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(Some Guy)   Colorado school makes kids say Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic, changes "under God" to "under Allah." You're damn right some people have a problem with this   (gopthedailydose.com) divider line 467
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2014-04-29 10:07:12 PM  
What did the school make kids do? Oh that's right, the school made kids do nothing.


And to be perfectly honest, this is a Todd Starnes article, I am hesitant to believe that there is even a cultural club, this school, a city of Ft. Collins or even a state of Colorado.
 
2014-04-29 10:24:01 PM  
The Muslim Brotherhood front group CAIR chimed in saying, "Obviously in Arabic, you would use the word Allah, but Christian Arabs would use the word Allah." Their spokesperson, Ibrahim Hooper, claimed use of the word Allah is "not necessarily specific to Islam and Muslims." From an American point of view, it is, whether he is technically correct or not, to Americans, in America, it's a specific Muslim and Islamic reference.

He IS technically correct. Also generally correct. The only Americans, in America, where it's specific to Muslims are the moron Americans that don't know basic fuking facts.
 
2014-04-29 10:25:25 PM  
The word "Allah" means "God" in Arabic.

What else should they say?

Just the one word, "God" in English, so there's no confusion that they mean Jesus's Dad only, not the Jewish God or the Mormon God, and CERTAINLY NOT the Muslim God?
 
2014-04-29 10:35:50 PM  
It's a Muslim reference. That's why I eat chick-pea mash, clean my face with a freedom wiper, and then kick back and relax with some friends while we smoke flavored tobacco out of a tree-of-liberty pipe.
 
2014-04-29 10:37:28 PM  
Allah is the Arabic word for God.  It's the same damn word, just a different language.  WTF?  Do they have objection over the French word for God?  German?  Japanese?  No?  STFU!
 
2014-04-29 10:43:29 PM  

Ambivalence: Allah is the Arabic word for God.  It's the same damn word, just a different language.  WTF?  Do they have objection over the French word for God?  German?  Japanese?  No?  STFU!


These idiots can't even grasp the fact that THEY WORSHIP THE SAME FREAKING GOD
 
2014-04-29 10:48:46 PM  
the only way this could be good is if they do it in a different language every week.
that shows diversity.

i would have walked out.
 
2014-04-29 10:51:48 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Ambivalence: Allah is the Arabic word for God.  It's the same damn word, just a different language.  WTF?  Do they have objection over the French word for God?  German?  Japanese?  No?  STFU!

These idiots can't even grasp the fact that THEY WORSHIP THE SAME FREAKING GOD


Shhhhhhhhh!

They'll hear you ...
 
2014-04-29 11:01:49 PM  

WTP 2: the only way this could be good is if they do it in a different language every week.
that shows diversity.

i would have walked out.


True or not, you wouldn't see it in a Todd Starnes piece. And by piece, I mean a piece of shiat.
 
2014-04-29 11:05:36 PM  
My does the author of that blog have a lot of sand in his vagina.
 
2014-04-29 11:17:04 PM  

TheCheese: The word "Allah" means "God" in Arabic.

What else should they say?


Exactly.

Stupid Teabaggers.
 
2014-04-29 11:20:39 PM  
The entire concept of a pledge of allegiance to a country is rather creepy.
 
2014-04-29 11:26:06 PM  
If they did it in German and said "unter Gott", no way in hell Todd Starnes would be sending his hate monkeys towards Ft. Collins.
 
2014-04-29 11:37:08 PM  
My hat is off to whoever okayed that. Awesome troll job. Only thing better is if it had been in Colorado Springs.
 
2014-04-29 11:39:32 PM  
The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one...

You all focus on the semantics of God vs Allah while ignoring the whole idea of making kids say the Pledge in Arabic. And do you think any Arab country would reciprocate with their own attempt to "destroy the barriers, embrace the cultures" of the US?

Oh forget it, why am I bothering?
 
