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2014-04-30 12:55:20 PM  
What is that "Ay yi yi" robot thing?
 
2014-04-30 01:05:12 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: What is that "Ay yi yi" robot thing?


Ugh... I can't believe I'm going to say this: Power Rangers.

AHHHHHHHH!
 
2014-04-30 01:40:08 PM  
XTREME!!!!!!1
 
2014-04-30 01:41:57 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: Rev. Skarekroe: What is that "Ay yi yi" robot thing?

Ugh... I can't believe I'm going to say this: Power Rangers.

AHHHHHHHH!


Sad that I knew it, too.
 
2014-04-30 01:43:02 PM  
Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.
 
2014-04-30 01:45:37 PM  

JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.


Fixed that for ya. I was in my 20s then, and was absolutely disgusted with 90s music and the culture of mediocrity, and still am bitter about it.
 
2014-04-30 01:49:11 PM  

neilbradley: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

Fixed that for ya. I was in my 20s then, and was absolutely disgusted with 90s music and the culture of mediocrity, and still am bitter about it.


Thank FSM that everything is so much better now!  Right?
 
2014-04-30 01:49:46 PM  

JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.


FTFY. There were good things to come out of the 90s, don't get me wrong (I've been on a bit of a 90s movie kick- Falling Down is still great), but I am  not a fan of nostalgia. There are too many good things happening right now- why on Earth would I want to crawl back to what was popular when I was a teenager? That right there, that's a formula for getting old. I don't want to be old. I want to be  radical.

//"Radical" wasn't even cool in the 90s, don't kid yourself.
 
2014-04-30 01:50:06 PM  
Bring back Burger King table service!
 
2014-04-30 01:51:52 PM  

neilbradley: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

Fixed that for ya. I was in my 20s then, and was absolutely disgusted with 90s music and the culture of mediocrity, and still am bitter about it.


I was in my 20s too. The most obvious high point to the 90s is that they were better than the 80s.
 
2014-04-30 01:52:11 PM  

neilbradley: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

Fixed that for ya. I was in my 20s then, and was absolutely disgusted with 90s music and the culture of mediocrity, and still am bitter about it.


There was a fantastic amount of good music in electronic and hip hop.
 
2014-04-30 01:52:54 PM  

Embden.Meyerhof: Thank FSM that everything is so much better now!  Right?


It is. You couldn't pay me to go back in time and relive the 90s. It was practically a farking stone age.
 
2014-04-30 01:53:23 PM  
I can't think of a better decade for movies. :/
 
2014-04-30 01:54:42 PM  
Gremlins - 1984. Cool 90's nostalgia.
 
2014-04-30 01:54:52 PM  
The best thing about the 90s was the proliferation of the internet and commercial uses for it.
 
2014-04-30 01:55:13 PM  

neilbradley: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

Fixed that for ya. I was in my 20s then, and was absolutely disgusted with 90s music and the culture of mediocrity, and still am bitter about it.


Link
 
2014-04-30 01:56:27 PM  

JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.


Other than a national budget surplus, no multi-billion dollar wars being fought with our tax dollars, the emergence of a "world wide web" that offered the potential for limitless open access to knowledge and new ideas and a general sense of optimism about the future, yeah, what good was the 90s?
 
2014-04-30 01:57:32 PM  

mrjared: Gremlins - 1984. Cool 90's nostalgia.


Gremins 2, mofo! 1990! The New Batch!
 
2014-04-30 01:59:08 PM  

Crudbucket: mrjared: Gremlins - 1984. Cool 90's nostalgia.

Gremins 2, mofo! 1990! The New Batch!


So much better than the first too.. Loved that movie.
 
2014-04-30 01:59:41 PM  

StrangeQ: a general sense of optimism about the future, yeah, what good was the 90s?


I'm still optimistic about the future.
 
2014-04-30 02:01:36 PM  
Gremlins 2....
 
2014-04-30 02:05:38 PM  

JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.


Punk was still sort of a thing.
Glam metal was a rotting carcass (thank God).
Even hip-hop was still good.
Jurassic Park was awesome.
LAN Parties.

The only bad thing was the rise of pop music by the end of the 90s
 
2014-04-30 02:06:56 PM  
I'm not sure how the random blue graphic of Gizmo is Gremlins 2 and not the original, but ok.
 
2014-04-30 02:10:03 PM  

mrjared: I'm not sure how the random blue graphic of Gizmo is Gremlins 2 and not the original, but ok.


It's just a blown up portion of the larger Gremlins 2 piece.
 
2014-04-30 02:15:41 PM  

CygnusDarius: Punk was still sort of a thing.


Not really. Punk peaked in the early 80s, as did hip-hop. They were well on the decline heading into the 90s.

CygnusDarius: LAN Parties.


LAN parties were a bizarre cultural ritual. It is fun to get your friends together in a room and play games, but I can't say I truly miss the era of carting computers around to do it. There's something to be said for the console as a communal game-playing experience. The best LAN parties I had were when we would take over the college computer lab (most of my friends worked there) and run our games that way.
 
2014-04-30 02:16:58 PM  

CygnusDarius: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

Punk was still sort of a thing.
Glam metal was a rotting carcass (thank God).
Even hip-hop was still good.
Jurassic Park was awesome.
LAN Parties.

The only bad thing was the rise of pop music by the end of the 90s



Pop music didn't "rise", it changed.
 
2014-04-30 02:18:36 PM  
The 90s are retro now?

 4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-30 02:19:45 PM  

sethen320: Pop music didn't "rise", it changed.


