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(Fox News)   New documentary gives Bronies a chance to explain how normal and harmless they are. Naturally, the picture that accompanies the article shoots that hypothesis straight to Hell   (foxnews.com) divider line 83
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2014-04-30 08:46:13 AM  
Does this outfit make me look weird?

i1122.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-30 10:14:30 AM  
I'm using TFA's pic as my new Facebook profile pic.
 
2014-04-30 10:16:16 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-04-30 10:17:48 AM  
derpicdn.net
 
2014-04-30 10:19:11 AM  
The fans of anything ruin that thing.

//Except Ayn Rand, the fans just pile on to why that's terrible.
 
2014-04-30 10:23:21 AM  
For ages 8 and up, and up, and up...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6023crXgIQ

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-30 10:29:43 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: [derpicdn.net image 421x222]


Issue 18 is out, BTW.
 
2014-04-30 10:42:30 AM  
Maybe if they'd just shut up about it, not write and draw creepy pony stuff no one would give a fark about them?
 
2014-04-30 10:49:10 AM  

Calamityfox: For ages 8 and up, and up, and up...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6023crXgIQ

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 580x329]


and out...

/seriously...these guys are starting to make furries look normal, and we can't have that
 
2014-04-30 10:54:48 AM  

A Terrible Human: Maybe if they'd just shut up about it, not write and draw creepy pony stuff no one would give a fark about them?


Pretty soon it will be illegal to discriminate against them, and jobs will require you to hire at least one Brony to meet affirmative action quotas. The day the first Brony is elected President will be their finest hour.
 
2014-04-30 11:10:27 AM  
So it's kind of like Star Wars then?
 
2014-04-30 11:12:28 AM  

gravy chugging cretin.: So it's kind of like Star Wars then?


SHUT IT...SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH!!!

/damnit....8/10
 
2014-04-30 11:14:02 AM  
I've got nothing against Bronies, but of all fannish subcultures, it is the one that makes me scratch my
head.

And I've been to a HIGHLANDER convention.
 
2014-04-30 11:19:03 AM  
As an anime fan, I have to ask - are bronies better or worse than adult Precure fans?
 
2014-04-30 11:25:05 AM  
Furries are glad the heat is off them now probably.
 
2014-04-30 11:25:06 AM  
How does that quote go..."Let it harm none, then do as thou wilt" or something like that.
 
2014-04-30 11:26:10 AM  

adamatari: As an anime fan, I have to ask - are bronies better or worse than adult Precure fans?


Why is this hard?  Every group of fans of everything is worse than every other group of fans.
 
2014-04-30 11:48:31 AM  

gravy chugging cretin.: So it's kind of like Star Wars then?


Yes, but with added pedophilia.
 
2014-04-30 11:49:22 AM  
Who wants to be normal? That's just boring.
 
2014-04-30 11:56:34 AM  
I like TV shows too, But I normally don't create or join sub-cultures based around them or consider them a major part of my identity.
 
2014-04-30 12:19:55 PM  

browntimmy: I like TV shows too, But I normally don't create or join sub-cultures based around them or consider them a major part of my identity.


And no one says you have to.  But is there a TV show you like that is worth joining a sub-culture based around it?

Or a book?

Or a sports team?

Or a music band/performer?

There is "I like _____", then there is "I'm a fan of _____", and then there are Toronto Maple Leaf fans.
 
2014-04-30 12:21:59 PM  
That would be because this is Faux News, the same place that decided to compare Bronies to people with diaper fetishes. Otherwise known as "look at us! Watch us try really hard!"
 
2014-04-30 12:24:31 PM  

adamatari: As an anime fan, I have to ask - are bronies better or worse than adult Precure fans?


usually it's

main anime fans > hentai fans > dojin fans > bronies > furries

they keep finding pics like the one in TFA, then furries will get elevated...
 
2014-04-30 12:26:47 PM  

A Terrible Human: Maybe if they'd just shut up about it


You shut up about your interests first.
 
