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2014-04-30 08:43:03 AM
Well worth a listen. Bomani nails it.
 
2014-04-30 08:56:05 AM
Bomani Jones is one of my favorite members of the sports media and it has been a pleasure to listen to his take on this situation.

Glad he is getting the exposure he deserves.
 
2014-04-30 09:06:09 AM
I listened to this yesterday, and I thought he was dead on. Sterling is a horrible human being, but this is news to exactly no one involved in all of this. And for Doc Rivers to say he was unaware of Sterling's issues is just farcical. That said, I feel no pity for Sterling at all. He put himself in this position, and I seriously doubt that if this rant in his house was the only thing that has ever come up, he probably wouldn't have had the banhammer dropped on him yesterday.
 
2014-04-30 09:07:49 AM

Nabb1: I listened to this yesterday, and I thought he was dead on. Sterling is a horrible human being, but this is news to exactly no one involved in all of this. And for Doc Rivers to say he was unaware of Sterling's issues is just farcical. That said, I feel no pity for Sterling at all. He put himself in this position, and I seriously doubt truly think that if this rant in his house was the only thing that has ever come up, he probably wouldn't have had the banhammer dropped on him yesterday.


Jesus, I need more coffee.
 
2014-04-30 09:10:00 AM

Nabb1: Nabb1: I listened to this yesterday, and I thought he was dead on. Sterling is a horrible human being, but this is news to exactly no one involved in all of this. And for Doc Rivers to say he was unaware of Sterling's issues is just farcical. That said, I feel no pity for Sterling at all. He put himself in this position, and I seriously doubt truly think that if this rant in his house was the only thing that has ever come up, he probably wouldn't have had the banhammer dropped on him yesterday.

Jesus, I need more coffee.



You could say this was a lifetime achievement award for Sterling.
 
2014-04-30 09:12:37 AM

Nabb1: I listened to this yesterday, and I thought he was dead on. Sterling is a horrible human being, but this is news to exactly no one involved in all of this. And for Doc Rivers to say he was unaware of Sterling's issues is just farcical. That said, I feel no pity for Sterling at all. He put himself in this position, and I seriously doubt that if this rant in his house was the only thing that has ever come up, he probably wouldn't have had the banhammer dropped on him yesterday.


Jones is absolutely right as far as he goes. The submitter is overly expansive, though, because Jones certainly isn't referring to those people who didn't even know who the hell Donald Sterling was ten days ago.
 
2014-04-30 09:12:54 AM
It's almost no one gave a crap about Sterling's abhorrent views until they started costing the league owners & sponsors cash money...
 
2014-04-30 09:13:21 AM

SilentStrider: Nabb1: Nabb1: I listened to this yesterday, and I thought he was dead on. Sterling is a horrible human being, but this is news to exactly no one involved in all of this. And for Doc Rivers to say he was unaware of Sterling's issues is just farcical. That said, I feel no pity for Sterling at all. He put himself in this position, and I seriously doubt truly think that if this rant in his house was the only thing that has ever come up, he probably wouldn't have had the banhammer dropped on him yesterday.

Jesus, I need more coffee.


You could say this was a lifetime achievement award for Sterling.


LOL. Like when they give an Oscar to some aging director or actor who got screwed over a half dozen times over the years and they finally try to make up for it.
 
2014-04-30 09:16:58 AM
My Client, Boonami Jones, conqured... nothing. No one cares about the truth.
 
DGS [TotalFark]
2014-04-30 09:17:53 AM
Serious question: Am I missing why this is in Politics?
 
2014-04-30 09:18:40 AM

LucklessWonder: It's almost no one gave a crap about Sterling's abhorrent views until they started costing the league owners & sponsors cash money...


I didn't give a crap about Sterling's abhorrent views until I heard about them recently.  I tend not to follow news about professional sports team owners unless they're local.  I would have been happy to have the NBA find some kind of way to censure him prior to this.

Though considering what he said on that tape, I think the NBA's actions are appropriate so far.  When does the board meet to decide if he has to sell the team?
 
2014-04-30 09:20:34 AM

DGS: Serious question: Am I missing why this is in Politics?


Race relations are more of a socio-economic topic, but they do have serious political impacts.
 
2014-04-30 09:21:10 AM

LucklessWonder: It's almost no one gave a crap about Sterling's abhorrent views until they started costing the league owners & sponsors cash money...