2014-04-30 12:03:29 AM  

impaler: The Muslim Brotherhood front group CAIR chimed in saying, "Obviously in Arabic, you would use the word Allah, but Christian Arabs would use the word Allah." Their spokesperson, Ibrahim Hooper, claimed use of the word Allah is "not necessarily specific to Islam and Muslims." From an American point of view, it is, whether he is technically correct or not, to Americans, in America, it's a specific Muslim and Islamic reference.

He IS technically correct. Also generally correct. The only Americans, in America, where it's specific to Muslims are the moron Americans that don't know basic fuking facts.


swtor.gamingfeeds.com
 
2014-04-30 12:05:51 AM  

traxan: The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one...

You all focus on the semantics of God vs Allah while ignoring the whole idea of making kids say the Pledge in Arabic. And do you think any Arab country would reciprocate with their own attempt to "destroy the barriers, embrace the cultures" of the US?

Oh forget it, why am I bothering?


We're on generally good terms with a few places over there, Jordan and Kuwait come to mind.

The bigger question is, why should we measure our own attempts to be more culturally open against the bar set by the middle east?
 
2014-04-30 12:12:09 AM  

traxan: The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one...

You all focus on the semantics of God vs Allah while ignoring the whole idea of making kids say the Pledge in Arabic. And do you think any Arab country would reciprocate with their own attempt to "destroy the barriers, embrace the cultures" of the US?

Oh forget it, why am I bothering?


I'm sure you're right. No Arab country has ever translated anything into English in school. Roll with that.
 
2014-04-30 12:15:57 AM  
Fundie parents getting their panties in a bunch over two words that were added to what is equivalent of the Armour Hot Dog theme (the pledge pretty much came about as a way to sell flags to schools), two words that were added to supposedly distinguish "us from the godless commies" (Russians for you slower folk, vodka drinking bear wrestlers)

When it asked that I stand with others to recite the pledge, I stand but am silent.  I do not put my hand over my heart.  I do not intend disrespect but I am not reciting a freaking marketing campaign.  (The Phillipines are the only other country that pledges allegiance to a flag).  I have nothing against the flag.  It is a powerful one at that.  The Pledge I have no care about.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
and to the republic for which it stands
One nation
Under Kum-chi The Hamster Devourer and Destroyer of Stars
Indivisible
With liberty and justice for all
 
2014-04-30 12:21:02 AM  
They didn't say the pledge in Arabic if they said, "One nation under Allah."

"One nation under" is not Arabic.

Also FTFA: Her simplistic defense included a reference to "one" supportive email and a reference to a similar mistake last year which drew controversy when the pledge was recited in Spanish.

Did they say the entire pledge in Spanish "last year?" Or did they say, "One nation under Dios?"
 
2014-04-30 12:27:38 AM  
I've read some pretty dumb stuff in my time. But this:

The Muslim Brotherhood front group CAIR chimed in saying, "Obviously in Arabic, you would use the word Allah, but Christian Arabs would use the word Allah." Their spokesperson, Ibrahim Hooper, claimed use of the word Allah is "not necessarily specific to Islam and Muslims." From an American point of view, it is, whether he is technically correct or not, to Americans, in America, it's a specific Muslim and Islamic reference.

Man, that's gold.
 
2014-04-30 12:51:53 AM  

BSABSVR: And to be perfectly honest, this is a Todd Starnes article, I am hesitant to believe that there is even a cultural club, this school, a city of Ft. Collins or even a state of Colorado.


Do you really want to hurt him?
Do you really want to make him cry?
 
2014-04-30 01:10:10 AM  
Link to source.

That said...

i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-04-30 01:28:25 AM  
It's the same god, isn't it?

Meh. One god is as good as another.
 
2014-04-30 01:29:25 AM  

BSABSVR: What did the school make kids do? Oh that's right, the school made kids do nothing.


And to be perfectly honest, this is a Todd Starnes article, I am hesitant to believe that there is even a cultural club, this school, a city of Ft. Collins or even a state of Colorado.


I hear there's also no Federal Government...
 
2014-04-30 01:30:52 AM  

sendtodave: It's the same god, isn't it?

Meh. One god is as good as another.


Equally nonexistent.
 