2014-04-30 12:38:51 PM  
fc02.deviantart.net
 
2014-04-30 12:54:17 PM  

groppet: Furries are glad the heat is off them now probably.


I feel like their is significant overlap between the two.  If anything, they're just glad it's being called something else.
 
2014-04-30 12:59:10 PM  
Look, watching a kid's cartoon is fine.  It indicates your literacy level is low if that's your primary form of entertainment, but given that the highest-rated news network is Fox you're not alone in having that problem.

Just... do not bother other people with it, that's being annoying, and don't try to make it into a core/dominant part of your identity, that's outright near psychopathic.

// Rule of thumb: if you're naming yourself some made-up or grammatically dodgy term based on your hobby, your obsession has become unhealthy.  "I'm a gamer" falls into the same general category, as does any cutesy portmanteau describing people that like a certain sport team.
 
2014-04-30 01:10:31 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Look, watching a kid's cartoon is fine.  It indicates your literacy level is low if that's your primary form of entertainment, but given that the highest-rated news network is Fox you're not alone in having that problem.

Just... do not bother other people with it, that's being annoying, and don't try to make it into a core/dominant part of your identity, that's outright near psychopathic.

// Rule of thumb: if you're naming yourself some made-up or grammatically dodgy term based on your hobby, your obsession has become unhealthy.  "I'm a gamer" falls into the same general category, as does any cutesy portmanteau describing people that like a certain sport team.


^This. And this goes for "Whovian", "Trekkie", "Team Jacob", or what-have-you.

/overheard yesterday: two adults discussing Harry Potter fan-fic
//cringed
 
2014-04-30 01:12:54 PM  
Oh, cool. An opportunity to make myself feel baselessly superior to some harmless person because they have a dumb hobby. My poorly ideated ego requires frequent reinforcement of this type.
 
2014-04-30 01:13:15 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Just... do not bother other people with it, that's being annoying, and don't try to make it into a core/dominant part of your identity, that's outright near psychopathic.


This stands even for more intellectual pursuits.  I spend a couple hours a day playing music, but I do it for fun, and it doesn't make me a musician.

Real identity comes from your gender.
 
2014-04-30 01:34:49 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: .

/overheard yesterday: two adults discussing Harry Potter fan-fic
//cringed


And?

As a fanfic writer (and aspiring novelist) what is wrong with fanfiction? Yes there is a LOT of trash in fanfics, maybe even more so than actual novels (and there is plenty of badly written novels out there) but amongst all that there are some real gems, especially in Harry Potter.

/if you have not written or seriously read a fanfic, you don't get to have opinions about fanfics.
 
2014-04-30 01:34:56 PM  
But the Bronies are harmless, Ball insists.

Doesn't it always begin like this?  Then the "surprise", "shock", and "outrage" that follow when the first scandals to get major media coverage come out?
 
2014-04-30 01:37:59 PM  
image1.frequency.com

All aboard the pony wagon!
/toot toot
 
2014-04-30 01:38:22 PM  

ShadowLAnCeR: And?


50 shades of grey
 
2014-04-30 01:40:22 PM  

tlchwi02: ShadowLAnCeR: And?

50 shades of grey


is a great example of bad writing that gets published anyways.
 
2014-04-30 01:49:46 PM  
I watch it for the secret messages and understories. First episode: Twilight, the junior bureaucrat, of the totalitarian Equestrian state ruled by the undying Princess Celestia, comes to watch over a minor backwater as training. There she meets the Party Organizer, the Costumer, the one pony responsible for the apple supply, and the regional surveillance drone. She has a hench dragon.

And there's a bit of rabbit hole. From obvious compositional issues (ponies appear to be a nanite goo, thus they can bend and smoosh) to fundamental societal issues (Spike operates the last film reel before it goes poof, the train fueled by coal one season and hauled by ponies the next). Celestia may actually be Eris, she owns a Golden Apple tree according to something Spike said.

