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2014-04-30 02:52:47 PM
I'm serious- give me a willowy girl wearing a sundress and combat boots, and I'm happy. And that light perfume that kind of smelled like grass...
 
2014-04-30 02:55:17 PM

t3knomanser: uber humper: Not a hell of a lot different than the rave/trance or house in the 90s.

Rave/trance and house weren't a lot different than the Eurosynthpop of the 80s. And honestly, if you reach back into the 70s, you have stuff like The Droids, which might have a bit of a strong disco flavor, they're basically the same thing as a lot of modern EDM.


Ur right.  And you can't leave Kraftwerk off your list

assets-s3.rollingstone.com

To me, it seems that the top 3 styles were the same then as now. In 30 years looking back there won't be a clear separation than say between the 1940s & 1950s, 1950s & 1960s, 1960s & 1970s, 70s 80s, 80s 90s. There were predominant styles that those years were known for with clear demarcations.
 
2014-04-30 02:56:18 PM

Gonz: I'm serious- give me a willowy girl wearing a sundress and combat boots, and I'm happy. And that light perfume that kind of smelled like grass...


that was grass
 
2014-04-30 02:57:02 PM

Gonz: I'm serious- give me a willowy girl wearing a sundress and combat boots, and I'm happy. And that light perfume that kind of smelled like grass...


Would you like me to tell you about the flannel shirt I'm wearing?
 
2014-04-30 02:57:34 PM

CygnusDarius: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

Punk was still sort of a thing.
Glam metal was a rotting carcass (thank God).
Even hip-hop was still good.
Jurassic Park was awesome.
LAN Parties.

The only bad thing was the rise of pop music by the end of the 90s


Don't forget, MST3K was still on.
 
2014-04-30 02:59:44 PM

Glitchwerks:

The 90s was when independent hip hop came up.  Tons of great artists like Company Flow (El-P), DJ Shadow, etc.
Glitchwerks: neilbradley: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

Fixed that for ya. I was in my 20s then, and was absolutely disgusted with 90s music and the culture of mediocrity, and still am bitter about it.

There was a fantastic amount of good music in electronic and hip hop.


THIS. The '80s might have spawned Grandmaster Flash and N.W.A., but the '90s brought us the Wu-Tang Clan.

As for electronic music, in the '70s there were Kraftwerk, the '80s had New Order. The Prodigy took it to a whole new level in the late-'90s.
 
2014-04-30 03:04:24 PM

DesertCoyote: Glitchwerks:

The 90s was when independent hip hop came up.  Tons of great artists like Company Flow (El-P), DJ Shadow, etc.
Glitchwerks: neilbradley: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

Fixed that for ya. I was in my 20s then, and was absolutely disgusted with 90s music and the culture of mediocrity, and still am bitter about it.

There was a fantastic amount of good music in electronic and hip hop.

THIS. The '80s might have spawned Grandmaster Flash and N.W.A., but the '90s brought us the Wu-Tang Clan.

As for electronic music, in the '70s there were Kraftwerk, the '80s had New Order. The Prodigy took it to a whole new level in the late-'90s.


Here's an uncensored Smack My biatch Up for the youngins out there.  I'm afraid it might me a little much for their sensibilities.
http://vimeo.com/44561183
 
2014-04-30 03:05:29 PM

uber humper: Here's an uncensored Smack My biatch Up for the youngins out there. I'm afraid it might me a little much for their sensibilities.
http://vimeo.com/44561183


That's NSFW
 
2014-04-30 03:05:53 PM

uber humper: Here's an uncensored Smack My biatch Up for the youngins out there.  I'm afraid it might me a little much for their sensibilities.


That probably was one of the funniest moments in history when that debuted on US MTV.
 
2014-04-30 03:07:24 PM

JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.


C'mon, There's something to be said for a porn pic showing piece by piece for 20 mins.  It's all about the build up.
 
2014-04-30 03:08:26 PM

Glitchwerks: uber humper: Here's an uncensored Smack My biatch Up for the youngins out there.  I'm afraid it might me a little much for their sensibilities.