The big change is that it appropriated the styles and fashions of "outsider" music from the 70s and 80s- punk and hiphop- and went all Borg on them. But even that's not really a change- since the advent of mass media, pop-music has built itself out of co-opting "outsider" styles into its core product, destroying their authenticity along the way. Let's not forget how Pat Boone spent a big part of his career covering Little Richard.
 
2014-04-30 02:21:48 PM  
Daria wasn't bad, but MTVs slide into regular cable programming sucked.
 
2014-04-30 02:22:08 PM  

JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.


Whatever do you mean? I could still understand rappers and people had not yet begun to tweek on energy drinks. We still didn't have to deal with george W.

The 90's sure as hell beats the last 14 years.
 
2014-04-30 02:22:15 PM  
As I told my 16-year old and my 20-year old just the other day, nothing good came out of the 1990's.
 
2014-04-30 02:23:39 PM  

t3knomanser: Not really. Punk peaked in the early 80s, as did hip-hop. They were well on the decline heading into the 90s.


The 90s was when independent hip hop came up.  Tons of great artists like Company Flow (El-P), DJ Shadow, etc.

Punk had a decent revival, although that also brought about pop-punk with Green Day.

Tons of great music.
 
2014-04-30 02:24:33 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: I could still understand rappers and people had not yet begun to tweek on energy drinks


I had a friend in high school who wore insanely baggy jeans with pockets large enough for him to store multiple two-liters of Jolt. And let's not forget that Red Bull hit the market in 1987.
 
2014-04-30 02:25:46 PM  

Wellon Dowd: As I told my 16-year old and my 20-year old just the other day, nothing good came out of the 1990's.


I'm sure they love you for that.
 
2014-04-30 02:31:04 PM  

Glitchwerks: Punk had a decent revival, although that also brought about pop-punk with Green Day.


There was a punk revival, but it was basically strangled in the crib. You had the Riot Grrl scene. It's the decade in which Industrial really matured and came into its own. We can give it credit for Grunge, but sadly, Grunge turned into Hardcore, so that's not really a great legacy.

Glitchwerks: Tons of great music.


But that's not really unique to the 90s, though. Every decade has tons of great music. It's just that people tend to remember most fondly the music they listened to during their teen years. If the 90s had more great music than the previous decades, that's more because there was simply more  music produced in the 90s as the industry expanded. If we haven't found more great music in the 2000s, that's probably because we still don't have quite enough distance to know what was truly great.

Personally, I'm always excited about what's coming next. The future is always cooler than the past.
 
2014-04-30 02:33:05 PM  

Glitchwerks: neilbradley: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

Fixed that for ya. I was in my 20s then, and was absolutely disgusted with 90s music and the culture of mediocrity, and still am bitter about it.

There was a fantastic amount of good music in electronic and hip hop.


Yes, that's true. I was speaking more of mainstream music than anything else. In fact, in about 1992, that's when I started listening to trance and European electronic music because I found mainstream music to be so abhorrent.
 
2014-04-30 02:33:43 PM  

Tyrosine: neilbradley: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

Fixed that for ya. I was in my 20s then, and was absolutely disgusted with 90s music and the culture of mediocrity, and still am bitter about it.

I was in my 20s too. The most obvious high point to the 90s is that they were better than the 80s.


Eh, 85-89 perhaps, but not before that. At least there was actual musicianship and experimentation. As I like to say about 80s music, even when it sucked, it was still interesting.
 
2014-04-30 02:36:18 PM  

neilbradley: In fact, in about 1992, that's when I started listening to trance and European electronic music because I found mainstream music to be so abhorrent.


There really hasn't been a point in history when mainstream music  wasn't abhorrent. As hipsterly fashionable as it may be to dislike popular things, Sturgeon's law applies- 90% of mainstream stuff is crap, because 90% of  everything is crap. The difference is that smaller segments of the media landscape mean a) there is less total  volume of crap, even if the percentage is high, b) it's easier to be passionate about and curate a niche, and c) there's more space for an ownership culture in a niche- fans are  participants in the culture, not simply an audience.
 
2014-04-30 02:37:12 PM  
By retro, you mean it never left?  I turn on modern alt music station and every 5th song is from the 90s.  In the '90s you'd never hear a '70s on a modern rock station

some of the new EDM is interesting but I can't say groundbreaking. Not a hell of a lot different than the rave/trance or house in the 90s.

What new music genre has been made popular since the 90s?
 
2014-04-30 02:37:43 PM  

neilbradley: Eh, 85-89 perhaps, but not before that. At least there was actual musicianship and experimentation. As I like to say about 80s music, even when it sucked, it was still interesting.


We need a more specific term for certain music eras. When I say 80's Music, I mean the period from 1978 to 1984. Many other people include the post-1984 period, which was an abomination.
 
2014-04-30 02:41:28 PM  

uber humper: Not a hell of a lot different than the rave/trance or house in the 90s.


Rave/trance and house weren't a lot different than the Eurosynthpop of the 80s. And honestly, if you reach back into the 70s, you have stuff like The Droids, which might have a bit of a strong disco flavor, they're basically the same thing as a lot of modern EDM.

Wellon Dowd: We need a more specific term for certain music eras. When I say 80's Music, I mean the period from 1978 to 1984.


That's mostly the 70s. It was the 70s until about 1982 or 1983. Every decade has a lag while it finds its identity.
 
2014-04-30 02:41:40 PM  

uber humper: By retro, you mean it never left?  I turn on modern alt music station and every 5th song is from the 90s.  In the '90s you'd never hear a '70s on a modern rock station

some of the new EDM is interesting but I can't say groundbreaking. Not a hell of a lot different than the rave/trance or house in the 90s.