I think we have become a society that is easy to outrage, but are very lazy about it. A guy says some outrageous offensive comment, and it gets spread on social media, and it's a tight little soundbite in a nice package, and we can hit "share" and we all clutch our pearls and look for our fainting couches. But when it comes to something complex, like Sterling's pattern of housing discrimination, we have to do a little more work and a little more reading, and look at a lot of facts, and wrestle with some more complex concepts that require a little more work than just getting upset about some ten second racist comment. We all love a chance to pat ourselves on the back for how much we so aren't racist, but Sterling's comments to his mistress are nothing compared to the lives he actually hurt years ago.
 
2014-04-30 09:21:50 AM
OLBERMAN's special comment about this last night was awesome.
 
DGS [TotalFark]
2014-04-30 09:23:09 AM

Tricky Chicken: DGS: Serious question: Am I missing why this is in Politics?

Race relations are more of a socio-economic topic, but they do have serious political impacts.


It's not to say that there are no politics to this topic. I do get that. But outside of punditry and some political figures voicing their opinions on the topic, it's not like this was handled in any political arena (aside from the court of public opinion).
 
2014-04-30 09:23:21 AM
So basically, instead of seizing the opportunity to shed light on the real issues, he decides to go off on an insult-laden tirade about how he's right and everybody else is wrong and everybody but him is a hypocrite. And then he wonders why he can't get any traction.

As The Dude put it, "You're not wrong, you're just an asshole."
 
2014-04-30 09:24:05 AM

Mercutio74: When does the board meet to decide if he has to sell the team?


I heard this morning that it may not be until the owners meeting in July.
 
2014-04-30 09:24:08 AM

Courtney Love's Genital Warts: OLBERMAN's special comment about this last night was awesome.


I miss him on MSNBC.


/Yeah, I said it.
 
2014-04-30 09:24:37 AM
How about the hypocrisy of the NAACP for giving sterling lifetime achievement awards in exchange for getting paid off, even though he was a known racist (even before the recordings)?

/dnrtfa
 
2014-04-30 09:26:12 AM

LucklessWonder: It's almost no one gave a crap about Sterling's abhorrent views until they started costing the league owners & sponsors cash money...


This - and normally I would find this a very cynical view, but the NBA is taking a financial hit because of Sterling, so I don't blame them for taking action. Whether that action (lifetime ban) is appropriate is another discussion.
 
2014-04-30 09:27:47 AM

SlothB77: How about the hypocrisy of the NAACP for giving sterling lifetime achievement awards in exchange for getting paid off, even though he was a known racist (even before the recordings)?

/dnrtfa


I'm not sure if that's hypocrisy or stupidity.  If he made donations to the NAACP it's hypocrisy...  if it's just that they don't vet the people they give awards to, that's just PR stupidity.
 
2014-04-30 09:28:01 AM
While Sterling's statements were horrible, I'd like to put that aside and look at the reaction to them. It would appear that we have as a society made great strides forward in racial relations.  The public reaction was one of disgust and near universal condemnation. The league and sponsor reactions were clearly needed to protect themselves from being damaged even more in the collateral wake of public opinion.  There was a time when many if not most would write his statements off as ill timed or worse even supported his right hold such attitudes.
 
2014-04-30 09:28:37 AM

kronicfeld: Nabb1: I listened to this yesterday, and I thought he was dead on. Sterling is a horrible human being, but this is news to exactly no one involved in all of this. And for Doc Rivers to say he was unaware of Sterling's issues is just farcical. That said, I feel no pity for Sterling at all. He put himself in this position, and I seriously doubt that if this rant in his house was the only thing that has ever come up, he probably wouldn't have had the banhammer dropped on him yesterday.

Jones is absolutely right as far as he goes. The submitter is overly expansive, though, because Jones certainly isn't referring to those people who didn't even know who the hell Donald Sterling was ten days ago.


I fall in that category. I don't follow the NBA very closely; I could have told you Mark Cuban owned the Mavericks, but he's the only NBA owner I could name off the top of my head. Now I know that Donald Sterling is the (presumed soon-to-be ex) owner of the Clippers and that he has repeatedly engaged in horrifyingly racist behavior both in his private thoughts and his public actions.
 
2014-04-30 09:28:43 AM

Nabb1: LucklessWonder: It's almost no one gave a crap about Sterling's abhorrent views until they started costing the league owners & sponsors cash money...

I think we have become a society that is easy to outrage, but are very lazy about it. A guy says some outrageous offensive comment, and it gets spread on social media, and it's a tight little soundbite in a nice package, and we can hit "share" and we all clutch our pearls and look for our fainting couches. But when it comes to something complex, like Sterling's pattern of housing discrimination, we have to do a little more work and a little more reading, and look at a lot of facts, and wrestle with some more complex concepts that require a little more work than just getting upset about some ten second racist comment. We all love a chance to pat ourselves on the back for how much we so aren't racist, but Sterling's comments to his mistress are nothing compared to the lives he actually hurt years ago.


