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(Talking Points Memo)   Conservative outreach to the minority community continues as Rush Limbaugh and other derpsters float the theory that Donald Sterling was set up to allow Magic Johnson to buy the Clippers   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 186
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2014-04-30 09:01:17 AM
My wife's friend's husband was spouting this shiat verbatim just the other day..

Amazing how small minds work..
 
2014-04-30 09:03:50 AM
To paraphrase what someone here said yesterday: "You lose all right to claim you were 'set up' five minutes into your ten minute racist rant."
 
2014-04-30 09:08:21 AM
biatch set him up.
 
2014-04-30 09:08:53 AM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: To paraphrase what someone here said yesterday: "You lose all right to claim you were 'set up' five minutes into your ten minute racist rant."


That was me and I "borrowed" it from Andy Borowitz.
 
2014-04-30 09:14:46 AM
I wonder if she will be arrested for making a recording without his knowledge.

/gets a kick how the NBA ignored his historic racism and decides to go after him now....


after he was recorded

after it was released to the public

after everybody started to have a seizure over his comments


//lol
 
2014-04-30 09:19:59 AM

markie_farkie: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: To paraphrase what someone here said yesterday: "You lose all right to claim you were 'set up' five minutes into your ten minute racist rant."

That was me and I "borrowed" it from Andy Borowitz.


Sounds like a set-up to me.
 
2014-04-30 09:21:00 AM

SauronWasFramed: /gets a kick how the NBA ignored his historic racism and decides to go after him now....


Maybe most of the previous incidents were based on anecdote and there was no legal way to take action on it.  People like Sterling are very careful to (until now) ply their racist wares in such a way that no one has enough on them..
 
2014-04-30 09:31:19 AM
So the multi-billionaire was set-up by a cabal of trillionaires perhaps?
 
2014-04-30 09:32:20 AM
Rush, dude, you are such a tool. If your Jewish sponsors drop you then maybe you can tell the truth about the lizard people. I know you have been withholding it because your association with the New World Order prevents you from speaking out against former allies. Rush, dude, the Martians lost. Give it up already. Your overlords no longer hold power. Its time for you to accept the new order of things. Accept that or forlet your radio show.
 
2014-04-30 09:37:26 AM

markie_farkie: SauronWasFramed: /gets a kick how the NBA ignored his historic racism and decides to go after him now....

Maybe most of the previous incidents were based on anecdote and there was no legal way to take action on it.  People like Sterling are very careful to (until now) ply their racist wares in such a way that no one has enough on them..


Actually, many people took legal action against him based on the previous incidents, which is why we know about them. He's  already paid out millions in settlements because of his racism.

The true tragedy of this story is that this f*cking scumbag got a  pass for so long.
 
2014-04-30 09:42:49 AM
So much for race no longer being an issue.
 
2014-04-30 09:43:44 AM

Rincewind53: markie_farkie: SauronWasFramed: /gets a kick how the NBA ignored his historic racism and decides to go after him now....

Maybe most of the previous incidents were based on anecdote and there was no legal way to take action on it.  People like Sterling are very careful to (until now) ply their racist wares in such a way that no one has enough on them..

Actually, many people took legal action against him based on the previous incidents, which is why we know about them. He's  already paid out millions in settlements because of his racism.

The true tragedy of this story is that this f*cking scumbag got a  pass for so long.


Definitely.  But that's also the true weirdness of the story.  Why would someone so racist against blacks be so keen on Koreans, of all people, to have as tenants?  I'm trying to find some logic to that but can't seem to.  I mean, they're not white, they're still "other" as far as most racists would be concerned, right?
 
2014-04-30 09:47:04 AM
Rampant racism, a cold war with Russia, hippies openly smoking pot in Colorado and Washington...

/hell, the 60s are making a comeback
 
2014-04-30 10:02:59 AM

markie_farkie: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: To paraphrase what someone here said yesterday: "You lose all right to claim you were 'set up' five minutes into your ten minute racist rant."

That was me and I "borrowed" it from Andy Borowitz.


We need MLA citation capability for TF.
 