What new music genre has been made popular since the 90s?


I wouldn't say it's that common, but it does piss me off when Sirius XM Altnation plays 14 year old Green Day and Blink 182 songs.
 
2014-04-30 02:42:22 PM  
Sweet! When does the new line of Generra Hypercolor t-shirts come out?
 
2014-04-30 02:42:25 PM  

StrangeQ: Tr0mBoNe: Rev. Skarekroe: What is that "Ay yi yi" robot thing?

Ugh... I can't believe I'm going to say this: Power Rangers.

AHHHHHHHH!

Sad that I knew it, too.


i believe you were looking for Alpha, the name of the robot.

/recruit a team of teenagers with attitudes
//caus that sounds like a good idea.
 
2014-04-30 02:43:32 PM  
I was 17 in 1993. There is nothing I don't like about that era. Nothing.
 
2014-04-30 02:44:09 PM  
img.fark.net

90's style, no


That's Larry King chic.
www.johntaylor.biz
 
2014-04-30 02:45:47 PM  

t3knomanser: Wellon Dowd: We need a more specific term for certain music eras. When I say 80's Music, I mean the period from 1978 to 1984.

That's mostly the 70s. It was the 70s until about 1982 or 1983. Every decade has a lag while it finds its identity.


I'm thinking of commercial punk acts like The Clash and Generation X, which swept out the 70's and ushered in New Wave.
 
2014-04-30 02:46:34 PM  

t3knomanser: But that's not really unique to the 90s, though. Every decade has tons of great music. It's just that people tend to remember most fondly the music they listened to during their teen years. If the 90s had more great music than the previous decades, that's more because there was simply more  music produced in the 90s as the industry expanded. If we haven't found more great music in the 2000s, that's probably because we still don't have quite enough distance to know what was truly great.


Sure, there's tons of great music from every decade, but hip hop wasn't in decline in the 90s.  Not artistically and certainly not in popularity.

I know that 90s punk is a pretty polarizing subject, but it did become very, very popular.

I'm pretty sure underground metal had a huge surge in popularity as well.

Tons of great music across the board.  It's just incorrect to say that only grunge was the good stuff to come out of the 90s.  Honestly, once grunge got picked up by the majors, there sure were a lot of useless Pearl Jam and Alice In Chain clones.
 
2014-04-30 02:47:28 PM  

cgraves67: I wouldn't say it's that common, but it does piss me off when Sirius XM Altnation plays 14 year old Green Day and Blink 182 songs.


I listen to alot of XM, too

The new "classic college station" 319 isn't bad if you are ever looking for the 90s. Hear some Dinosaur Jr. I haven't heard in a while
 
2014-04-30 02:52:25 PM  

t3knomanser: Rave/trance and house weren't a lot different than the Eurosynthpop of the 80s. And honestly, if you reach back into the 70s, you have stuff like The Droids, which might have a bit of a strong disco flavor, they're basically the same thing as a lot of modern EDM.


I respectfully disagree.  While synth pop is definitely a precursor and an influence to some degree, the 90s is where a lot of styles of electronic dance music began to really separate and distinguish themselves.

You can certainly trace the influences, but I feel the music was quite different.
 
2014-04-30 02:52:47 PM  
I'm serious- give me a willowy girl wearing a sundress and combat boots, and I'm happy. And that light perfume that kind of smelled like grass...
 
2014-04-30 02:55:17 PM  

t3knomanser: uber humper: Not a hell of a lot different than the rave/trance or house in the 90s.

Rave/trance and house weren't a lot different than the Eurosynthpop of the 80s. And honestly, if you reach back into the 70s, you have stuff like The Droids, which might have a bit of a strong disco flavor, they're basically the same thing as a lot of modern EDM.


Ur right.  And you can't leave Kraftwerk off your list

assets-s3.rollingstone.com

To me, it seems that the top 3 styles were the same then as now. In 30 years looking back there won't be a clear separation than say between the 1940s & 1950s, 1950s & 1960s, 1960s & 1970s, 70s 80s, 80s 90s. There were predominant styles that those years were known for with clear demarcations.
 
2014-04-30 02:56:18 PM  

Gonz: I'm serious- give me a willowy girl wearing a sundress and combat boots, and I'm happy. And that light perfume that kind of smelled like grass...


that was grass
 
2014-04-30 02:57:02 PM  

Gonz: I'm serious- give me a willowy girl wearing a sundress and combat boots, and I'm happy. And that light perfume that kind of smelled like grass...


Would you like me to tell you about the flannel shirt I'm wearing?
 
2014-04-30 02:57:34 PM  

CygnusDarius: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

Punk was still sort of a thing.
Glam metal was a rotting carcass (thank God).
Even hip-hop was still good.
Jurassic Park was awesome.
LAN Parties.

The only bad thing was the rise of pop music by the end of the 90s


Don't forget, MST3K was still on.
 
2014-04-30 02:59:44 PM  

Glitchwerks:

The 90s was when independent hip hop came up.  Tons of great artists like Company Flow (El-P), DJ Shadow, etc.
Glitchwerks: neilbradley: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

Fixed that for ya. I was in my 20s then, and was absolutely disgusted with 90s music and the culture of mediocrity, and still am bitter about it.

There was a fantastic amount of good music in electronic and hip hop.


THIS. The '80s might have spawned Grandmaster Flash and N.W.A., but the '90s brought us the Wu-Tang Clan.

