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(Opposing Views)   Good Samaritan sees a young woman being accosted by two thieves, swoops in and saves the day. Instead of sticking around for praise, "after the incident occurred, he bought some candy for his children and drove away"   (opposingviews.com) divider line 63
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2014-04-30 04:43:30 PM
5 votes:

Aello: Does anyone else think this woman was an idiot? She risked her life and leaving her children motherless for a purse... Sorry, there is nothing that can be worth a life in that purse.


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Nothing to say about the scumbags who were willing to kill a woman for her purse?
2014-04-30 04:46:39 PM
4 votes:
Unarmed Good Samaritan stabbed to death by knife-wielding thug.

Armed Good Samaritan unharmed, saves day.

Not often you get two pertinent object lessons in one day.
2014-04-30 05:50:26 PM
3 votes:

guestguy: Rhino_man: Guns can be good.  Guns can be GREAT, even, but we need a way to figure out who's going to use them to stop a robbery, like the guy in TFA, and who's going to use them to murder children, like the Newtown dickbag.

This.  Responsible gun owners are great...but how do we ensure that the vast majority of those who are allowed to purchase guns will actually be responsible with them?


By making them accountable for what happens to them except under the most extreme circumstances.

You can own any gun you want.  You can carry it anywhere you want.   However, if that gun gets out of your control and is used in a crime, you are an accessory to that crime.   That includes "It got out of my control because I left it in my car and someone stole my car," and "It got out of my control because I keep it under my bed and someone broke into my house" kinds of irresponsibility.

Gun control should start and stop with gun owners.  But because gun owners by and large are a group of people unwilling to admit they are not responsible with the storage of their weapons, it requires state intervention to remediate.

Guns should be on your person, or locked in a safe at home.
2014-04-30 05:30:41 PM
3 votes:

tbeatty: PreMortem: I think if it were anywhere else but Texas, the cops would've shot the good Samaritan. At least charged him with something.

Only in places where guns in the hands of good guys scare people.  This happens all the time in places where guns are carried routinely.  This one made the news because it had video.  That was awesome picture of lawful use of force by non-LEO and equally awesome display of what humbleness.  A similar case here, without the good Samaritan, ended in the death of the woman victim as she couldn't let go of the purse before falling and getting run over.  Her friends couldn't do anything about it and her wrist was tangled in the strap.  Glad this guy was here to stop it before it happened again.


Oh yeah?  Places like "Gun ownership is mandatory" Kennesaw, GA?  Let's search google news for "Kennessaw, GA."  I'm sure nothing will turn up.

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... oh.  Well surely he was stopped by a good guy with a gun, right?

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... Oh.
2014-04-30 05:27:45 PM
3 votes:

Rhino_man: Guns can be good.  Guns can be GREAT, even, but we need a way to figure out who's going to use them to stop a robbery, like the guy in TFA, and who's going to use them to murder children, like the Newtown dickbag.


This.  Responsible gun owners are great...but how do we ensure that the vast majority of those who are allowed to purchase guns will actually be responsible with them?  The loudest voices on the pro-gun side of the debate seem to want to make it easier for people to get guns, apparently arguing that the "gooduns" will sort out the "baduns"...that's myopic and silly, just like screaming "Get rid of all guns now!"  Gun control can and should be improved, and responsible gun owners should be championing it.
2014-04-30 04:33:11 PM
3 votes:

CruiserTwelve: OregonVet: Gosh, I'd pop some corn, but gun grabbers avoid stories such as this like the plague.

The reason stories like this make the news is because they're rare. On the other hand, gun homicides are so common that the news doesn't bother to report them any more.


No. They're not. Just most of the time people just call the police and that's the end of it. Reporters don't always want to run these stories. And an even more common occurrence is people using a firearm to scare away a criminal, and they either don't call the police or the police don't find enough evidence to pursue the case any further in any direction. It becomes a non-story.

Never ever ever presume that the likelihood of something appearing in a news story is directly correlated to how often that thing happens in life.