2014-04-30 01:31:42 AM  

HawgWild: I've read some pretty dumb stuff in my time. But this:

The Muslim Brotherhood front group CAIR chimed in saying, "Obviously in Arabic, you would use the word Allah, but Christian Arabs would use the word Allah." Their spokesperson, Ibrahim Hooper, claimed use of the word Allah is "not necessarily specific to Islam and Muslims." From an American point of view, it is, whether he is technically correct or not, to Americans, in America, it's a specific Muslim and Islamic reference.

Man, that's gold.


Ha ha, oh wow.

"When real Americans her 'Allah,' it means some foreign god. The reality is irrelevant."
 
2014-04-30 01:31:44 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Ambivalence: Allah is the Arabic word for God.  It's the same damn word, just a different language.  WTF?  Do they have objection over the French word for God?  German?  Japanese?  No?  STFU!

These idiots can't even grasp the fact that THEY WORSHIP THE SAME FREAKING GOD ALLAH


FIFY
 
2014-04-30 01:35:39 AM  
Between the pledge itself, the article author, the outrage brigade, and a principal who honestly didn't think this would freak people out... I think the terrorists might be the good guys.
 
2014-04-30 01:37:24 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The entire concept of a pledge of allegiance to a country is rather creepy.


It's a good thing it's to its flag then.
 
2014-04-30 01:38:34 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Ambivalence: Allah is the Arabic word for God.  It's the same damn word, just a different language.  WTF?  Do they have objection over the French word for God?  German?  Japanese?  No?  STFU!

These idiots can't even grasp the fact that THEY WORSHIP THE SAME FREAKING GOD



They get VERY angry if you point that out
 
2014-04-30 01:38:45 AM  
i for one am outraged at this affront to Christianity, which is our chosen religion, no matter where you come from, or who you are. if you want to live in America, then by god, you will be christian, and pray to that god, and only that god. Allah is the god of heathen dessert dwellers and has no place in our America, it's in the Constitution, you can look it up, and study it out.
 
2014-04-30 01:39:19 AM  

fusillade762: Link to source.

That said...

[i1.ytimg.com image 850x478]

Members in November recited the Pledge in Spanish, sparking intense debate about whether saying the words of the Pledge in any language other than English was unpatriotic.


You know what's unpatriotic? Saying a PLEDGE of ALLEGIANCE, in a country the values LIBERTY. To a flag of all things.
 
2014-04-30 01:39:27 AM  
The larger problem here is that of reciting a pledge at all. That is the definition of indoctrination, and liberty and indoctrination are incompatible.

Being a patriotic American (and I'm not talking about the new brand of Patriot as imagined by the teabaggers) means believing in and upholding the virtues of freedom which are this country's great promise. That's very different than brainwashed devotion to the flag or those wearing/flying it.

A pledge of allegiance to the flag or by extension to the government is about as anti-American as you can get. The practice should be disallowed entirely.
 
2014-04-30 01:40:23 AM  

Baz744: AverageAmericanGuy: The entire concept of a pledge of allegiance to a country is rather creepy.

It's a good thing it's to its flag then.


A flag is just a symbol!

That's even more creepy!
 
2014-04-30 01:42:53 AM  
The comments after that article....
 
2014-04-30 01:42:57 AM  

traxan: The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one...

You all focus on the semantics of God vs Allah while ignoring the whole idea of making kids say the Pledge in Arabic. And do you think any Arab country would reciprocate with their own attempt to "destroy the barriers, embrace the cultures" of the US?

Oh forget it, why am I bothering?


This is a county wide thing now?

I'd bet that one school in "Arab countries" makes kids say stuff in English.
 
2014-04-30 01:43:11 AM  

BSABSVR: If they did it in German and said "unter Gott", no way in hell Todd Starnes would be sending his hate monkeys towards Ft. Collins.


Hell no he wouldn't! That's the most Conservative thing they could do, since the Pledge originally looked like this:
upload.wikimedia.org
The Bellamy Salute
 
2014-04-30 01:43:45 AM  
I didn't know The Onion went through a re-branding.
 
2014-04-30 01:44:43 AM  
The whole thing is especially stupid, considering that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all reference the same "God".
 
