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(Slate)   No, the Tea Party isn't evil or racist. In fact, all it needs in order to become a major force for good is for you to show it some love and understanding once in a while. Would that be so hard? Oh, and send a little money while you're at it. Thanks   (slate.com) divider line 136
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2014-04-30 10:48:44 AM  
Too late, Slate - It doesn't matter how much you try to breath life back into its cold, dead carcass, the teahadist movement has been routed by the GOP, and the Republicans are going to kick your liberal ass in the 2014 election cycle.
 
2014-04-30 11:05:59 AM  
How about we drown it in a bathtub instead?
 
2014-04-30 11:14:03 AM  
Reihan Salam is one of the least derpy conservatives.
 
2014-04-30 11:14:12 AM  
The Tea Party is entirely based on the assumption of "I've got mine, fark you", and no amount of deflection will change that.
 
2014-04-30 11:30:01 AM  
When Tea Party conservatives counter such charges of racism by noting the popularity of African-Americans like Ben Carson, Allen West, Herman Cain, and South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott, they are routinely dismissed.

It's going to take ALOT more than "we have black friends" to redeem the 'party' from racism.  Especially when at least two of those named there make imbeciles look like Rhodes Scholars by comparison.
 
2014-04-30 11:30:56 AM  
 
2014-04-30 11:32:33 AM  
"become a major force"?

I've been oft-assured that the Tea Party reflects the views of at least 300 million people -- every American who isn't currently using an Obamaphone to text ACORN to find the location of the next Soros-catered Constitution-Burning & Abortion-O-Rama to fund the Barack Obama Mosque to be built on the demolished site of Independence Hall.
 
2014-04-30 11:34:33 AM  

cretinbob: [www.motherjones.com image 600x404] [progressivepopulist.org image 392x370] [img.fark.net image 448x523]

what does a Tea Party rally sound like?


I love baldy's.

I'm not sure if it's the non sequitur or the hasty and poor craftwork I like best.  But it's precious.
 
2014-04-30 11:36:26 AM  

cretinbob: [www.motherjones.com image 600x404] [progressivepopulist.org image 392x370] [img.fark.net image 448x523]

what does a Tea Party rally sound like?


That first guy is so trolling.
 
2014-04-30 11:39:53 AM  

Lucky LaRue: Too late, Slate - It doesn't matter how much you try to breath life back into its cold, dead carcass, the teahadist movement has been routed by the GOP, and the Republicans are going to kick your liberal ass in the 2014 election cycle.


Mitch McConnell might have a word or two for you.
 
2014-04-30 11:43:56 AM  
Tea Baggers are already punching over their weight, thanks to gerrymandering following the 2010 election.

20% of the population on a good day should not be dictating policy to the nation.
 
2014-04-30 11:45:26 AM  
They just need to pull themselves up by the bootstraps.
 
2014-04-30 11:54:47 AM  

Lucky LaRue: Too late, Slate - It doesn't matter how much you try to breath life back into its cold, dead carcass, the teahadist movement has been routed by the GOP, and the Republicans are going to kick your liberal ass in the 2014 election cycle.


Sounds  legit Unskewed studied out
 
2014-04-30 11:55:26 AM  
I see nothing but hate and fear when I look at the Tea Party.
 
2014-04-30 11:56:19 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: cretinbob: [www.motherjones.com image 600x404] [progressivepopulist.org image 392x370] [img.fark.net image 448x523]

what does a Tea Party rally sound like?

That first guy is so trolling.


Probably, but  it's hard to tell sometimes.

Sometimes not

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2014-04-30 11:56:30 AM  
Not evil and racist? Well ok, if you say so.

But they're definitely old and stupid.
 
2014-04-30 11:57:51 AM  
Tea Party Ignorant Sign Thread!!!
 
2014-04-30 11:58:58 AM  

James!: They just need to pull themselves up by the bootstraps.


I'd prefer they pull themselves up by the hemp nooses.
 
2014-04-30 11:59:21 AM  
the Tea Party is a Corporate Sponsored Astroturf movement (as opposed to an actual organic grass roots movement)


don't drink the Tea........its been spiked.
 