2014-04-30 10:06:16 AM
Maybe. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy, though. They just gave him enough rope to hang himself. The poor guy will probably net only hundreds of millions of dollars from the sale of a team he bought for $12.5 million.
 
2014-04-30 10:07:42 AM

Rincewind53: markie_farkie: SauronWasFramed: /gets a kick how the NBA ignored his historic racism and decides to go after him now....

Maybe most of the previous incidents were based on anecdote and there was no legal way to take action on it.  People like Sterling are very careful to (until now) ply their racist wares in such a way that no one has enough on them..

Actually, many people took legal action against him based on the previous incidents, which is why we know about them. He's  already paid out millions in settlements because of his racism.

The true tragedy of this story is that this f*cking scumbag got a  pass for so long.


The new story is Rush and company rushing to defend him. They've become so knee-jerk reactive to any "liberal" news that they're climbing into the cockpit with a guy who is going down in flames.

Let's just hope the story stays a tragedy.
 
2014-04-30 10:14:32 AM

Nabb1: Maybe. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy, though. They just gave him enough rope to hang himself. The poor guy will probably net only hundreds of millions of dollars from the sale of a team he bought for $12.5 million.


No, there isn't a maybe here. There's no setup. It was a rich guy being a racist asshole and the public realization that he's a racist asshole is detrimental to owning a freaking professional sports team. He bought the rope himself.

I'm sick of the victimization being claimed by people who are called out for being giant assholes. If they just say that their statements don't reflect their professionalism, or that the focus shouldn't be on their personal sentiments, that would be one thing. Saying that they were set up as part of some conspiracy is the most cowardly way to try to avoid facing the social consequences of something you said.
 
2014-04-30 10:16:17 AM
If all it takes to set you up is releasing a recording of your opinions you're farked.
 
2014-04-30 10:19:28 AM

Rincewind53: Actually, many people took legal action against him based on the previous incidents, which is why we know about them. He's already paid out millions in settlements because of his racism.

The true tragedy of this story is that this f*cking scumbag got a pass for so long.


Maybe the NBA owners ignored it because they could while it wasn't hurting the bottom line.  Or maybe the NBA owners knew they couldn't move on it until they had him dead to rights with something that wasn't sealed and plausibly denied in an out-of-court settlement.

Nabb1: Maybe. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy, though. They just gave him enough rope to hang himself. The poor guy will probably net only hundreds of millions of dollars from the sale of a team he bought for $12.5 million.


$12.5M?  Holy crap that is cheap!
 
2014-04-30 10:24:28 AM
Party of Personal Responsibility strikes again.
 
2014-04-30 10:24:46 AM
This conspiracy is already accepted truth on The Regional Message Boards of America™.

I'll say this for Magic Johnson. He must have some brilliant advisors to cook this up. Who knew he had super aides like that?

- Todd Kincannon (@Todd__Kincannon) April 29, 2014


Nothing offensive about that. I'm sorry you took it the wrong way. #whateverhappenedtofreespeech
 
2014-04-30 10:24:53 AM
Could we chopper in a few Dominican boys to Rush? I think he needs to have his tadger tickled again.
 
2014-04-30 10:26:27 AM
I heard Frankie Muniz was pondering about buying the Clippers as well.  Does that mean that it was a HOLLYWOOD CONSPIRACY?!

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: To paraphrase what someone here said yesterday: "You lose all right to claim you were 'set up' five minutes into your ten minute racist rant."


No kidding!  Then again, maybe old, ugly white guys with bad skin are blameless creatures.  But enough of the Republican platform....
 
2014-04-30 10:28:44 AM
Eh. I don't have any problem with that if it is the case.
 
2014-04-30 10:28:58 AM
I mean, given that he's been on the losing end of racial discrimination settlements and lawsuits for over a decade and other NBA owners have wanted him out just as long, I don't really get how he could have been "set up".

His veiws on race aren't just now coming to light via some secrative recording, they've been well documented legally for a long, long time.
 
2014-04-30 10:30:48 AM

markie_farkie: SauronWasFramed: /gets a kick how the NBA ignored his historic racism and decides to go after him now....