As for electronic music, in the '70s there were Kraftwerk, the '80s had New Order. The Prodigy took it to a whole new level in the late-'90s.
 
2014-04-30 03:04:24 PM  

DesertCoyote: Glitchwerks:

The 90s was when independent hip hop came up.  Tons of great artists like Company Flow (El-P), DJ Shadow, etc.
Glitchwerks: neilbradley: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

Fixed that for ya. I was in my 20s then, and was absolutely disgusted with 90s music and the culture of mediocrity, and still am bitter about it.

There was a fantastic amount of good music in electronic and hip hop.

THIS. The '80s might have spawned Grandmaster Flash and N.W.A., but the '90s brought us the Wu-Tang Clan.

As for electronic music, in the '70s there were Kraftwerk, the '80s had New Order. The Prodigy took it to a whole new level in the late-'90s.


Here's an uncensored Smack My biatch Up for the youngins out there.  I'm afraid it might me a little much for their sensibilities.
http://vimeo.com/44561183
 
2014-04-30 03:05:29 PM  

uber humper: Here's an uncensored Smack My biatch Up for the youngins out there. I'm afraid it might me a little much for their sensibilities.
http://vimeo.com/44561183


That's NSFW
 
2014-04-30 03:05:53 PM  

uber humper: Here's an uncensored Smack My biatch Up for the youngins out there.  I'm afraid it might me a little much for their sensibilities.


That probably was one of the funniest moments in history when that debuted on US MTV.
 
2014-04-30 03:07:24 PM  

JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.


C'mon, There's something to be said for a porn pic showing piece by piece for 20 mins.  It's all about the build up.
 
2014-04-30 03:08:26 PM  

Glitchwerks: uber humper: Here's an uncensored Smack My biatch Up for the youngins out there.  I'm afraid it might me a little much for their sensibilities.

That probably was one of the funniest moments in history when that debuted on US MTV.


It got banned by the BBC, too
 
2014-04-30 03:08:33 PM  
Well I do turn 40 this year......40 good god never thougth I'd make it.
 
2014-04-30 03:08:51 PM  

DesertCoyote: THIS. The '80s might have spawned Grandmaster Flash and N.W.A., but the '90s brought us the Wu-Tang Clan.

As for electronic music, in the '70s there were Kraftwerk, the '80s had New Order. The Prodigy took it to a whole new level in the late-'90s.


Despite some early experimenters, electronic music basically came into its own in the early 90's. The Prodigy went a lot more "pop" later in the decade. This is what they were like before they sold out.
 
2014-04-30 03:10:09 PM  
I don't get the one with the spaceship segueing into a room with a guy in a jacket. I must be having a brain fart.
 
2014-04-30 03:12:54 PM  

uber humper: Gonz: I'm serious- give me a willowy girl wearing a sundress and combat boots, and I'm happy. And that light perfume that kind of smelled like grass...

that was grass


Grass? Or grass?

Because, if it's the latter... that certainly explains some of the memory vacancies from that era for me.
 
2014-04-30 03:14:16 PM  

Gonz: uber humper: Gonz: I'm serious- give me a willowy girl wearing a sundress and combat boots, and I'm happy. And that light perfume that kind of smelled like grass...

that was grass

Grass? Or grass?

Because, if it's the latter... that certainly explains some of the memory vacancies from that era for me.


that was acid
 
2014-04-30 03:25:22 PM  

Skyrmion: Despite some early experimenters, electronic music basically came into its own in the early 90's. The Prodigy went a lot more "pop" later in the decade. This is what they were like before they sold out.


The first time I saw the "Firestarter" video was in a Las Vegas hotel room watching an obscure late night music video show on the UHF station owned by the family of Danny who now runs that Counting Cars shop. It blew my mind. This was almost a year before MTV (make that M2 and MTV's weekly "AMP" show) jumped all over it and "The Fat of the Land" was released in the U.S.

That's how far behind the U.S. is when it comes to cutting-edge music.
 
2014-04-30 03:30:06 PM  

neilbradley: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

Fixed that for ya. I was in my 20s then, and was absolutely disgusted with 90s music and the culture of mediocrity, and still am bitter about it.


How Gex X'y of you
 
2014-04-30 03:31:18 PM  
TheInternetIsNewSoEverythingHasToBeaURL.com
 
2014-04-30 03:34:06 PM  

DesertCoyote: That's how far behind the U.S. is when it comes to cutting-edge music.


I wouldn't say we're behind, just that the mainstream media is pretty much dominated and controlled and likes to exclude a great deal.

I mean, the Prodigy's first singles and album were played all over the place in the U.S. and they were mainstays of college radio.

Aphex Twin became an absolute favorite among college radio listeners, and he was a lot more cutting edge than the Prodigy, so to speak.

So I think the music's always been there, you just sometimes have to lift a few rocks to find it.
 
2014-04-30 03:38:56 PM  

techgeek07: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

C'mon, There's something to be said for a porn pic showing piece by piece for 20 mins.  It's all about the build up.


Oh?

Oh!

OH!

Damn. Panties.
 
2014-04-30 03:42:12 PM  
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Glitchwerks: DesertCoyote: That's how far behind the U.S. is when it comes to cutting-edge music.

I wouldn't say we're behind, just that the mainstream media is pretty much dominated and controlled and likes to exclude a great deal.

I mean, the Prodigy's first singles and album were played all over the place in the U.S. and they were mainstays of college radio.

Aphex Twin became an absolute favorite among college radio listeners, and he was a lot more cutting edge than the Prodigy, so to speak.