2014-04-30 12:00:54 PM  
Sure.  They aren't evil or racist.  They're just full of people who say and do evil and racist things, who nominate and elect evil and racist politicians.
 
2014-04-30 12:02:37 PM  
I'm so old I remember when Slate wasn't a tool of the right-wing.
 
2014-04-30 12:02:47 PM  
 
2014-04-30 12:03:10 PM  
If the Tea Party were to fight crony capitalism as hard as it fights wasteful spending, and if its members were to train their anger on the Wall Street-Washington axis that deserves so much of the blame for our stagnant economy, it would be the most constructive and powerful political force of our time.

While this is true, it is absolutely antithetical to the far right to admit that private interests can do bad things and need to be reigned in at some point. There is no reason to think the Tea Party will make the pivot necessary to do this and so there is no reason to support another anti-regulation, pro-Gilded Age movement. We have more than enough people working that angle.
 
2014-04-30 12:03:48 PM  
Harvard sociologist and political scientist Theda Skocpol and her co-author Vanessa Williamson observe that Tea Party conservatives will often distinguish between government transfers that flow to deserving productive citizens (like themselves) and those that benefit people they see as undeserving freeloaders (unlike themselves).
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there is nothing hypocritical about believing both that these programs should be made more work-friendly and that the safety net for older Americans should be protected.


And that not being hypocritical would matter if that what has actually been claimed and not just some strawman you built up.

You know what is hypocritical?  Demonizing poor minorities as welfare queens, moochers, and general drains on society while at the same time turning Cliven Bundy into a hero because he hasn't paid rent on the land he's using for twenty years.
 
2014-04-30 12:06:58 PM  
They had grown unresponsive to the real needs of rank-and-file Republican voters throughout the 1990s and the 2000s. During George W. Bush's second term, his domestic policy efforts centered around an ill-timed effort to modernize Social Security-an idea that had almost no popular resonance

Let me get this straight.  You're claiming that GWB wasn't listening to the tea partiers wishes when he tried to privatize social security.  But isn't that Tea Party hero Rand Paul's plan for social security and medicare that the tea party enthusiastically supports?
 
2014-04-30 12:07:43 PM  
I don't know about "evil."

Stupid, selfish, short-sighted, xenophobic, greedy.

All these terms do come to mind, though. Before "racist."

So yeah, fark 'em.
 
2014-04-30 12:09:20 PM  

vernonFL: Reihan Salam is one of the least derpy conservatives.


That's like saying that someone is the least Pedobear of molesters.
 
2014-04-30 12:10:03 PM  
 
2014-04-30 12:14:22 PM  

Karac: They had grown unresponsive to the real needs of rank-and-file Republican voters throughout the 1990s and the 2000s. During George W. Bush's second term, his domestic policy efforts centered around an ill-timed effort to modernize Social Security-an idea that had almost no popular resonance

Let me get this straight.  You're claiming that GWB wasn't listening to the tea partiers wishes when he tried to privatize social security.  But isn't that Tea Party hero Rand Paul's plan for social security and medicare that the tea party enthusiastically supports?


I get the sense that Skocpol and Williamson came up with their hypothesis BEFORE they did the investigation, and now they're desperately trying to make their data fit the hypothesis.
 
2014-04-30 12:18:23 PM  

odinsposse: If the Tea Party were to fight crony capitalism as hard as it fights wasteful spending, and if its members were to train their anger on the Wall Street-Washington axis that deserves so much of the blame for our stagnant economy, it would be the most constructive and powerful political force of our time.

While this is true, it is absolutely antithetical to the far right to admit that private interests can do bad things and need to be reigned in at some point. There is no reason to think the Tea Party will make the pivot necessary to do this and so there is no reason to support another anti-regulation, pro-Gilded Age movement. We have more than enough people working that angle.


If the Tea Party got over its racism and obeisance to the 1% it wouldn't be the Tea Party anymore.
 