Maybe most of the previous incidents were based on anecdote and there was no legal way to take action on it.  People like Sterling are very careful to (until now) ply their racist wares in such a way that no one has enough on them..


No, until now, they were confident that they could be as blatantly racist/homophobic/anti-woman as they want to be and no one would take any action because it would hurt whoever was taking the action more than it hurt them.  In that, the pendulum has swung hard left, especially since Paula Deen.

/Now, if only people could do the same thing to Hobby Lobby and other "religious freedom" misogynists...
 
2014-04-30 10:31:53 AM
What's their point? Minorities shouldn't own teams?
 
2014-04-30 10:32:48 AM
I don't believe that but I do believe that someone at the NAACP was paid to give him the award(s). That's a real problem.
 
2014-04-30 10:33:31 AM

Guntram Shatterhand: I heard Frankie Muniz was pondering about buying the Clippers as well.


One of the great outcomes of this story is the revelation that Frankie Muniz is a legit crazy person.
 
2014-04-30 10:33:32 AM

SauronWasFramed: I wonder if she will be arrested for making a recording without his knowledge.


Except he's the one who told her to record him all the time because he was forgetting what he'd said.

I bet he wishes she hadn't listened to him  now.
 
2014-04-30 10:33:40 AM

Lost Thought 00: What's their point? Minorities shouldn't own teams?


Sterling is a minority.
 
2014-04-30 10:35:37 AM
I hate the obfuscation about the subject I hear Sterling apologists employing. I heard one conservative radio guy here in Nebraska saying while he despises what Sterling said, he acknowledges he has the right to say it, and the host can choose not to associate himself with him. By that reasoning though, you should be totally accepting of what the NBA did yesterday. The NBA owners, through their commissioner, are saying they don't want to associate with a man who has been hated by players and coaches for years, and is now hated by most of the country. The owners see this as a threat to their league, and their money. They are using the tools available to them through their league constitution to achieve that. Oh and he wasn't taped without his knowledge! Stop saying it was wiretapping or an illegal recording.
 
2014-04-30 10:36:23 AM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: SauronWasFramed: I wonder if she will be arrested for making a recording without his knowledge.

Except he's the one who told her to record him all the time because he was forgetting what he'd said.

I bet he wishes she hadn't listened to him  now.


That's interesting.  I heard her say she was his archivist, not his girlfriend.  I thought that was a strange thing for a hooker to say. But I'd imagine it would have to be in writing. Just casually saying "record my calls" won't hold much water
 
2014-04-30 10:37:03 AM
So the conservatives went with the Marion Berry defense?
 
2014-04-30 10:37:37 AM

Conthan: I hate the obfuscation about the subject I hear Sterling apologists employing. I heard one conservative radio guy here in Nebraska saying while he despises what Sterling said, he acknowledges he has the right to say it, and the host can choose not to associate himself with him. By that reasoning though, you should be totally accepting of what the NBA did yesterday. The NBA owners, through their commissioner, are saying they don't want to associate with a man who has been hated by players and coaches for years, and is now hated by most of the country. The owners see this as a threat to their league, and their money. They are using the tools available to them through their league constitution to achieve that. Oh and he wasn't taped without his knowledge! Stop saying it was wiretapping or an illegal recording.


What do you think about the LA city council asking the LA Times not to run his real estate advertisements?
 
2014-04-30 10:39:24 AM

uber humper: Conthan: I hate the obfuscation about the subject I hear Sterling apologists employing. I heard one conservative radio guy here in Nebraska saying while he despises what Sterling said, he acknowledges he has the right to say it, and the host can choose not to associate himself with him. By that reasoning though, you should be totally accepting of what the NBA did yesterday. The NBA owners, through their commissioner, are saying they don't want to associate with a man who has been hated by players and coaches for years, and is now hated by most of the country. The owners see this as a threat to their league, and their money. They are using the tools available to them through their league constitution to achieve that. Oh and he wasn't taped without his knowledge! Stop saying it was wiretapping or an illegal recording.

What do you think about the LA city council asking the LA Times not to run his real estate advertisements?


Citation?
 
2014-04-30 10:39:29 AM
Let's assume this is true.  So?
 