That probably was one of the funniest moments in history when that debuted on US MTV.


It got banned by the BBC, too
 
2014-04-30 03:08:33 PM
Well I do turn 40 this year......40 good god never thougth I'd make it.
 
2014-04-30 03:08:51 PM

DesertCoyote: THIS. The '80s might have spawned Grandmaster Flash and N.W.A., but the '90s brought us the Wu-Tang Clan.

As for electronic music, in the '70s there were Kraftwerk, the '80s had New Order. The Prodigy took it to a whole new level in the late-'90s.


Despite some early experimenters, electronic music basically came into its own in the early 90's. The Prodigy went a lot more "pop" later in the decade. This is what they were like before they sold out.
 
2014-04-30 03:10:09 PM
I don't get the one with the spaceship segueing into a room with a guy in a jacket. I must be having a brain fart.
 
2014-04-30 03:12:54 PM

uber humper: Gonz: I'm serious- give me a willowy girl wearing a sundress and combat boots, and I'm happy. And that light perfume that kind of smelled like grass...

that was grass


Grass? Or grass?

Because, if it's the latter... that certainly explains some of the memory vacancies from that era for me.
 
2014-04-30 03:14:16 PM

Gonz: uber humper: Gonz: I'm serious- give me a willowy girl wearing a sundress and combat boots, and I'm happy. And that light perfume that kind of smelled like grass...

that was grass

Grass? Or grass?

Because, if it's the latter... that certainly explains some of the memory vacancies from that era for me.


that was acid
 
2014-04-30 03:25:22 PM

Skyrmion: Despite some early experimenters, electronic music basically came into its own in the early 90's. The Prodigy went a lot more "pop" later in the decade. This is what they were like before they sold out.


The first time I saw the "Firestarter" video was in a Las Vegas hotel room watching an obscure late night music video show on the UHF station owned by the family of Danny who now runs that Counting Cars shop. It blew my mind. This was almost a year before MTV (make that M2 and MTV's weekly "AMP" show) jumped all over it and "The Fat of the Land" was released in the U.S.

That's how far behind the U.S. is when it comes to cutting-edge music.
 
2014-04-30 03:30:06 PM

neilbradley: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

Fixed that for ya. I was in my 20s then, and was absolutely disgusted with 90s music and the culture of mediocrity, and still am bitter about it.


How Gex X'y of you
 
2014-04-30 03:31:18 PM
TheInternetIsNewSoEverythingHasToBeaURL.com
 
2014-04-30 03:34:06 PM

DesertCoyote: That's how far behind the U.S. is when it comes to cutting-edge music.


I wouldn't say we're behind, just that the mainstream media is pretty much dominated and controlled and likes to exclude a great deal.

I mean, the Prodigy's first singles and album were played all over the place in the U.S. and they were mainstays of college radio.

Aphex Twin became an absolute favorite among college radio listeners, and he was a lot more cutting edge than the Prodigy, so to speak.

So I think the music's always been there, you just sometimes have to lift a few rocks to find it.
 
2014-04-30 03:38:56 PM

techgeek07: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

C'mon, There's something to be said for a porn pic showing piece by piece for 20 mins.  It's all about the build up.


Oh?

Oh!

OH!

Damn. Panties.
 
2014-04-30 03:42:12 PM
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Glitchwerks: DesertCoyote: That's how far behind the U.S. is when it comes to cutting-edge music.

I wouldn't say we're behind, just that the mainstream media is pretty much dominated and controlled and likes to exclude a great deal.

I mean, the Prodigy's first singles and album were played all over the place in the U.S. and they were mainstays of college radio.

Aphex Twin became an absolute favorite among college radio listeners, and he was a lot more cutting edge than the Prodigy, so to speak.

So I think the music's always been there, you just sometimes have to lift a few rocks to find it.


I think that's what I got living in a large metro with absolutely no underground music radio until the last decade (well, maybe except for that flea-powered AM that can only be picked up on the ASU campus). Commercial alternative radio was playing the shiat out of "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" at the time.
 