\Cop for 5+ years
2014-04-30 12:18:33 PM
3 votes:
I think if it were anywhere else but Texas, the cops would've shot the good Samaritan. At least charged him with something.
2014-04-30 09:53:12 PM
2 votes:

Aello: If you take someone's life, be prepared to live with their ghost the rest of your life. The ONLY way I'd be willing to kill someone is if my life were in direct danger or my son's was or someone had actually hurt him. There was no indication of violence other than the woman being dragged for holding onto her purse. Yes, I can understand if maybe there were medications that I or my child needed within the next few hours, but other than that, no. I'm letting it go. I know that I'm not 100% sure that I would do that in a particular situation, but, there are very few things in this life that I value over my or my son's continued existence.


So, I've been on the wrong end of a robbery. Three guys see me coming out of a brand new place of business in a pretty craptacular area of town, and figure out I'm the "computer guy", since I'm carrying electronics, come up, grab me, pull a knife and grab the stuff in my hands, and demand money. i gave 'em all the money in my wallet, but they decided it'd be fun to fark up the nerd, so they decided to beat the shiat out of me and stab me a few times for fun, then ran off laughing, leaving me laying there, bleeding out. I complied with their demands and made no attempts to resist and was nearly killed for it.

On another occasion, A man was going off in a tirade, screaming at a woman in his car, and when he thought I was going to back out of my parking space and hit him, he slammed on his brakes, jumped out, and got up in my face, and wouldn't back down even as much as I tried to defuse the situation, and was preparing to go past insults and started getting really damn close, and at that point I prepared to do the only thing I could at that point, which was to defend myself. yes, I had a firearm, yes I was prepared to use it. No, I didn't shoot him. He saw that I'd turned my body away from him and reached into my coat, and I guess that was enough for him to figure out not to start a fight, and he backed off.

Those are two personal, anecdotal events from my own life. But based on those events, I don't give a shiat, if you come towards me and act like you're going to start a fight, or if you get more aggressive than just snatching my bag and running and pose a threat, I'm going to do whatever it takes to end the threat, period, up to and including using a gun if I have to.

No, I don't want to shoot someone. In fact, I have reasons that still haunt me that make me very prone not to confront others or put myself in that position. But the bottom line is, me and my family's lives are far more important to me than the asshole who decides to get violent with me for no damn reason. Hell, farking steal the stuff out of my house, I don't care, it's all insured. But if you pose a threat to me and mine, and act like you want to hurt us, then fark you, I'm selfish and will value me over you any day of the week.
2014-04-30 06:43:40 PM
2 votes:

Rent Party: guestguy: Rhino_man: Guns can be good.  Guns can be GREAT, even, but we need a way to figure out who's going to use them to stop a robbery, like the guy in TFA, and who's going to use them to murder children, like the Newtown dickbag.

This.  Responsible gun owners are great...but how do we ensure that the vast majority of those who are allowed to purchase guns will actually be responsible with them?

By making them accountable for what happens to them except under the most extreme circumstances.

You can own any gun you want.  You can carry it anywhere you want.   However, if that gun gets out of your control and is used in a crime, you are an accessory to that crime.   That includes "It got out of my control because I left it in my car and someone stole my car," and "It got out of my control because I keep it under my bed and someone broke into my house" kinds of irresponsibility.

Gun control should start and stop with gun owners.  But because gun owners by and large are a group of people unwilling to admit they are not responsible with the storage of their weapons, it requires state intervention to remediate.

Guns should be on your person, or locked in a safe at home.


Car owners should be held responsible.  If your car is stolen and used in a crime, you should be charged as an accessory to that crime.
2014-04-30 05:56:15 PM
2 votes:

OregonVet: Gosh, I'd pop some corn, but gun grabbers avoid stories such as this like the plague.


I'm sure your use of "gun grabber", broad generalization and childish attack will really help people see your side of the argument.
2014-04-30 05:48:17 PM
2 votes:

Ilmarinen: I'm all for gun control in general, but I'll readily concede that this is an example where a good guy with a gun saved the day.

/don't think I've ever even seen a gun that wasn't on a cop or soldier or in a museum


I guess that's why they call it concealed carry.
2014-04-30 05:29:19 PM
2 votes:

guestguy: Rhino_man: Guns can be good.  Guns can be GREAT, even, but we need a way to figure out who's going to use them to stop a robbery, like the guy in TFA, and who's going to use them to murder children, like the Newtown dickbag.