Very well said, and a serious flaw in todays world.
The sad thing is, I guess I'm part of the problem, because until this story broke I honestly had never heard Sterlings name before.
 
2014-04-30 09:30:58 AM
Fac it.  When Sterling was just discriminating against poor blacks, the NBA didn't give a crap.  Once he picked on the rich and famous, suddenly the shiat hit the fan and he was out on his ass.
 
2014-04-30 09:31:45 AM

SlothB77: How about the hypocrisy of the NAACP for giving sterling lifetime achievement awards in exchange for getting paid off, even though he was a known racist (even before the recordings)?


You're right. Black people are the real villains here.
 
2014-04-30 09:32:53 AM

Nabb1: I think we have become a society that is easy to outrage, but are very lazy about it. A guy says some outrageous offensive comment, and it gets spread on social media, and it's a tight little soundbite in a nice package, and we can hit "share" and we all clutch our pearls and look for our fainting couches. But when it comes to something complex, like Sterling's pattern of housing discrimination, we have to do a little more work and a little more reading, and look at a lot of facts, and wrestle with some more complex concepts that require a little more work than just getting upset about some ten second racist comment. We all love a chance to pat ourselves on the back for how much we so aren't racist, but Sterling's comments to his mistress are nothing compared to the lives he actually hurt years ago.

You don't understand. We have to do something about Kony.
 
2014-04-30 09:34:58 AM

Nabb1: LucklessWonder: It's almost no one gave a crap about Sterling's abhorrent views until they started costing the league owners & sponsors cash money...

I think we have become a society that is easy to outrage, but are very lazy about it. A guy says some outrageous offensive comment, and it gets spread on social media, and it's a tight little soundbite in a nice package, and we can hit "share" and we all clutch our pearls and look for our fainting couches. But when it comes to something complex, like Sterling's pattern of housing discrimination, we have to do a little more work and a little more reading, and look at a lot of facts, and wrestle with some more complex concepts that require a little more work than just getting upset about some ten second racist comment. We all love a chance to pat ourselves on the back for how much we so aren't racist, but Sterling's comments to his mistress are nothing compared to the lives he actually hurt years ago.


Extremely well put.

Mercutio74: SlothB77: How about the hypocrisy of the NAACP for giving sterling lifetime achievement awards in exchange for getting paid off, even though he was a known racist (even before the recordings)?

/dnrtfa

I'm not sure if that's hypocrisy or stupidity.  If he made donations to the NAACP it's hypocrisy...  if it's just that they don't vet the people they give awards to, that's just PR stupidity.


The NAACP is utterly irrelevant.  Their only real purpose at this point is for tu quoque attacks against the left.  And maybe a place at which to purchase shallow and cheap racial atonement.
 
2014-04-30 09:35:07 AM

The Why Not Guy: SlothB77: How about the hypocrisy of the NAACP for giving sterling lifetime achievement awards in exchange for getting paid off, even though he was a known racist (even before the recordings)?

You're right. Black people are the real villains here.


No, they aren't, but that is a real headscratcher that they gave him that award after his housing practices had become an issue. You have to admit that's odd.
 
2014-04-30 09:35:47 AM

The Why Not Guy: LucklessWonder: It's almost no one gave a crap about Sterling's abhorrent views until they started costing the league owners & sponsors cash money...

This - and normally I would find this a very cynical view, but the NBA is taking a financial hit because of Sterling, so I don't blame them for taking action. Whether that action (lifetime ban) is appropriate is another discussion.


Indeed. It's a couple of separate issues folded into one. I understand the PR move on the part of the NBA (they couldn't be seen to do nothing, the story has got too much traction), and I'm basically okay with the lifetime ban and forced sale, assuming that it's all contractually spelled out in team franchise agreements/arbitration rules.

And if I were a Clippers fan, I'd be grateful that the league is blackballing Sterling as it makes the team news be about the play offs, not the politics again.

Nabb1: LucklessWonder: It's almost no one gave a crap about Sterling's abhorrent views until they started costing the league owners & sponsors cash money...