2014-04-30 03:47:35 PM

Glitchwerks: DesertCoyote: That's how far behind the U.S. is when it comes to cutting-edge music.

I wouldn't say we're behind, just that the mainstream media is pretty much dominated and controlled and likes to exclude a great deal.

I mean, the Prodigy's first singles and album were played all over the place in the U.S. and they were mainstays of college radio.

Aphex Twin became an absolute favorite among college radio listeners, and he was a lot more cutting edge than the Prodigy, so to speak.

So I think the music's always been there, you just sometimes have to lift a few rocks to find it.


I know at my little college station we were allowed to play all sorts of stuff. I used to bring in my old vinyl and discs to play. We had special shows on all types of music from metal to indie. I loved playing all sorts of stuff from shoegaze to punk. We got new albums sent to us everyday and if it was good it got played. so yeah It was all out there you had to pay attention.

Too bad it didn't last. I think it was 1998 we got a new manager who stopped doing that to go to a more "mainstream" station. Ripped out the old board and installed a computer with an automatic playlist. Now only authorized songs were allowed. I was gone shortly after that. Took all the fun out of it.
 
2014-04-30 03:48:08 PM

Glitchwerks: I mean, the Prodigy's first singles and album were played all over the place in the U.S. and they were mainstays of college radio.


As I pointed out above, this is only true if by "first album" you mean "third album". They were obscure electronic music artists for several years before that.
 
2014-04-30 03:53:24 PM
Depressing: the 90s is now retro

Oh, poor you. Gen X isn't the very first generation to wake up one morning and suddenly realize they've gotten old, y'know.
 
2014-04-30 03:56:07 PM
Oh, or a girl in leggings and an oversize, long-sleeve t-shirt, with some hoop earrings? Or overalls? I'd forgotten the casual look. Maybe smelling like apple body wash from that one place?
 
2014-04-30 03:58:03 PM
flannel
potato sack hoodie


The 90s were a transition between a world with homes not having Internet to having Internet

I lived in Nick at Nite and MTV from 1990-1991
I was in a MST3k haze from 1992-1994
I remember hearing about people getting email in 1995.
Books would have an HTML and Compuserve address on them.
Windows 95 came out and every lost their mind.
AOL started sending things in the mail ... a lot.
I used Netscape in the new computer lab at the college to use INFOSEEK to find MST3K episode guides
I drove my brother up to the computer lab to show him the "Internet" and we looked up websites for Magic the Gathering info
1996 - I did an English report citing web URLs as sources. Professor had me stay after class to show the rest of the English department what this "Superhighway" was and how to use it for research.
1996 was also the time I felt I was "missing out" because the Sci-Fi channel had more info at scifi.com
1998 - a group of us were blown away by this "Flash" animation site called eye4u and wondering if that would be the future of the web
1999 - we were trying to download videos of people who made their own lightsaber effects as we waited for Episode I to come out.

/use to work with the guy who had one of the first star wars sound effects sites
//get off my modem
///nerd
 
2014-04-30 03:58:54 PM

Skyrmion: As I pointed out above, this is only true if by "first album" you mean "third album". They were obscure electronic music artists for several years before that.


No, I mean "The Prodigy Experience" album, their first album, not "Fat of the Land."

I wouldn't call them obscure either.

The Prodigy, Moby, Orbital, the Orb, Future Sound of London, etc. were all very popular among electronic music fans at that time.

Now, maybe there wasn't a lot of electronic music fans, but I assure you, those who were into it knew those artists.
 
2014-04-30 04:10:18 PM

Gonz: Oh, or a girl in leggings and an oversize, long-sleeve t-shirt, with some hoop earrings? Or overalls? I'd forgotten the casual look. Maybe smelling like apple body wash from that one place?


Dude, that was the 80's.

90's were grunge and flannel.
 
