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(Sun Sentinel)   Gov. Rick Scott visits nursing home to listen to residents' complaints about Obamacare. What he heard: "Very happy," "no problems, "very pleased," "I'm completely satisfied"   (sun-sentinel.com) divider line 29
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2014-04-30 11:54:21 AM
5 votes:
Rick Scott is a shiatstain. He makes Florida look worse than it actually is. He's a giant walking siphon of public funds into his and his buddies' wallets.

So reviled is he that he's currently losing in early polls against Charlie "I was once a Republican" Crist, despite the massive flaming heaps of money spent on campaign commercials by pro-Scott PACs.

I can rarely go two commercial breaks on Hulu without seeing how Obamacare is hurting Florida families.

I'd vote for a steaming bucket of horseshiat before I'd vote for Scott, aside from the fact that I'm not entirely certain that a vote for the horseshiat wouldn't count as a vote for Scott.
2014-04-30 10:02:25 AM
4 votes:
Why would anyone in a nursing home be on Obamacare? They should all be on Medicare.
2014-04-30 08:43:02 AM
3 votes:
The Republicans' biggest nightmare about Obamacare was that Americans would end up liking it.
2014-04-30 11:08:18 AM
2 votes:

No Such Agency: Of course Americans like it.  It not only destroys democracy by voting for largesse from the public purse, it allows the government to force private corporations to transfer their profits to the population , enforced by the armed power of the state


Or it could just improve citizens' lives.
2014-04-30 03:37:50 PM
1 votes:

ItchyMcDoogle: It really does not matter if that is the only thing he's done in 8 years. It will be all he will be remembered for.


It's not the only thing, but so what if is?  There are a hell of a lot of presidents who aren't remembered for even one damned thing of even remotely equal significance.
2014-04-30 03:20:54 PM
1 votes:

Confabulat: ItchyMcDoogle: Im sure the GOP is already regretting calling it Obamacare. Thats near 8 million people who will vote for anyone who does not threaten to take it away.

This is the part the GOP didn't think through. They FREAKED OUT about website issues and the nearly 700,000 Americans who had to change their plans. OK, that was late 2013.

Here we are approaching election season, and over 8 million Americans have signed up that pretty much make those 700,000 Americans (who probably had ripoff plans anyway) seem less and less significant every day closer to November.

The GOP is notoriously clueless about what's going on with normal Americans though, so as always, they'll be surprised the day after the election to discover that they screwed up their message. Again.


And what's dumb is in the mad rush to attack Obamacare, they set the bar very low. So now the success seems even bigger.

They never get the idea to set expectations. Where Obama admin on the other hand set realistic, instead of saying everything would be perfect, and now people perceive everything turned out better than planned.
2014-04-30 02:57:31 PM
1 votes:

Huggermugger: SphericalTime: So the guy that defrauded the government out of a billion healthcare dollars is worried that people aren't getting the healthcare services that they pay taxes for?

Absolute scum.

Surely someone has asked him that question to his face. What was his response?


With this media? Hardly. Access to him is too important to risk offending him.
2014-04-30 02:41:45 PM
1 votes:

SphericalTime: So the guy that defrauded the government out of a billion healthcare dollars is worried that people aren't getting the healthcare services that they pay taxes for?

Absolute scum.


Surely someone has asked him that question to his face. What was his response?
2014-04-30 01:54:20 PM
1 votes:

No Such Agency: Confabulat: The Republicans' biggest nightmare about Obamacare was that Americans would end up liking it.

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.
- Alexander Tytler


I would hesitate to put too much weight on that kind of judgement from someone who died at a time when democracy barely existed, and when the extremely few examples he could draw on looked nothing like modern Liberal Democracy.
2014-04-30 12:24:26 PM
1 votes:

Corvus: Next up: Lets get state based public options. Lets also lower the age on medicare.

Lets go!


I wish we had just moved the Medicare cap way, way UP, and the age way, way down, like to birth.

I know, I know, fantasy land, it is.
2014-04-30 12:19:51 PM
1 votes:
Next up: Lets get state based public options. Lets also lower the age on medicare.

Lets go!
2014-04-30 12:04:05 PM
1 votes:
" I think we have to spread it around. This is the United States of America. It's not the United States of senior citizens," Rubin said from her spot two seats away from the governor."


You  just won yourself an American Eagle, with extra sparkles.

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2014-04-30 11:54:53 AM
1 votes:

Confabulat: No Such Agency: Of course Americans like it.  It not only destroys democracy by voting for largesse from the public purse, it allows the government to force private corporations to transfer their profits to the population , enforced by the armed power of the state

Or it could just improve citizens' lives.


Single-payer would improve them a lot more.  Involving private insurance companies is still just holding a rabid dog on a leash.  The layers of profit and corporate bureaucracy must inevitably be paid for somehow, the question is "why?" when they clearly add no value (as evidenced by the fact that Americans spend so, so much more than other nations and barely get equivalent care).
2014-04-30 11:30:53 AM
1 votes:
Dammit, I love those old people.  I'd send them a fruit basket if I thought their dentures could take it.
2014-04-30 11:22:36 AM
1 votes:

ckccfa: Goddamn Granny. Was Governor Luthor rushed to the burn ward after that?