I think we have become a society that is easy to outrage, but are very lazy about it. A guy says some outrageous offensive comment, and it gets spread on social media, and it's a tight little soundbite in a nice package, and we can hit "share" and we all clutch our pearls and look for our fainting couches. But when it comes to something complex, like Sterling's pattern of housing discrimination, we have to do a little more work and a little more reading, and look at a lot of facts, and wrestle with some more complex concepts that require a little more work than just getting upset about some ten second racist comment. We all love a chance to pat ourselves on the back for how much we so aren't racist, but Sterling's comments to his mistress are nothing compared to the lives he actually hurt years ago.


THIS (for better or worse)

Mercutio74: LucklessWonder: It's almost no one gave a crap about Sterling's abhorrent views until they started costing the league owners & sponsors cash money...

I didn't give a crap about Sterling's abhorrent views until I heard about them recently.  I tend not to follow news about professional sports team owners unless they're local.  I would have been happy to have the NBA find some kind of way to censure him prior to this.

Though considering what he said on that tape, I think the NBA's actions are appropriate so far.  When does the board meet to decide if he has to sell the team?


I believe July, after the Finals. Though I would not be surprised if some form of emergency session is called prior to then, assuming an owner's group is lined up. (Seattle?)
 
2014-04-30 09:37:12 AM
So if we build an expressway through a neighborhood ,the residents will then sink into utter despair and start killing themselves and destroying the very fabric of the community .

Well boys I think we just found away to defeat the Taliban.

Call in the SeaBees and get that road built.

img.fark.net
 
2014-04-30 09:37:18 AM
I am sympathetic to the guy, but don't tell me freeways make people shoot each other and that rich white people living in the ghetto need to fix this. At least point out the effects of drug prohibition and it's uneven enforcement or something. This is a hell of a lot more complicated then the national highway system.
 
2014-04-30 09:38:05 AM
OKAY, I ADMIT IT!  I KNEW ALL ABOUT STERLING AND I WENT TO A CLIPPERS GAME WHEN VISITING LA!

LucklessWonder: I believe July, after the Finals. Though I would not be surprised if some form of emergency session is called prior to then, assuming an owner's group is lined up. (Seattle?)


I dont think the Clips are going anywhere.
 
2014-04-30 09:38:16 AM

cantsleep: Nabb1: LucklessWonder: It's almost no one gave a crap about Sterling's abhorrent views until they started costing the league owners & sponsors cash money...

I think we have become a society that is easy to outrage, but are very lazy about it. A guy says some outrageous offensive comment, and it gets spread on social media, and it's a tight little soundbite in a nice package, and we can hit "share" and we all clutch our pearls and look for our fainting couches. But when it comes to something complex, like Sterling's pattern of housing discrimination, we have to do a little more work and a little more reading, and look at a lot of facts, and wrestle with some more complex concepts that require a little more work than just getting upset about some ten second racist comment. We all love a chance to pat ourselves on the back for how much we so aren't racist, but Sterling's comments to his mistress are nothing compared to the lives he actually hurt years ago.

Very well said, and a serious flaw in todays world.
The sad thing is, I guess I'm part of the problem, because until this story broke I honestly had never heard Sterlings name before.


There are nearly seven billion people living on the planet today. There are over 320 million people living in America today. Hell, there are almost 13 million people living in the LA metro area today. The idea that we should all know who each of the top 0.01% people in LA are to the extent that we have comprehensive knowledge of their legal issues and political beliefs is insane. Humans can generally only maintain a couple hundred social relationships at the most.
 
2014-04-30 09:38:41 AM

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: So if we build an expressway through a neighborhood ,the residents will then sink into utter despair and start killing themselves and destroying the very fabric of the community .

Well boys I think we just found away to defeat the Taliban.

Call in the SeaBees and get that road built.

[img.fark.net image 225x225]


North Kingstown, RI!  WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
 
2014-04-30 09:39:21 AM

HeartBurnKid: So basically, instead of seizing the opportunity to shed light on the real issues, he decides to go off on an insult-laden tirade about how he's right and everybody else is wrong and everybody but him is a hypocrite.


And there you have it.  The conection to the Politics Tab and why it belongs there.
 
2014-04-30 09:39:39 AM
I have been hearing about this on the radio on the way to work almost every day so I had to go read what the guy said, it was really odd, weird beliefs to hold being a NBA team owner. He also has that rich guy mentality where he is "giving" people money when they work for him.
 
2014-04-30 09:40:09 AM

Gunny Highway: OKAY, I ADMIT IT!  I KNEW ALL ABOUT STERLING AND I WENT TO A CLIPPERS GAME WHEN VISITING LA!

LucklessWonder: I believe July, after the Finals. Though I would not be surprised if some form of emergency session is called prior to then, assuming an owner's group is lined up. (Seattle?)