2014-04-30 04:23:40 PM

Modified Cornstarch: flannel
potato sack hoodie


The 90s were a transition between a world with homes not having Internet to having Internet

I lived in Nick at Nite and MTV from 1990-1991
I was in a MST3k haze from 1992-1994
I remember hearing about people getting email in 1995.
Books would have an HTML and Compuserve address on them.
Windows 95 came out and every lost their mind.
AOL started sending things in the mail ... a lot.
I used Netscape in the new computer lab at the college to use INFOSEEK to find MST3K episode guides
I drove my brother up to the computer lab to show him the "Internet" and we looked up websites for Magic the Gathering info
1996 - I did an English report citing web URLs as sources. Professor had me stay after class to show the rest of the English department what this "Superhighway" was and how to use it for research.
1996 was also the time I felt I was "missing out" because the Sci-Fi channel had more info at scifi.com
1998 - a group of us were blown away by this "Flash" animation site called eye4u and wondering if that would be the future of the web
1999 - we were trying to download videos of people who made their own lightsaber effects as we waited for Episode I to come out.

/use to work with the guy who had one of the first star wars sound effects sites
//get off my modem
///nerd


You forgot goatse.cx
 
2014-04-30 04:23:41 PM
The 90s are retro?  Does this mean that Urkel's suspenders and Blossom's lace sweater will be
in the Smithsonian alongside Fonzie's jacket and Archie Bunker's chair?
 
2014-04-30 04:25:29 PM

cgraves67: Daria wasn't bad, but MTVs slide into regular cable programming sucked.


The only think I remember about Daria is somewhat relevant to your post:
www.dariawiki.org
 
2014-04-30 04:27:33 PM

SMB2811: Gonz: Oh, or a girl in leggings and an oversize, long-sleeve t-shirt, with some hoop earrings? Or overalls? I'd forgotten the casual look. Maybe smelling like apple body wash from that one place?

Dude, that was the 80's.

90's were grunge and flannel.


tse3.mm.bing.net

It still around today.
 
2014-04-30 04:39:58 PM

SMB2811: Gonz: Oh, or a girl in leggings and an oversize, long-sleeve t-shirt, with some hoop earrings? Or overalls? I'd forgotten the casual look. Maybe smelling like apple body wash from that one place?

Dude, that was the 80's.

90's were grunge and flannel.


No, think back to, like, 1991. Going to your girl's house, hanging out in the basement. Watching Star Trek: TNG and making out.
 
2014-04-30 04:45:48 PM
For anyone who lived in the 90's the good part was that you were alive. And that decade was good, not sure where this "THE 90'S SUCKED!!" is coming from. There was a lot of great movies and music that came from the decade. And more than a few people made it through the decade without computers, PCs or the Internet. You self-pitying people are kind of sad.

/Misses places like Tower Records and bookstores.
 
2014-04-30 04:52:37 PM

skinink: For anyone who lived in the 90's the good part was that you were alive. And that decade was good, not sure where this "THE 90'S SUCKED!!" is coming from. There was a lot of great movies and music that came from the decade. And more than a few people made it through the decade without computers, PCs or the Internet. You self-pitying people are kind of sad.

/Misses places like Tower Records and bookstores.


Shoplifting from the internet is so much easier
 
2014-04-30 04:53:52 PM
As a counterpoint to everyone who says we have it so much better now than we did in the '90's:  I would like to remind you that the 90's were pre-9/11.  Artistically and technologically we may be in a better position but it could be argued we've gone backwards in just about every other facet of our society.
 
2014-04-30 04:55:20 PM

DesertCoyote: "Firestarter" video


Firestarter
Link
 
2014-04-30 04:57:09 PM
fubegra.net
 
2014-04-30 05:00:09 PM
Oh, and don't forget coffee. The early-to-mid 90s were a wonderful transition period for coffee in America. Before that, there was, well, coffee. Black, with or without cream and sugar. After, there was a Starbucks on every corner.

But for a few glorious years, coffee made its transition, and every place had little local shops springing up, with names that featured a lot of wordplay, and cappuccinos served in massive ceramic mugs.
 
2014-04-30 05:11:46 PM

t3knomanser: Glitchwerks: Punk had a decent revival, although that also brought about pop-punk with Green Day.

There was a punk revival, but it was basically strangled in the crib. You had the Riot Grrl scene. It's the decade in which Industrial really matured and came into its own. We can give it credit for Grunge, but sadly, Grunge turned into Hardcore, so that's not really a great legacy.