So I think the music's always been there, you just sometimes have to lift a few rocks to find it.


I think that's what I got living in a large metro with absolutely no underground music radio until the last decade (well, maybe except for that flea-powered AM that can only be picked up on the ASU campus). Commercial alternative radio was playing the shiat out of "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" at the time.
 
2014-04-30 03:47:35 PM  

Glitchwerks: DesertCoyote: That's how far behind the U.S. is when it comes to cutting-edge music.

I wouldn't say we're behind, just that the mainstream media is pretty much dominated and controlled and likes to exclude a great deal.

I mean, the Prodigy's first singles and album were played all over the place in the U.S. and they were mainstays of college radio.

Aphex Twin became an absolute favorite among college radio listeners, and he was a lot more cutting edge than the Prodigy, so to speak.

So I think the music's always been there, you just sometimes have to lift a few rocks to find it.


I know at my little college station we were allowed to play all sorts of stuff. I used to bring in my old vinyl and discs to play. We had special shows on all types of music from metal to indie. I loved playing all sorts of stuff from shoegaze to punk. We got new albums sent to us everyday and if it was good it got played. so yeah It was all out there you had to pay attention.

Too bad it didn't last. I think it was 1998 we got a new manager who stopped doing that to go to a more "mainstream" station. Ripped out the old board and installed a computer with an automatic playlist. Now only authorized songs were allowed. I was gone shortly after that. Took all the fun out of it.
 
2014-04-30 03:48:08 PM  

Glitchwerks: I mean, the Prodigy's first singles and album were played all over the place in the U.S. and they were mainstays of college radio.


As I pointed out above, this is only true if by "first album" you mean "third album". They were obscure electronic music artists for several years before that.
 
2014-04-30 03:53:24 PM  
Depressing: the 90s is now retro

Oh, poor you. Gen X isn't the very first generation to wake up one morning and suddenly realize they've gotten old, y'know.
 
2014-04-30 03:56:07 PM  
Oh, or a girl in leggings and an oversize, long-sleeve t-shirt, with some hoop earrings? Or overalls? I'd forgotten the casual look. Maybe smelling like apple body wash from that one place?
 
2014-04-30 03:58:03 PM  
flannel
potato sack hoodie


The 90s were a transition between a world with homes not having Internet to having Internet

I lived in Nick at Nite and MTV from 1990-1991
I was in a MST3k haze from 1992-1994
I remember hearing about people getting email in 1995.
Books would have an HTML and Compuserve address on them.
Windows 95 came out and every lost their mind.
AOL started sending things in the mail ... a lot.
I used Netscape in the new computer lab at the college to use INFOSEEK to find MST3K episode guides
I drove my brother up to the computer lab to show him the "Internet" and we looked up websites for Magic the Gathering info
1996 - I did an English report citing web URLs as sources. Professor had me stay after class to show the rest of the English department what this "Superhighway" was and how to use it for research.
1996 was also the time I felt I was "missing out" because the Sci-Fi channel had more info at scifi.com
1998 - a group of us were blown away by this "Flash" animation site called eye4u and wondering if that would be the future of the web
1999 - we were trying to download videos of people who made their own lightsaber effects as we waited for Episode I to come out.

/use to work with the guy who had one of the first star wars sound effects sites
//get off my modem
///nerd
 
2014-04-30 03:58:54 PM  

Skyrmion: As I pointed out above, this is only true if by "first album" you mean "third album". They were obscure electronic music artists for several years before that.


No, I mean "The Prodigy Experience" album, their first album, not "Fat of the Land."

I wouldn't call them obscure either.

The Prodigy, Moby, Orbital, the Orb, Future Sound of London, etc. were all very popular among electronic music fans at that time.

Now, maybe there wasn't a lot of electronic music fans, but I assure you, those who were into it knew those artists.
 
2014-04-30 04:10:18 PM  

Gonz: Oh, or a girl in leggings and an oversize, long-sleeve t-shirt, with some hoop earrings? Or overalls? I'd forgotten the casual look. Maybe smelling like apple body wash from that one place?


Dude, that was the 80's.

90's were grunge and flannel.
 
2014-04-30 04:23:40 PM  

Modified Cornstarch: flannel
potato sack hoodie


The 90s were a transition between a world with homes not having Internet to having Internet

I lived in Nick at Nite and MTV from 1990-1991
I was in a MST3k haze from 1992-1994
I remember hearing about people getting email in 1995.
Books would have an HTML and Compuserve address on them.
Windows 95 came out and every lost their mind.
AOL started sending things in the mail ... a lot.
I used Netscape in the new computer lab at the college to use INFOSEEK to find MST3K episode guides
I drove my brother up to the computer lab to show him the "Internet" and we looked up websites for Magic the Gathering info
1996 - I did an English report citing web URLs as sources. Professor had me stay after class to show the rest of the English department what this "Superhighway" was and how to use it for research.
1996 was also the time I felt I was "missing out" because the Sci-Fi channel had more info at scifi.com
1998 - a group of us were blown away by this "Flash" animation site called eye4u and wondering if that would be the future of the web
1999 - we were trying to download videos of people who made their own lightsaber effects as we waited for Episode I to come out.

/use to work with the guy who had one of the first star wars sound effects sites
//get off my modem
///nerd


You forgot goatse.cx
 
2014-04-30 04:23:41 PM  
The 90s are retro?  Does this mean that Urkel's suspenders and Blossom's lace sweater will be
in the Smithsonian alongside Fonzie's jacket and Archie Bunker's chair?
 