2014-04-30 12:24:48 PM  

cretinbob: Rev. Skarekroe: cretinbob: [www.motherjones.com image 600x404] [progressivepopulist.org image 392x370] [img.fark.net image 448x523]

what does a Tea Party rally sound like?

That first guy is so trolling.

Probably, but  it's hard to tell sometimes.

Sometimes not

[www.motherjones.com image 600x451] [www.frugal-cafe.com image 480x415] [aattp.org image 410x308] [cdn.pjmedia.com image 599x612] [2.bp.blogspot.com image 275x284] [stuffthatmattersblog.files.wordpress.com image 491x521]


I think the "tar sands" chick is a Liberal and was not referencing Obama's race in any way.
 
2014-04-30 12:24:48 PM  

Graffito: odinsposse: If the Tea Party were to fight crony capitalism as hard as it fights wasteful spending, and if its members were to train their anger on the Wall Street-Washington axis that deserves so much of the blame for our stagnant economy, it would be the most constructive and powerful political force of our time.

While this is true, it is absolutely antithetical to the far right to admit that private interests can do bad things and need to be reigned in at some point. There is no reason to think the Tea Party will make the pivot necessary to do this and so there is no reason to support another anti-regulation, pro-Gilded Age movement. We have more than enough people working that angle.

If the Tea Party got over its racism and obeisance to the 1% it wouldn't be the Tea Party anymore.


The whole article could just as well be saying "The Ku Klux Klan could become a force for good if it just changed into the NAACP."
 
2014-04-30 12:25:03 PM  

cretinbob: Rev. Skarekroe: cretinbob: [www.motherjones.com image 600x404] [progressivepopulist.org image 392x370] [img.fark.net image 448x523]

what does a Tea Party rally sound like?

That first guy is so trolling.

Probably, but  it's hard to tell sometimes.

Sometimes not

[www.motherjones.com image 600x451] [www.frugal-cafe.com image 480x415] [aattp.org image 410x308] [cdn.pjmedia.com image 599x612] [2.bp.blogspot.com image 275x284] [stuffthatmattersblog.files.wordpress.com image 491x521]


What is the deal with the one where two people have signs made saying "this guy is an infiltrator"?  I mean, that's pretty good foresight to know you're going to need several signs like that.
 
2014-04-30 12:29:40 PM  
What a shiatty article.
 
2014-04-30 12:30:29 PM  

born_yesterday: What is the deal with the one where two people have signs made saying "this guy is an infiltrator"?  I mean, that's pretty good foresight to know you're going to need several signs like that.


When the news outlet you watch, the websites you visit, the books you read (or at least look at the pictures) keep using the phrase "false flag", you start to see false flags and red herrings everywhere. Luckily, I can tell just by looking at the signs who the infiltrators are. Typically they're the signs that are spelled correctly or don't have enough derp.
 
2014-04-30 12:30:36 PM  

whidbey: I don't know about "evil."

Stupid, selfish, short-sighted, xenophobic, greedy.

All these terms do come to mind, though. Before "racist."

So yeah, fark 'em.


Yeah. I'm sure the party would be up to the same thing even if the President was an old white man, it's just the language would have changed.

Racism isn't the prime motivation for the Tea Party, it's just the easiest way to get their base on side.
 
2014-04-30 12:30:41 PM  
It's a movement overtaken by proud and obnoxious ignorance of reality. You don't save something like that. You drown it.
 
2014-04-30 12:32:25 PM  
I hear that giving money to Tea Party PACs is a good idea.
 
2014-04-30 12:33:32 PM  

born_yesterday: What is the deal with the one where two people have signs made saying "this guy is an infiltrator"? I mean, that's pretty good foresight to know you're going to need several signs like that.


Maybe he showed up at earlier rallies and they knew to expect him.
 
2014-04-30 12:34:21 PM  
CSB: I recently got into it with my brother on Facebook, who has gone full teabagger derp. He wrote a post about someone and called him a "subhuman mongrel", to which I objected. Even after I pointed out to him and his mouthbreather buddies that this was the go-to phrase for the Nazis as they gassed the Jews, they didn't understand. After all, my brother was quoting Ted Nugent, which made it all OK for free speech and reasons. Sigh.