2014-04-30 01:46:21 AM  

traxan: The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one...

You all focus on the semantics of God vs Allah while ignoring the whole idea of making kids say the Pledge in Arabic. And do you think any Arab country would reciprocate with their own attempt to "destroy the barriers, embrace the cultures" of the US?

Oh forget it, why am I bothering?


Hold on, did I just read that because other countries might be xenophobic, we should be xenophobic.  Can you explain this with anything resembling logic?
 
2014-04-30 01:47:38 AM  
This is gold.. Insha God... The Coloradoans are making the right choice. Godahu  Akhbar!! Godahu Akhbar!!
 
2014-04-30 01:47:42 AM  

Brainsick: BSABSVR: If they did it in German and said "unter Gott", no way in hell Todd Starnes would be sending his hate monkeys towards Ft. Collins.

Hell no he wouldn't! That's the most Conservative thing they could do, since the Pledge originally looked like this:

The Bellamy Salute


Stupid nazis.

Ruining perfectly good salutes, good luck symbols, and silly little mustaches for all time!

Also, the genocide thing.
 
2014-04-30 01:48:34 AM  
From the other article, "Members in November recited the Pledge in Spanish, sparking intense debate about whether saying the words of the Pledge in any language other than English was unpatriotic. "

Yes, because Jesus only understands 'merican. If you don't say the pledge in 'merican he turns you into a gay Mexican who works for ANOTHER mexican.

Its the ultimate punishment.
 
2014-04-30 01:50:13 AM  

ChadM89: The larger problem here is that of reciting a pledge at all. That is the definition of indoctrination, and liberty and indoctrination are incompatible.

Being a patriotic American (and I'm not talking about the new brand of Patriot as imagined by the teabaggers) means believing in and upholding the virtues of freedom which are this country's great promise. That's very different than brainwashed devotion to the flag or those wearing/flying it.

A pledge of allegiance to the flag or by extension to the government is about as anti-American as you can get. The practice should be disallowed entirely.


Look, I get what you're saying, but if you could just wear this flag lapel pin while you say it...
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And one more of 'ol Mama Grizzly...
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2014-04-30 01:50:51 AM  

traxan: The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one...

You all focus on the semantics of God vs Allah while ignoring the whole idea of making kids say the Pledge in Arabic. And do you think any Arab country would reciprocate with their own attempt to "destroy the barriers, embrace the cultures" of the US?

Oh forget it, why am I bothering?


Yeah, you should really get off the milk crate on stop pontificating on the street corners on Thursdays too.
 
2014-04-30 01:52:57 AM  

BSABSVR: It's a Muslim reference. That's why I eat chick-pea mash, clean my face with a freedom wiper, and then kick back and relax with some friends while we smoke flavored tobacco out of a tree-of-liberty pipe.


Tobacco! I suppose you could...

/don't tell them coffee is made with Arabica beans.
 
2014-04-30 01:53:28 AM  
It's crazy, because those on the right freaking out about this are implicitly accepting the left's criticism that "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance endorses religion.
 
2014-04-30 01:53:55 AM  
This cannot be real.

This really cannot be real.

This is just so mindblowingly idiotic

Arabic does not use the English word "God". They use the word "Allah". Its their friggin language. Who are we to tell them to use our damn words?

You lewdish lede are morons
 
2014-04-30 01:53:57 AM  

Baz744: AverageAmericanGuy: The entire concept of a pledge of allegiance to a country is rather creepy.

It's a good thing it's to its flag then.


Which is why many Christian Churches objected to it...Including 7th day Adventist, Church of God, and Church of Christ.

To invoke 'GOD' in while worshiping a graven image (the flag) is against the literal interpretation of the Bible...to not worship graven images....when you invoke "God" to a graven image you violate the literal words of the bible "No Graven Images" in the 10 commandments.

It really wasn't so much Athisits that got that pushed through in the 50's and 60's it was good Christians that didn't want their brand of worship trampled on--including the 'public prayer' which for some Christians is against their dogma---"Pray in private--not on the street corner"...look it up.
 
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