This.  Responsible gun owners are great...but how do we ensure that the vast majority of those who are allowed to purchase guns will actually be responsible with them?  The loudest voices on the pro-gun side of the debate seem to want to make it easier for people to get guns, apparently arguing that the "gooduns" will sort out the "baduns"...that's myopic and silly, just like screaming "Get rid of all guns now!"  Gun control can and should be improved, and responsible gun owners should be championing it.


I'm a pro-gun liberal and I don't want to see easier access to owning guns. I do, however, want to see easier access to mental healthcare so people won't want to use a gun irresponsibily in the first place.
2014-04-30 05:03:23 PM
2 votes:

Aello: Does anyone else think this woman was an idiot? She risked her life and leaving her children motherless for a purse... Sorry, there is nothing that can be worth a life in that purse.


You make it sound like it was a calculated, thought out decision, when in fact, it was just her reaction.

MBooda: Unarmed Good Samaritan stabbed to death by knife-wielding thug.

Armed Good Samaritan unharmed, saves day.

Not often you get two pertinent object lessons in one day.


Most recent one I can think of came Dec 14, 2012.
Dec 14, 2012 -
Nutbag with a gun goes on a rampage in an elementary school killing 20 kids, wounding 6.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

Dec 14, 2012 - Nutbag with a knife goes on a rampage in an elementary school killing no one but wounding 24.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenpeng_Village_Primary_School_stabbin g
2014-04-30 04:51:15 PM
2 votes:

taurusowner: CruiserTwelve: OregonVet: Gosh, I'd pop some corn, but gun grabbers avoid stories such as this like the plague.

The reason stories like this make the news is because they're rare. On the other hand, gun homicides are so common that the news doesn't bother to report them any more.

No. They're not. Just most of the time people just call the police and that's the end of it. Reporters don't always want to run these stories. And an even more common occurrence is people using a firearm to scare away a criminal, and they either don't call the police or the police don't find enough evidence to pursue the case any further in any direction. It becomes a non-story.

Never ever ever presume that the likelihood of something appearing in a news story is directly correlated to how often that thing happens in life.

\Cop for 5+ years


I've personally stopped a robbery before. We heard a noise in the garage of a friend's house I was visiting, and found a dude rooting through their car. I drew, he ran, I don't shoot, and it was reported to the police but went nowhere.

/so yeah, it does happen, it's just not often a story.
2014-04-30 04:37:57 PM
2 votes:
Does anyone else think this woman was an idiot? She risked her life and leaving her children motherless for a purse... Sorry, there is nothing that can be worth a life in that purse.
2014-04-30 04:35:37 PM
2 votes:

taurusowner: CruiserTwelve: OregonVet: Gosh, I'd pop some corn, but gun grabbers avoid stories such as this like the plague.

The reason stories like this make the news is because they're rare. On the other hand, gun homicides are so common that the news doesn't bother to report them any more.

No. They're not. Just most of the time people just call the police and that's the end of it. Reporters don't always want to run these stories. And an even more common occurrence is people using a firearm to scare away a criminal, and they either don't call the police or the police don't find enough evidence to pursue the case any further in any direction. It becomes a non-story.

Never ever ever presume that the likelihood of something appearing in a news story is directly correlated to how often that thing happens in life.

\Cop for 5+ years


Also, there's the fact that a lot of times something like this may become a story in a small newspaper but never get picked up by a larger news organization, published online, or made a story of on Fark. Just because you personally have not read many stories about ____ doesn't mean ____ doesn't happen often.
2014-04-30 04:33:17 PM
2 votes:
Only the roid ragers we entrust to beat up the elderly and paralyzed should be allowed to have guns.
2014-04-30 01:14:39 PM
2 votes:
Hmm. . .Good Samaritan left before anyone could identify him?  And he bought candy for his children?  How do we know that they were 'his' children?  Leaving in such a hurry arouses suspicion.  Could he also been a child nabber in the midst of his own crime and did not want the police to show up and catch him with a couple of prepubescent sex romps?
2014-04-30 12:15:01 PM
2 votes:
Non OV Link (it's the one they linked to, sorry)
2014-04-30 11:59:52 AM
2 votes:
not everyone is an attention whore
2014-05-01 10:46:42 AM
1 votes:

tbeatty: anyone really glad that the Sandy Hook teacher didn't have a gun with her when her class was slaughtered?