Some of my favorite episodes have an anti-intervention understory. Sometimes someone tries to help, but it only hurts. And not just that Breezies episode.
 
2014-04-30 01:49:58 PM  

ShadowLAnCeR: tlchwi02: ShadowLAnCeR: And?

50 shades of grey

is a great example of bad writing that gets published anyways.


The annual 'Bad Sex Scene' contest features some incredible trainwrecks. Not only are they from published books, they're often from highly-touted writers, many of whom have won prestigious awards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Sex_in_Fiction_Award#Bad_Sex_in_Fic ti on_Award
 
2014-04-30 01:52:16 PM  

ShadowLAnCeR: is a great example of bad writing that gets published anyways.


and the number 1 example of fan fiction
 
2014-04-30 01:55:14 PM  
Wow, I was expecting a bad brony pic, but I wasn't expecting nightmare fuel turned up to 11. Hand that wacko a hunting knife and you've got an instant horror movie.
 
2014-04-30 02:04:42 PM  
Brony 'culture' is a mix of bestiality and pedophilia.

Why would anyone not embrace that?
 
2014-04-30 02:11:11 PM  
I think Ponies is popular with the male audiences because it combines the best of what traditionally "male-targeted" media has to offer with the best of what traditionally "female-targeted" media has to offer: The combination of strong characters, storytelling, and world-building and strong emotional and moral aspects.  And it doesn't dumb any of it down.

I'd originally avoided Ponies simply because I figured it was a typical "girls' show" where all the characters were carbon copies of each other who were individualized simply by their colors, and any problems they ran into were never more dire than deciding what dress to wear.

But it's not.  Every character is individualized in personality, and they all have flaws and problems that most real people can relate to, and go about dealing with those problems in ways that can actually apply to real life rather than having "the power of love" solve everything magically.

If you've never seen the show and think it's not "adult" enough (as if that term really has any meaning), it has episode that deal with problems like:
Anxiety over deadlines you have nothing to show for
Marketing vs. Engineering
Learning disabilities
Performance anxiety
Bullying
Ethnic tensions
Standing up to someone you care about
Taking on more than you can handle to "prove yourself"
Dealing with being swindled
Being passionate about something that no one else cares about

And just general parables on how to deal with life without blowing stuff up or being a jackass, because those aren't actually options in real life but tend to be the only solutions provided in traditionally "male" media.
 
2014-04-30 02:19:31 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: I've got nothing against Bronies, but of all fannish subcultures, it is the one that makes me scratch my
head.


I've just assumed it's one of those jokes that got of hand and morphed into an "Emperor's New Clothes" sort of thing. Someone on 4chan thought it would be funny to pretend to like a show for little kids, other folks joined in, and it just snowballs to the point where nobody's willing to admit was just a joke. People keep asserting that there's some sophisticated layer of humor buried in there, aimed at adults. Yeah, maybe assburgerey adults that are fascinated with pastel colors and memorizing names of things. I actually forced myself to watch an episode. There was absolutely nothing in there that wasn't aimed at your average eight-year-old. There were exactly zero things aimed at adults.

Yeah, I know, stop liking what I don't like. Well, the truth is what you like is designed entirely for little kids and is the most vapid, unsophisticated entertainment available.
 
2014-04-30 02:26:50 PM  
Prank Call of Cthulhu:

Yeah, I know, stop liking what I don't like. Well, the truth is what you like is designed entirely for little kids and is the most vapid, unsophisticated entertainment available.

But enough about sports and reality shows, this is about My Little Pony!
 
2014-04-30 02:53:54 PM  

ikanreed: The fans of anything ruin that thing.

//Except Ayn Rand, the fans just pile on to why that's terrible.


i2.listal.comderpicdn.net
WHO IS JOHN COLT?
 
2014-04-30 02:55:11 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: I actually forced myself to watch an episode. There was absolutely nothing in there that wasn't aimed at your average eight-year-old. There were exactly zero things aimed at adults.


