The Bestest: *re-reads article twice*could someone help me correlate the headline to the article? I'm having difficulty
way south: this more sounds like the big threes plan to hobble Spacex.
szyska: Get it so we don't need the Russians for rides to the ISS and I'll be happy... for a little while. Then I'll want warp drive.
Buggar: The Bestest: *re-reads article twice*could someone help me correlate the headline to the article? I'm having difficultyYou have to look externally for the answer at the stock price jump due to the merger announcement. It wasn't really called out in the article.$27 to $33 is a sizeable jump. Although since the announcement, it has faded down to $30.Hardly soaring.
Vertdang: Well Jebediah Kerman used the Science Jr, but he forgot to do a crew report. How much total science did they earn on the mission?
GleeUnit: way south: this more sounds like the big threes plan to hobble Spacex.Explain?
mongbiohazard: I was trying to explain the awesomeness that is Elon Musk the other day to my wife. She listened attentively, nodded when appropriate and then said, "That's all great, but he needs a new farking name. That name is ridiculous."
Cpl.D: Vertdang: Well Jebediah Kerman used the Science Jr, but he forgot to do a crew report. How much total science did they earn on the mission?[i.imgur.com image 850x478]None yet. Jebediah is still pushing it back.
syberpud: Girls, Girls Girls! You're both pretty. Now get back to work and get us off this rock.
way south: Orbitals system needs Russian parts and that stock is now frozen.
Hella Fark: way south:The secret of Elons success seems to be in mass production. For this to work he needs payloads. Doesn't matter where they go or how big they are as his boosters can restart and deliver multiple sats per shot. He can also stack boosters for more power than anything else on the market.Hence the complaining when ULA got a bunch of launches with no competition. SpaceX might be able to do it cheaper and better but never got a chance to make a pitch. The government was more interested in preserving capability with companies that have a long standing history in it (a corrupt sweetheart deal for Lockheed and Boeing).1) size and destination absolutely matter, and SpaceX has only a single configuration to offer (no solid rocket boosters, no 'heavy' version, no light version anymore for that matter) and only a few flights so far that barely scratch the surface of possible missions they'd have to fly.2) the boosters can restart but this has nothing to do with multiple payloads, which has already be done by the way3) yeah he can "stack" boosters by strapping them together like the Delta IV heavy, but this is not trivial and has not been built or flight tested4) cheaper but not necessarily better. you get what you pay forthat said, I support what SpaceX is trying to do, but there's a lot more to space missions than just cargo trips to the ISS, no amount of whining will change that
way south: The Falcon Heavy version is slated for launch next year, largest thing going.
meat0918: Cpl.D: Vertdang: Well Jebediah Kerman used the Science Jr, but he forgot to do a crew report. How much total science did they earn on the mission?[i.imgur.com image 850x478]None yet. Jebediah is still pushing it back.I'm playing the career mode, and I can get to the Mun (sort of), but having enough fuel to get back is problematic.I launched a science sat just to get enough science.
hardinparamedic: way south: The Falcon Heavy version is slated for launch next year, largest thing going.[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x653][www.parabolicarc.com image 511x378]The Falcon Heavy still pales in comparison to Saturn V 2.0 (Erm, I mean SLS)
IntertubeUser: ^ Old and busted.New hotness ...[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x660]
hardinparamedic: way south: The Falcon Heavy version is slated for launch next year, largest thing going.The Falcon Heavy still pales in comparison to Saturn V 2.0 (Erm, I mean SLS)
StopLurkListen: hardinparamedic: way south: The Falcon Heavy version is slated for launch next year, largest thing going.The Falcon Heavy still pales in comparison to Saturn V 2.0 (Erm, I mean SLS)Wow, you're not kidding. What is that monster...
SewerSquirrels: I consider this good news. Competition is good & Orbital needed to do something. They have a limited supply of their first stage engines for Antares (that's why they wanted to start buying the RD-180, but got rejected). Their second stage is already powered by an ATK engine. I have no great love of ATK (for what are basically political reasons), but their engines have a pretty good record (with one obvious exception that was dealt with nearly 3 decades ago).Maybe they will end up serving that market that SpaceX skipped over when they dropped the Falcon 1e.
SewerSquirrels: At one point they were considering replacing the SLS block 2 solid rocket boosters with liquid engines possibly powered with an F1 derivative. I haven't heard anything lately though. I think they are more concerned with getting the block 1 to fly at this point. They may have been using it as a ploy to dicker with ATK over price. After all, a perchlorate engine isn't the most challenging thing to make.
way south: The 150 ton Falcon XX could compete with it for payload it if they give SpaceX a green light.A proposed 300 million per flight VS 500 million for SLS.
IntertubeUser: ^ Old and busted.New hotness ...
studebaker hoch: SpaceX won because it bet that it would be smart enough to do everything itself.
studebaker hoch: Now they have rockets that can withstand engine ruptures,
studebaker hoch: So I'm wondering if SpaceX, once its ships are man-rated, won't just go out to the Moon some weekend, scoop up some rocks and dirt, and come back home just to do it?
studebaker hoch: Once the re-usable rocket is reality, Elon could go out there anytime he wants.
hardinparamedic: From what I understand, there is a competition underway to design a new, reusable solid rocket booster for the block 2 system.
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