Listen to yourself. You actually think it's reasonable that a kindergarten teacher should be expected to carry a gun to protect her students.
2014-05-01 02:41:52 AM
1 votes:

tbeatty: Surpheon:

Columbine had an armed and trained security on site (Jefferson County Sheriff's Deputy Neil Gardner). Or he's just a liar. Fort Hood had plenty of armed and trained MPs on site.

What is a "gun free" zone in your world?

It's funny that you mentioned all the people that carried guns in those places lived.  Even Gardner that traded shots with Columbine shooters used his gun and is alive.  Heck, he didn't even bring his glasses that day and his gun saved his life.  Now, let's talk about the gun-free dead people that did nothing wrong and followed the rules not to bring a gun with them .... anyone really glad that the Sandy Hook teacher didn't have a gun with her when her class was slaughtered?  Think it's coincidence that the shootings stop when other people with guns show up but not before?


Does that mean that you're happy that Adam Lanza had ready access to firearms and his mother ensured he had the training to effectively murder children?

Seems to me that the people who want to keep firearms our of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill are the ones taking a proactive position that attempts prevent shooting massacres in the first place.
You, on the other hand, are taking a reactive stance that increases the probability of more bullets flying into innocent bodies.

Given these two admittedly simple-minded alternatives, I'll take A with a side of mandatory registration and inspection, mental and physical health screening, safe storage requirements, proficiency training, and regular qualification for everybody. (But then, again, I like the idea of having a real United States Militia subject to civilian control again. Your opinion may differ.)
2014-05-01 01:16:52 AM
1 votes:

tbeatty: Rhino_man: tbeatty: PreMortem: I think if it were anywhere else but Texas, the cops would've shot the good Samaritan. At least charged him with something.

Only in places where guns in the hands of good guys scare people.  This happens all the time in places where guns are carried routinely.  This one made the news because it had video.  That was awesome picture of lawful use of force by non-LEO and equally awesome display of what humbleness.  A similar case here, without the good Samaritan, ended in the death of the woman victim as she couldn't let go of the purse before falling and getting run over.  Her friends couldn't do anything about it and her wrist was tangled in the strap.  Glad this guy was here to stop it before it happened again.

Oh yeah?  Places like "Gun ownership is mandatory" Kennesaw, GA?  Let's search google news for "Kennessaw, GA."  I'm sure nothing will turn up.


... oh.  Well surely he was stopped by a good guy with a gun, right?


... Oh.

Hmmm, let's examine your critical thinking skills.  Statement A) "Gun ownership is mandatory" Kennesaw, GA,   Fact B) Gunman kills 6 unarmed people in Kennesaw.   -- See the problem?  Like most gun free zones such as FedEx, Ft. Hood, Sandy Hook, Columbine, etc, etc, is that the good guys obey the rules and keep their means of defense out of the gun free zone.  The bad guys don't.  Result: Bad guys kill.

Here's what happens when "purse snatchers" use their car to help steal a purse and there is no good Samaritan or cop with a gun to stop it: Result: Bad guys kill.   It's a theme.

Student Dead after being dragged by car during snatching.  Caught up in strap.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/05/college_student_from_nj_dra gg e.html

Now use your google fu skills to see police confronting armed people with guns and see how that turns out.  A lot less Good Guys killed, a lot more bad guys killed and arrested.   It's easy top find deaths of unarmed victims by violent crime, deaths of people confronted by police for a crime of violence, and deaths of police by violent criminals.  Ask yourself why police carry guns when no law requires a gun to enforce it.


Thanks for bringing up Columbine. The school had 2 armed guards who did precisely farkall to prevent the murders.

You're not half as clever as you think you are with that "gun-free zone" talking point. It's idiotic.
2014-04-30 11:27:57 PM
1 votes:

Kit Fister: guestguy: I think the point is that, in the vast majority of scenarios, guns are far more versatile and effective weapons than cars...wouldn't you agree with that statement?