Out of curiosity, what episode was it?  Like all shows, it has its share of dud episodes.  I wouldn't blame someone for hating Doctor Who based solely on "Love and Monsters", Star Trek: TNG based solely on season 2, Star Wars based solely on the prequels, or the Batman movies based solely on "Batman and Robin".

If you only watched the first episode of MLP, it is, admittedly, pretty vapid compared to the majority of the rest of the series.  "Lesson Zero" is usually the introductory episode I recommend to people who are curious about the show.  It's not necessarily the "best" episode (though it is very good), but it's probably one of the easier episodes to watch without any prior knowledge of the show and has interactions with pretty much the entire main and secondary cast, plus a conflict that pretty much everyone has experienced at some point.

/I remember introducing a doubting friend to the show via that episode, and within five minutes she was shouting, "OH MY GOD, TWILIGHT, I FEEL YOU!"
//She's an overworked grad student
 
2014-04-30 03:05:00 PM  
I was reading fine, up until this point:

"Princess Celestia is amazing... Of all the characters on the show, that's the one I've come to admire the most. She's lived a thousand years and it feels like it..." he tells the camera passionately. "Any adult, who has really gone through it all and been really thoughtful and really caring and anything like that, is going to be a Princess Celestia."


aaah. AAAaaaAAAGH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
 
2014-04-30 03:13:21 PM  
While I don't see anything wrong with being a brony, I find most Bronies to be very weird and off-putting. Like dragon ball z fans.
 
2014-04-30 03:16:46 PM  

ikanreed: adamatari: As an anime fan, I have to ask - are bronies better or worse than adult Precure fans?

Why is this hard?  Every group of fans of everything is worse than every other group of fans.


Wrong, as this chart will demonstrate.  Note that Bronies are on the same level as Furries.

gaygamer.net
 
2014-04-30 03:16:58 PM  

parkerlewis: How does that quote go..."Let it harm none, then do as thou wilt" or something like that.


A sub-culture that presents a public face of being harmless while slyly encouraging bestiality and pedophilia is not doing "no harm".  The harmless members are providing cover and legitimacy to deviants.
 
2014-04-30 03:21:08 PM  

2chris2: Wrong, as this chart will demonstrate. Note that Bronies are on the same level as Furries.


The most amusing thing about this chart is it pretends there's a difference between furries and "erotic" furries.
 
2014-04-30 03:21:48 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: A Terrible Human: Maybe if they'd just shut up about it

You shut up about your interests first.


I didn't mention my interests at all. Why are you angry?
 
2014-04-30 03:23:55 PM  

sabreWulf07: parkerlewis: How does that quote go..."Let it harm none, then do as thou wilt" or something like that.

A sub-culture that presents a public face of being harmless while slyly encouraging bestiality and pedophilia is not doing "no harm".  The harmless members are providing cover and legitimacy to deviants.


i6.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-30 03:25:16 PM  
2012 called, they want their tired jokes back.

Yeah, yeah, I know.

/b/Fark was never good.
 
2014-04-30 03:40:24 PM  

2chris2: ikanreed: adamatari: As an anime fan, I have to ask - are bronies better or worse than adult Precure fans?

Why is this hard?  Every group of fans of everything is worse than every other group of fans.

Wrong, as this chart will demonstrate.  Note that Bronies are on the same level as Furries.

[gaygamer.net image 572x629]


"Erotic Furries"

So that includes James Cameron and all those  Avatar fans now, right?

I mean, come on, he movie was 80% naked blue cat people.
 
2014-04-30 03:56:48 PM  

Fast Moon: Prank Call of Cthulhu: I actually forced myself to watch an episode. There was absolutely nothing in there that wasn't aimed at your average eight-year-old. There were exactly zero things aimed at adults.

Out of curiosity, what episode was it?