2014-04-30 04:25:29 PM  

cgraves67: Daria wasn't bad, but MTVs slide into regular cable programming sucked.


The only think I remember about Daria is somewhat relevant to your post:
www.dariawiki.org
 
2014-04-30 04:27:33 PM  

SMB2811: Gonz: Oh, or a girl in leggings and an oversize, long-sleeve t-shirt, with some hoop earrings? Or overalls? I'd forgotten the casual look. Maybe smelling like apple body wash from that one place?

Dude, that was the 80's.

90's were grunge and flannel.


tse3.mm.bing.net

It still around today.
 
2014-04-30 04:39:58 PM  

SMB2811: Gonz: Oh, or a girl in leggings and an oversize, long-sleeve t-shirt, with some hoop earrings? Or overalls? I'd forgotten the casual look. Maybe smelling like apple body wash from that one place?

Dude, that was the 80's.

90's were grunge and flannel.


No, think back to, like, 1991. Going to your girl's house, hanging out in the basement. Watching Star Trek: TNG and making out.
 
2014-04-30 04:45:48 PM  
For anyone who lived in the 90's the good part was that you were alive. And that decade was good, not sure where this "THE 90'S SUCKED!!" is coming from. There was a lot of great movies and music that came from the decade. And more than a few people made it through the decade without computers, PCs or the Internet. You self-pitying people are kind of sad.

/Misses places like Tower Records and bookstores.
 
2014-04-30 04:52:37 PM  

skinink: For anyone who lived in the 90's the good part was that you were alive. And that decade was good, not sure where this "THE 90'S SUCKED!!" is coming from. There was a lot of great movies and music that came from the decade. And more than a few people made it through the decade without computers, PCs or the Internet. You self-pitying people are kind of sad.

/Misses places like Tower Records and bookstores.


Shoplifting from the internet is so much easier
 
2014-04-30 04:53:52 PM  
As a counterpoint to everyone who says we have it so much better now than we did in the '90's:  I would like to remind you that the 90's were pre-9/11.  Artistically and technologically we may be in a better position but it could be argued we've gone backwards in just about every other facet of our society.
 
2014-04-30 04:55:20 PM  

DesertCoyote: "Firestarter" video


Firestarter
Link
 
2014-04-30 04:57:09 PM  
fubegra.net
 
2014-04-30 05:00:09 PM  
Oh, and don't forget coffee. The early-to-mid 90s were a wonderful transition period for coffee in America. Before that, there was, well, coffee. Black, with or without cream and sugar. After, there was a Starbucks on every corner.

But for a few glorious years, coffee made its transition, and every place had little local shops springing up, with names that featured a lot of wordplay, and cappuccinos served in massive ceramic mugs.
 
2014-04-30 05:11:46 PM  

t3knomanser: Glitchwerks: Punk had a decent revival, although that also brought about pop-punk with Green Day.

There was a punk revival, but it was basically strangled in the crib. You had the Riot Grrl scene. It's the decade in which Industrial really matured and came into its own. We can give it credit for Grunge, but sadly, Grunge turned into Hardcore, so that's not really a great legacy.

Glitchwerks: Tons of great music.

But that's not really unique to the 90s, though. Every decade has tons of great music. It's just that people tend to remember most fondly the music they listened to during their teen years. If the 90s had more great music than the previous decades, that's more because there was simply more  music produced in the 90s as the industry expanded. If we haven't found more great music in the 2000s, that's probably because we still don't have quite enough distance to know what was truly great.

Personally, I'm always excited about what's coming next. The future is always cooler than the past.


I would argue that "hardcore" was birthed from the ashes of the late 70's early 80's east coast punk and new wave scene and in particular the Washington DC / mid-atlantic punk scene and predated the pop-punk revolution of the mid 90's.
 
2014-04-30 05:14:43 PM  

Tyrosine: neilbradley: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

Fixed that for ya. I was in my 20s then, and was absolutely disgusted with 90s music and the culture of mediocrity, and still am bitter about it.

I was in my 20s too. The most obvious high point to the 90s is that they were better than the 80s.


You hallucinate.

/I was in my 20s too
 
2014-04-30 05:16:16 PM  

t3knomanser: teenage mutant ninja rapist: I could still understand rappers and people had not yet begun to tweek on energy drinks

I had a friend in high school who wore insanely baggy jeans with pockets large enough for him to store multiple two-liters of Jolt. And let's not forget that Red Bull hit the market in 1987.


Haven't seen a Jolt in a long time. Didn't know Red Bull was that old either. But ya when I think about it Jolt was pretty popular with some kids.
 
2014-04-30 06:01:54 PM  

Driedsponge: As a counterpoint to everyone who says we have it so much better now than we did in the '90's:  I would like to remind you that the 90's were pre-9/11.  Artistically and technologically we may be in a better position but it could be argued we've gone backwards in just about every other facet of our society.


So much that. And gas was cheaper too.
 
2014-04-30 06:07:45 PM  

Tellingthem: I know at my little college station we were allowed to play all sorts of stuff. I used to bring in my old vinyl and discs to play. We had special shows on all types of music from metal to indie. I loved playing all sorts of stuff from shoegaze to punk. We got new albums sent to us everyday and if it was good it got played. so yeah It was all out there you had to pay attention.

Too bad it didn't last. I think it was 1998 we got a new manager who stopped doing that to go to a more "mainstream" station. Ripped out the old board and installed a computer with an automatic playlist. Now only authorized songs were allowed. I was gone shortly after that. Took all the fun out of it.