Depends on the goal. I find guns are limited because they are defeated by armor or obstacles, they only shoot in one direction, they tend to be limited in capacity and heavy to haul around, and can be defeated by anyone who wants to grab the gun and pull itout of my hands.

Cars can kill a broader swath of people, i don't have to haul it around, it can be massively up-powered with the right chemicals and do massive damage (Tim McVeigh anyone?).

So, on a sheer damage standpoint, a gun is great for certain things, but I can improvise a car, truck, jetliner, whatever into a much bigger weapon, and with a little planning, I could easily wait around a truck stop for a truck hauling propane, liquid oxygen or nitrogen, etc., to roll through, jack the truck, and ram it into a crowded building for grins.

A gun is a pretty simple one-trick pony, and based on statistical data, takes a hell of a lot more skill to utilize effectively than just ramming someone with a car.


Oh for fark sake...I'm not saying that every gun is an unstoppable death machine.  I'm saying that it is a weapon, it is designed to be a weapon, designed to kill/harm/damage at range, and in the case of handguns, designed to be easy to conceal.  A car is large, noticeable, and loud as it approaches (if you talk about how quiet hybrids are, I might have a stroke)...yes it can be improvised into a bomb, or could be driven into a crowd of people...someone could also kill a person with a desk lamp.  Performing these contortions to equate guns with tools or vehicles in terms of their effectiveness as weapons is not the slightest bit convincing and comes off as transparent and exceedingly foolish.  Firearms deserve special consideration, plain and simple.  Anyone who tries to argue against that is either willfully ignorant or a fool.  That said, I am nowhere near a proponent of trying to confiscate or outlaw them entirely, so allow me to burn that strawman before someone attempts to hastily assemble it.  I do think there is a great deal of room for improvement when it comes to regulation, and I wholeheartedly believe that responsible gunowners should lead the charge in that area.
2014-04-30 11:09:24 PM
1 votes:

Yellow Beard: guestguy: Rhino_man: Guns can be good.  Guns can be GREAT, even, but we need a way to figure out who's going to use them to stop a robbery, like the guy in TFA, and who's going to use them to murder children, like the Newtown dickbag.

This.  Responsible gun owners are great...but how do we ensure that the vast majority of those who are allowed to purchase guns will actually be responsible with them?  The loudest voices on the pro-gun side of the debate seem to want to make it easier for people to get guns, apparently arguing that the "gooduns" will sort out the "baduns"...that's myopic and silly, just like screaming "Get rid of all guns now!"  Gun control can and should be improved, and responsible gun owners should be championing it.

You do realize the overwhelmingly vast majority of gun owners are responsible right? Considering there are millions of gun owners and all.


How do you know that exactly?  How many have been through some kind of training?  How many are careful while handling and storing them at all times?  How many dumbass rednecks are out there that like to play with firearms while drunk (I've known more than a few, and I live in the northeast)?  How many are depressed, anxious, psychotic, unbalanced or have volatile tempers?  Just because someone doesn't use one to commit a crime and hasn't had an accident doesn't automatically make them a responsible gun owner.
2014-04-30 09:54:54 PM
1 votes:

Oblio13: CruiserTwelve: ... Personal experience tells me that instances of a gun being used in self-defense are far, far fewer than instances where a gun is used criminally.

\Cop for 41+ years

My personal experience tells me that I've used a gun once for self defense and never criminally.

/Decent fellow for 57+ years


Owned guns for 20 years. Family's owned guns for generations. No criminals, several cops, and several cases of self defense by firearm. My Uncle Dana still has a revolver with the evidence number on it from his case.

If we're going to go with anecdotal evidence based on experience, then I'm sure I could drum up at least 50 different law enforcement officers of varying types who all know people who have used firearms in self defense.
2014-04-30 08:06:31 PM
1 votes:

Aello: Does anyone else think this woman was an idiot? She risked her life and leaving her children motherless for a purse... Sorry, there is nothing that can be worth a life in that purse.