One of the characters went to flying school and learned a lesson about believing in themselves or trying new things or some shiat. I'm seeing your argument about characters that have identifiable characteristics and teaching moral lessons, but how is that any different than, say, Sesame Street?
 
2014-04-30 04:10:56 PM  

Dhusk: 2chris2: ikanreed: adamatari: As an anime fan, I have to ask - are bronies better or worse than adult Precure fans?

Why is this hard?  Every group of fans of everything is worse than every other group of fans.

Wrong, as this chart will demonstrate.  Note that Bronies are on the same level as Furries.

[gaygamer.net image 572x629]

"Erotic Furries"

So that includes James Cameron and all those  Avatar fans now, right?

I mean, come on, he movie was 80% naked blue cat people.


And as beautiful as she is in real like, I'd much rather make time with Zoe Saldana as a Na'avi.

/Don't judge me, man!
 
2014-04-30 04:20:36 PM  

groppet: Furries are glad the heat is off them now probably.


I think they prefer to be in heat

NTTAWWT
 
2014-04-30 04:23:40 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Look, watching a kid's cartoon is fine.  It indicates your literacy level is low if that's your primary form of entertainment, but given that the highest-rated news network is Fox you're not alone in having that problem.

Just... do not bother other people with it, that's being annoying, and don't try to make it into a core/dominant part of your identity, that's outright near psychopathic.

// Rule of thumb: if you're naming yourself some made-up or grammatically dodgy term based on your hobby, your obsession has become unhealthy.  "I'm a gamer" falls into the same general category, as does any cutesy portmanteau describing people that like a certain sport team.


Pretty much how I feel. We all have the right to have a few nerdy obsessions - I might dabble in a few, myself - but past a certain level of obsession it's going to seem a little odd to outsiders.

Example: I think this is why some gun people sometimes seem odd to us non-gun people. Enjoy shooting? Collecting? Need it for protection? Cool, go have fun. Pretend that your hobby makes you more noble and fundamentally more of a MAN? Think you're special because you know the difference between a "clip" and a "magazine"? Nope, you're just another subspecies of nerd, that's all.
 
2014-04-30 04:24:06 PM  

rustypouch: Brony 'culture' is a mix of bestiality and pedophilia.

Why would anyone not embrace that?


I'm pregnant You tried too hard
 
2014-04-30 04:25:26 PM  

strangeluck: rustypouch: Brony 'culture' is a mix of bestiality and pedophilia.

Why would anyone not embrace that?

I'm pregnant You tried too hard



Okay, wtf Fark, your filter turned a word I posted into "I'm pregnant" what the hell is up with that?
 
2014-04-30 04:54:11 PM  

strangeluck: I'm pregnant You tried too hard


I just about fell out of my chair laughing. Fantastic filtering.
 
2014-04-30 04:58:38 PM  
Hodor is a brony, your argument is invalid.
2.bp.blogspot.com

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-04-30 05:00:20 PM  

strangeluck: strangeluck: rustypouch: Brony 'culture' is a mix of bestiality and pedophilia.

Why would anyone not embrace that?

I'm pregnant You tried too hard


Okay, wtf Fark, your filter turned a word I posted into "I'm pregnant" what the hell is up with that?


What was the word?
 
2014-04-30 05:11:10 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: DjangoStonereaver: I've got nothing against Bronies, but of all fannish subcultures, it is the one that makes me scratch my
head.

I've just assumed it's one of those jokes that got of hand and morphed into an "Emperor's New Clothes" sort of thing. Someone on 4chan thought it would be funny to pretend to like a show for little kids, other folks joined in, and it just snowballs to the point where nobody's willing to admit was just a joke. People keep asserting that there's some sophisticated layer of humor buried in there, aimed at adults. Yeah, maybe assburgerey adults that are fascinated with pastel colors and memorizing names of things. I actually forced myself to watch an episode. There was absolutely nothing in there that wasn't aimed at your average eight-year-old. There were exactly zero things aimed at adults.