We in the UK had a big advantage when it came to non-corporate music - the BBC.

In the early 90's the BBC had a revamp of its radio stations and changed Radio 1 from the populist station to being the 15-30 station and the 30+ moving onto Radio 2 (and kicking out or moving the old fossils from the 80's from Radio 1 to 2). This ment the likes of Joe Whiley, Steve Lamac, Tim Westwood, Judge Jules and Trevor Nelson were the leads of musical taste on Radio 1 with John Peel as the old hand and it seemed at the time that only half the music was the pop while the rest was brit pop/electronica/rap/indie/RandB etc.

In American terms it was like the dull mainstreem top ten radio station ot haneded to the college kids.
 
2014-04-30 06:24:25 PM  
Musically, the 90's started awesome with the lalapalloozas and ended horribly with that Woodstock fiasco. Unfortunately, the alt-pop stations got stuck with the music from the end of the 90's.
 
2014-04-30 06:36:18 PM  
 
2014-04-30 06:40:36 PM  
cdn.shortlist.com
Would buy. Totally would buy.
 
2014-04-30 06:51:36 PM  

McGrits: Musically, the 90's started awesome with the lalapalloozas and ended horribly with that Woodstock fiasco. Unfortunately, the alt-pop stations got stuck with the music from the end of the 90's.


So this "Riff Raff" character I keep hearing about is just Fred Durst in disguise?
 
2014-04-30 07:06:43 PM  

The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight: The 90s are retro now?

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How about "The Tick" cartoon?  That was 90's right?
Ren and Stimpy?
 
2014-04-30 07:20:01 PM  

DesertCoyote: Prodi


I went to college in Thibodaux, Louisiana, and people at my little tiny backwards university were listening to Prodigy in 1992.

Also Lords of Acid and Mc900 Foot Jesus.

The early 1990s had a huge rave scene where the kids were pumping out all the jams, and club djs still had the smooth electronica/house thing going on without all the screeching.

I think maybe you were a little too mainstream is all.
 
2014-04-30 09:32:01 PM  

Tyrosine: neilbradley: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

Fixed that for ya. I was in my 20s then, and was absolutely disgusted with 90s music and the culture of mediocrity, and still am bitter about it.

I was in my 20s too. The most obvious high point to the 90s is that they were better than the 80s.


The 80s may have been shiat in a lot of ways, but it was probably the last decade from where there emerged any lasting iconic style.

Just think about cars: can you seriously imagine any lasting designs from the 90s onward?  As technologically superior as they are, the Aventador and Italia are utterly forgettable compared to the LP500 and 288 GTO, let alone designs from the 60s.  And I don't think it's too early to tell--the 80s were "The 80s" by 2000, easily.  There has been plenty of quality, just nothing with visual staying power for some reason.  Everything is too CAD-driven, plasticky, and ephemeral.  Other arts are also either too tech-driven, or compromised by hipster self-referential ironicism.
 
2014-04-30 09:43:58 PM  
I still have some gasoline receipts from 1997. Gas was 89 cents a gallon.
 
2014-04-30 09:56:30 PM  
The 90s were awesome. Pretty much everything was better then than now.
 
2014-04-30 10:08:36 PM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: Just think about cars: can you seriously imagine any lasting designs from the 90s onward?  As technologically superior as they are, the Aventador and Italia are utterly forgettable compared to the LP500 and 288 GTO, let alone designs from the 60s.


You're dead wrong on that.  The Italia is the most beautiful Ferrari besides the 250 GTO, hands down.

The Aventador is the best car Lamborghini have ever made, both visually and from an engineering standpoint.

The Countach is one of the worst cars ever.  It's only memorable because it looked so different from everything else.

There are tons of car designs that are going to be remembered from the 90s onward.

The best road car ever made was the McLaren F1.
 
2014-04-30 11:21:47 PM  

CygnusDarius: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

Punk was still sort of a thing.
Glam metal was a rotting carcass (thank God).
Even hip-hop was still good.
Jurassic Park was awesome.
LAN Parties.

The only bad thing was the rise of pop music by the end of the 90s


I miss LAN parties. I really enjoyed them. Xbox live/psn/steam just don't provide the same comaraderie.
 
2014-05-01 12:24:49 AM  

theflatline: DesertCoyote: Prodi

I went to college in Thibodaux, Louisiana, and people at my little tiny backwards university were listening to Prodigy in 1992.

Also Lords of Acid and Mc900 Foot Jesus.

The early 1990s had a huge rave scene where the kids were pumping out all the jams, and club djs still had the smooth electronica/house thing going on without all the screeching.


Is there anything more "90s" than the Oliver Adams / Praga Khan produced Mortal Kombat Album?
 
2014-05-01 07:28:32 AM  

Glitchwerks: There are tons of car designs that are going to be remembered from the 90s onward.


I don't disagree with your other statements--for example, I personally find the Italia more aesthetically pleasing to my tastes than the 80s cars--just not more memorable.  I find it hard to imagine it not getting lost among all the other supercars of the last 5-10 years from a broader societal standpoint.  Probably the Veyron is the only thing with any shot, and maybe the R8.

What car from the 90s has staying power?  Enough time has passed.  The F1 was an amazing machine but still unremembered by anyone but car people.  To further illustrate my point, the Ferrari F50 was technologically superior to the F40, but the F40 is easily the more remembered car.  I'd bet the F40 made a more lasting, broad impression than even the Enzo.

Again, I think the key word here is "iconic," which is independent of aesthetic quality but a quality (possibly unintentional) in its own right.  Today's design methods are not conducive to bold, iconic moves, intentional or not.
 