I'd rather see the two crooks dead.  I don't care if it was over the .50 she had in her wallet and a Fun-Size Snickers bar.  if my kids are in the car, fark you for getting anywhere near me or them.  Die.
2014-04-30 07:17:33 PM
1 votes:

Rent Party: OgreMagi:

Car owners should be held responsible.  If your car is stolen and used in a crime, you should be charged as an accessory to that crime.

When a car can be used to murder 30 kids in a school house, you get back to me.  Guns are weapons.  They require a higher standard of responsibility.


So is 30 the magic number I've been looking for?

If someone runs over 29 kids with a stolen vehicle they are the ones responsible, but if they finally hit that benchmark to 30 it becomes the car owners fault for allowing their car to get stolen as well?

How many people have to be on the casualty list to transition from an acceptable form of grievous injury or murder to an unacceptable form of grievous injury or murder?
2014-04-30 07:06:12 PM
1 votes:
OgreMagi:

Car owners should be held responsible.  If your car is stolen and used in a crime, you should be charged as an accessory to that crime.

When a car can be used to murder 30 kids in a school house, you get back to me.  Guns are weapons.  They require a higher standard of responsibility.
2014-04-30 07:01:05 PM
1 votes:

jaylectricity: K3rmy: Hmm. . .Good Samaritan left before anyone could identify him?  And he bought candy for his children?  How do we know that they were 'his' children?  Leaving in such a hurry arouses suspicion.  Could he also been a child nabber in the midst of his own crime and did not want the police to show up and catch him with a couple of prepubescent sex romps?

He talked to police. They took his weapon for a period of time before returning  He let them inspect his weapon. No word on if the weapon is still functional.


I wonder how many citizens could go up to an officer, take his weapon for a while and inspect the fark out of it?!?
2014-04-30 06:55:39 PM
1 votes:

blatz514: thelordofcheese:  I liked her better in Karate Kid 3.

There was a Karate Kid 3?


No, there wasn't.  He's a troll.  He likes to come into threads like this and claim that there were movies like Star Wars Eps. 1-3, Highlander 2, Matrices 2 and 3, and more than 1 season of Heroes.  Just ignore him.
2014-04-30 06:49:16 PM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2014-04-30 06:38:08 PM
1 votes:
I live in Houston and also happen to conceal carry. It's an insurance policy that I hope I never have to make a claim on.
2014-04-30 06:32:00 PM
1 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: OregonVet: Gosh, I'd pop some corn, but gun grabbers avoid stories such as this like the plague.

You mark yourself as an idiot when you use phrases like "gun grabbers".


This. Simple minded folks need an antagonist even if they have to create them when they don't exist.
2014-04-30 06:30:17 PM
1 votes:

OregonVet: Gosh, I'd pop some corn, but gun grabbers avoid stories such as this like the plague.


You mark yourself as an idiot when you use phrases like "gun grabbers".
2014-04-30 06:26:25 PM
1 votes:

tylerdurden217: What happens if a cop had been patrolling and saw the "good Samaritan" holding two people at gun point? Would there be any chance the cops shoot at the armed dude in plain clothes?


The chances of a cop happening by while there's an actual crime in progress is about 0.0001% in these parts. You're more likely to get hit by an asteroid.
2014-04-30 06:22:06 PM
1 votes:
What kind of moron purse snatches someone coming out of a dollar store? There weren't any soup kitchens nearby to knock off?
2014-04-30 06:13:48 PM
1 votes:

Rent Party: We can do thatexercise right here on fark if you like. Where are your guns, right now?


See what assuming gets you? I don't own any guns. Don't have any need.

My father owns a pair of hunting rifles he keeps locked up with the trigger lock, in a locked cabinet at home though that he takes out a few times a year for hunting.

I mean you could just keep assuming, but we're talking about people, not droplets of water, so great attempt at deflection but pick something more reasonable next time.

Saying a group of people, who are going to be as diverse as fingerprints and whatnot, trying to pick out a majority group behavior and applying it to a wide range is ignorant and irresponsible.

That's like the white racist who claims all X race are bad because he was mugged or had his place broken into.