Yeah, I know, stop liking what I don't like. Well, the truth is what you like is designed entirely for little kids and is the most vapid, unsophisticated entertainment available.


Vapid and unsophisticated? Maybe. These judgments are all somewhat subjective. But the most vapid and unsophisticated thing avalible? No way dude. Rock bottom is a long way down from here.
 
2014-04-30 05:16:29 PM  
Buggar:

What was the word?

"I'm pregnant"

I guess the admins are having fun with us now, when people try to rate a troll attempt, it will convert it into "I'm pregnant," especially if you follow it up with "You tried too hard."
 
2014-04-30 05:20:36 PM  

Oakenhelm: strangeluck: I'm pregnant You tried too hard

I just about fell out of my chair laughing. Fantastic filtering.


Agreed!
 
2014-04-30 05:22:14 PM  

ShadowLAnCeR: ArcadianRefugee: .

/overheard yesterday: two adults discussing Harry Potter fan-fic
//cringed

And?

As a fanfic writer (and aspiring novelist) what is wrong with fanfiction? Yes there is a LOT of trash in fanfics, maybe even more so than actual novels (and there is plenty of badly written novels out there) but amongst all that there are some real gems, especially in Harry Potter.

/if you have not written or seriously read a fanfic, you don't get to have opinions about fanfics.


Hey, for all we know they were talking about Methods of Rationality and deserve the hate.
 
2014-04-30 05:51:22 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Rule of thumb: if you're naming yourself some made-up or grammatically dodgy term based on your hobby, your obsession has become unhealthy. "I'm a gamer" falls into the same general category, as does any cutesy portmanteau describing people that like a certain sport team.


Naming yourself that, yeah.

Identifying to that when the topic comes up, not so much.

"Gamer" falls more to the later, imo.  Fisherman, runner, gardener, ham radio operator, hunter, beer drinker....etc.  These hobbies do not create or misappropriate wordage or necessitate any sort of, well, anything aside from being generically descriptive of the actual hobby.

Bronie, Maker, etc, are more of the former.  These are the new hipster versions of "connoisseur" or "aficionado", go beyond being simply descriptive into the area of making that given hobby sound somehow "special"(or make it sound like the person identifying as such thinks it's special).

Granted, a lot of gamers are douches, but the same is true of any given hobbiest.  Anyone who says MLG, pro, clutch, twitch, etc....they're "naming" themselves.  Gamers at large?  No.

And sure, if you only ever play farmville you're not a gamer(to most gamers).  Same as how if you run away from an animal you're not a "runner", go fishing one week of the year you're not much of a fisherman, if you listen to FM you're not that into radio's.
 
2014-04-30 05:58:48 PM  

strangeluck: I guess the admins are having fun with us now, when people try to rate a troll attempt


Yes! Awesome new filter!

You gotta admit, "troll ratings" are pretty tiresome.
 
2014-04-30 06:04:11 PM  

2chris2: ikanreed: adamatari: As an anime fan, I have to ask - are bronies better or worse than adult Precure fans?

Why is this hard?  Every group of fans of everything is worse than every other group of fans.

Wrong, as this chart will demonstrate.  Note that Bronies are on the same level as Furries.

[gaygamer.net image 572x629]


thank you for posting this and settling it for anyone on the fence. I scanners the thread before posting it myself.
 
2014-04-30 06:32:18 PM  

strangeluck: rustypouch: Brony 'culture' is a mix of bestiality and pedophilia.

Why would anyone not embrace that?

I'm pregnant You tried too hard


That's what she said.
 
2014-04-30 06:43:28 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Hodor is a brony, your argument is invalid Hodor.
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 850x567]

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x667]


FTFY

/Hodor
 
2014-04-30 06:49:33 PM  

spamdog: strangeluck: I guess the admins are having fun with us now, when people try to rate a troll attempt

Yes! Awesome new filter!

You gotta admit, "troll ratings" are pretty tiresome.