He probably blinked uncomprehendingly. Altruism is not an emotion his species is capable of.
2014-04-30 11:16:38 AM
1 votes:

born_yesterday: MindStalker: I bet next time he will have some staff pre-interview the residents.

I can't believe he didn't do this in the first place--unless he actually believes all the bullshiat the right has been spewing about the ACA.


That's what's most ridiculous about that creep.  He's no Luthor.  He's really, really bad at being bad.  He frequently gets blocked by his own party in the state legislature.  He's done a 180 a ton of his own initiatives.

What kills me is when he claims credit for things he had nothing to do with.
2014-04-30 11:10:27 AM
1 votes:

Confabulat: The Republicans' biggest nightmare about Obamacare was that Americans would end up liking it.


THIS! All the GOP has is "Don't get sick but if you do, die quickly". That plan doesn't seem to resonate with the citizens for some peculiar reason.
2014-04-30 11:08:46 AM
1 votes:

MindStalker: I bet next time he will have some staff pre-interview the residents.


I can't believe he didn't do this in the first place--unless he actually believes all the bullshiat the right has been spewing about the ACA.
2014-04-30 11:07:41 AM
1 votes:
FTFA:
Eventually, Rubin said, Obamacare will become more popular. "People were appalled at Social Security.  They were appalled at Medicare when it came out. I think these major changes take some people aback. But I think we have to be careful not to just rely on the fact that we're seniors and have an entitlement to certain things," she said.
"We're all just sitting here taking it for granted that because we have Medicare we don't want to lose one part of it. That's wrong to me. I think we have to spread it around. This is the United States of America. It's not the United States of senior citizens," Rubin said from her spot two seats away from the governor.


Goddamn Granny.  Was Governor Luthor rushed to the burn ward after that?
2014-04-30 10:39:31 AM
1 votes:
There is a  possibility that non-voters will start voting for Democrats now that they have better health care under Obamacare.  These voters would be easily missed by most polls because they've never voted before and therefore would frequently be labeled as not likely to vote (even if they say they are likely to do so).

This is mostly wishful thinking at this point, but this theory is hard to prove one way or another until election day, as all or most polls will systematically be wrong in the Republican's favor if my theory is correct.
2014-04-30 10:31:59 AM
1 votes:

DamnYankees: Why would anyone in a nursing home be on Obamacare? They should all be on Medicare.


If you had read the article. Their medicaid payments had changed slightly due to the ACA. More importantly many of them had families who were directly affected by the ACA, so they knew it was helping people. Scott apparently picked the wrong retirement home to visit. I bet next time he will have some staff pre-interview the residents.
2014-04-30 10:31:55 AM
1 votes:

DamnYankees: Why would anyone in a nursing home be on Obamacare? They should all be on Medicare.


Scott was trying to push the ACA would cause Medicare. The seniors were great, even accepting such cuts if everyone else was suffering cutbacks too.

I'm sending flowers to that senior center with red, white and blue blossoms. What great Americans they are.
2014-04-30 10:27:40 AM
1 votes:
He should have taken a page from Issa's "fact finding" mission and put out an open call for people who had bad experiences, and bar anyone else from speaking.
2014-04-30 10:23:44 AM
1 votes:

oldernell: DamnYankees: They should all be on Medicare.

I'm not sure, but I think my supplemental was effected by ACA.  Pricing came down about 20 buck a month.


And Medicare is not free.  The cost of healthcare could go up for seniors due to the ACA.  It could also go down.
2014-04-30 10:21:24 AM
1 votes:

Confabulat: The Republicans' biggest nightmare about Obamacare was that Americans would end up liking it.


That's not a joke, it was their only rationale for opposing health care reform during Clinton's terms. Bill Kristol wrote the memo.
2014-04-30 10:19:56 AM
1 votes:

Confabulat: The Republicans' biggest nightmare about Obamacare was that Americans would end up liking it.


Yet they didn't stop them from naming it after the president so he would be attached to it, success or not.

I would ask if Republicans thought anything through, but I've been through 2001-2009 and the answer is obviously not.
2014-04-30 10:16:05 AM
1 votes:
So the guy that defrauded the government out of a billion healthcare dollars is worried that people aren't getting the healthcare services that they pay taxes for?

Absolute scum.
2014-04-30 10:05:05 AM
1 votes:

DamnYankees: Why would anyone in a nursing home be on Obamacare? They should all be on Medicare.


If I'm not mistaken, Republicans have been predicting (like they predicted death panels) that Medicare would be slashed due to Obamacare. This is an example of reality getting in the way of what Republicans think.
2014-04-30 08:46:22 AM
1 votes:
A more honest question from Scott would have been, "Do you think Obamacare has done more damage to Medicare than me?"
 
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