/they also maintained that there are no transitional fossils
 
2014-04-30 12:35:19 PM  
"The Tea Party is the most maligned major political movement of our time."


Well, they're also the most ignorant, misguided and hate-filled political movement of our time. Millions of Sarah Palins running around all gosh darn fed up with big guvermint all takin' away all are rights, dontchya know! Legions of pensioners and medicaid recipients warning us of the evils of entitlement programs. They are a demagogue's wet dream.
 
2014-04-30 12:43:17 PM  
cdn.visualnews.com

// if only this rosy picture was the extent of it
 
2014-04-30 12:45:03 PM  
Lie. Lie. No. Yes it would. Get a job, hippie. You're not welcome.
 
2014-04-30 12:45:33 PM  
"The fact that wealthy campaign donors are far more likely to support establishment Republicans over Tea Party conservatives in GOP primaries tells a different story."

That's how you lie with statistics. Well done Reihan. Is the Tea Party an AstroTurf organization mostly created by freedom works? Well, lots more money goes to other candidates.

You said something that is completely true and yet doesn't actually rebut the accusation in any way.
 
2014-04-30 12:47:30 PM  

Dr Dreidel: [cdn.visualnews.com image 600x509]

// if only this rosy picture was the extent of it


During my brief stint of suffering insufferable hipsters with OWS I could not stand the assholes trying to wedge Tea Party rhetoric or the Pauldroids
 
2014-04-30 12:48:51 PM  

Kornchex: Tea Party Ignorant Sign Thread!!!


You're going to need a bigger thread.
 
2014-04-30 12:50:06 PM  
farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2014-04-30 12:50:17 PM  
Did... did Slate just make a post that's positing "they have a black friend" as a  serious excuse for the Tea Party's institutional racism?

... wow.
 
2014-04-30 12:51:37 PM  
The Tea Party might not be racist... but it's #1 (or #2) with racists. The Republican party is still #1 with a some racists.
 
2014-04-30 12:53:56 PM  

born_yesterday: cretinbob: Rev. Skarekroe: cretinbob: [www.motherjones.com image 600x404] [progressivepopulist.org image 392x370] [img.fark.net image 448x523]

what does a Tea Party rally sound like?

That first guy is so trolling.

Probably, but  it's hard to tell sometimes.

Sometimes not

[www.motherjones.com image 600x451] [www.frugal-cafe.com image 480x415] [aattp.org image 410x308] [cdn.pjmedia.com image 599x612] [2.bp.blogspot.com image 275x284] [stuffthatmattersblog.files.wordpress.com image 491x521]

What is the deal with the one where two people have signs made saying "this guy is an infiltrator"?  I mean, that's pretty good foresight to know you're going to need several signs like that.


I remember years ago listening to Limbaugh, and he was slick enough to tell his audience, if someone called in and said something to the effect of, "'I normally agree with you, but you're wrong on this issue," they were obviously a "seminar caller", and given a script at some nefarious meeting of a bunch of Democrats to try and counter what he was saying.  It was one of the earliest moments when I recognized that the conservatives/republicans were eventually going to run off the rails - much like right after 9/11 and leading up to the Iraq War, when he and other talk radio people started unloading on "moderates".  Because the only thing worse than a liberal was a moderate who had no core political values.

Now, ignore for a moment, the absolute silliness of the idea that people would have wasted time, money, and energy organizing a call-in program to undermine a talk radio show.  And ignore the fact that Limbaugh railing against moderates is even more hilarious when in the very same show he would complain that "liberals make government their religion" and then equivocate centrism to apostasy.

It's very insidious what the propagandists did to the Right in this country - championing the idea of ideological purity before everything else.  This is why we can't get compromise among legislators, why everything is seen through the lens of the culture war, and why seemingly reasonable (or less unreasonable) Republicans are getting hammered in primary challenges by fringe candidates.

/To be fair, it's not just the ideological purity that's driving the process of attacking Republicans in the primary - it's also PAC money trying to put newer, less experienced people in legislative bodies who are more reliant on lobbying groups like ALEC.
 
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