Eh, sometimes. Just a quick easy way to mock a troll. Is this the Admins way of saying we need to try harder to mock the trolls? We need to add some style and finesse to our mockery?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-04-30 07:02:06 PM  

strangeluck: spamdog: strangeluck: I guess the admins are having fun with us now, when people try to rate a troll attempt

Yes! Awesome new filter!

You gotta admit, "troll ratings" are pretty tiresome.

Eh, sometimes. Just a quick easy way to mock a troll. Is this the Admins way of saying we need to try harder to mock the trolls? We need to add some style and finesse to our mockery?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 514x556]


What you do is sarcastically agree with the troll and do it in such a way that no on realizes your sarcasm so they think you're also trolling.
/Trollception.
 
2014-04-30 07:46:23 PM  

A Terrible Human: strangeluck: spamdog: strangeluck: I guess the admins are having fun with us now, when people try to rate a troll attempt

Yes! Awesome new filter!

You gotta admit, "troll ratings" are pretty tiresome.

Eh, sometimes. Just a quick easy way to mock a troll. Is this the Admins way of saying we need to try harder to mock the trolls? We need to add some style and finesse to our mockery?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 514x556]

What you do is sarcastically agree with the troll and do it in such a way that no on realizes your sarcasm so they think you're also trolling.
/Trollception.


Also, the "troll rating" is not an insult or mocking of a troll, merely a foil(like posting "the rock" before someone asks for the original)..  If it's mocking, it's against people who are serious.(treating them as if they're a preposterous troll).  And that's fairly common.

IMO(as is the whole post, fyi), if you think it's an obvious troll(as in trolling for bites), sssshhhhh.  It's fun to see who reveals themselves as biters(ie the mentally slow, or the knee jerk reactionary types)....Unless it's late in the thread and the "troll" was early.  Lots of bites it's a 10, none and it's a 0.

It's a great sign for who's going to have what kind of attitude or mental climate.

Now, if an argument goes on and on, it's not the same as a normal troll, imo, looking for bites.  In that case the poster is just argumentative(who may or may not agree / be playing devils advocate).  At that point, it's not about the bites.
You can then call them a "troll", but not score them.  At that point it takes on the other meaning of troll, the kind under the bridge.

Now, you can be trolling(fishing), and once you get bites, morph into the other kind of troll.  That's fairly common, but it's rarely as sporting as the typical(fishing) variety.  The fishing variety can be very much an art, the argumentative variety is harder to pull off as an art, therefore is rarely deserving of a scored rating.

/my thoughts on the matter at any rate

Relegating anyone you disagree with to the role of "troll", however, is one of the oldest and lamest tricks in the book.  Yet, it's very applicable, because a lot of people seem to have come from directly under the bridge.  It's a use with caution write-off.  It's very allowable if the suspected troll has problems being objective, providing evidence, etc.  Right off the bat, however, if you do this in lieu of evidence/discussion, it's worthless.  You have to demonstrate that they're being dishonest/disengenuine/employing fallacy after fallacy, then you can write them off.

/now, that's two diatribes in one thread from me, and topically, almost off the ranch, so to speak.(atleast they're direct replies to others)
//You should consider yourselves graced.
 
2014-04-30 07:56:42 PM  
Man, Pony Threads have gone to hell. They use to be full of lots of recriminations, insults, ect. Now it's one lone troll it feels like. Did they get tired of us?
 
2014-04-30 08:07:37 PM  
"Troll ratings" are common on 4chan, too - as well as a new one, the bait macro image:

forums.oce.leagueoflegends.com

They both constitute rising to the bait.

You just dropped in to let everyone know the comment both upset you, and that you're sooooo not falling for it.
 
2014-04-30 09:29:21 PM  
That happens in every fandom. The majority who like the show don't dress up in costumes though.

assets.nydailynews.com

nerdbastards.com
 
2014-04-30 09:48:13 PM  

Skyfrog: That happens in every fandom. The majority who like the show don't dress up in costumes though.