Less assuming, it'd do you some good boyo.
2014-04-30 06:13:21 PM
1 votes:
What happens if a cop had been patrolling and saw the "good Samaritan" holding two people at gun point? Would there be any chance the cops shoot at the armed dude in plain clothes?
2014-04-30 05:57:34 PM
1 votes:
I'm pretty sure the moral of the story here is that no amount of white knighting is gonna do you any good if you forget to buy candy for your kids.
2014-04-30 05:57:06 PM
1 votes:

Capo Del Bandito: Rent Party: But because gun owners by and large are a group of people unwilling to admit they are not responsible with the storage of their weapons, it requires state intervention to remediate.

I wasn't aware that you knew the majority of gun owners.

How else could you figure out the mindset of the majority unless you were assuming that in your limited experience the people you've happened to come across tended to lean/act/a certain way.

But surely no reasonable person would assume the majority of anything without having personal knowledge of those people. Surely.


Because you're bad at math?   I'm going to bet you think you can't do water testing unless you test every drop of water in the tank, right?

We can do thatexercise right here on fark if you like.  Where are your guns, right now?
2014-04-30 05:53:50 PM
1 votes:

Rent Party: But because gun owners by and large are a group of people unwilling to admit they are not responsible with the storage of their weapons, it requires state intervention to remediate.


I wasn't aware that you knew the majority of gun owners.

How else could you figure out the mindset of the majority unless you were assuming that in your limited experience the people you've happened to come across tended to lean/act/a certain way.

But surely no reasonable person would assume the majority of anything without having personal knowledge of those people. Surely.
2014-04-30 05:38:08 PM
1 votes:

K3rmy: Hmm. . .Good Samaritan left before anyone could identify him?


He gave his name and so on to the cops.  His name isn't in TFA because he's a witness in the trial, and the police aren't in the business of releasing those.

This kind of story isn't actually all that uncommon in Texas, apparently we all took it pretty seriously when the purpose of our concealed carry law was to provide a backup preventative measure against crime.  Any decent-sized city in the state you'll see 5 or 6 of these stories in the local paper in a given year.  It's not really even section A material, and the cops certainly have their shiat worked out on how to handle it by now.

// In a large city it doesn't even usually make the paper, they've got no space for foiled crimes unless someone got away.
2014-04-30 05:32:05 PM
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And the headline in California will read:

COUPLE FORCED TO THE GROUND, TERRORIZED BY GUNMAN UNTIL POLICE ARRIVE !
2014-04-30 05:24:37 PM
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Aello: Just like there are things women can do better than men.


biatch, moan, complain, nag... you are correct.
2014-04-30 05:12:24 PM
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Aello: As a mother, my FIRST reaction is my kid and taking care him. The only way I'd risk my life is if he were in danger.


it's easy to monday morning quarterback the situation
2014-04-30 05:10:00 PM
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CADMonkey79: No comments about how small this guy's penis is or how lucky he is he didn't get shot with his own gun?

Wierd.



I'm no expert, but it could be because he's not posting stock photo's of futuristic guns to Fark and lying about owning and using them to stop crime.


/Just a hunch
2014-04-30 05:06:53 PM
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If thieves are that much of an issue in her neighborhood, she should just move somewhere else.

/Fark logic
2014-04-30 05:00:20 PM
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CruiserTwelve: taurusowner: Never ever ever presume that the likelihood of something appearing in a news story is directly correlated to how often that thing happens in life.

\Cop for 5+ years

I don't make that presumption. Personal experience tells me that instances of a gun being used in self-defense are far, far fewer than instances where a gun is used criminally.

\Cop for 41+ years


But most importantly, are you two getting a kick out of these replies?
2014-04-30 04:58:26 PM
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This story proves once and for all that any government regulation of firearms is unnecessary and Sandy Hook and Fort Hood and Columbine never happened and nobody ever gets murdered with guns.
2014-04-30 04:56:02 PM
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jaylectricity: K3rmy: Hmm. . .Good Samaritan left before anyone could identify him?  And he bought candy for his children?  How do we know that they were 'his' children?  Leaving in such a hurry arouses suspicion.  Could he also been a child nabber in the midst of his own crime and did not want the police to show up and catch him with a couple of prepubescent sex romps?

He talked to police. He let them inspect his weapon.


And then they gave it back.  He then bought some candy for his kids, and drove home.