Glitchwerks: Tons of great music.

But that's not really unique to the 90s, though. Every decade has tons of great music. It's just that people tend to remember most fondly the music they listened to during their teen years. If the 90s had more great music than the previous decades, that's more because there was simply more  music produced in the 90s as the industry expanded. If we haven't found more great music in the 2000s, that's probably because we still don't have quite enough distance to know what was truly great.

Personally, I'm always excited about what's coming next. The future is always cooler than the past.


I would argue that "hardcore" was birthed from the ashes of the late 70's early 80's east coast punk and new wave scene and in particular the Washington DC / mid-atlantic punk scene and predated the pop-punk revolution of the mid 90's.
 
2014-04-30 05:14:43 PM

Tyrosine: neilbradley: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

Fixed that for ya. I was in my 20s then, and was absolutely disgusted with 90s music and the culture of mediocrity, and still am bitter about it.

I was in my 20s too. The most obvious high point to the 90s is that they were better than the 80s.


You hallucinate.

/I was in my 20s too
 
2014-04-30 05:16:16 PM

t3knomanser: teenage mutant ninja rapist: I could still understand rappers and people had not yet begun to tweek on energy drinks

I had a friend in high school who wore insanely baggy jeans with pockets large enough for him to store multiple two-liters of Jolt. And let's not forget that Red Bull hit the market in 1987.


Haven't seen a Jolt in a long time. Didn't know Red Bull was that old either. But ya when I think about it Jolt was pretty popular with some kids.
 
2014-04-30 06:01:54 PM

Driedsponge: As a counterpoint to everyone who says we have it so much better now than we did in the '90's:  I would like to remind you that the 90's were pre-9/11.  Artistically and technologically we may be in a better position but it could be argued we've gone backwards in just about every other facet of our society.


So much that. And gas was cheaper too.
 
2014-04-30 06:07:45 PM

Tellingthem: I know at my little college station we were allowed to play all sorts of stuff. I used to bring in my old vinyl and discs to play. We had special shows on all types of music from metal to indie. I loved playing all sorts of stuff from shoegaze to punk. We got new albums sent to us everyday and if it was good it got played. so yeah It was all out there you had to pay attention.

Too bad it didn't last. I think it was 1998 we got a new manager who stopped doing that to go to a more "mainstream" station. Ripped out the old board and installed a computer with an automatic playlist. Now only authorized songs were allowed. I was gone shortly after that. Took all the fun out of it.


We in the UK had a big advantage when it came to non-corporate music - the BBC.

In the early 90's the BBC had a revamp of its radio stations and changed Radio 1 from the populist station to being the 15-30 station and the 30+ moving onto Radio 2 (and kicking out or moving the old fossils from the 80's from Radio 1 to 2). This ment the likes of Joe Whiley, Steve Lamac, Tim Westwood, Judge Jules and Trevor Nelson were the leads of musical taste on Radio 1 with John Peel as the old hand and it seemed at the time that only half the music was the pop while the rest was brit pop/electronica/rap/indie/RandB etc.

In American terms it was like the dull mainstreem top ten radio station ot haneded to the college kids.
 
2014-04-30 06:24:25 PM
Musically, the 90's started awesome with the lalapalloozas and ended horribly with that Woodstock fiasco. Unfortunately, the alt-pop stations got stuck with the music from the end of the 90's.
 
2014-04-30 06:36:18 PM
 
2014-04-30 06:40:36 PM
cdn.shortlist.com
Would buy. Totally would buy.
 
2014-04-30 06:51:36 PM

McGrits: Musically, the 90's started awesome with the lalapalloozas and ended horribly with that Woodstock fiasco. Unfortunately, the alt-pop stations got stuck with the music from the end of the 90's.


So this "Riff Raff" character I keep hearing about is just Fred Durst in disguise?
 
2014-04-30 07:06:43 PM

The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight: The 90s are retro now?

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How about "The Tick" cartoon?  That was 90's right?
Ren and Stimpy?
 
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