[nerdbastards.com image 384x307]


That's Sailor Bubba. He does it specifically for the lulz of it. He does it to fark with people. It works. It's not an example of a pathetic fanbase, it's an example of shenanigans for the sake of farking with people.
 
2014-04-30 10:20:25 PM  
Fast Moon:
If you've never seen the show and think it's not "adult" enough (as if that term really has any meaning), it has episode that deal with problems like:
Anxiety over deadlines you have nothing to show for
Marketing vs. Engineering
Learning disabilities
Performance anxiety
Bullying
Ethnic tensions
Standing up to someone you care about
Taking on more than you can handle to "prove yourself"
Dealing with being swindled
Being passionate about something that no one else cares about

And just general parables on how to deal with life without blowing stuff up or being a jackass, because those aren't actually options in real life but tend to be the only solutions provided in traditionally "male" media.

This is why I like the show. The third episode of the first season was about
 sleep deprivation. Why would a show targeted toward little girls have this has a theme? MLP:FiM seems to have a kind of duality...one part is for kids and the other is more adult where kids might not see it now but in the future (high school) they will start to have these experiences.
 
2014-04-30 10:47:36 PM  

godwin5: Fast Moon:
If you've never seen the show and think it's not "adult" enough (as if that term really has any meaning), it has episode that deal with problems like:
Anxiety over deadlines you have nothing to show for
Marketing vs. Engineering
Learning disabilities

(*twi-snipped*)

This is why I like the show. The third episode of the first season was about sleep deprivation. Why would a show targeted toward little girls have this has a theme? MLP:FiM seems to have a kind of duality...one part is for kids and the other is more adult where kids might not see it now but in the future (high school) they will start to have these experiences.


My name may betray a slight bias in favor of the show, and I was certainly hooked long before Lesson Zero, let alone the beer/cider episode with the reference to "The Music Man" that inspired this thread.

The implicit QA lesson in the story of Flim and Flam (and why people are willing to pay a premium and stand in line for hours to get a growler of craft beer over Budweiser, despite the incredible technology that major brewers have invested into upscaling production) is a lesson that you probably don't appreciate until you've been in the business world a few years. Even through your college years, slapping something together at the last minute and shipping whatever you have by the deadline is acceptable practice*.

derpicdn.net

* considering how Agile is actually practiced in the real world, rather than the ideal preached by consultants with the word "agilista" on their business cards, it's probably a lesson most people don't learn until their 30s, never mind their 20s...
Dear Princess Celestia,

Today I remembered that the only cider that foams is the kind that's fermented. Anyways, where was I? Oh yeah. Cider. I like cider.

Your Faithful Student,
Twilight Farkle.
 
2014-05-01 08:45:33 AM  

Twilight Farkle: The implicit QA lesson in the story of Flim and Flam (and why people are willing to pay a premium and stand in line for hours to get a growler of craft beer over Budweiser, despite the incredible technology that major brewers have invested into upscaling production) is a lesson that you probably don't appreciate until you've been in the business world a few years. Even through your college years, slapping something together at the last minute and shipping whatever you have by the deadline is acceptable practice*.


Yeah, I'm in engineering, and I always get behind "Suited For Success" as a story about engineers being beholden to their clients who have no idea how any of the technology works, but demand that you "make it do this".  And so you end up with a toaster with an LCD touchscreen that runs Angry Birds and doesn't actually make toast.

All we ever want is indecision
All we ever like is what we know
Have to balance style with adherence
Making sure to make a good appearance
Even if you simply have to fudge it
Make sure that it stays within our budget
Got to overcome intimidation
Because it's all in the presentation


= story of my career
 
2014-05-01 11:45:13 AM  

Fast Moon:
= story of my career


t1.gstatic.com

Seconded. And when it's finally ready to ship, there's always one sales/marketing guy who only knows that it needs to be about 20% cooler.
 
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