2014-04-30 10:40:49 AM
I've heard that the players (all of them, not just the Clippers) were threatening to not play unless/until the NBA cut ties with Sterling.

// I'm just surprised it only took 24 hours for them to drop the banhammer (though if the above is true, not surprised at all)
// and - IMO - the fine is too small and the ban too long
 
2014-04-30 10:41:06 AM

Bloody William: uber humper: Conthan: I hate the obfuscation about the subject I hear Sterling apologists employing. I heard one conservative radio guy here in Nebraska saying while he despises what Sterling said, he acknowledges he has the right to say it, and the host can choose not to associate himself with him. By that reasoning though, you should be totally accepting of what the NBA did yesterday. The NBA owners, through their commissioner, are saying they don't want to associate with a man who has been hated by players and coaches for years, and is now hated by most of the country. The owners see this as a threat to their league, and their money. They are using the tools available to them through their league constitution to achieve that. Oh and he wasn't taped without his knowledge! Stop saying it was wiretapping or an illegal recording.

What do you think about the LA city council asking the LA Times not to run his real estate advertisements?

Citation?


Is your google out of service?

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-nba-sterling-ban-ads-201 40 429,0,4262153.story
 
2014-04-30 10:43:29 AM

uber humper: Satan's Bunny Slippers: SauronWasFramed: I wonder if she will be arrested for making a recording without his knowledge.

Except he's the one who told her to record him all the time because he was forgetting what he'd said.

I bet he wishes she hadn't listened to him  now.

That's interesting.  I heard her say she was his archivist, not his girlfriend.  I thought that was a strange thing for a hooker to say. But I'd imagine it would have to be in writing. Just casually saying "record my calls" won't hold much water


true, but it's also not a criminal case that caused him to be suspended for life from the NBA stuff, and given his current divorce proceedings by his actual wife and the homewrecker case the wife filed against his whore, I don't see him putting up much of a fight about what he said that she recorded and made public.

:shrug:

And I don't really care.  Even if he's forced to sell, he bought the team for what is now a pittance some 30 years (?) ago, will sell the team for mega bucks, and live somewhat happily ever after, divorced and still able to hire all the whores he wants.

Cause I can't imagine a prize like him NOT having to pay for it.
 
2014-04-30 10:44:56 AM

Chris Ween: Let's assume this is true.  So?



So? Then Magic Johnson is either one hell of ventrilquist, or he has some amazing brain powers to make people speak whatever he (Magic) wants them to.
 
2014-04-30 10:46:10 AM

Dr Dreidel: I've heard that the players (all of them, not just the Clippers) were threatening to not play unless/until the NBA cut ties with Sterling.

// I'm just surprised it only took 24 hours for them to drop the banhammer (though if the above is true, not surprised at all)
// and - IMO - the fine is too small and the ban too long


No, he's bad for the NBA.  If a person has such a negative impact, losing that many advertisers/viewers/players, he needs to be sacked.
 
2014-04-30 10:46:45 AM

nekom: Rincewind53: markie_farkie: SauronWasFramed: /gets a kick how the NBA ignored his historic racism and decides to go after him now....

Maybe most of the previous incidents were based on anecdote and there was no legal way to take action on it.  People like Sterling are very careful to (until now) ply their racist wares in such a way that no one has enough on them..

Actually, many people took legal action against him based on the previous incidents, which is why we know about them. He's  already paid out millions in settlements because of his racism.

The true tragedy of this story is that this f*cking scumbag got a  pass for so long.

Definitely.  But that's also the true weirdness of the story.  Why would someone so racist against blacks be so keen on Koreans, of all people, to have as tenants?  I'm trying to find some logic to that but can't seem to.  I mean, they're not white, they're still "other" as far as most racists would be concerned, right?


I believe this is an extension of the typical racist worldview- black folks being "shiftless" or moochers or whatever, Asians are weird, and wrong and such, but they all look up to authority, but their culture is one that pays their obligations. Idiotic, but there it is.
 
2014-04-30 10:46:47 AM
Magic Johnson is going to buy the Clippers with money borrowed from Donald Sterling.  And the circle will be complete.
 