2014-05-01 07:37:48 AM  
I was born in 1981, so the 90s were my teenage years, so I'll always have a soft spot for 90s pop culture.

Even granting that bias, it's hard to see how the 90s weren't better than the 80s in almost every way.  In the 80s pop music was just terrible, Reagan was president for most of the decade, and computer and video gaming had not really become mainstream yet.  Though these things existed in the 80s most people didn't have a PC or a cell phone until the 90s.

And can anyone name a memorable TV series from the 80s that wasn't a sitcom?
 
2014-05-01 09:12:06 AM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: To further illustrate my point, the Ferrari F50 was technologically superior to the F40, but the F40 is easily the more remembered car.  I'd bet the F40 made a more lasting, broad impression than even the Enzo.


IIRC the F50 had some design flaws, which is why it was not as popular as the F40.

I know the Enzo had some design flaws, as those were well documented.

The Enzo's snap oversteer made it a very unpredictable, even dangerous, machine.

That is why those cars didn't leave a lasting impression.
 
2014-05-01 09:19:54 AM  

That Guy Jeff: And that's just TV shows and movies!


Yes, yes, yes. Other than roads, sanitation, representative government, and safe streets at night, what have the Romans ever done for us?
 
2014-05-01 11:14:30 AM  

Glitchwerks: Yankees Team Gynecologist: To further illustrate my point, the Ferrari F50 was technologically superior to the F40, but the F40 is easily the more remembered car.  I'd bet the F40 made a more lasting, broad impression than even the Enzo.

IIRC the F50 had some design flaws, which is why it was not as popular as the F40.

I know the Enzo had some design flaws, as those were well documented.

The Enzo's snap oversteer made it a very unpredictable, even dangerous, machine.

That is why those cars didn't leave a lasting impression.


Nope, plenty of flawed cars are remembered in the manner I'm describing. The F40 was older and not exactly perfect either.

While aesthetically appealing, recent cars have no discernible or iconic style, other than aerodynamically plastic-looking and designed in CAD.
 
2014-05-01 11:58:41 AM  

neilbradley: JudgeItoBox: Besides grunge music, there is absolutely nothing to be nostalgic over regarding the 90s.

Fixed that for ya. I was in my 20s then, and was absolutely disgusted with 90s music and the culture of mediocrity, and still am bitter about it.


I was in my teens in the 90s, and I can't remember anything I'm willing to get nostalgic over, except maybe the 90s hacker style. It's time for faux alligator pleather trenchcoats and wearing sunglasses all the goddamn time to be a thing again.
 
2014-05-01 12:03:40 PM  
And jncos. Dammit, it's high time Jncos made a comeback.

In my day, you weren't hip unless you looked like you were wearing a denim hakama.

img.fark.net
 
2014-05-01 12:12:55 PM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: Nope, plenty of flawed cars are remembered in the manner I'm describing. The F40 was older and not exactly perfect either.

While aesthetically appealing, recent cars have no discernible or iconic style, other than aerodynamically plastic-looking and designed in CAD.


The F40 is actually considered the last "pure" Ferrari, as it doesn't have the modern electronic systems that cars nowadays do.

That's why it's particularly romanticized.  It isn't because of the styling.

As for the iconic style, I disagree.  Cars today have quite dramatic styling and are very visually striking, even more so than the often romanticized design styles of the 60s.

But this is a discussion that, for now, is pretty much subjective and we're going to have to agree to disagree.

Time is what will prove who's right.  So we're going to have to wait a couple of decades and see what history has to say.

I know time will prove me right though, as the Aventador is simply the best Lamborghini ever made, and the Italia, while not the best in terms of performance, is going to be an all time classic, definitely surpassing the 288, because it truly is a beautiful car in every way.
 
2014-05-01 12:56:29 PM  

Glitchwerks: Yankees Team Gynecologist: Nope, plenty of flawed cars are remembered in the manner I'm describing. The F40 was older and not exactly perfect either.

While aesthetically appealing, recent cars have no discernible or iconic style, other than aerodynamically plastic-looking and designed in CAD.

The F40 is actually considered the last "pure" Ferrari, as it doesn't have the modern electronic systems that cars nowadays do.

That's why it's particularly romanticized.  It isn't because of the styling.

As for the iconic style, I disagree.  Cars today have quite dramatic styling and are very visually striking, even more so than the often romanticized design styles of the 60s.

But this is a discussion that, for now, is pretty much subjective and we're going to have to agree to disagree.

Time is what will prove who's right.  So we're going to have to wait a couple of decades and see what history has to say.

I know time will prove me right though, as the Aventador is simply the best Lamborghini ever made, and the Italia, while not the best in terms of performance, is going to be an all time classic, definitely surpassing the 288, because it truly is a beautiful car in every way.


Fair enough, although we have had some time since 1990. Compare 1965-1990 vs. 1990-2015--we still need more time but so far it's not looking good for the latter in this regard.

A lot of it could be about society and culture, not so much the designs themselves. Young people aren't as into cars as before, so we may not be making icons out of cars as much. The Testarossa, one of the most iconic cars ever, is actually a pretty mundane design in my book.
 
2014-05-01 02:22:12 PM  

Gonz: I'm serious- give me a willowy girl wearing a sundress and combat boots, and I'm happy. And that light perfume that kind of smelled like grass...


I liked that look.
 
2014-05-01 07:23:57 PM  
Art is complete bullshiat.

Ren should be reaching for a finsky in the Nevermind tribute.


ts4.mm.bing.net
 
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