More stories should end this way.
2014-04-30 04:54:01 PM
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taurusowner: Never ever ever presume that the likelihood of something appearing in a news story is directly correlated to how often that thing happens in life.

\Cop for 5+ years


I don't make that presumption. Personal experience tells me that instances of a gun being used in self-defense are far, far fewer than instances where a gun is used criminally.

\Cop for 41+ years
2014-04-30 04:53:57 PM
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No comments about how small this guy's penis is or how lucky he is he didn't get shot with his own gun?

Wierd.
2014-04-30 04:44:57 PM
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taurusowner: CruiserTwelve: OregonVet: Gosh, I'd pop some corn, but gun grabbers avoid stories such as this like the plague.

The reason stories like this make the news is because they're rare. On the other hand, gun homicides are so common that the news doesn't bother to report them any more.

No. They're not. Just most of the time people just call the police and that's the end of it. Reporters don't always want to run these stories. And an even more common occurrence is people using a firearm to scare away a criminal, and they either don't call the police or the police don't find enough evidence to pursue the case any further in any direction. It becomes a non-story.

Never ever ever presume that the likelihood of something appearing in a news story is directly correlated to how often that thing happens in life.

\Cop for 5+ years


a coworker had a guy tried to carjack him one time at a gas station. Guy walked up and tried to open the passenger door while he was distracted by another guy asking for directions. Neither one noticed his hand was clutching a pistol under his jacket till he leveled it right at the guy through the passenger window. Guys bolted out of there like lightning.

Never called the cops because he had an open beer and didn't want the hassle.
2014-04-30 04:44:04 PM
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guestguy: "Shoulda shot 'em in the head, yee-haw!"


If you are going to shoot a human, don't aim for the head. Don't try to "shoot 'em in the leg", either. Aim at center-mass.
2014-04-30 04:41:27 PM
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This thread is remarkably free of the usual "Shoulda shot 'em in the head, yee-haw!" Dirty Harrys.  There is hope after all.
2014-04-30 04:41:08 PM
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EvilEgg: Think about how much scarier the good Samaritan would have been with a full auto rifle.  This is why there is no room for sensible gun control.


Is prohibiting a law abiding citizen/good samaritan from purchasing a full auto gun from another law abiding citizen sensible gun control?
2014-04-30 04:33:34 PM
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OregonVet: K3rmy: Hmm. . .Good Samaritan left before anyone could identify him?  And he bought candy for his children?  How do we know that they were 'his' children?  Leaving in such a hurry arouses suspicion.  Could he also been a child nabber in the midst of his own crime and did not want the police to show up and catch him with a couple of prepubescent sex romps?

-1/10


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To avoid feeding them you must remove the HTML tagging.  It's a worthy nuisance.
2014-04-30 04:10:13 PM
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CruiserTwelve: OregonVet: Gosh, I'd pop some corn, but gun grabbers avoid stories such as this like the plague.

The reason stories like this make the news is because they're rare. On the other hand, gun homicides are so common that the news doesn't bother to report them any more.


Yeah, you just never hear about murders with guns involved anymore...
2014-04-30 03:04:12 PM
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OregonVet: Gosh, I'd pop some corn, but gun grabbers avoid stories such as this like the plague.


The reason stories like this make the news is because they're rare. On the other hand, gun homicides are so common that the news doesn't bother to report them any more.
2014-04-30 02:20:36 PM
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K3rmy: Hmm. . .Good Samaritan left before anyone could identify him?  And he bought candy for his children?  How do we know that they were 'his' children?  Leaving in such a hurry arouses suspicion.  Could he also been a child nabber in the midst of his own crime and did not want the police to show up and catch him with a couple of prepubescent sex romps?


-1/10
2014-04-30 01:47:42 PM
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K3rmy: Hmm. . .Good Samaritan left before anyone could identify him?  And he bought candy for his children?  How do we know that they were 'his' children?  Leaving in such a hurry arouses suspicion.  Could he also been a child nabber in the midst of his own crime and did not want the police to show up and catch him with a couple of prepubescent sex romps?


He talked to police. He let them inspect his weapon.
2014-04-30 11:36:16 AM
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Gosh, I'd pop some corn, but gun grabbers avoid stories such as this like the plague.
 
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