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(Al Jazeera)   Need more than one condom? New York thinks you're a hooker   (america.aljazeera.com) divider line 102
    More: Asinine, New York, New York City Council, Trina Vuitton, sex workers, stop and frisk  
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2014-04-30 04:13:59 PM  
 
2014-04-30 04:34:38 PM  
Ah, New York. Where they're so worried about your health that they try to tell you how much soda you can buy, but if you're carrying more than one condom you're considered a criminal.

So what happens if someone walks down to the corner store and buys a whole box of condoms? Do they call in SWAT?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-04-30 04:39:51 PM  
Does anybody have an informative article rather than a propaganda piece? What I get from the article seems entirely reasonable: possession of multiple condoms creates suspicion, but is not an offense.
 
2014-04-30 04:45:29 PM  

ZAZ: Does anybody have an informative article rather than a propaganda piece? What I get from the article seems entirely reasonable: possession of multiple condoms creates suspicion, but is not an offense.


"creates suspicion" is a convenient justification for harassment by the NYPD without a specific reason. Like if a cop wants to give a trans woman a hard time for carrying two condoms.
 
2014-04-30 04:45:38 PM  
YOU'RE a hooker!
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-04-30 04:47:46 PM  
Bloody William

Unless you go around wearing condoms as earrings, police have already decided to harass you by the time they start counting.
 
2014-04-30 04:50:38 PM  

ZAZ: Bloody William

Unless you go around wearing condoms as earrings, police have already decided to harass you by the time they start counting.


It doesn't make the situation any better, and it only further shows how your point that owning multiple condoms "creates suspicion" adds justification to an abusive force that should have less power to harass people, not more  No, it's not a reasonable thesis.
 
2014-04-30 05:05:39 PM  
What does owning more than one bulletproof vest make you?
 
2014-04-30 05:08:06 PM  
Last time I read something about it, condom use is extremely low among hookers.
 
2014-04-30 05:24:10 PM  

lockers: Last time I read something about it, condom use is extremely low among hookers.


Sure, "read"... Find better hookers.
 
2014-04-30 05:32:29 PM  
So someone buys a box of a dozen, planning to give their honey a weekend they won't forget, and now they're a criminal?
 
2014-04-30 05:55:12 PM  
The New York police department sure hates new yorkers.  Woman with too many condoms?  Hooker; enjoy jail.  Black?  Must be armed; enjoy pat down followed by jail.   Hm, I guess there's one group of people they don't hate.
 
2014-04-30 05:58:56 PM  

fusillade762: What does owning more than one bulletproof vest make you?


www.mediabistro.com
 
2014-04-30 06:01:31 PM  

Slaxl: lockers: Last time I read something about it, condom use is extremely low among hookers.

Sure, "read"... Find better hookers.


Better? Sounds like he's already frequenting the best!
 
2014-04-30 06:02:20 PM  
NYC.  LIberal paradise.
 
2014-04-30 06:03:05 PM  

Philip J. Fry: The New York police department sure hates new yorkers.  Woman with too many condoms?  Hooker; enjoy jail.  Black?  Must be armed; enjoy pat down followed by jail.   Hm, I guess there's one group of people they don't hate.


If you watched the Occupy protests it's clear the NYPD can be equal opportunity haters under the right circumstances.
 
2014-04-30 06:12:57 PM  
I am honestly surprised that the Federal judge that ruled against Stop & Frisk didn't end up in a dark, damp cell in a NYPD precient, courtesy of an elite SWAT squad.
 
2014-04-30 06:15:29 PM  

ZAZ: Bloody William

Unless you go around wearing condoms as earrings...


Like these?

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-30 06:15:49 PM  
I can't wait to see how many "hookers" they get when the cops raid a frat/sorority party.
 
2014-04-30 06:17:54 PM  

Philip J. Fry: The New York police department sure hates new yorkers.  Woman with too many condoms?  Hooker; enjoy jail.  Black?  Must be armed; enjoy pat down followed by jail.   Hm, I guess there's one group of people they don't hate.


White male donut bakers?
 
2014-04-30 06:20:48 PM  

fusillade762: What does owning more than one bulletproof vest make you?


If you're Old Dirty Bastard, it makes you a felon:

Rapper Ol' Dirty Bastard, who survived being fired on by Brooklyn cops last month, was arrested in Los Angeles for wearing a bulletproof vest, authorities said yesterday. The Wu-Tang Clan star, whose real name is Russell Jones, was pulled over Tuesday night for driving erratically. He was arrested for wearing a bulletproof vest a no-no because of his felony record, an LAPD spokesman said. Jones, 30, faces up to three years in jail for the offense. He was freed on $18,000 bail. It was unclear when the rapper began wearing the vest, but he's had more than his share of experience with gunfire. Last year, he was wounded during a Brooklyn robbery. Last month, Brooklyn cops pulled over Jones and a relative for driving without headlights and opened fire on the van after cops said Jones shot at them. No one was injured. Earlier this month, a grand jury refused to indict the rapper because no gun was recovered. Jones was wearing a bullet-proof vest in that incident, and that was included in the charges filed by cops. A lawyer for Jones was not immediately available for comment. Alternate name: Russell Jones
 
2014-04-30 06:21:57 PM  

socodog: NYC.  LIberal paradise.