I dont think the Clips are going anywhere.


Money talks. The Sonics were allegedly staying in Seattle when they sold.
 
2014-04-30 09:41:34 AM

Nabb1: No, they aren't, but that is a real headscratcher that they gave him that award after his housing practices had become an issue. You have to admit that's odd.


I agree - it's odd, and maybe they have their reasons, but they sure aren't apparent to an outsider. However, I don't see that as the big takeaway from this story. "Oh yeah? Well what about the NAACP?!"
 
2014-04-30 09:42:13 AM

LucklessWonder: Gunny Highway: OKAY, I ADMIT IT!  I KNEW ALL ABOUT STERLING AND I WENT TO A CLIPPERS GAME WHEN VISITING LA!

LucklessWonder: I believe July, after the Finals. Though I would not be surprised if some form of emergency session is called prior to then, assuming an owner's group is lined up. (Seattle?)

I dont think the Clips are going anywhere.

Money talks. The Sonics were allegedly staying in Seattle when they sold.


We will have to wait and see.  Don't really care either way.
 
2014-04-30 09:43:39 AM

LucklessWonder: It's almost no one gave a crap about Sterling's abhorrent views until they started costing the league owners & sponsors cash money...


His views were only rumor and accusations until it was recorded and broadcast.
 
2014-04-30 09:43:48 AM

DGS: Serious question: Am I missing why this is in Politics?


If you want to see the political angle from this, and have the brain cells to spare, you can go over to one of the oft-submitted right wing sites and see plenty of articles and comments about how this man's constitution right to own property has been taken away by the NBA commissioner.
 
2014-04-30 09:44:46 AM

Muta: LucklessWonder: It's almost no one gave a crap about Sterling's abhorrent views until they started costing the league owners & sponsors cash money...

His views were only rumor and accusations until it was recorded and broadcast.


Housing lawsuit and $2.5m settlement is more than "rumor and accusation."
 
2014-04-30 09:44:47 AM

The Why Not Guy: Nabb1: No, they aren't, but that is a real headscratcher that they gave him that award after his housing practices had become an issue. You have to admit that's odd.

I agree - it's odd, and maybe they have their reasons, but they sure aren't apparent to an outsider. However, I don't see that as the big takeaway from this story. "Oh yeah? Well what about the NAACP?!"


I'm sure over the years, Sterling gave them lots and lots of reason$. Hey, if you are going to engage in a secret pattern of housing discrimination for decades, being a philanthropist to the NAACP is probably a good PR move.
 
2014-04-30 09:45:48 AM

SlothB77: How about the hypocrisy of the NAACP for giving sterling lifetime achievement awards in exchange for getting paid off, even though he was a known racist (even before the recordings)?


Perhaps the NAACP received the large donations from Sterling without knowing they were court ordered.
 
2014-04-30 09:46:32 AM

LucklessWonder: Muta: LucklessWonder: It's almost no one gave a crap about Sterling's abhorrent views until they started costing the league owners & sponsors cash money...

His views were only rumor and accusations until it was recorded and broadcast.

Housing lawsuit and $2.5m settlement is more than "rumor and accusation."


Yuuuup.  People didnt know about this guy and it is really bothering them for whatever reason.
 
2014-04-30 09:48:29 AM
What I find more hilarious is he lets his girlfriend get railed by black guys on the side. Unless he is a cuckold...
 
2014-04-30 09:49:51 AM
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His business partners will handle it, and a bunch of lawyers will get rich.

If you weren't shunning him before this, you should feel bad.
 
2014-04-30 09:51:14 AM

Nabb1: The Why Not Guy: Nabb1: No, they aren't, but that is a real headscratcher that they gave him that award after his housing practices had become an issue. You have to admit that's odd.

I agree - it's odd, and maybe they have their reasons, but they sure aren't apparent to an outsider. However, I don't see that as the big takeaway from this story. "Oh yeah? Well what about the NAACP?!"

I'm sure over the years, Sterling gave them lots and lots of reason$. Hey, if you are going to engage in a secret pattern of housing discrimination for decades, being a philanthropist to the NAACP is probably a good PR move.


As is hiring and retaining Elgin Baylor as general manager (and paying him peanuts, of course).
 
2014-04-30 09:52:16 AM
Not too hard to understand.

These people can't be shamed; you can only threaten their bottom line.  This really has nothing to do with racism; it has a lot more to do with the "morality" of neoliberal assumptions.  The NBA is reacting to publicity that hurts their profitability.
 
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