2014-04-30 10:48:07 AM

Lord_Baull: Chris Ween: Let's assume this is true.  So?


So? Then Magic Johnson is either one hell of ventrilquist, or he has some amazing brain powers to make people speak whatever he (Magic) wants them to.


Exactly.  Its like Marion Barry, "biatch set me up" while he's got white powder all over his face.  Yes, it was a set up to catch you being you.  Congrats.  You figured it out.

In other words, the way the information was gained is pointless for PR purposes.  Its what he said. And did that matters.
 
2014-04-30 10:48:36 AM

uber humper: Conthan: I hate the obfuscation about the subject I hear Sterling apologists employing. I heard one conservative radio guy here in Nebraska saying while he despises what Sterling said, he acknowledges he has the right to say it, and the host can choose not to associate himself with him. By that reasoning though, you should be totally accepting of what the NBA did yesterday. The NBA owners, through their commissioner, are saying they don't want to associate with a man who has been hated by players and coaches for years, and is now hated by most of the country. The owners see this as a threat to their league, and their money. They are using the tools available to them through their league constitution to achieve that. Oh and he wasn't taped without his knowledge! Stop saying it was wiretapping or an illegal recording.

What do you think about the LA city council asking the LA Times not to run his real estate advertisements?


Well that is a completely different situation from what I was talking about. I was only referring to the NBA's ability to perform the actions they did, and how I hated people portraying Sterling as a victim because of the ban, fine, and pressure to sell his team. I'll have to read about that when I have the time, but the action of the LA city council is not what I was writing about.
 
2014-04-30 10:50:05 AM

uber humper: Dr Dreidel: I've heard that the players (all of them, not just the Clippers) were threatening to not play unless/until the NBA cut ties with Sterling.

// I'm just surprised it only took 24 hours for them to drop the banhammer (though if the above is true, not surprised at all)
// and - IMO - the fine is too small and the ban too long

No, he's bad for the NBA.  If a person has such a negative impact, losing that many advertisers/viewers/players, he needs to be sacked.


Also, he's not mentally stable enough for the NBA. And that's saying something.  Owners need to have their house in better order.  It's a club and he got kicked out.


/I don't care much for they means of discovery, but considering the situation the Commish made the best choice he could
//if you get in a position of influence, CYA!
 
2014-04-30 10:50:29 AM

uber humper: Is your google out of service?

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-nba-sterling-ban-ads-201 40 429,0,4262153.story


I don't research for the opposition. If a statement is made, I expect whoever makes it to back it up themself. Thank you for doing it.

That's a shiatty thing for the city council to do as local government. They shouldn't do it, even if it's a request and not binding. Doesn't change that the league, advertisers, and anyone else who thinks Sterling is a shiathead has every right to cut ties with him.
 
2014-04-30 10:52:51 AM

Conthan: uber humper: Conthan: I hate the obfuscation about the subject I hear Sterling apologists employing. I heard one conservative radio guy here in Nebraska saying while he despises what Sterling said, he acknowledges he has the right to say it, and the host can choose not to associate himself with him. By that reasoning though, you should be totally accepting of what the NBA did yesterday. The NBA owners, through their commissioner, are saying they don't want to associate with a man who has been hated by players and coaches for years, and is now hated by most of the country. The owners see this as a threat to their league, and their money. They are using the tools available to them through their league constitution to achieve that. Oh and he wasn't taped without his knowledge! Stop saying it was wiretapping or an illegal recording.

What do you think about the LA city council asking the LA Times not to run his real estate advertisements?

Well that is a completely different situation from what I was talking about. I was only referring to the NBA's ability to perform the actions they did, and how I hated people portraying Sterling as a victim because of the ban, fine, and pressure to sell his team. I'll have to read about that when I have the time, but the action of the LA city council is not what I was writing about.


I know that.  I was just curious how far you would take it.  I agree he should be banned, I just mentioned in another post.  The city concilmen involved are going too far.  Some of these people need to be careful lest they find themselves on the wrong side of a lawsuit
 
2014-04-30 10:55:24 AM
BTW - speculate all we wish, is there any way Sterling's wife (or perhaps ex-wife) does not end up with a majority share of the team?
 
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