'Bagger, please.
 
2014-04-30 06:22:07 PM  

ZAZ: Does anybody have an informative article rather than a propaganda piece? What I get from the article seems entirely reasonable: possession of multiple condoms creates suspicion, but is not an offense.


The article doesn't say "creates suspicions" it says "is grounds for arrest"
From the actual text of the bill
New Section 60.47 would be added to the Criminal Procedure Law to prohibit the introduction of possession of a condom or other contraceptive device in NY trial, hearing or proceeding pursuant to Section 60.42 of the criminal procedure law or Section 240.37 of the penal law for the purpose of establishing probable cause for an arrest or proving any person's commission or attempted commission of such offense.

So the bill bans using condoms as probable cause for arrest on sex work related offences. Which if I am not misreading means that a cop can haul you in for having multiple condoms, and the prosecutor will gladly use that as evidence that you're a prostitute with no other justification necessary.
 
2014-04-30 06:23:05 PM  

oldernell: So someone buys a box of a dozen, planning to give their honey a weekend they won't forget, and now they're a criminal?


Not only a criminal but a deviant as well. Only married couples comprised of one man and one woman should be having sex, and then only for the purposes of procreation. That's the only reason people should be allowed to marry in the first place so of course people with condoms are gypsies, tramps, or thieves.

/deviant
 
2014-04-30 06:23:23 PM  
If the first one breaks, God wants you to get pregnant/die of AIDS. Don't fight it.
 
2014-04-30 06:23:47 PM  

Jormungandr: ZAZ: Does anybody have an informative article rather than a propaganda piece? What I get from the article seems entirely reasonable: possession of multiple condoms creates suspicion, but is not an offense.

The article doesn't say "creates suspicions" it says "is grounds for arrest"
From the actual text of the bill
New Section 60.47 would be added to the Criminal Procedure Law to prohibit the introduction of possession of a condom or other contraceptive device in NY trial, hearing or proceeding pursuant to Section 60.42 of the criminal procedure law or Section 240.37 of the penal law for the purpose of establishing probable cause for an arrest or proving any person's commission or attempted commission of such offense.

So the bill bans using condoms as probable cause for arrest on sex work related offences. Which if I am not misreading means that a cop

currently can haul you in for having multiple condoms, and the prosecutor will gladly use that as evidence that you're a prostitute with no other justification necessary.


FTFM
 
2014-04-30 06:27:54 PM  
I worry that this is basically  "I've have profiled this person and want to hassle them, what excuse can I use?"

Close this loophole, and they likely to come up with some other excuse.  "Possession of Burglary  tools: Cellphone because a lookout can call and warn them when they are robbing a place"

Address the root problem.  Fine police personally every time they haul someone in and charges get dismissed (over some given reasonable allowance), maybe they'll think twice before profiling
 
2014-04-30 06:28:23 PM  

Pokey.Clyde: Ah, New York.


That's all that needs to be said.

Nanny state.
 
2014-04-30 06:28:34 PM  
I'm pretty sure this fortune cookie is telling me to masturbate...

i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-30 06:31:50 PM  

socodog: NYC.  LIberal paradise.


I <3 NY
 
2014-04-30 06:31:54 PM  

a particular individual: Rapper Ol' Dirty Bastard, who survived being fired on by Brooklyn cops last month, was arrested in Los Angeles for wearing a bulletproof vest,


Sounds like there may be a market on Etsy for craft made meteor proof vests to protect your torso from rapidly moving bits of nickle iron that just may happen to rain from the sky.   No rule against wearing one of those, is there?
 
2014-04-30 06:31:55 PM  

sendtodave: Pokey.Clyde: Ah, New York.

That's all that needs to be said.

Nanny state.


Did anyone read the article? Some NYC cops have been doing f*cked-up sh*t (news flash: cops are often assholes, and not just in NYC), and apparently the city's going to do something about it. That's good.
 
2014-04-30 06:41:57 PM  

Dahnkster: I'm pretty sure this fortune cookie is telling me to masturbate...

[i.imgur.com image 765x1024]


I'm pretty sure that cookie fortune image could have been cropped.
 
2014-04-30 06:49:39 PM  
MORE than one?! I wish I just needed ONE.

/sigh, so lonely.
 
2014-04-30 07:02:18 PM  

socodog: NYC.  LIberal paradise.


