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(Bloomberg)   While Elon Musk was busy touting SpaceX, Orbital Sciences went and did some science-y stuff in orbit   (bloomberg.com) divider line 54
    More: Cool, Orbital Sciences, Elon Musk, Orbital, SpaceX, Goldilocks, ATK, Dulles, Wallops Flight Facility  
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2014-05-01 10:32:24 AM  
Launching things into space using an internal propellant is primitive technology on the level with black and white television, not sustainable, and certainly not green.

Some billionaire or government needs to grow a pair and shell out for a launch loop.
 
2014-05-01 02:38:33 PM  
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SpaceX used NASA technology because that was the  point of NASA.  They also got help with their aeronautics and the PICA-X heat shield from NASA.  You got your cell phone and microwave oven from NASA.

While the Saturn-V did have two "engine outs", these were shutdowns due to out-of-tolerance parameters.  The SpaceX engine out was the engine departing the airframe, "out" the side of the vehicle.  They got two military contracts in the months following.  While still a nasty failure, it was great advertising that those ships can take a hit.

The only regulation (so far) on lunar travel is to leave existing artifact sites (cough Apollo cough) alone.  Other than that it's just the same man-rating and range safety regs as will happen on an ISS ferry flight.  Other than that, the US government would be delighted if you could fly a Mun mission this afternoon.  Looks good on the news to see America doing stuff.

Apollo took a huge national effort because they were doing it all for the first time without significant computing power.  By visiting the ISS, SpaceX has already flown missions as hard as the Agena target vehicle flights (though with unmanned rendezvous) that preceded Apollo.  Once Dragon is manned and going to the ISS, they have duplicated that effort entirely.

And they're doing stuff now that NASA never tried.  Delta Clipper was much like the Grasshopper, but that's as far as it went (conspiracy theory goes here).  NASA never tried to recover a first stage by relighting the engines and slamming the brakes after stage separation.  According to Elon, they've done it, to the point of controlled landing at sea.

SpaceX is the best thing to happen to US space science in a long time.
 
2014-05-01 07:11:21 PM  

studebaker hoch: Other than that, the US government would be delighted if you could fly a Mun mission this afternoon


HEH.

I see what you've been doing.

studebaker hoch: Apollo took a huge national effort because they were doing it all for the first time without significant computing power.  By visiting the ISS, SpaceX has already flown missions as hard as the Agena target vehicle flights (though with unmanned rendezvous) that preceded Apollo.  Once Dragon is manned and going to the ISS, they have duplicated that effort entirely.


The problem is one of infrastructure. Apollo was able to maintain communications at every point during the trip except for dark lunar orbit due to the massive effort by the US Navy, affiliated governments with the US, and thousands of communications and tracking stations.

I'm not doubting that SpaceX is good for US Space Science, Hoch, I'm just doubting the dialogue from Musk.
 
2014-05-01 09:32:55 PM  
We have way better communication infrastructure today.  TDRSS much?

In my book, SpaceX is telling the truth until proven guilty of lying.   I have no reason to doubt them.  They make incredible claims, and then drop incredible videos backing them up.

I think that's so cool.
 
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