erased from the annals of time by moving it?


I have the feeling you and I would've had a lot of awesome late-night conversations in college. Is it weird that, as awesome as the coed scene was, it's the late-night talks I miss most? Jeez that was a long time ago.
 
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