Were it really liberal, prostitution would be decriminalized ( though maybe being a John would still have penalties ).
 
2014-04-30 07:04:48 PM  

Wooly Bully: sendtodave: Pokey.Clyde: Ah, New York.

That's all that needs to be said.

Nanny state.

Did anyone read the article? Some NYC cops have been doing f*cked-up sh*t (news flash: cops are often assholes, and not just in NYC), and apparently the city's going to do something about it. That's good.


Yeah, but this particular PD has a national reputation (see recent Twitter fiasco) of being abusive assholes. That's bad.
 
2014-04-30 07:12:13 PM  

fusillade762: What does owning more than one bulletproof vest make you?


A mall ninja.  Read.  It's hilarious.
 
2014-04-30 07:12:29 PM  

Pokey.Clyde: So what happens if someone walks down to the corner store and buys a whole box of condoms?


Try not to fark anybody on your way through the parking lot.
 
2014-04-30 07:12:54 PM  

fusillade762: What does owning more than one bulletproof vest make you?


T.J. Hooker
 
2014-04-30 07:16:06 PM  
Is it weird that I'm tempted to start carrying condoms just so I can bring down a shiatstorm of pain on anyone that calls me a hooker?
 
2014-04-30 07:19:02 PM  

stewbert: Wooly Bully: sendtodave: Pokey.Clyde: Ah, New York.

That's all that needs to be said.

Nanny state.

Did anyone read the article? Some NYC cops have been doing f*cked-up sh*t (news flash: cops are often assholes, and not just in NYC), and apparently the city's going to do something about it. That's good.

Yeah, but this particular PD has a national reputation (see recent Twitter fiasco) of being abusive assholes. That's bad.


SODIUM BENZOATE!
 
2014-04-30 07:29:16 PM  
Well, I guess I could just cover the front half.
 
2014-04-30 07:29:30 PM  
wait wait...

Can't have too big cup of soda cause you're Queens Fat Bastard?
Can't have more than 7 bullets cause you're Bronx Adam Lanza?
Can't have more than 1 condom cause you're a Hell's Kitchen Eve Lawerence?

What's next?

Can't have SPF30 cause you're a Manhattan Limbaugh?
Can't have a 40oz cause you're a Brooklen Crips?

/not enough sleep and a 4 hour gridlock make the Vegas wookie....
 
2014-04-30 07:33:36 PM  

socodog: NYC.  LIberal paradise.


That's sarcasm I assume.
 
2014-04-30 07:33:55 PM  

ZAZ: Does anybody have an informative article rather than a propaganda piece? What I get from the article seems entirely reasonable: possession of multiple condoms creates suspicion, but is not an offense.


Um... they're treating it as  probable cause, not just suspicion.  "Suspicion" is not police-actionable and can't be used to put someone in custody for 24 hours at a time.
 
2014-04-30 07:41:29 PM  

a particular individual: fusillade762: What does owning more than one bulletproof vest make you?

If you're Old Dirty Bastard, it makes you a felon:

Rapper Ol' Dirty Bastard, who survived being fired on by Brooklyn cops last month, was arrested in Los Angeles for wearing a bulletproof vest, authorities said yesterday. The Wu-Tang Clan star, whose real name is Russell Jones, was pulled over Tuesday night for driving erratically. He was arrested for wearing a bulletproof vest a no-no because of his felony record, an LAPD spokesman said. Jones, 30, faces up to three years in jail for the offense. He was freed on $18,000 bail. It was unclear when the rapper began wearing the vest, but he's had more than his share of experience with gunfire. Last year, he was wounded during a Brooklyn robbery. Last month, Brooklyn cops pulled over Jones and a relative for driving without headlights and opened fire on the van after cops said Jones shot at them. No one was injured. Earlier this month, a grand jury refused to indict the rapper because no gun was recovered. Jones was wearing a bullet-proof vest in that incident, and that was included in the charges filed by cops. A lawyer for Jones was not immediately available for comment. Alternate name: Russell Jones


So farkin' stupid!  Defensive clothing shouldn't even be looked at.  This has got to be idiotic fallout from the North Hollywood shootout.
 
2014-04-30 07:43:18 PM  
You would think Mayor De Blasio would just put down the edict to the police commissioner (who works at his pleasure) to knock it off and it would no longer be an issue.
 
2014-04-30 07:54:59 PM  
I know the last people who should be carrying multiple condoms are hookers.
 
2014-04-30 08:06:58 PM  

Mugato: socodog: NYC.  LIberal paradise.

That's sarcasm I assume.


Cops are dicks because liberals. Sounds legit.
 
2014-04-30 08:10:18 PM  
Sometimes you need a lot more

Huh image is too big?

ok see it here  http://www.talkingeasy.com/meaning/condoms.html
 
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